Doubtfull? I have done consultations for comapnies that were having problems accessing their mail server because their computers were connecting to the company next door's APs. It seemed that both companies were using linksys access points... SSID "linksys". The whole time they had been using each others connections and neither had a clue.
$10,000 for the prime contractor who subs it out to MRAS. $4,500 for MRAS who subs it out to a sub
$300 for the sub to build the seats $50 ea for shipping $50 for paperwork $100 for the inspector (contractor) to make sure it meets the spec and upload the dimensions to DCA (or whatever the Defense Dontracting Agency calls themselves these days) using their UNAUTHORIZED wireless network... I was begining to wonder if I could still work the topic in here somewhere:)
You were so close to being partialy right but your wrong. Yes, wimax devices can be made in the licensed spectrum, but they can also be used in the un-licensed spectrum. It is likley that we will see 5.8 Ghz wimax gear in the US as the "listen first" protocol required in the opening of 5.3 is not compatible with the polling protocol specified in the wimax standard.
Who cares if he isn't allowed to ban MAC addresses. Set up the network to drop everything but the basics (80, 443, 25, 22) from any host which matches the pattern of viral activity. When the user calls to complain that their whatever doesn't work, tell them that they have a virus which is causing a problem with their whatever. This isn't even a lie. Next, offer to fix the problem for a couple of sixpacks or some cash.
I was once assigned the task of monitoring/assisting with the unloading of a Russian cargo jet loaded with EIGHT UAE AH-64s. The thing was HUGE (The US does six packs of 64s on a C5) but in a terible state of repair. One of the aircraft inside had damage from part of the plane falling off in-flight. The russians were not concerned and the UAE guys were incensed as their aircraft were in otherwise perfect condition. Later on the same trip, I did some work on a couple of russian helicopters. The things were built like tanks but were maintained terribly. The guys working on them wold do crazy stuff like weilding aluminum on the airframe. None crashed while we were there though... I would fly on a Russian jet, but only as a last resort.
All they need to do is sell them unlocked with 802.11b data and VoIP support. At first they will cost a boatload, but it will help push other manufacturers away from carrier lock in. If anyone can supply data services, I see an entire new market for WiFi to the phone. If I could cover most of your city with WiFi, would you pay $10 a month for unlimited data at 1MB/s to your phone?
Because of your willingness to donate to my decesed father, I have decided that I can trust you in the fullest despite the fact that you may be supprised to be recieving this note. I am the sole surviving heir of the Honorable Mr Anonymous Coward. As you may well know, he was the leader of the Teritorial Region's Outer Limit and ammassed massive reserves of -$karmaks which have been deposited in an account here. Due to the new slashlaw imposed after his death, I am in need of a regular account into which I will transfer $100,000,000,000,000 (-K) . As a payment for your troubles, you can keep 100,000,000,000,000 (-K). In order for us to make this transaction swift, Send me your Username and Password as well as your Name, Address, SSN, DOB, Mothers maiden Name, phone number, and bank account number. I am trusting in your descritedness in this sensitive matter.
Hey, I am a skilled mechanic with an A&P and am sure I am not the only one here. There's really not that much difference between being a hacker and being an aircraft mechanic. The aircraft side is a little more phisical but the trouble shooting side is ~ the same.
The problem is not competing with municipalities persay, but rather competing with municipalities that do not have to compete. If a municipality wants to install a network using revenue derived from their customers and only their customers, that's fine with me. If they want to pass the cost on to taxpayers, I have a problem with it. In the later case, my customers end up paying for the service I provide and the city's service. There is no way to compete unless the city provides crap service in which case it is just another hole for them to pour our money into.
If a city feels that it needs this, a better model would be Philidelphia's plan. They are looking at providing the backhaul to small local providers who then do the wireless portion. This will stimulate small busnesses to compete on price and quality of service. No one ends up paying for a service that they don't use.
Broadband is not the answer for high speed Internet access.
Broadband is high speed internet access. I will assume that you mean wireless.
It is good in low density areas and for mobile applications but it fails once the density goes up.
While this is true to a point, smart spread spectrum devices can utilize the available bandwith in a much more inteligent way. Your argument is parimount to saying that a pair of wires is good for one conversation. While this was once true, more inteligent devices were developed which allowed one pair of wires to push multiple conversations. Next someone figured out that the conversations had blank spaces in them and by using a digital signal we can now push multiple calls over one pair.
Right now I am using 802.11b in an area with ~5 other WiSPs there are also thousands of residential APs and other sources of noise. By using directional antennas and filters, I am able to make things work well. As devices and spectrum become available, I will migrate to pread spectrum devices for my backhaul.
Sell the spectrum to one company and they will figure out a way to make a profit and then do nothing more.
