geeze what a pose.. lets just look at it in terms of chain of events, and why this is an interesting story, eh:
[accoustic oil^H^H^Hearthquake monitoring station].. dit.. dit.. bzarrk.. LLaaaaLLaahaLaaaahh-leeee-Llaaah.. dit.bzaar k.. "eh? what the hell is that, some sort of song?"
[trajectory to ice-berg, nuke sub #72 sneaks a peak..] "alles klar! its an iceberg stuck in an ocean river... how pretty.."
kids, its science and poetry, wrapped up a bit. quite being so fascist about not seeing the whole picture all the time.
Disclaimer: I am Distro-agnostic: currently running Gentoo on my Shuttle, MEPIS on my DELL laptop, my own LFS system on my embedded boards, UBUNTU on my powerbook, OE on my Zaurus, and Slackware on my i-opener. My i-opener is my favourite system for hacking/writing code, power be damned...
Yggdrasil was my first 'distro' of Linux - prior to that I rolled my own (was on minix-list looking for 'a free unix' the day linus announced his little kernel) and it was quite a drag to do so, i must say.
But Yggdrasil rocked, plain and simple.. it was one of the first Linux distributions, and certainly was the first "Live CD"-bootable Linux installation around.. if it weren't for the ease by which i could demo Yggdrasil/Linux to the rest of my gang in my dev-team, i.e. without having to install it first, just booting the CD, then that same dev-team probably wouldn't have converted to Linux so rapidly in the years afterwards.
Its sort of weird how cyclical things are, in the Linux world.. LiveCD's are so de-jour these days, but i seem to remember it being quite a 'revelation' among the linux-users at the time, even though, 10 years earlier, LiveCD's were 'normal', if you could boot from your floppy/CD-ROM combo that is..
I have over the years since that fateful minix-list day used many different linux distro's - Yggdrasil, RedHat, Arch, ROCK, Mandrake, SUSE, gentoo, MEPIS, Debian, but.. Slackware.. is the only one I feel I 'need' to have around on CD somewhere, in case I need an impromptu linux install on some random hardware. Sure, I can play keep-up with all the other whiz-bang distro's, but Slackware will always be there to Just Get Work Done when needed, and thats pretty cool for a distro, I gotta say..
being a vi user, i can't stand taking my hands off the keyboard to do mundane tasks.. and so i agree with you, only i use launchbar instead of quicksilver, because its generally faster, and was there first, and i registered it pretty much straight away..
the combination of launchbar, Terminal.app (loading my own window settings layout), Finder (when its needed) and the rest of the OSX GUI experience means that i only really use my mouse when i have to; certainly not all the time, only when its really needed, to draw something, or make some kind of sweeping selection, etc.
tablet pc's have been around for at least a decade (my ol' dauphin dtr-1 rocked with linux on it).. but microsoft put the big kabosh on such efforts in the 90's because there were too many problems with their input/GUI paradigm that made pen-style computing inefficient.
that said, pen-based computing has squished around the edges of this kabosh since then.. witness newton, witness palm, etc.
yo,.mid might just be a creative-labs driver away from chinky-chonky to you, but to countless musicians, MIDI is way, way more.
calling for such questions about MIDI as "is it just an old chiptune format" or "is it old and crufty" is pretty weak, imho..mid files' got namespace, yo. NRPN, baby.
yeah.. i mean.. its like soooo exciting watching someone's video of laundry being trampled on by repugnant little mutant dogs. over and over.
sheesh.. these sites have everything except.. a reason for such fame. what they need to do is find rogue sites of independent artists and somehow lure them into producing something.. actually interesting.. something actually worth watching..
but, then again. we have been seeing a lot of 'media studies' majors over the last 5 to 10 years.. these people, even the dropouts, have to be producing something interesting.
or, are these so-called 'services' just a diversionary tactic away from the underground, try to nip it in the bud before a 21st century rock star emerges from the inky depths of the 'net..
you guys were sooooo cool in the 90's, if you'd only get your head out of the sand and realize that people do want cool hardware, and then you actually engineered a laptop worth owning, then i could stop smoking the powerbook crackpipe and return to the hardware vendor i adored.. in the 90's..
Unix has "talk" -- but that was always pretty lame, right?
no. 'talk' is not lame. talk is useful on a multi-user system for people who do need to chat with each other, while logged onto that system.
'talk' is not, however, anything like IRC. whatsoever.
I find chatrooms (like talk) to be a real waste of time -- the signal to noise ratio is very low. It takes a very long time to transfer any signifigant technical info.
chatrooms are not (like talk).
and the point of this article, which you seem to have missed, is that some chatrooms DO provide a very significant technical info transfer function.. otherwise there wouldn't be any point to this article, would there?
yes, wilma, its quite possible that there are IRC channels which promote work, which increase productivity, and which provide a great deal of support to people - such as programmers - in need of it. these channels do exist. as a regular visitor to #openembedded, #gp2x, #uclinux, #osxhacks, and #mepis-lovers, i can attest to the fact that there are definitely great realtime IRC forums out there for particular subjects which promote productivity..
