Britain, Italy, Spain, Turkey and many others supported the war. The governments, yes, but not in all cases the population (definitly not in Spain and Turkey).
France and Germany opposed mainly because of their isolated, non-political confrontational views. These countries are very muslim hostile (witness Turkey's denial from the EU, instigated by France/Germany, despite a better political system in Turkey than many Eastern European countires that were granted access) Sorry, but this is bullshit. It is not only in France and Germany that people think that Turkish membership is problematic, if only for the fact that Turkey would be the largest country in the EU and its integration would take a lot of ressources, which are anyway quite tight now with the integration of 10 new states next year (and these are mostly tiny compared to Turkey). I don't know were you took your ideas about Germany and France beeing 'muslim hostile' from.
I guess it is basically impossible to name the person who really made the first powered flight. One problem is the credibility of the reports, the other the definition of 'powered flight'. Is a short hop of a couple of meters enough? Or should it be 10s of meters? Or 100s of meters? All that really can be said IMHO is that a couple of brave and intelligent man broke this barier in he beginning of the 20th century with varying degrees of success.
The letter itself is 90% P.R. puff, and says very little, other than SUSE will now be shipping GNOME is a reasonable condition, unlike its previous efforts.
AFAIK, SUSE was shipping Gnome so far more less like the GNOME team released it, including application start menues that reflected the installed programs and maybe a background image with the SUSE logo. So I think GNOME was shipped in an as reasonable condition as it was released by the GNOME team. OK, maybe you think that the GNOME team doesn't make reasonable releases and that it takes a distributor like Red Hat or Ximian to make it reasonable... but I don't think so.
I thought they included non-free software in their distribution, precluding free distribution.
I was also for some time unsure about this, but the consensus in different forums I have read (including quotes from SUSE's own customer support) seems to be that it is legal to copy SUSE CDs, as long as it is free. You are just not allowed to *sell* the copies (because of the Yast license).
Actually, I recently sent an email to SUSE support asking about what specifically makes it illegal to offer SUSE ISO images for download. The somewhat interesting answer was that, while SUSE itself is providing no ISOs, they could not legally prevent anybody from doing that. Of course, again, the download would have to offered for free, and there would have to be a clear statement saying that these ISOs are not officially provided by SUSE, come with out any support, warranty yadayada...
Come to think of it, with SUSE you would only be allowed to provide copying free of charge, so that would probably rule out libraries where you would have to pay a monthly/annual usage fee...
I know this was a joke, nevertheless I was curious what the time really is at the moment. From Edinburg to Algeciras it takes you about 37:30 hours, Algeciras being the city where the ferry boats to Tanger leave. So you have to add the time for the boat trip.;) (Check here).
This of course doesn't take into account the (un)reliability of the various rail networks you have to cross...;)
So, if Saddam didn't have WMD, why would he throw out weapons inspectors and risk being thrown out of power?
Pride? I think one should never underestimate the importance 'pride' is playing in Arab culture (though I have to admit I'm absolutely no expert in this matter...). A picture of standing there 'with your underpants down' and being searched by the US or the UN surely is not something a self-declared pan-arabian leader is keen to present, even if you have nothing to hide.
Finding WMDs in Iraq surely is a demanding task, but I think the comparison with Egyptian mummies is a bit far fetched. If these weapons existed, they must have been produced,handled, researched on, stored and finally being hid in the last 10-15 years. It would be strange if they managed to destroy really every trace of them. There should be people alive who now. There must have been offices, documents of the Iraqi government (dictatorships are usually quite good in bureaucracy...) Of course, the fact that nothing was found doesn't really prove much. But the discrepancy between before the war (all this 'evidence' shown to the UN security council, which should prove how much the US knows about the Iraqi weapons program, all this sites were one was sure that they were used for research etc.) and after the war (nothing) is really very... strang.
Hmm, not quite. I was aware of the unconditional surrender of the German army on May 8 1945, but I thought that this only marks the ending of the fights and does not constitute a peace treaty in the sense of international law.
In WWI, for example, there was the armistice from Nov 10 1918, there was the Versaille peace treaty on June 28, 1919 and additionally there was a special peace treaty between Germany and the US on August 25, 1921, since the Versaille treaty was not ratified by the US.
