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Review: Not Another Teen Movie
From the opening shots, you know you're going to have fun, as the movie is set in the "John Hughes High School." Unable to win acceptance mimicking African-American culture, one JHHS student decides it's now hipper to be a Jackie Chan clone and dresses and talks "Asian." One of the interesting subtexts of all teen movies is that white suburban kids want everybody else's culture, since they don't seem to have one of their own. A cheerleader with Tourette's Syndrome tries out for the squad and wins a spot.
Like all the best teen movies, this one is obsessively self-referential. Even if you've seen all of these movies, from She's All That to Karate Kid to Not Another Scary Movie to Scream to Pretty In Pink to Clueless, you still may miss half of the insider jokes and references, which whiz by in a steady, sometimes hilarious stream. Spoofs of spoofs of spoofs can work. The movie skewers almost every teen star, from Tab Hunter to Freddie Prinze Jr., even offering a cameo role to Molly Ringwald, the teen star of the Reagan era.
Not Another Teen Movie even takes shots at movies outside of the teen genre, like American Beauty (represented by a weirdo in a funny hat with a camcorder followed around by a hovering plastic bag labelled "the most beautiful thing in the world.") But American Pie comes in for the wittiest and most relentless drubbing, with Randy Quaid as the drunken Mr. Briggs who stuffs his kitchen with apple pies when he isn't hallucinating about the Vietnam War. There's also a foreign exchange student named Areola, who shows up for school wearing nothing but a backpack, pointing out that her only purpose in coming to America is to titillate brainless and horny American schoolkids. In terms of raunchiness and scatalogical humor, the movie goes farther than American Pie, pausing along the way for good measure to take on the recent spate of stupid feel-good sports movies like Remember the Titans. There are also some pointed pokes at the way the teen movies manipulate race in the shallowest of ways. "Mr. T" makes an appearance as the befuddled but wise black school janitor dispensing incomprehensible but mystical advice.
It would be pointless to try and suggest or describe anything like a plot, which the movie enthusiastically avoids. Suffice it to say there is a prom coming up, and there is a wager about whether the school's most ungainly girl can be turned into a prom queen by the venal and manipulative jocks, one of whom falls instantly in love with her. The bulk of the teen movies revolve around the same two or three points: shallow cheerleaders, dumb but noble-hearted jocks, obnoxious nerds and geeks, and faux individualists who claim they are different, but who always seem to always end up dating the best-looking kids in school and hanging out with the most popular cliques. It's a big fat target, and Not Another Teen Movie scores with surprising wit and skill. It's all in the writing.
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This article has one major flaw: Do not put quotes around Mr. T's name! Thank you.
Also, first post.
Why must we be exposed to another piece of teen movie garbage? Granted, it's a spoof, but it has the trademark "lack of intelligence" that every teen movie has...
Although I have not been to the movie yet, I could have written that review just by watching a 30 second spot on television!!!
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice. RUSH
No genre ever needed a drubbing more than the teen movie, and it gets what it deserves here.
This may be true, but personally I can think of a genre i'd like to do some drubbing to. I'm desperately searching for some relevance here, and I'm failing. News for Nerds... no. Stuff that Matters.... AahaHAHA.
Story: -1 OffTopic.
If this post was a Troll, it would be untrue.
If this post was Flamebait, I'd expect you to disagree.
If this post was OffTopic, I wouldn't have replied to Jon directly.
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And I feel even stupider for having read about you feeling stupider for having read the stupid review.
Why am I posting this, this is stupid.
"delicious ... hilarious, outrageous and on target... happily and raunchily ... outrageous
... wittiest and most relentless drubbing... raunchiness and scatalogical humor... surprising wit and skill."
... steady, sometimes hilarious stream. Spoofs of spoofs of spoofs
Like all the best teen movies, this one is obsessively self-referential.
So it refers to itself all the time? I think he just means referential.
You just have to love the well thought out and witty prose of JonKatz. The same JonKatz who has not yet apologised for his made up message from Kabul.
I like to convince myself that Slashdot posters actually read the responses to their articles, so here it is Jon: Would you please reply to all those posters (including myself) who asked you directly in your Kabul article - did you make it up?
I await your response with eagerness.
Allright, I'll accept that, but Jon, is it worth paying almost eight dollars to see? I think i'll pass..
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What the hell is this crap? What in the world does this have to do about News for Nerds? I mean, I know you guys all want to keep your job at Slashdot and keep your 6 digit salaries for surfing the web and watching anime. But seriously, ease us in to completely selling out, don't do it all at once.
why do you fags take the time to comment on his articles/reviews if u really don't like him? just ignore it - no one forces you to read anything. just a way to release some of that pent up sexual agression i guess.