Sell the spectrum to a couple of big companies and they will compete minimally. There will be some inovation but not much. Soon they will buy each other and we will be back at case one.
Give most of the spectrum back to the people and we will figure out better ways to utilize it. There will be turbulence in the market but the best providers will win. Inovation will rule and the public will benifit.
I believe that the spectrum is public property to be used by all. Good neighbor regulation is all we need. Listen first, try not to cause interfearance.
This would kill most of the easy money for a city wisp but the fixed wireless base will still be there. When I say easy money, I mean customers with a laptop who know what their doing and pay me $20 a month for service. My cost is just the extra load on the AP as opposed to my fixed wieless customers who need expensive roof mounted bridges, support, etc.
This would however create an installers market where I could charge premium rates to install a wireless bridge to the city's system. Pass the full price of the equipment and install labor on to the customer and let the city deal with providing the APs and bandwidth. If they don't like the city's service, support, latency, bandwith etc, I could then offer them my service. This would of course be an easy install for me as I don't have to outlay any money for CPE.
Since when is a MAC address any useful identifier?
Alone it means little, but along with other information, it can sometimes tell you something. Yesterday I put up a new AP and left it open as a loss leader of sorts as there are other free conections in the area. (The first hit is free) Going through my access logs I came accros a user that used quite a bit of upstream but little downstream bandwidth. I cross checked the MAC with my dhcp server log and came up with 'client-hostname "your-2r8c4odfb2"'. That's an odd thing to name your computer. Thinking that 2r8c4odfb2 might me some wierd 1337 speak, I googled it and found: your-2r8c4odfb2.cpe.ozrk.al.charter.com listed as the hostname for a computer which had sent quite a bit of email (read SPAM). Now I could be way off base here, but the wierd traffic coupled, with the hostname listed as having a high probibility of being a spam server, was enough for me to ban the mac till the AP is added to the authentication and billing system.
We will focus on whatever makes sense from a business perspective. Right now it makes sense for me to focus on wireless. If I am forcd to open up my network to competitors, it will no longer make sense as I am taking all the risk. If it works, the competition can step in and demand access to my network at cost.
There is something to be said for opening up networks where exclusive rights of way have been granted to a single entity, however, if it is possible for both joe and I to run our own fiber, cable, copper, or twine, there is no reason why joe should be forced to let me use his tin can network.
Because it costs more and is a pain to work with. Now for outside runs to an AP I use STP which is shielded and should be grounded at the point it enters the building (this is code in Baltimore). For inside runs there is little reason to use STP.
I guess it all comes down to what you think the government is for. Should we rely on a government entity to provide an essential service that can and will be provided by the public sector or should we let private interests set up their own system? As a small WISP, it would be hard for me to compete with a service provider who charges everyone for service, including my customers, yet only provides service to a limited group of customers. On the other hand, if the service is suported by payments made by the users of the system without charging non-users through taxation, then I have no problem with it. As long as they have the same expenses as me, I have no doubt that I can provide a better service at a lower cost.
I tried to compile it for the IA1 running midori linux but couldn't get it to0 work. That's not to say it couldn't be done, just that I lacked the skils to do it. Has anyone pulled this off yet?
The most stable version I've used was 0.9. The last few releases have a habit of freezing up in various ways.
I had the same experiance. I moved from mozilla to Firefox at.9 and then upgraded to 1.0. I loved.9 but 1.0 would freeze consistantly. I migrated to 1.0.1 last night and so far It works as well or better then 0.9.
Optional filtering of specific URLs? Are the specifif URLs to be included in the bill? I doubt it. If enough people care about what they can and acn't see on the internet, then they should set up their own "clean" DNS server and only resolve domains that they like. Easy, optional, and regulation free. the government stays out of censorship and people get to decide wht they want to do. All at no cost to taxpayers. I chalenge the mormon church et al to get off their colective asses and set up a DNS server that does this filtering for their members. If they can do it, then anyone who wants can easily set their computer to use their DNS server.
Behind that telco you will find the central government which has granted the telco a monopoly. Behing that government you will find links to the Clinton administration, the Bush administrations, and many previous administrations...
Call their tech support line??? I couldn't find a number for their support line anywhere... OK, that's not quite true. After a nice slashdoter posted the link for Corporate Edition login, I was able to log in with the S/N and download the patch (new cd).
Slashdot Mirror
I think thats 800mW EIRP for an omni and 1W for a point to point link.
CP
Doubtfull? I have done consultations for comapnies that were having problems accessing their mail server because their computers were connecting to the company next door's APs. It seemed that both companies were using linksys access points... SSID "linksys". The whole time they had been using each others connections and neither had a clue.