I think a peace treaty, as any treaty, has to be signed by (at least) two government authorities, and then usually ratified by the parliaments, like the treaties of WWI were.
Maybe we agree on the notion that the Chinese government is not really a nice, democratic government by our standards. After all, people are not really allowed to express freely their opinion (at least if their opinion is in contradiction to the opinion of the Party). Many people sit in jails as political prisoners, there are no free elections, and what the Chines are doing in Tibet is also not really nice.
So, under the assumption that you agree with me that the Chinese government is bad, I see from your reasoning that you favor an US invasion into China, right? After all (just to abuse a slightly changed quote from you): You cannot be anti-invasion and anti-Chinese government, by opposing the invasion, the Chinese government stays in power.
You can't say you are against something unless you are willing to do something about it.
But with your logic you rule out the possibility that doing something about it might have unforeseable and even worse consequences.
If you are against something and the only thing you could do against it would have even worse consequences, it might be demonstration of your 'against'-ness if you would do it anyway, but you wouldn't suddenly become in favor of it if you would say 'Wait, under these circumstances I will wait until I can come up with something better'.
To the people saying that they are anti-war, pro-Saddam arrest... What? Did you think he was going to surrender?
I think there is more about starting a war against Iraq than the question whether you are in favor of Saddam or against him. First of all it's the reasons the politicians are giving you why this war is necessary, and there the US government made a tremendously bad job with questinable reasons and proofs. Second, you have to consider the consequences, and I mean all the possible consequences of such a war. The US government always claimed that it was necessary for national security, especially in the light of international terrorism, to attack Iraq and remove Saddam. Now the fear of many people was that the war would just make the delicate situation in the middle east even more unstable, that it would further fuel the hate against the US and the west in general, thus making it even easier for Al-Qaida, Hamas etc. to deceive people for their cause and thus not really helping at all in fighting against such threats. Many people might have thought that at this point it might have been more worthwhile to invest more energy in solving longstanding problems which are for decades now causing trouble, grieve and hate, namely the problem between Israel and the Palestine people. I'm quite sure that a solution that would finally settle this dispute and allow the Palestinians to live in their own state would do more good in fighting fundamentalistic terrorism than removing Saddam Hussein (and nothing in which happened in the last few months gave me the feeling that I am wrong).
You see, it's not only about Saddam. I was against the US war against Iraq, and above I gave some of my reasons for this opinion. Still, the war took place, and I now hope that as many good things come out of this as possible. Catching and punishing Saddam Husseins is one of this good things which result from this war. Reducing the threat of international terrorism, I fear, is not.
Well, I thought I'd get this comment in before all the anti-war people got on. It's very well possible to see the war as a mistake and seeing the arrest of Saddam as a Very Good Thing(TM).
I am not among that overwhelming majority of Marxist scholars who interprets Marx's writings to support dictatorships as per Soviet Russia and Cuba. I'm not sure how they do it.
I don't know whether the majoriy of Marxists scholars (what is a Marxist scholar? Someone who as carfully read Marx' works?) supports dictatorships. But I'm quite sure that most of those who do had their Marxist 'education' in former (or current) communist states. If you are not only reading Marx' (or any other author's, for that matter) writings but are also taught how to interpret them, it is no wonder if you get the same ideas...
Yet, whenever it is applied (either by Leninist-Stalinists, or kindhearted Social Democrats in western Europe), it means making the ruling class stronger (from taking over health care or taking over much land down to outlawing non-government-approved religions).
Hmm, in Germany health care was implemented by the state under Chancelor Bismarck around 1880. He was by no means a social democrat, quite the opposite. (He is quoted as calling the social democrats as a 'menacing band of thiefs'). The current (Social Democrat) government is at the moment considering to further reduce the standard of the general health care, putting more emphasis on private provisions. Oh, and I don't know any religion that was outlawed by the 'kindhearted Social Democrats in western Europe'.
I think you live in your own black-and-white world...
(cannot go too far south, since the Germans still hasn't decided what channels they are going to use).
I'm not quite sure what you mean. You say that Denmark has problems implementing digital radio because in the border region between Denmark and Germany (which is one of the last major coverage gaps in Germany) the Germans have not decided which channels they want? Isn't that what international agreements are for?