The only reason this movie exists is because the Wayans brothers didn't get to it first. The real question is, is that because the Wayans brothers knew that it would be stupid?
TAB HUNTER? You mean to tell me that they so quickly ran out of satirical fodder that they had to go back....checks imdb...40 years (The Tab Hunter Show) for material? Do they really think that their audience, a bunch of 13yr olds who found pastry masturbation hysterical, are going to get such references? Most of the kids that will be going to see this probably get "She's All That" but never even saw "Pretty in Pink".
Oy. Look for Katz to next reveal that "A Beautiful Mind" sucks because there's no nudity.
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The problem is that spoofing "teen movies" is shooting fish in a barrel.
No, I take that back, it's even less challenging than shooting fish in a barrel. The inanity behind "teen movies" is so self-evident, that claiming to spoof them is redundant. It's like trying to spoof Roger Corman movies - unnecessary, and not particularly clever.
I will admit, normally I don't mind Katz articles, but the movie reviews are just off the wall. I read the reviewers whom I usually trust, and invariably what they call boring, derivative, and recycled drek will apparently get raves from Mr. Katz. I guess that's the beauty of opinion being, well, opinion and all, but still....is there ANY lowest-common-denominator entertainment he doesn't lap up and ask for seconds?
Maybe the specific "jokes" in Not Another Teen Movie are worth a chuckle, but the satirizing the "teen movie" genre is like aiming at the kid in the wheelchair in dodgeball....there's just no sport in it whatsoever. And to read a gushing review like it's some genius stroke of parodic insight...stick to sermonizing about the youth-empowering effects of the net, Katz!
I haven't seen the movie, so I really don't know if Jon's comments are accurate or not. But....why is this on Slashdot? The movie isn't even remotely geeky. Why is Katz posting this here? I'm not mad about this, just confused....
Hey, I am a 22 year old who found pastry masturbation hysterical! I actually saw this movie last night, and while the plot is non-existent, it was hilarious. I never trust any ratings for a movie aside from my own.
I want yet another movie with Heather Donahue. I hope I'm not alone on this one.
If, perhaps, you do not favourably like JonKatz and/or his reviews, there is also an option to simply ignore the reviews, not read them, and not post anything in regards to them. Judging from the posts here already, this would cut down posts to a mere handful and then maybe JonKatz would get a subtle hint.
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Agreeably though, I think a review for a movie of this calibre is completely out of place on
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90% of these comments is just whining... If you don't like the article, don't read it, and don't post trash comments. Try to keep the comments on topic...
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Ummm, this is slashdot.
Join the chorus of reasonable voices DEMANDING that Katz come clean!
Jon, your continuing silence on this matter is an indictment of your total failure as a responsible journalist and further diminishes your already suspect credibility. Admit your mistake or get your sorry butt off this forum. If Notre Dame can fire their new coach for lying on his resume, you should be treated likewise for your shameless and unapologetic representation of fiction as fact.
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Who the hell writes a review about a stupid movie like this??? It's ABSOLUTELY SCRUMPTIOUS!!! I do say!
Now THAT is irony:
"isn't this movie targeted towards immature 15 year olds and not nerds?"
followed by:
"this movie looks gay."
Et tu, Brute?
Alright people, understand the following disclaimers:
1. I am a student and my major is film, and as such I think I know everything.
2. I actually like some teen movies for what they are-- "Election," most notably, but I didn't think "The Faculty" was that bad, either.
3. I have no problem with Jon Katz, prior to this review.
Here we go then.
I saw this movie last night, as the concept amused me and a friend offered to pay. I regret it immensely.
My tastes are not what I'd call extraordinarily sophisticated; I can be amused by dumb comedy, so long as it's *smart* dumb comedy, if you catch my drift. "Scary Movie" got a few laughs out of me.
"Not Another Teen Movie" did not.
Every bit of humor is obvious and cliched. There is no wit whatsoever to this-- it seems that the makers of the movie are responsible for this heap not because they would want to pander to and work at the level of 12-year-olds, but because that's the best they can do.
It's not enough to say that an adolescent boy could have written this thing. It's more like an adolescent boy could have written it the night before it was due.
Katz gets one thing right: plot is almost non-existant. Unfortunately, without plot, we would need some other cohesive element to this the movie together-- characters, say. But there's so many characters crammed in here, haphazardly and without rhyme or reason, that the whole thing becomes difficult to follow. I've seen just about everything the movies spoofs, so I recognized the "archetypes" of the characters, but each was so bland and unfunny (although I'll admit the token black guy was vaguely amusing at one point) as to completely blend into the next.