CP
Here's the actual breakdown:
:)
$10,000 for the prime contractor who subs it out to MRAS.
$4,500 for MRAS who subs it out to a sub
$300 for the sub to build the seats
$50 ea for shipping
$50 for paperwork
$100 for the inspector (contractor) to make sure it meets the spec and upload the dimensions to DCA (or whatever the Defense Dontracting Agency calls themselves these days) using their UNAUTHORIZED wireless network... I was begining to wonder if I could still work the topic in here somewhere
You were so close to being partialy right but your wrong. Yes, wimax devices can be made in the licensed spectrum, but they can also be used in the un-licensed spectrum. It is likley that we will see 5.8 Ghz wimax gear in the US as the "listen first" protocol required in the opening of 5.3 is not compatible with the polling protocol specified in the wimax standard.
CP
Who cares if he isn't allowed to ban MAC addresses. Set up the network to drop everything but the basics (80, 443, 25, 22) from any host which matches the pattern of viral activity. When the user calls to complain that their whatever doesn't work, tell them that they have a virus which is causing a problem with their whatever. This isn't even a lie. Next, offer to fix the problem for a couple of sixpacks or some cash.
CP
I was once assigned the task of monitoring/assisting with the unloading of a Russian cargo jet loaded with EIGHT UAE AH-64s. The thing was HUGE (The US does six packs of 64s on a C5) but in a terible state of repair. One of the aircraft inside had damage from part of the plane falling off in-flight. The russians were not concerned and the UAE guys were incensed as their aircraft were in otherwise perfect condition. Later on the same trip, I did some work on a couple of russian helicopters. The things were built like tanks but were maintained terribly. The guys working on them wold do crazy stuff like weilding aluminum on the airframe. None crashed while we were there though... I would fly on a Russian jet, but only as a last resort.
It would cost more because:
0) It is a high end device with more chips in a small form factor.
1) The cost would not be subsidized by cell phone companies as is the case with most cell phones.
2) More reasons I can't think of because I was up all night working... And reading Slashdot.
All they need to do is sell them unlocked with 802.11b data and VoIP support. At first they will cost a boatload, but it will help push other manufacturers away from carrier lock in. If anyone can supply data services, I see an entire new market for WiFi to the phone.
If I could cover most of your city with WiFi, would you pay $10 a month for unlimited data at 1MB/s to your phone?
Because of your willingness to donate to my decesed father, I have decided that I can trust you in the fullest despite the fact that you may be supprised to be recieving this note. I am the sole surviving heir of the Honorable Mr Anonymous Coward. As you may well know, he was the leader of the Teritorial Region's Outer Limit and ammassed massive reserves of -$karmaks which have been deposited in an account here. Due to the new slashlaw imposed after his death, I am in need of a regular account into which I will transfer $100,000,000,000,000 (-K) . As a payment for your troubles, you can keep 100,000,000,000,000 (-K). In order for us to make this transaction swift, Send me your Username and Password as well as your Name, Address, SSN, DOB, Mothers maiden Name, phone number, and bank account number. I am trusting in your descritedness in this sensitive matter.
You don't need bugmenot to read the AP wire. the usernames/passwords are well known and easy to figure out... Not that I would do anything like that.
And if you're a skilled mechanic(on slashdot?)
Hey, I am a skilled mechanic with an A&P and am sure I am not the only one here. There's really not that much difference between being a hacker and being an aircraft mechanic. The aircraft side is a little more phisical but the trouble shooting side is ~ the same.
The problem is not competing with municipalities persay, but rather competing with municipalities that do not have to compete. If a municipality wants to install a network using revenue derived from their customers and only their customers, that's fine with me. If they want to pass the cost on to taxpayers, I have a problem with it. In the later case, my customers end up paying for the service I provide and the city's service. There is no way to compete unless the city provides crap service in which case it is just another hole for them to pour our money into.
If a city feels that it needs this, a better model would be Philidelphia's plan. They are looking at providing the backhaul to small local providers who then do the wireless portion. This will stimulate small busnesses to compete on price and quality of service. No one ends up paying for a service that they don't use.
CP
Broadband is not the answer for high speed Internet access.
Broadband is high speed internet access. I will assume that you mean wireless.
It is good in low density areas and for mobile applications but it fails once the density goes up.
While this is true to a point, smart spread spectrum devices can utilize the available bandwith in a much more inteligent way. Your argument is parimount to saying that a pair of wires is good for one conversation. While this was once true, more inteligent devices were developed which allowed one pair of wires to push multiple conversations. Next someone figured out that the conversations had blank spaces in them and by using a digital signal we can now push multiple calls over one pair.