Considering that the next line begins with Fahrenheit Weight of air conditioners, and I don't know of any Fahrenheit Weights, I would assume that the temperature unit is Fahrenheit and it just slipped to the beginning of the next line...
I don't know of any language where the ones are generally said first, but at least in German (and also Dutch, I believe) we say the ones before the tens. So 531 becomes "fuenfhundert-einunddreissig" (fivehundred-oneandthirty). So for numbers between 13 and 99, we do indeed completely reverse the numbers. But that is not nearly as strange as the French. For e.g. 97, they say "quatre-vingt dix sept" (four twenty ten seven). You have to do the math yourself.;) (OK, I know it's an extreme example...)
From reading the university Fedora website, it appears that while work on the project itself was around since 1998, it wasn't actually released to the public under the Fedora name until May 2003.
Hmm, I think they are only saying that they released version 1.0 to the public in May 2003. To quote their website:
" There is substantial evidence for prior use of the name Fedora? by the Cornell and Virginia teams starting in 1998. This includes published papers, web sites, software releases, and public presentations."
That sounds to me that even before May 2003 they had software releases, a web site etc. using this name (just no 1.0 release).
...unleashing his wrath on people speaking unkindly of Nazis? Get over it man, Nazis suck ass.
Saying that somebody (or some company) acts like a nazi is not "speaking unkindly of nazis", it's "speaking unkindly of this person/company/whatever". Please note there is a difference. Yes, I'm German. No, I didn't moderate any of your posts.
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Britain, Italy, Spain, Turkey and many others supported the war.
The governments, yes, but not in all cases the population (definitly not in Spain and Turkey).
France and Germany opposed mainly because of their isolated, non-political confrontational views. These countries are very muslim hostile (witness Turkey's denial from the EU, instigated by France/Germany, despite a better political system in Turkey than many Eastern European countires that were granted access)
Sorry, but this is bullshit. It is not only in France and Germany that people think that Turkish membership is problematic, if only for the fact that Turkey would be the largest country in the EU and its integration would take a lot of ressources, which are anyway quite tight now with the integration of 10 new states next year (and these are mostly tiny compared to Turkey).
I don't know were you took your ideas about Germany and France beeing 'muslim hostile' from.
I guess it is basically impossible to name the person who really made the first powered flight. One problem is the credibility of the reports, the other the definition of 'powered flight'. Is a short hop of a couple of meters enough? Or should it be 10s of meters? Or 100s of meters? All that really can be said IMHO is that a couple of brave and intelligent man broke this barier in he beginning of the 20th century with varying degrees of success.
Further claims of '1. powered flight' include for example Gustave Whitehead (or Weisskopf) and Karl Jatho.
The letter itself is 90% P.R. puff, and says very little, other than SUSE will now be shipping GNOME is a reasonable condition, unlike its previous efforts.
AFAIK, SUSE was shipping Gnome so far more less like the GNOME team released it, including application start menues that reflected the installed programs and maybe a background image with the SUSE logo. So I think GNOME was shipped in an as reasonable condition as it was released by the GNOME team. OK, maybe you think that the GNOME team doesn't make reasonable releases and that it takes a distributor like Red Hat or Ximian to make it reasonable... but I don't think so.
I thought they included non-free software in their distribution, precluding free distribution.
I was also for some time unsure about this, but the consensus in different forums I have read (including quotes from SUSE's own customer support) seems to be that it is legal to copy SUSE CDs, as long as it is free. You are just not allowed to *sell* the copies (because of the Yast license).
Actually, I recently sent an email to SUSE support asking about what specifically makes it illegal to offer SUSE ISO images for download. The somewhat interesting answer was that, while SUSE itself is providing no ISOs, they could not legally prevent anybody from doing that. Of course, again, the download would have to offered for free, and there would have to be a clear statement saying that these ISOs are not officially provided by SUSE, come with out any support, warranty yadayada...
Well, why not SUSE?
Come to think of it, with SUSE you would only be allowed to provide copying free of charge, so that would probably rule out libraries where you would have to pay a monthly/annual usage fee...
Can anyone think of any more?
Well, why not SUSE?
Ah, ok. ;)
I don't like SuSE's way of releasing their distro (ftp anyone?)
What do you mean, are you looking for this?