I was worried going in that I would have seen all the jokes already in the previews. This was a mistake. I should have wanted to see more of the jokes in the previews, so that I would have known enough to save myself the 82 minutes it took to suffer through this abomination.
Save yourself from it, boys and girls. Go see "Vanilla Sky" instead. It may mess with your head, but at least you'll be thinking about something other than the eight bucks you just lost on your way out of the theater.
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It has become a tradition since he started writing articles here, just won't go away any time soon.
movie was good, but all the previews before it? damn, that shit is whack.
Just tell me we see Boobies.
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JonKatz wrote: "[...] the movie takes this oddly American cinematic genre [...]"
It might be true that nowadays teen movies are primarily made (and viewed) in the USA, but Israel and Germany had their jointly produced Eis am Stiel ("Lemon Popsicle" in the US) series from 1979 to 1988 starring Zachi Noy among others. They weren't afraid to show full frontal nudity - they probably had to, the movies being so bad that otherwise they would have all flopped. The US movie Porky's seems to have been inspired by these flicks.
The series portrays teens as stupid drooling sex addicts whose primary motivation is invariably getting laid. There are still a couple of teen movies made in Germany from time to time, but since the Germans like (and partially understand) US lifestyle they also import all of the US teen movies.
This goes to show that the US aren't the only nation capable of making silly teen movies.
Some info about Eis am Stiel (German)
A Lemon Popsicle fanpage
The Washington Post panned this movie. One of their critics (Kempley) said "Save your time, save your money, save your soul. Stay at home." Now, I have a dilemma. Should I trust Kempley or Katz?
Do any cars drive into a forest and litterally jump over the schrubbery? I hope Mr. T, being the janitor, can share with us some mystical advice on how those cars would flip over just by driving over the schrubs. Hell, you never know... Those schrubs may have been union-ized with PETA and had a ramp placed on their heads.
Oh I'm thinking of the A-Team, if you are stupid, lame, and don't watch quality programs as such. Giligigan's island was good, but lacked the total realism involved in The A-Team when it came to flipping cars upside down in Columbia and USA.
not true. a majority of the teenagers nowadays are from the 80s.
their audience, a bunch of 13yr olds
The movie is rated R. I saw it last night, there is no way this was targeted for 13 year olds. The opening scene has was of the female leads masturbating with a vibrator watching She's All That on scrambled cable.
bwahahahahahaa. ha!
The opening scene has was of the female leads masturbating with a vibrator watching She's All That on scrambled cable.
i dunno, when i was thirteen i know that's what would have interested me in a movie..
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The bulk of the teen movies revolve around the same two or three points: shallow cheerleaders, dumb but noble-hearted jocks, obnoxious nerds and geeks, and faux individualists who claim they are different, but who always seem to always end up dating the best-looking kids in school and hanging out with the most popular cliques.
Hmm... Due to the colon, I'd expect that to be a listing of the two or three points. But I definately count four there. And how the heck can you list an unspecified number of points?
I'd start going into the grammer of the article, but I'm no grammer nazi. Haven't seen him yet, he's slacking off..
Heh, I went to high school with Chris Evans (he's one of the main characters... I haven't seen the movie, but he's the one they show in the previews wearing whipped cream on his nipples). He's as much of a dumbass in real life as he is in that movie, so for that reason alone, I always laugh at the previews :) I'll probably have to rent the movie at some point, but you're not gonna catch me spending (3 * $pack_of_cigarettes) on that piece of shit movie.
In Canada it's rated AA, which means that anyone under 14 must go with adult supervision. If you're over 14, you can go alone.
Oh Canada...
...who doesn't take T seriously !
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I'm not a John Katz Hater, but who is he? Why does he write political rants AND movie reviews? Is he a seasoned expert on politics, law, and cinema? Couldn't they find someone better to write articles for Slashdot? Actually, none of the original articles posted to slashdot are ever interesting, except for the occasional book review. There's more than enough interesting offsite content for posters to comment on, so maybe Slashdot should stick to that.
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(...and the great thing is, I know it's stupid...)
If a corporation is a personhood, is owning stock slavery?
I can smell a major human interest story here :-).
/. gang cared about running an actual *news* site in their spare time from being bartenders at the busiest open source joints in town, they actually be *doing* such a thing!
JonKatz, stung by attacks on his journalistic integrity, scours the Earth for 'Junis', then makes a triumphant comeback with the guy himself and writes all about it in a Slashpost, enjoying the discomfited posts about it. Giving you the benefit of doubt, Jon. How 'bout it?
Hell, if the
$9.75 for a normal movie in Victoria BC. Closer to $14 if you go to Silver City (the biiig screens). Better pick your movie carefully.
