No, Sony just happens to own a movie studio and the trade group or somesuch who "represent" all studios, at least in the US, wrote it.
The MPAA (Motion Picture Association of America) is the trade group to which you refer. If you think that there is a distinction between the MPAA authoring legislation, and my statement that "Sony (and its cohorts) practically wrote this bill," you don't quite get what corporate lobbying is about.
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In the US maybe(land of the f..?), but it perfectly legal in the rest of the world, infact its the DVD region locking which is illegal in many countries.
I understand that, however the gentleman was quoting US code at me.
I don't mean to put your country down, whatever country it may happen to be, but the US being at the vanguard of co-operation with Corporate IP profiteers doesn't mean that other countries are altogether immune. As others discover that there's a bigger dollar in servicing corporate discretion rather than consumer choice, others will be following the US down the same unhappy road.
Even without the DMCA, Sony is having no problems shutting down the modchip merchants; that is not the fault of the USA. The ideas embodied in laws like the DMCA are not exclusive to that law, and there are powerful interests in every country who would like to see global changes that mirror the copyright changes in the US. So don't sleep too soundly, or be too glib about "the land of the free."
the law does not exist solely to increase corporate profits.
Why do you suppose so many were up in arms about the passage of DMCA and other sucky copyright legislation of the past few years?
The scale has been tipping that way for some years now, and the balance is not currently toward the consumer, in terms of the set of laws we are now dealing with. Nor can I see any evidence that the courts are at all inclined to see consumers' concerns as equal to corporate ones.
how about I blame you for being a fucking illiterate moron?
Let's assume, for the moment, that we both can read.
The words in the DMCA that apply here are ""prohibition on circumvention of technological measures that control access to copyrighted works" and that does refers to copy control in the sense of the copy that reads into RAM. Maybe the courts will decide differently, but I don't see how, it's pretty plain.
A lot of what "gord" says sounds right to me; here's another take on it, though, from an article in Red Herring (worth reading for its general "take" on the game wars):
"According to most estimates, Sony's PlayStation 2 cost the company $450 per unit upon initial production in early 2000. The company had first sold the machine as a loss leader for $360 in Japan and for $300 in the United States and Europe. The strategy paid off with the first Play Station because Sony was able to reduce the product's cost from $480 in 1994 to about $80 now (it was initially priced at $299 and is sold at about $99 today). Meanwhile, the company sold about nine games for every console. That model allowed Sony to make billions of dollars over the life of the PlayStation, even if it lost money at first."
It sucks, and sucks badly, but the fact of the matter is that the balance of power has tipped toward corporate IP holders who see the global communication network as a potential cash cow -- if, and only if, the paradigm changes from "you bought it, its yours." to "pay-per-play."
The laws have changed to keep pace with the corporate agenda. Presumably, the next generation won't mind having to pay a nickel every time they play a favorite song, or a dollar to play a movie, which is where this whole "you don't buy it, you license it" deal is heading.
The free economy still exists, in that corporations retain the unfettered right to gouge.
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The DMCA carries a "prohibition on circumvention of technological measures that control access to copyrighted works," which would almost certainly apply to modchips.
Therefore, the use of such devices is not "legitimate" or legal. Period.
While you guys don't have the DMCA (I've read you have similar legislation in the works, good luck avoiding it), there is plenty of room under your existing patent and copyright laws for Sony to hassle such enterprises out of business.
Of course, "International Cooperation" is the essence of worldwide copyright and patent enforcement...but don't blame the US. As in every other country that is willing to play this game, it comes of a desire to please corporate seats of power, not govenmental allies.
Bzzt. There's no law that prevents you from importing software that is otherwise legal
Maybe, but a device that routes around regional encoding (like these mod chips) is definitely forbidden by the DMCA. Therefore, its uses are by no means "legit," even if "legal."
Playing unlicensed software (out of region dvds and import games) is not "legitimate," if by legitimate what you mean is "legal."
I find regional coding abhorrent myself, but in terms of law, providing the capability of running software that isn't licensed for a release in a given region is one of the specific things the DMCA was meant to stop. It was practically written by Sony (and its cohorts).
Perhaps the poster did mean literal 13-year-olds, but I doubt it. Is there any doubt that this movie is meant to appeal to that aspect of one's mentality that is barely post-pubescent?
You missed his point. He concedes that there are, indeed, plenty of 22-year-olds who enjoy pastry masturbation, like yourself. What he was asking is, do you know Tab Hunter and, if so, would you do him?
Like you, I am shocked that Katz would have anything up on/. without addressing the porous holes in this first. Labelling your post "off-topic" when it is most certainly to the point is an unfortunate instance of moderation being used to quell dissent about the way/. is run. That is shameful. I'll be using my +1 on this, let the mod-mad do their worst.