I know this was a joke, nevertheless I was curious what the time really is at the moment. From Edinburg to Algeciras it takes you about 37:30 hours, Algeciras being the city where the ferry boats to Tanger leave. So you have to add the time for the boat trip. ;) (Check here).
;)
This of course doesn't take into account the (un)reliability of the various rail networks you have to cross...
So, if Saddam didn't have WMD, why would he throw out weapons inspectors and risk being thrown out of power?
... strang.
Pride? I think one should never underestimate the importance 'pride' is playing in Arab culture (though I have to admit I'm absolutely no expert in this matter...). A picture of standing there 'with your underpants down' and being searched by the US or the UN surely is not something a self-declared pan-arabian leader is keen to present, even if you have nothing to hide.
Finding WMDs in Iraq surely is a demanding task, but I think the comparison with Egyptian mummies is a bit far fetched. If these weapons existed, they must have been produced,handled, researched on, stored and finally being hid in the last 10-15 years. It would be strange if they managed to destroy really every trace of them. There should be people alive who now. There must have been offices, documents of the Iraqi government (dictatorships are usually quite good in bureaucracy...) Of course, the fact that nothing was found doesn't really prove much. But the discrepancy between before the war (all this 'evidence' shown to the UN security council, which should prove how much the US knows about the Iraqi weapons program, all this sites were one was sure that they were used for research etc.) and after the war (nothing) is really very
Does that answer your question?
Hmm, not quite. I was aware of the unconditional surrender of the German army on May 8 1945, but I thought that this only marks the ending of the fights and does not constitute a peace treaty in the sense of international law.
In WWI, for example, there was the armistice from Nov 10 1918, there was the Versaille peace treaty on June 28, 1919 and additionally there was a special peace treaty between Germany and the US on August 25, 1921, since the Versaille treaty was not ratified by the US.
I think a peace treaty, as any treaty, has to be signed by (at least) two government authorities, and then usually ratified by the parliaments, like the treaties of WWI were.
Except for the problem that there WAS a peace treaty signed with Germany.
Really? I thought not. Have you more information about this, e.g. when and where it was signed? I'm really curious...
One more example to illustrate my point:
Maybe we agree on the notion that the Chinese government is not really a nice, democratic government by our standards. After all, people are not really allowed to express freely their opinion (at least if their opinion is in contradiction to the opinion of the Party). Many people sit in jails as political prisoners, there are no free elections, and what the Chines are doing in Tibet is also not really nice.
So, under the assumption that you agree with me that the Chinese government is bad, I see from your reasoning that you favor an US invasion into China, right? After all (just to abuse a slightly changed quote from you): You cannot be anti-invasion and anti-Chinese government, by opposing the invasion, the Chinese government stays in power.
You can't say you are against something unless you are willing to do something about it.
But with your logic you rule out the possibility that doing something about it might have unforeseable and even worse consequences.
If you are against something and the only thing you could do against it would have even worse consequences, it might be demonstration of your 'against'-ness if you would do it anyway, but you wouldn't suddenly become in favor of it if you would say 'Wait, under these circumstances I will wait until I can come up with something better'.
To the people saying that they are anti-war, pro-Saddam arrest ... What? Did you think he was going to surrender?
I think there is more about starting a war against Iraq than the question whether you are in favor of Saddam or against him.
First of all it's the reasons the politicians are giving you why this war is necessary, and there the US government made a tremendously bad job with questinable reasons and proofs.
Second, you have to consider the consequences, and I mean all the possible consequences of such a war. The US government always claimed that it was necessary for national security, especially in the light of international terrorism, to attack Iraq and remove Saddam. Now the fear of many people was that the war would just make the delicate situation in the middle east even more unstable, that it would further fuel the hate against the US and the west in general, thus making it even easier for Al-Qaida, Hamas etc. to deceive people for their cause and thus not really helping at all in fighting against such threats. Many people might have thought that at this point it might have been more worthwhile to invest more energy in solving longstanding problems which are for decades now causing trouble, grieve and hate, namely the problem between Israel and the Palestine people. I'm quite sure that a solution that would finally settle this dispute and allow the Palestinians to live in their own state would do more good in fighting fundamentalistic terrorism than removing Saddam Hussein (and nothing in which happened in the last few months gave me the feeling that I am wrong).