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While I'm not terribly surprised when I hear that John Katz might be wrong, I don't see any facts here that would invalidate anything he said in this article.
It's not even clear what you're claiming he's wrong about, since he mentioned himself that the movie was "a spoof of a spoof of a parody." If anything, you're both wrong, because there's a difference between an outright spoof and a movie that doesn't take itself too seriously. Or maybe I expect a movie has to bludgeon me over the head with a "This is Supposed to be Funny" bat before I recognize it as a spoof.
Either way, I think you're trying to get way too much mileage out of a pedestrian semantic argument.
You want the truthiness? You can't handle the truthiness!
I think that if Jon Katz really cared about all the shit that he gets all the time, he would have quit writing stories on Slashdot long ago.
Yes, you have to give Jon Katz credit for the fact that he obviously knows how to write. You may not like what he writes, but he has a good command of the English language. (Which is more that you can say for many -- or most? -- Slashdot posters.)
I didn't say it wouldn't interest 13 year old boys, I just said it's not the target audience (at least not legally).
Ok guys, I saw this movie last night and I didn't laugh once, and I was completely wasted so you would think I'd be rolling on the ground. No. I wasn't...this movie was terrible, the comedy was weak and it was more disgusting than anything. "Not Another Teen Movie", thats so funny because hey guess what? IT IS ANOTHER TEEN MOVIE...it's just the stupidest one yet. For the love of everything holy, save your money and don't see this crap.
Considering that 13 year olds can see rated R movies legally (as long as their with a parent) then I don't think making kids younger than 17 their marketing target is illegal. The studios got into some PR trouble over marketing to kids a few months (a year?) ago, but as far as I know they never got fined for it or anything.
Hehe... I doubt this story took much skill to write. I have 2 stoner room mates that could have done the same.
No doubt, I probably end up watching the movie for some dumb reason... and I'll probably laugh my ass off. I kind of had to be dragged into see scary movie, but that turned out to be somewhat ok. Isn't this movie made by the same folks?
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I thought /. sent Katz on assignment to Afghanistan as their field correspondent.
I even remember reading melodramatic overly wordy reports from the front from his Tales from the AfghaniHellmouth series.
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Really?
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You could also go to matinees if you don't have any cheap theatres, and of course you shouldn't be buying snacks/drinks at the concession stands.
How precisely do you suggest we go about achieving this feat?
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This is a spoof post of a parody
[Go see 'Not Another Teen Movie Spoof', its a spoof of the recent film 'Not Another Teen Movie' and takes the piss out of cheap Teen Movies (tm) where a bunch of 25-year-olds play teenagers in a film that spoofs the spoof of a film that has no plot. 'Not Another Teen Movie Spoof' contains all the great ingreadiants too spoofs of teen movie spoofs, such as the explination of how spoof teen movies explain the basic plot of all horror movies and then mold this around the film. I look forward to seeing the next film in the series out next year called 'Not Another Spoof of a Teen Movie Spoof'....]
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What the hell is a fucking teen movie review doing on fucking slashdot?! If no one else has noticed this is normally a slightly TECHNICAL site. Get the shit off of /.'s front page. Thanks, and you moderators can go to hell considering your motto is, and I quote, "News for Nerds. Stuff that matters." I thought that slashdot was the 'root' of all tech news. Now it's anything they can put on the damn front page to attract attention.
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JonKatz's review is "Offtopic." However, let me bring this article into Slashdot's realm of coverage by pointing out an issue related to Your Rights:
If you have a DVR or can otherwise record the TV teaser for this movie in a high-quality way, check out the scene where the woman in a dress falls through the stairs.
Just after they switch to a shot looking down on her (or more likely, her stunt-double) falling into the abyss, there are about 6 frames where her dress most obviously should hike up to the point of heavy undergarment exposure. However it is quite obvious that someone whipped out the Paintbrush tool and did a ridiculously fake-looking, blurry censorship job.
This was only a guess until I dropped my TiVo remote and punched up www.apple.com. I visited their generous selection of trailers and viewed the same footage through the wonders of Broadband. Frame-by-framing with the Quicktime viewer, I located the same set of frames and confirmed that, in fact, the online version displays a great deal of unadulterated Good Old White Cotton American Freedom.
This posting is not intended as an exercise in lechery but instead as an anchor, attaching in some small way this obviously matter-free, nerd-unrelated article to the Slashdot favorite topic, Censorship.
JonKatz should thank me. No personal checks, plesae.
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Oh no! My karma's down to 47 now! Whatever will I do? It's probably that ass-licker Katz modding this too!