.. and thats no flame, nor troll. you don't have to look far to find fascist, dictator-like, dogma-driven personalities, especially in the corporate world. it embues the psych of the body politic. humans instinctively resist this, and it is when the desire to avoid such scenarios has its bit flipped, that a person 'switches'. whatever flips it, it flips; you become a welcome participant in -a society of doing things openly- with linux, rather than 'one of masses serving the hidden master that cannot be known'.
this flip turns a computer use scenario into productive use no matter which stick you shake, and your mindset rapidly becomes 'knowing as much as i can and need to know to get my system doing its thing'. this can go deep, or it can (thanks to the work of bridgers and gluers in the distribution world) be a very shallow experience, the huge choice is yours and depends strictly on what you specifically care to know, or find out, about how your software works. the more people do this, the better the software gets 'on a mass scale', because its only being done by people who can do it because they care to know, and for whom ignore stuff i don't know isn't really as fun as it sounds.
if you are sensitive to those things, and you 'give it a go' just to see where so many of us have gotten under our own efforts it doesn't take long before you realize that your bit is flipped. you don't over-fascinate, you just learn by doing, both activities which improve themselves when actively paired with each other.
and in linux, and within other open, free, software development efforts, we get a chance to prove, in the face of the worlds apparent toil, that humans can actually get along, do something big together, and make things work out. its a very human thing, to run someone elses code, build upon it, and do cool things because of it. its what the world needs more of right now, this peaceful working together, stripped of its hunger and greed, instead promoting more noble ideals of cooperation and improvement over toil..
its useful for when you don't need to have a full-blown fire-up/tear-down conversation, and only need to use the cell phone to provide info/updates.
its good for taxi companies, for example; they just outfit their cabbies with cell phones with this feature, and one of their traditionally biggest expenses [airtime] is now cheap as pie.
i for one welcome these new 'communication modes' that our machines are forcing upon us. maybe we'll all get along.
i feel the same way, but maybe its my atari 2600/oric-1 heritage.. i'm only going to get consoles that let me make my own games on them, as well, and not just act as a push-/publishing platform for fat rich media execs.
i hope there will be others. xbox/ps3 boxen might be 'sexy hardware', but its crap to only be able to run games that other people 'allow' you to run.. or write. or not.
for a nice price, at batches at a time, it might be interesting.
but its not interesting until the foundry actually has SKU's and can ship, and still survive on such order/delivery demand. too many CPU upstarts forget this rule and fail, countless times, their developers.
if i had my way, x86 would still be at, like, old-school fixed 386 for a bit, with good cheap and fast facilities, segmented addresses and all. of course, if i had my way, i'd grow the silicon for that in my own vat, but then, putting DOS on it may not be considered as 'hard' as i'm feeling..
You're the rat, see, and you have been placed on a foreign island, and.. well.. rats gotta do what a rats gotta do, and that means go find some love, make more rats, avoid the evil scientists and their probing machines, swim through treacherous sharky waters, get some love..
Something for my GPX2 when it arrives next month, perhaps..
People don't want computers to stay the same: you have to maintain them, add stuff, clean it up yourself, find things to do with it, etc.
The iPod is a PDA thats been locked down to do one thing, and one thing only: Play Music. PDA's have too many functions, and there is a saturation point for computer-application maintenance which is unbearable to many people. You get tired of having to maintain, tweak, fix, just to get something out of your investment.
If I spend $400 on something, I just want it to work, and work smoothly. I don't want to have to tweak, maintain, upgrade, fix, install, check out, fix, tweak, blah.
Custom Computing versus General Purpose computing means that software vendors can put a lot more focus on making their software just plain work, in affordable hardware that a person often overlooks as being 'the price of entry'. People don't buy iPods so that they've got powerful machines to do something on; they buy them to run one application, and one application only, and that is the iTunes music player.
There is a new age dawning in computing, you can see it in the bulges in peoples pockets, and that is the age of the custom, locked down computer. More and more, software people can think about putting their apps in hardware designed specifically to support their apps. The "Boxed Set" is becoming the computer...
i did read the spec, pev.. what i'm saying to archos is, make sure i can add the usb-midi.ko module to support usb-hosted MIDI interfaces, and its all good..
A general purpose CPU obviously isn't the most efficient processor for dedicated audio work, but it is the most cost effective I think.
honestly, that depends on if you are building or if you are buying.. and the point of these dual-proc low-cost systems-on-chip is that, in fact, its getting pretty darn near close to cost-effective to just have chips dedicated to your app..