You see, it's not only about Saddam. I was against the US war against Iraq, and above I gave some of my reasons for this opinion. Still, the war took place, and I now hope that as many good things come out of this as possible. Catching and punishing Saddam Husseins is one of this good things which result from this war. Reducing the threat of international terrorism, I fear, is not.
Well, I thought I'd get this comment in before all the anti-war people got on.
It's very well possible to see the war as a mistake and seeing the arrest of Saddam as a Very Good Thing(TM).
GOOD JOB GUYS!!!!
Indeed.
I am not among that overwhelming majority of Marxist scholars who interprets Marx's writings to support dictatorships as per Soviet Russia and Cuba. I'm not sure how they do it.
I don't know whether the majoriy of Marxists scholars (what is a Marxist scholar? Someone who as carfully read Marx' works?) supports dictatorships. But I'm quite sure that most of those who do had their Marxist 'education' in former (or current) communist states. If you are not only reading Marx' (or any other author's, for that matter) writings but are also taught how to interpret them, it is no wonder if you get the same ideas...
Yet, whenever it is applied (either by Leninist-Stalinists, or kindhearted Social Democrats in western Europe), it means making the ruling class stronger (from taking over health care or taking over much land down to outlawing non-government-approved religions).
Hmm, in Germany health care was implemented by the state under Chancelor Bismarck around 1880. He was by no means a social democrat, quite the opposite. (He is quoted as calling the social democrats as a 'menacing band of thiefs'). The current (Social Democrat) government is at the moment considering to further reduce the standard of the general health care, putting more emphasis on private provisions.
Oh, and I don't know any religion that was outlawed by the 'kindhearted Social Democrats in western Europe'.
I think you live in your own black-and-white world...
Too bad that the "south" is going so slow these days,
;)
Hmm, considering digital radio in Germany (from a German perspective), it seems to be rather the north (of Germany) that seems a bit slow.
(cannot go too far south, since the Germans still hasn't decided what channels they are going to use).
I'm not quite sure what you mean. You say that Denmark has problems implementing digital radio because in the border region between Denmark and Germany (which is one of the last major coverage gaps in Germany) the Germans have not decided which channels they want? Isn't that what international agreements are for?
Qt works on Mac and Windows if you pay the fees, which are hefty.
Not quite. For Mac there is also the QT Free Edition
Considering that the next line begins with Fahrenheit Weight of air conditioners, and I don't know of any Fahrenheit Weights, I would assume that the temperature unit is Fahrenheit and it just slipped to the beginning of the next line...
I don't know of any language where the ones are generally said first, but at least in German (and also Dutch, I believe) we say the ones before the tens. So 531 becomes "fuenfhundert-einunddreissig" (fivehundred-oneandthirty). So for numbers between 13 and 99, we do indeed completely reverse the numbers. ;) (OK, I know it's an extreme example...)
But that is not nearly as strange as the French. For e.g. 97, they say "quatre-vingt dix sept" (four twenty ten seven). You have to do the math yourself.
From reading the university Fedora website, it appears that while work on the project itself was around since 1998, it wasn't actually released to the public under the Fedora name until May 2003.
Hmm, I think they are only saying that they released version 1.0 to the public in May 2003. To quote their website:
" There is substantial evidence for prior use of the name Fedora? by the Cornell and Virginia teams starting in 1998. This includes published papers, web sites, software releases, and public presentations."
That sounds to me that even before May 2003 they had software releases, a web site etc. using this name (just no 1.0 release).
...unleashing his wrath on people speaking unkindly of Nazis? Get over it man, Nazis suck ass.
Saying that somebody (or some company) acts like a nazi is not "speaking unkindly of nazis", it's "speaking unkindly of this person/company/whatever". Please note there is a difference. Yes, I'm German. No, I didn't moderate any of your posts.
OK, to correct myself, T-Online is (as somebody else pointed out) only about 75% owned by Deutsche Telekom, the rest is publically traded...
;)
Oh, and here is the link in the proper way.
Does anyone know if these companies (T-Online and T-Mobile) are related?
Yepp. Both companies are part of Deutsche Telekom. (T-Mobile 100%, T-Online 75%).
See the Deutsche Telekom site for more info.