"No genre ever needed a drubbing more than the teen movie, and it gets one here. "
are you serious? the entire teen film genre is based on self deprication. get a clue.
Granted, the movie was about twice as long as it should have been, and simply ran out of things to make fun of. And, yes, they beat the dead horse that became Cruel Intentions into anthrax-worthy particles of meatjuice.
That being said, I have to respect movies that have some decently obscure and enjoyable subtexts. For example:
1) The Title. Not Another Teen Movie. The joke is, it *is* another teen movie...so, "Not ANOTHER Teen Movie!?!", instead of "NOT Another Teen Movie." Possibly unintentional, but given the ending(worth gritting through, just to hear the last words from the last speaker) I doubt it.
*SPOILER ALERT*
2) Amanda. So they mocked the bejesus out of Jennifer Love Hewitt's role in Can't Hardly Wait. Sure, fish in a barrel. But giving Lacey Chabert, who costarred with her on Party of Five and probably had to choke on Hewitt's silicone-enhanced shadow for years on end, the opportunity to lay waste to her former colleague...heh. Impressive.
Incidentally, am I the only one who is tired of "I used to like Katz, but now, with this horrific review of such-and-such, I have to change my mind"? STFU. Quit cloning Indy Rock Pete; Katz at least can choose to like or dislike whatever the hell he feels without consulting IMDB to make sure that he's rating Remember the Goddamn Titans higher than a silly hyperreferential uber-spoof of a flick.
And that's more than I can say about at least one of you. :-)
--Dan
Damn, let's declare everything offtopic here
I am a person of the type that finds myself amused by most things - simple humor, subtle humor, you name it and I'll laugh. This is the way to be! Tell me, which is more fun? Sitting in a movie theatre laughing or sitting in a movie theatre thinking about one's superiority to "such a low caliber movie"? In the theatre I was in, I laughed and so did everyone else. Sounds like a good movie to me. If you take it as it's intended, you'll enjoy it. Also, to those of you who are complaining about teen movies being on /. I have two questions:
1. Why are you here?
2. Why are there so many comments on this page?
If this topic matter was so inapplicable to /.ers, nobody would be here.
The studio can now either make cuts to get the film in a rating that fits with their target audience, or go ahead and release it. Since it's rated R, their target audience shoudln't be 13 yr old kids.
However, if you believe the studio meant for adults to enjoy this movie more than the aforementioned 13 yr old kids, you probably believe tobacco companies want to discourage kids from smoking too.
bleh
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God yes..
I know this will get modd'ed down to nothing, but I need release:
/.?
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1) What does some airhead teen comedy have to do with
2) Why is JK still employed with
Ok, I'm done sighing now...
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Figures that Katz would call it whitty.
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There was one other pretty decent set of metajokes in there -- note the reference to asians:
1) The only asian "character" was a white guy.
2) The asian male actors didn't speak but did know kung fu.
3) The asian female actresses were bitchy but subordinate(indeed, could only speak in unison) behind the white head cheerleader.
Mind you, I'm just some white guy. But I have noticed there aren't actually, um, any asian male stars in Hollywood. Like, at all.
Unless they fight.
By contrast, there *has* to be a Token Black Guy, and he *has* to be obvious. Bonus points if he's got an African name.
For a crude movie, this was some elegant subtlety.
--Dan
Not that I particularly have a problem with smoking, but the combination of:
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1) Doing a drug that gives more misery when you're off of it than it does pleasure when you're on it,
2) Thinking of money in terms of how much of that drug it buys you,
and
3) Mocking someone else for being a dumbass
...is a hell of a combination
--Dan
A review of a movie of this nature is totally out of place on slashdot.
What's next, a review of which laundry detergent makes your 'whites whiter and your brights brighter'? After all, nerds do laundry too.
Imagine a beowulf cluster of washing machines!
I seem to get Katz'd every time I change browsers. I guess it serves me right for surfing slashdot as an ac. Now where the hell is that email with my slashdot userid and password in it...
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Considering the glowing review Katz's gave "Behind Enemy Lines" -- a mediocre Hollywood turd if there ever was one -- I'll take this review with many grains of NaCl.
I bet this is one of those types of movies with about 10 or 15 gags throughout the whole movie that are actually funny, and those are the same ones that they show a million times in the trailer.
And this excuses posting transparent tripe (here I refer to both the review at hand and to his li'l Afghan buddy) exactly how?
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Let's look at a representative sentence:
"In terms of raunchiness and scatalogical humor, the movie goes farther than American Pie, pausing along the way for good measure to take on the recent spate of stupid feel-good sports movies like Remember the Titans."