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geeze what a pose
[accoustic oil^H^H^Hearthquake monitoring station].. dit
"eh? what the hell is that, some sort of song?"
[trajectory to ice-berg, nuke sub #72 sneaks a peak..]
"alles klar! its an iceberg stuck in an ocean river... how pretty.."
kids, its science and poetry, wrapped up a bit. quite being so fascist about not seeing the whole picture all the time.
distribute your game as a chroot'able .dd.tar.gz file ..
Disclaimer: I am Distro-agnostic: currently running Gentoo on my Shuttle, MEPIS on my DELL laptop, my own LFS system on my embedded boards, UBUNTU on my powerbook, OE on my Zaurus, and Slackware on my i-opener. My i-opener is my favourite system for hacking/writing code, power be damned...
Yggdrasil was my first 'distro' of Linux - prior to that I rolled my own (was on minix-list looking for 'a free unix' the day linus announced his little kernel) and it was quite a drag to do so, i must say.
But Yggdrasil rocked, plain and simple.. it was one of the first Linux distributions, and certainly was the first "Live CD"-bootable Linux installation around
Its sort of weird how cyclical things are, in the Linux world
I have over the years since that fateful minix-list day used many different linux distro's - Yggdrasil, RedHat, Arch, ROCK, Mandrake, SUSE, gentoo, MEPIS, Debian, but
being a vi user, i can't stand taking my hands off the keyboard to do mundane tasks .. and so i agree with you, only i use launchbar instead of quicksilver, because its generally faster, and was there first, and i registered it pretty much straight away..
the combination of launchbar, Terminal.app (loading my own window settings layout), Finder (when its needed) and the rest of the OSX GUI experience means that i only really use my mouse when i have to; certainly not all the time, only when its really needed, to draw something, or make some kind of sweeping selection, etc.
i find mouse users archaic, even.
SLS? yggdrasil, you mean..
tablet pc's have been around for at least a decade (my ol' dauphin dtr-1 rocked with linux on it) .. but microsoft put the big kabosh on such efforts in the 90's because there were too many problems with their input/GUI paradigm that made pen-style computing inefficient.
.. witness newton, witness palm, etc.
.. instead, i spent $170 on one of these babies, which will also be in my hands in a day or two ..
;)
that said, pen-based computing has squished around the edges of this kabosh since then
my money isn't going to be on this $700 nokia device
okay, it doesn't 'do pen', but it will soon enough..
yo, .mid might just be a creative-labs driver away from chinky-chonky to you, but to countless musicians, MIDI is way, way more.
.mid files' got namespace, yo. NRPN, baby.
calling for such questions about MIDI as "is it just an old chiptune format" or "is it old and crufty" is pretty weak, imho.
Then that means M$/$AP must be "IP Fascism", then.
I mean, a spade is a spade, right?
you shouldn't take any news source so seriously, dude. all sources are false.
yeah .. i mean .. its like soooo exciting watching someone's video of laundry being trampled on by repugnant little mutant dogs. over and over.
.. these sites have everything except .. a reason for such fame. what they need to do is find rogue sites of independent artists and somehow lure them into producing something .. actually interesting .. something actually worth watching ..
.. these people, even the dropouts, have to be producing something interesting.
..
sheesh
but, then again. we have been seeing a lot of 'media studies' majors over the last 5 to 10 years
or, are these so-called 'services' just a diversionary tactic away from the underground, try to nip it in the bud before a 21st century rock star emerges from the inky depths of the 'net
no, the point is, american pride is false. new york is an international city, it shouldn't be viewed as a sctricly american posession ..
start competing with FedEx.
you guys were sooooo cool in the 90's, if you'd only get your head out of the sand and realize that people do want cool hardware, and then you actually engineered a laptop worth owning, then i could stop smoking the powerbook crackpipe and return to the hardware vendor i adored .. in the 90's ..
sheesh. you guys. MAKE A LAPTOP DAMNIT.
Unix has "talk" -- but that was always pretty lame, right?
no. 'talk' is not lame. talk is useful on a multi-user system for people who do need to chat with each other, while logged onto that system.
'talk' is not, however, anything like IRC. whatsoever.
I find chatrooms (like talk) to be a real waste of time -- the signal to noise ratio is very low. It takes a very long time to transfer any signifigant technical info.
chatrooms are not (like talk).
and the point of this article, which you seem to have missed, is that some chatrooms DO provide a very significant technical info transfer function
yes, wilma, its quite possible that there are IRC channels which promote work, which increase productivity, and which provide a great deal of support to people - such as programmers - in need of it. these channels do exist. as a regular visitor to #openembedded, #gp2x, #uclinux, #osxhacks, and #mepis-lovers, i can attest to the fact that there are definitely great realtime IRC forums out there for particular subjects which promote productivity..