Aside from the issue of playing divx on a Commodore* computer that was buried under a chicken coop for an unspecified number of years, the fact is that Kabul was without electric power at the time this lad was supposed to be watching Baywatch. Yes, American pop culture pops up everywhere, but I doubt if Baywatch was popping up on Kabul TV. If Katz can prove otherwise, and that should be a trivial task, let him do so.
* Who ever uses the term "my Commodore" to refer to an Amiga?
Calling this post flamebait? The moderator who did this crap should have his IP fucking banned. The trouble is this isn't exceptional...I won't go into some of the genuinely stupid moderations done on my posts lately...the moderation system needs some real fixes, pronto.
Site says, "Sorry this is down. F.B.I. call at my house (someone named Sharon) and ask me to kick it down (can't find how she got my number). Sorry, I can't host anymore, find someone else"
So, did anyone archive the data before the downfall? Post it here, and let's see if "the FBI" (if that's who 'Sharon' really was) calls/.
The Deja news archive, which is what Google's been operating with, covered only 4 or 5 years, I believe; so this is a massive increase to the database.
The fact is that, in recent years, spam has driven most of the content out of the non-binaries newsgroups, so the increase in useful, informative and interesting comments is even greater.
Also, for those of us who used to make a hobby of flaming, embarassing/amusing.
You would get this OS in items where the general consumer isn't even aware an OS is present, and you aren't likely to be sold such an item with digital rights management as a "selling point." (i.e., set-top boxes, cell phones, media players).
joker. If a list contains "titles" then it is literally movie titles. If a hard drive contains "titles," you know they are talking about individual video files with different titles.
Assuming divx compression of feature length films, 5,000 movies is a minimum of 2 terabytes, probably much more. However, knowing law enforcement's tendency to exaggerate, a lot of those 5,000 videos are probably short clips of elephants defecating, obese people masturbating, air traffic tragedies and the ilk.
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No, Sony just happens to own a movie studio and the trade group or somesuch who "represent" all studios, at least in the US, wrote it.
The MPAA (Motion Picture Association of America) is the trade group to which you refer. If you think that there is a distinction between the MPAA authoring legislation, and my statement that "Sony (and its cohorts) practically wrote this bill," you don't quite get what corporate lobbying is about.
I understand that, however the gentleman was quoting US code at me.
I don't mean to put your country down, whatever country it may happen to be, but the US being at the vanguard of co-operation with Corporate IP profiteers doesn't mean that other countries are altogether immune. As others discover that there's a bigger dollar in servicing corporate discretion rather than consumer choice, others will be following the US down the same unhappy road.
Even without the DMCA, Sony is having no problems shutting down the modchip merchants; that is not the fault of the USA. The ideas embodied in laws like the DMCA are not exclusive to that law, and there are powerful interests in every country who would like to see global changes that mirror the copyright changes in the US. So don't sleep too soundly, or be too glib about "the land of the free."
Why do you suppose so many were up in arms about the passage of DMCA and other sucky copyright legislation of the past few years?
The scale has been tipping that way for some years now, and the balance is not currently toward the consumer, in terms of the set of laws we are now dealing with. Nor can I see any evidence that the courts are at all inclined to see consumers' concerns as equal to corporate ones.
how about I blame you for being a fucking illiterate moron?
Let's assume, for the moment, that we both can read.
The words in the DMCA that apply here are ""prohibition on circumvention of technological measures that control access to copyrighted works" and that does refers to copy control in the sense of the copy that reads into RAM. Maybe the courts will decide differently, but I don't see how, it's pretty plain.
A lot of what "gord" says sounds right to me; here's another take on it, though, from an article in Red Herring (worth reading for its general "take" on the game wars):
"According to most estimates, Sony's PlayStation 2 cost the company $450 per unit upon initial production in early 2000. The company had first sold the machine as a loss leader for $360 in Japan and for $300 in the United States and Europe. The strategy paid off with the first Play Station because Sony was able to reduce the product's cost from $480 in 1994 to about $80 now (it was initially priced at $299 and is sold at about $99 today). Meanwhile, the company sold about nine games for every console. That model allowed Sony to make billions of dollars over the life of the PlayStation, even if it lost money at first."
It sucks, and sucks badly, but the fact of the matter is that the balance of power has tipped toward corporate IP holders who see the global communication network as a potential cash cow -- if, and only if, the paradigm changes from "you bought it, its yours." to "pay-per-play."