His metaphors are hackneyed and ill-applied here. The sentence indicates that the movie "pauses" its raunchiness and bathroom humor in order to "take on" "stupid" sports movies. The sentence actually makes no literal sense.
Counting the hackneyed phrases:
1. "In terms of"
2. "goes farther than"
3. "for good measure"
4. "pausing along the way"
5. "recent spate"
The excercise of expressing the same ideas without such well-worn phrases would be an ideal task for someone seeking to sharpen his writing skills. Like, for instance, Jon Katz.
You missed his point. He concedes that there are, indeed, plenty of 22-year-olds who enjoy pastry masturbation, like yourself. What he was asking is, do you know Tab Hunter and, if so, would you do him?
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I can't believe I forgot to mention this. Even with Hollywood's obsession with Asian guys as fighters, they still managed to cast a f*cking white guy for the next big hyperreferential spoof movie of the year, Kung Pow.
Granted, they found Dave Barry's evil twin, and the movie looks utterly hilarious(meaning l33t hax0r wannabe Katzbashers will set their flamethrowers on 'troll flambe con carne' come January 18th), but for f*ck's sake is the concept of some actor kicking ass *and* making people laugh so disturbingly alien that the casting director couldn't imagine an Asian guy doing both at the same time?
WTF: Carrot Top is an international star while Margaret Cho gets her ass booted off the air in her first season for doing that *truly* American McArt form, "People are f*cking retarded, that's the situation." Oh well. She's free to mock whatever she likes in clubs around the country now, while Carrot Top whores himself out to 1-800-Collect(the place where stars nicely say 'I can no longer afford to pay ten cents a minute, but if this doesn't pan out, I'll be earning $2.99 a minute').
I suppose there's some justice in the world after all.
--Dan, who is flashing back to "There is no justice, there is just us."
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He is roll model for m3
I have seen this trailer but not full DiVX
You send to me Mr. Jon Katz?
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Even as a teenager I thought that "teen" movies were a waste of time and money. Sure, I risked the social suicide but if I had to do it all over again...I'd risk the social suicide all over again. Because the kinds of people who made a point of seeing teen movies when they were teens turned into pretty dull and uninteresting people.
The only "teen" movie ever made worth its salt is "American Graffiti", ostensibly because it was a look back ten years later and as a result found a lot more substantial territory to communicate than just "Gee, 13 year old boys with disposable income will flock to our movie so they can laugh at masturbation and blowjob jokes. Hehehehehehehe."
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Perhaps the poster did mean literal 13-year-olds, but I doubt it. Is there any doubt that this movie is meant to appeal to that aspect of one's mentality that is barely post-pubescent?
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I really dont understand your attitude towards teen movies and i cant concieve in "American Graffiti", being the only movie worth watching. Unless your one of those people that cant have fun being open to different things, not to be confused with being part of the in crowed. Wait a min, are you scared to be yourself and make up your own mind or do you just fallow a different crowed.
I haven't seen drivel like this since Freddy Got Fingered.
What I wanna know is who pays people to come up with this crap. I'm really hoping this recent teen movie craze will disappear like the plague it is.
No, they just target them at the 25% stupidest, most gullible and easily-amused individuals. I say, just give them a link to The Center for the Easily Amused and leave it at that.
*grumble* Stupid movie studios...
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When in fact, it simply takes the same old tired "plot" (and I use the term quite loosely) devices and takes their obviousness above and beyond what is normally done? It sounds to me like the same writers who write the kind of dreck the movie is trying to spoof just turned around and made it even more obvious, banal, and raunchy. So all they're really doing is taking the same content to a new level. It's hardly "achey breaky song" type spoofing, that's for sure.
"No problem. I have the capacity to do infinite work so long as you don't mind that my quality approaches zero."-Dilbert
I think I'll wait and see what The Filthy Critic thinks about it.
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Hi everybody! =) This is tom from blink 182!!
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I am here becuase I'm starting a side project!!! Since I have so many fans here, I figured that this would be the best place to recruit!!!!!
Blink 182 just isn't gay enough for me. See, I like to give head WHILE i'm getting fucked in the ass. Thats just too "gross" for my friends in Blink 182, who are conservative and practice only traditional gay sex.
So, I am starting a side project. I'm looking for other band members who appreciate homosexual punk rock -- the kind that makes blink 182 look like
Well, to be honest, this isn't so much of a band as it is a gathering of other gays with the same tastes in faggotry. We'll play for 15 minutes or so, then we'll have a big gay orgy. I hope to have a band member with a big penis, (say, 4 inches or so) that can really strech out my colon.
You know what I want? To be taco-snotted. I want someone to give me head, then blow my semen out their nose all over me. I think that would be cool.