Right now I am using 802.11b in an area with ~5 other WiSPs there are also thousands of residential APs and other sources of noise. By using directional antennas and filters, I am able to make things work well. As devices and spectrum become available, I will migrate to pread spectrum devices for my backhaul.
Sell the spectrum to one company and they will figure out a way to make a profit and then do nothing more.
Sell the spectrum to a couple of big companies and they will compete minimally. There will be some inovation but not much. Soon they will buy each other and we will be back at case one.
Give most of the spectrum back to the people and we will figure out better ways to utilize it. There will be turbulence in the market but the best providers will win. Inovation will rule and the public will benifit.
I believe that the spectrum is public property to be used by all. Good neighbor regulation is all we need. Listen first, try not to cause interfearance.
CP
This would kill most of the easy money for a city wisp but the fixed wireless base will still be there.
When I say easy money, I mean customers with a laptop who know what their doing and pay me $20 a month for service. My cost is just the extra load on the AP as opposed to my fixed wieless customers who need expensive roof mounted bridges, support, etc.
This would however create an installers market where I could charge premium rates to install a wireless bridge to the city's system. Pass the full price of the equipment and install labor on to the customer and let the city deal with providing the APs and bandwidth. If they don't like the city's service, support, latency, bandwith etc, I could then offer them my service. This would of course be an easy install for me as I don't have to outlay any money for CPE.
Since when is a MAC address any useful identifier?
Alone it means little, but along with other information, it can sometimes tell you something. Yesterday I put up a new AP and left it open as a loss leader of sorts as there are other free conections in the area. (The first hit is free) Going through my access logs I came accros a user that used quite a bit of upstream but little downstream bandwidth. I cross checked the MAC with my dhcp server log and came up with 'client-hostname "your-2r8c4odfb2"'. That's an odd thing to name your computer. Thinking that 2r8c4odfb2 might me some wierd 1337 speak, I googled it and found: your-2r8c4odfb2.cpe.ozrk.al.charter.com listed as the hostname for a computer which had sent quite a bit of email (read SPAM). Now I could be way off base here, but the wierd traffic coupled, with the hostname listed as having a high probibility of being a spam server, was enough for me to ban the mac till the AP is added to the authentication and billing system.
We will focus on whatever makes sense from a business perspective. Right now it makes sense for me to focus on wireless. If I am forcd to open up my network to competitors, it will no longer make sense as I am taking all the risk. If it works, the competition can step in and demand access to my network at cost.
There is something to be said for opening up networks where exclusive rights of way have been granted to a single entity, however, if it is possible for both joe and I to run our own fiber, cable, copper, or twine, there is no reason why joe should be forced to let me use his tin can network.
CP
Because it costs more and is a pain to work with. Now for outside runs to an AP I use STP which is shielded and should be grounded at the point it enters the building (this is code in Baltimore). For inside runs there is little reason to use STP.
I guess it all comes down to what you think the government is for. Should we rely on a government entity to provide an essential service that can and will be provided by the public sector or should we let private interests set up their own system? As a small WISP, it would be hard for me to compete with a service provider who charges everyone for service, including my customers, yet only provides service to a limited group of customers. On the other hand, if the service is suported by payments made by the users of the system without charging non-users through taxation, then I have no problem with it. As long as they have the same expenses as me, I have no doubt that I can provide a better service at a lower cost.
I tried to compile it for the IA1 running midori linux but couldn't get it to0 work. That's not to say it couldn't be done, just that I lacked the skils to do it. Has anyone pulled this off yet?
The most stable version I've used was 0.9. The last few releases have a habit of freezing up in various ways.
I had the same experiance. I moved from mozilla to Firefox at
Optional filtering of specific URLs? Are the specifif URLs to be included in the bill? I doubt it. If enough people care about what they can and acn't see on the internet, then they should set up their own "clean" DNS server and only resolve domains that they like. Easy, optional, and regulation free. the government stays out of censorship and people get to decide wht they want to do. All at no cost to taxpayers. I chalenge the mormon church et al to get off their colective asses and set up a DNS server that does this filtering for their members. If they can do it, then anyone who wants can easily set their computer to use their DNS server.
Behind that telco you will find the central government which has granted the telco a monopoly. Behing that government you will find links to the Clinton administration, the Bush administrations, and many previous administrations...
Thank You, Thank You, Thank You.
Now why cant Symantec post this link anywhere that I can find it or at least include it with the packaging that the stinking CDs came in?
Call their tech support line??? I couldn't find a number for their support line anywhere... OK, that's not quite true. After a nice slashdoter posted the link for Corporate Edition login, I was able to log in with the S/N and download the patch (new cd).
Thank you Mr AC. You saved me quite a bit of pain today.