The laws have changed to keep pace with the corporate agenda. Presumably, the next generation won't mind having to pay a nickel every time they play a favorite song, or a dollar to play a movie, which is where this whole "you don't buy it, you license it" deal is heading.
The free economy still exists, in that corporations retain the unfettered right to gouge.
The DMCA carries a "prohibition on circumvention of technological measures that control access to copyrighted works," which would almost certainly apply to modchips.
Therefore, the use of such devices is not "legitimate" or legal. Period.
I'm not in favor of the law, but it is the law.
While you guys don't have the DMCA (I've read you have similar legislation in the works, good luck avoiding it), there is plenty of room under your existing patent and copyright laws for Sony to hassle such enterprises out of business.
Of course, "International Cooperation" is the essence of worldwide copyright and patent enforcement...but don't blame the US. As in every other country that is willing to play this game, it comes of a desire to please corporate seats of power, not govenmental allies.
Bzzt. There's no law that prevents you from importing software that is otherwise legal
Maybe, but a device that routes around regional encoding (like these mod chips) is definitely forbidden by the DMCA. Therefore, its uses are by no means "legit," even if "legal."
Don't blame me, it's the law.
I find regional coding abhorrent myself, but in terms of law, providing the capability of running software that isn't licensed for a release in a given region is one of the specific things the DMCA was meant to stop. It was practically written by Sony (and its cohorts).
Oh, excuse me, my concern with the ethics and proper practices of
Fine moderating, douchebag.
You're right about that, but EA's site says Fileplanet has the "exclusive." Unless someone wants to mirror the file you're SOL.
I think you mean "replied." Yes he replied, but he did not aswer any of the cogent criticisms.
Perhaps the poster did mean literal 13-year-olds, but I doubt it. Is there any doubt that this movie is meant to appeal to that aspect of one's mentality that is barely post-pubescent?
You missed his point. He concedes that there are, indeed, plenty of 22-year-olds who enjoy pastry masturbation, like yourself. What he was asking is, do you know Tab Hunter and, if so, would you do him?
And this excuses posting transparent tripe (here I refer to both the review at hand and to his li'l Afghan buddy) exactly how?
Asoka
Porn Star
Bangkok Dangerous
Cowboy Bebop: Knockin' On Heaven's Door
Megiddo: The Omega Code II
Aside from the issue of playing divx on a Commodore* computer that was buried under a chicken coop for an unspecified number of years, the fact is that Kabul was without electric power at the time this lad was supposed to be watching Baywatch. Yes, American pop culture pops up everywhere, but I doubt if Baywatch was popping up on Kabul TV. If Katz can prove otherwise, and that should be a trivial task, let him do so.
* Who ever uses the term "my Commodore" to refer to an Amiga?
Goddam Christ on a fucking cracker!
Calling this post flamebait? The moderator who did this crap should have his IP fucking banned. The trouble is this isn't exceptional...I won't go into some of the genuinely stupid moderations done on my posts lately...the moderation system needs some real fixes, pronto.
Site says, "Sorry this is down. F.B.I. call at my house (someone named Sharon) and ask me to kick it down (can't find how she got my number). Sorry, I can't host anymore, find someone else" So, did anyone archive the data before the downfall? Post it here, and let's see if "the FBI" (if that's who 'Sharon' really was) calls
Couldn't of been bigger than a few megs.
Joke? Lame "first-post?" Or stupidity?
The Deja news archive, which is what Google's been operating with, covered only 4 or 5 years, I believe; so this is a massive increase to the database.
The fact is that, in recent years, spam has driven most of the content out of the non-binaries newsgroups, so the increase in useful, informative and interesting comments is even greater.
Also, for those of us who used to make a hobby of flaming, embarassing/amusing.
You would get this OS in items where the general consumer isn't even aware an OS is present, and you aren't likely to be sold such an item with digital rights management as a "selling point." (i.e., set-top boxes, cell phones, media players).
Bill Gates: Dammit! Slashdot is about to take apart the DRM OS!
Picks up phone.
Bill Gates: Alert Bullmer! Tell him to put on his "Egg Troll" hat! It's time for some FUD!
Close Curtain.
joker. If a list contains "titles" then it is literally movie titles. If a hard drive contains "titles," you know they are talking about individual video files with different titles.
Assuming divx compression of feature length films, 5,000 movies is a minimum of 2 terabytes, probably much more. However, knowing law enforcement's tendency to exaggerate, a lot of those 5,000 videos are probably short clips of elephants defecating, obese people masturbating, air traffic tragedies and the ilk.
Even more, I wish the editors would NOTE PROPER SOURCES!!!!
This ain't no Times story; it came from Reuters, here it is no registration required.