Anyone who is interested, let me know!!!
Rating: AA - Meaning: Adult Accompaniment
AA is essentially 'R', meaning restricted to those under 18. The rating that's anyone over 14 is 14A, which is the in-between of PG-13 and AA.
My mistake, I interpreted AA as 18A, defined under the Canadian Home Video Rating System. In Ontario and the Maritimes, AA==14A. If you really care, look at: http://www.gtm.ca/cdn_ratings_comparison.html and you can find a comparison of American and Canadian ratings, as well as explanations of both. The thing with Canada, is that our ratings are province wide, not national.
Joining the likes of Pee Wee Herman and other losers who visit adult peepshows, JonKatz has spooged himself at the local theater while watching "Not Another Teen Movie."
Below is a transcript of an interview with JonKatz:
JK: "Actually, thought this was going to be a porn movie because the word teen was in the title. As spam has taught us (and boy do I miss the original hormel spam logo), teen = porn."
Interviewer: "John, I didn't even ask you a question yet. Do you ejaculate this fast too?"
JK: "Look at this spot on my pants - I just did, you're kinda cute, but too old for my tastes."
Interviewer: "Yuck. Let's try and keep this on a somewhat professional level, okay John?"
JK: "Yes, okay."
Interviewer: "So you found out it wasn't a porn movie, then what?"
JK: "I did what I always do. I get up and go look for a cute boy to sit down next to. Then I put him out with a cloroform rag and fondle his balls with one hand while I masturbate with the other."
Interviewer: "Really. That's, ummm... Disturbing."
JK: "Not to me. I do it all the time, and I get a discount when I show my NAMBLA card when purchasing cloroform."
Interviewer: "So you do this a lot then?"
JK: "All the time. Well, actually, sometimes the movies I see don't have any young boys in the audience due to the adult nature of the film, however, I can usually pleasure myself in those circumstances, or I bring one of the Slashdot crew along for company.
Interviewer: "Well, that's all the time we have for today, check back next week for the highly anticipated interview with the goatse.cx guy! Goodnight and God bless.
stop trying to imagine that you could one day be as cool at OOG_THE_CAVEMAN
I went and saw this last night with some friends from work. It's the worst movie I think I have ever seen. I left after an hour and e-mailed my friends with this...
My own opinion that I formed while watching the film was this... The films that NATM were trying to parody, were in fact parodies themselves. It is at that point that the movie becomes pointless. Parody worked with Airplane because is was poking fun at something that took itself seriously. I enjoy raunch as much as the next person. But there was not one character you could care about. No character had any motivation to do any of the things they did. All it was, was an hour and a half send-up of every dumb teen movie for people who were too stupid to get any of the jokes the first time around. (Orion, you did say that Molly enjoyed it right?) There was not one shred of intelligence anywhere in the film, and that is what I thought was sad. It made Airplane look like a Mensa candidate.
Thankfully I only spent $5
It's mandatory to wash your hands before returning to the land of Dairy Queen.
A young man and woman are in bed together acting like they are having sex (they make sexual remarks) while another young man films them (one young man is bare to the waist with his boxer shorts on and the other has his pants around his ankles). A young woman kisses an older woman and we see their tongues probing each other's mouths, and we see lots of stringy saliva. A young woman takes off her robe (she's wearing a slinky teddy), climbs in bed trying to seduce a young man (who happens to be her brother), climbs on his lap and rubs herself on him. A young man and woman kiss a couple of times and a young man and woman nearly kiss, but they miss. We see a couple of nude women exposing their bare breasts and buttocks several times. A locker room scene shows young women with bare breasts and panties and a young man wearing a jock strap exposing his buttocks, and another locker room scene shows young women in their bras and panties. We see the bare buttocks of a young woman pressed against a window as she has sex (we don't see the act itself but hear her remarks). An animated bird perches on a young woman's bare breast. A young man is nude, with whipped cream and cherries on his chest, whipped cream on his private parts and whipped cream and a banana sticking out of his buttocks; he asks a young woman if she's hungry. Young men and women dance suggestively and a young woman kisses her brother passionately while they dance. Cheerleaders dance suggestively on a football field. A father suggests that his son needs a "rebound girl" and offers the young man's mother. A young woman talks to a young man about having anal sex with numerous partners. A young woman is shown in bed, she pulls a vibrator out of a sock, turns it on, puts it under the covers (presumably at her crotch), acts as if she's stimulated, and a parade of people come into the room (her priest, her father, her grandparents, some orphan children, her dog). Many young women are shown wearing cleavage revealing tops and hiphuggers which show bare abdomens. A young woman struts down a hallway in a short skirt, and a midriff and cleavage revealing shirt. Young women are shown in cheerleading outfits with short skirts and tight fitting tops. A man is repeatedly shown in his underwear (boxer shorts and a tank T-shirt). Three young men climb into an air vent in order to watch a young woman use the toilet. There is sexual innuendo: A young woman repeatedly refers to wanting to have sex with her brother, a young woman asks an older woman if she has ever performed oral sex on a woman, a man holds two pies over his crotch and talks about having a "three-way," a young man encourages his older sister to have sex saying that he can't until she does, as a young man walks down a hallway he is pelted with panties and a jock strap, young men talk about a bet to see who will have sex first, there's a hot dog stand in a school cafeteria with a sign which reads: "hot dogs for practicing oral sex," a reference to looking for sex, a reference to oral sex, a young woman talks about her mother having been a prostitute, and there are several references to masturbation. Young men admire a young woman as she comes down some stairs. Football players have sexual terms on the backs of their jerseys.