.. and thats no flame, nor troll. you don't have to look far to find fascist, dictator-like, dogma-driven personalities, especially in the corporate world. it embues the psych of the body politic. humans instinctively resist this, and it is when the desire to avoid such scenarios has its bit flipped, that a person 'switches'. whatever flips it, it flips; you become a welcome participant in -a society of doing things openly- with linux, rather than 'one of masses serving the hidden master that cannot be known'.
this flip turns a computer use scenario into productive use no matter which stick you shake, and your mindset rapidly becomes 'knowing as much as i can and need to know to get my system doing its thing'. this can go deep, or it can (thanks to the work of bridgers and gluers in the distribution world) be a very shallow experience, the huge choice is yours and depends strictly on what you specifically care to know, or find out, about how your software works. the more people do this, the better the software gets 'on a mass scale', because its only being done by people who can do it because they care to know, and for whom ignore stuff i don't know isn't really as fun as it sounds.
if you are sensitive to those things, and you 'give it a go' just to see where so many of us have gotten under our own efforts it doesn't take long before you realize that your bit is flipped. you don't over-fascinate, you just learn by doing, both activities which improve themselves when actively paired with each other.
and in linux, and within other open, free, software development efforts, we get a chance to prove, in the face of the worlds apparent toil, that humans can actually get along, do something big together, and make things work out. its a very human thing, to run someone elses code, build upon it, and do cool things because of it. its what the world needs more of right now, this peaceful working together, stripped of its hunger and greed, instead promoting more noble ideals of cooperation and improvement over toil..
its useful for when you don't need to have a full-blown fire-up/tear-down conversation, and only need to use the cell phone to provide info/updates.
its good for taxi companies, for example; they just outfit their cabbies with cell phones with this feature, and one of their traditionally biggest expenses [airtime] is now cheap as pie.
i for one welcome these new 'communication modes' that our machines are forcing upon us. maybe we'll all get along.
i feel the same way, but maybe its my atari 2600/oric-1 heritage .. i'm only going to get consoles that let me make my own games on them, as well, and not just act as a push-/publishing platform for fat rich media execs.
.. or write. or not.
like this one, for example...
i hope there will be others. xbox/ps3 boxen might be 'sexy hardware', but its crap to only be able to run games that other people 'allow' you to run
good thing i didn't use it to buy services with, then. wouldn't want the mob to have its own ISP or anything, either
for a nice price, at batches at a time, it might be interesting.
but its not interesting until the foundry actually has SKU's and can ship, and still survive on such order/delivery demand. too many CPU upstarts forget this rule and fail, countless times, their developers.
if i had my way, x86 would still be at, like, old-school fixed 386 for a bit, with good cheap and fast facilities, segmented addresses and all. of course, if i had my way, i'd grow the silicon for that in my own vat, but then, putting DOS on it may not be considered as 'hard' as i'm feeling ..
You're the rat, see, and you have been placed on a foreign island, and .. well .. rats gotta do what a rats gotta do, and that means go find some love, make more rats, avoid the evil scientists and their probing machines, swim through treacherous sharky waters, get some love..
..
Something for my GPX2 when it arrives next month, perhaps
People don't want computers to stay the same: you have to maintain them, add stuff, clean it up yourself, find things to do with it, etc.
The iPod is a PDA thats been locked down to do one thing, and one thing only: Play Music. PDA's have too many functions, and there is a saturation point for computer-application maintenance which is unbearable to many people. You get tired of having to maintain, tweak, fix, just to get something out of your investment.
If I spend $400 on something, I just want it to work, and work smoothly. I don't want to have to tweak, maintain, upgrade, fix, install, check out, fix, tweak, blah.
Custom Computing versus General Purpose computing means that software vendors can put a lot more focus on making their software just plain work, in affordable hardware that a person often overlooks as being 'the price of entry'. People don't buy iPods so that they've got powerful machines to do something on; they buy them to run one application, and one application only, and that is the iTunes music player.
There is a new age dawning in computing, you can see it in the bulges in peoples pockets, and that is the age of the custom, locked down computer. More and more, software people can think about putting their apps in hardware designed specifically to support their apps. The "Boxed Set" is becoming the computer...
for the record, i am australian, and the reason it matters is, of course, so that all us geeks can 'get our mob on' ..
the mob rules you. you know it does.
i did read the spec, pev
A general purpose CPU obviously isn't the most efficient processor for dedicated audio work, but it is the most cost effective I think.
..
honestly, that depends on if you are building or if you are buying.. and the point of these dual-proc low-cost systems-on-chip is that, in fact, its getting pretty darn near close to cost-effective to just have chips dedicated to your app
megolithic computing is one side of moores fence.