There's the guy on ER who played the exchange student on 16 Candles.... One second while I find his name on imdb.
Ah, here it is. Gedde Watanabe.
And then there's B.D. Wong or something like that. Seen him in a bunch of movies and tv shows. He's the priest on the HBO series "Oz". And was one of the wedding coordinators in Steve Martin's "Father of the Bride" movies. And I've seen him do small roles in a host of others movies. (I'm too lazy to look his name up on imdb.
I am not a teenager, so why should I care at all about this movie ? I wish JonKats would stop posting this crap.
This is how the title should have been written out on the previews and movie posters:
Not Another Teen Movie!
Shut your hole Wang Chung!
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Every so often Jon Katz writes a review, and generally a decent review, and every time you folks flock together to trash him and his review. Well, in case somebody hasn't told you lately, YOU PEOPLE SUCK!
The main things a film review can tell me:
1. How many breasts?
2. How many dead bodies?
3. Do heads roll?
4. Kung Fu?
I was quite impressed with Katz at first, a few years ago, but that was when I thought he was a
high school kid writing about politics from the
point of view of a teenager.
Eventually, I came to realize that Jon Katz is
a middle aged man who has the insights and motivations and interests of a teenager.
Instead of the gifted teenager I thought he was,
he's just Jon Katz.
Nobody's saying he's about to write a best-seller that's acclaimed in the NYT Book Review. I'm just saying that the quality of the language he uses is up there with most professional journalists, at least on the Internet (or in most minor newspapers). His writing may be cliched, but this is in part because he has a decent grasp of the genre he's writing in, rather than typical web fare which often looks like it's lifted from a chat room. Furthermore, I doubt that many of the posters here would be capable of writing a review of this movie, which I saw last night, and make it absorbing enough to
As for the movie itself:
I think it's mostly a me-too rip-off of Scary Movie in concept, but my girlfriend says that they did an excellent job of spoofing all of the movie that they cover. I couldn't really say, because I haven't seen Pretty In Pink, Cruel Intentions, or She's All That, which apparently account for the bulk of the references made. It's interesting to note that these so-called parody movies really have little appeal to people who actually *dislike* the genre -- the makers are, in fact, celebrating the genre and perpetuating our absorption in their cookie-cutter plots and characters.
I think a really clever parody would surround all this ridiculousness with an original and clever plot, displaying the contrast between the cynical, lackluster conception of teen movies and the true potential of a quality production.
Your argument is far more confusing than mine.
I say (clearly I thought) that NATM is not very good and that if you want to see movies that are "good" spoofs of the Teen Genre then look at Clueless and Bring It On.
What the Hell are you talking about?
As for your assessment about a difference beteen a movie that is a spoof and a movie that doesn't take itself too seriously; it is _you_ who are wrong. This movie, NATM, set out to be a spoof. They thought they were making a spoof when they concieved, pitched, shot and distributed the movie. They were serious about it. They were also about two miles short of the mark.
John Katz said it was a good spoof. He's wrong. By next weekend we'll all know I'm right.
But thank you and, please, come again.
This
Porky's was a canadian film, not american.
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Don't forget "Dazed And Confused" as a good looking-back movie too. Lots of scenes in that "DAC" movie were straight out of my high school years.
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I was unable to sense the irony necessary to complain about putting quotes around Mr. T's name. Lawrence Tero is the person behind the "character" of Mr. T, who then basically played and replayed himself. Of course, this was a review of spoof of a parody of a...etc. etc. so perhaps your complaint was posted as an art piece? Or an "art piece"?
Or did you just complain because 'Mr. T ate your balls'?
If you really care...
Not really, no.