The US government created the internet through the US military and paid for it's invention. The US government is in turn controlled by us, or at least it is controlled by the non-lazy mofo's who do something about it. So please stop your whining and complaining about how washington will screw this up.. their batting a pretty good game so far from where i'm seated.
you must be green. get real dude. there's nothing wrong with propriery software. If your getting a 100 an hour, you do it the way they want and you don't try and push your softpoli beliefs on them.
do the damn contract and fight your os fight with your os projects.
Even with 40 Billion and a major anti open source slant, Linux is still kicking ass. Open Source software rules. It's the only thing that can bring them down. The government coudn't do it, lawsuits can't do it, but open source will in time, beat them back down.
1) drive space makes no difference in the corp world today 2) cpu power is not a concern 3) memory usage is not a concern 4) "runs on linux" is not a concern
What is:
1) compatible r/w file formats with what everyone else is using 2) cheaper 3) comes pre-installed with a new pc
"gee look, it only uses 7 MB where word uses 11!!! holly cow.. it's revolutionary!" DOH!
I'd like the name of one company, which relies on a GPL based product, that is profitable.
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You said it bro.
This line sticks out:
"Even though it started as a consumer-led phenomenon, the Internet's greatest impact has been on business."
The Internet's greatest impact has been on the the voice it gives the public. Business is just using it as a tool, people use it to invoke change in the systems that regulate their lives.
business. ha. this article "missed it.", and so does Andreesen apparently.
You want this kind of functionality you can find it in a number of languages that exists today. Those languages - their runtime libs and their vm's, are built with c.
Mother nature didn't throw the gene out once she had the human being.
Builders always use metal beams to build sky scrapers.
Developers build prototype based language systems using c.
If you throw out the basic building blocks, inovation and invention stall - you always have to have 'the basics' on which everything else is built upon.
The problem you mention is not with the c language, it is in the fact that you are trying to adapt a linear system to a parallel one. You need to start with two parallel systems and go from their instead.
I can't believe somebody could ask the question - why learn an old language like c? That's the craziest question i've ever heard. That 'old' language is the language all of the current 'newer' languages are implemented in. At the base level, it all comes down to c code. If you don't understand the basic building blocks, how can you possibly expect to master a higher level language built with them? C#, C++, Java, Perl, Python, Lua, Javascript or whatever.. the libraries that compile and run those languages are written in c.
Also, IMHO c is one of the most elegant and powerful languages around. Written correctly,
it is one of cleanest languages that exists.
On other languages:
- Java and C++ are disgusting to look at and overly complex.
- Python is a hack.
- Perl is ugly.
You have to really step up into the higher level prototype based languages like Lua before you get to a point where the code is elegant again. But before you program in any of these 'next generation' languages, you really have to understand what their built with.
Make their lists worthless. Compile this, run it, and put the result up on your favorite web site. Hide a link to it in your pages. Also add a disalow in your robots.txt so Google doesn't waste time on it.
- I want to release this code into the public domain to promote it as a standard, help other people etc.
There are people out there who think -
- I want to release this code into the semi-public domain in an effort to help people and force my political beliefs on them.
The first choose a "free software license", the second choose the GPL.
I choose free software and accept that companies can use it for commercial purposes. My point in releasing it was not to make money off of it or forward my political beliefs.
Which one are you? I'll give you a hint, Stallman is #2)
If whine want's to keep some code proprietary to protect their business while still promoting an open standard with a workable code base, that's just fine with me. If the standard grows in popularity you end up with an open standard backed up by a successful company. This works.
See www.opengl.org for a good example.
doxygen doesn't do c code very well, and it doesn't seem to handle c structure definitions very well either. it's primariliy aimed at c++ code i think.
I garner enough stress from Windows 98, 2k and now XP. Do I really want _another_ crashy, buggy Microsoft product... in my living room? no thanks. It's a GameCube for me.
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How bout doing some damage control on your credit so you don't have to worry about it?
wtf are you people smoking?
p.s. can i buy some?
Were talking about a government here that instigated the creation of orgs like the World Bank, the United Nations, etc. etc.
Somebody has to run the domain system.. if it isn't the US Government, how bout China then? would that make all you anti-gov freaks happy?
I think out of all the governmental systems in the world, the US Government is best suited to handle deciding how this system is managed.
The US government created the internet through the US military and paid for it's invention. The US government is in turn controlled by us, or at least it is controlled by the non-lazy mofo's who do something about it. So please stop your whining and complaining about how washington will screw this up.. their batting a pretty good game so far from where i'm seated.
you must be green. get real dude. there's nothing wrong with propriery software. If your getting a 100 an hour, you do it the way they want and you don't try and push your softpoli beliefs on them.
do the damn contract and fight your os fight
with your os projects.
jeesh. what an idiot.
Even with 40 Billion and a major
anti open source slant, Linux is still
kicking ass. Open Source software
rules. It's the only thing that can
bring them down. The government
coudn't do it, lawsuits can't do it,
but open source will in time, beat
them back down.
Yeah!
Come on people..
1) drive space makes no difference in the corp world today
2) cpu power is not a concern
3) memory usage is not a concern
4) "runs on linux" is not a concern
What is:
1) compatible r/w file formats with what everyone else is using
2) cheaper
3) comes pre-installed with a new pc
"gee look, it only uses 7 MB where word uses 11!!! holly cow.. it's revolutionary!" DOH!
I'd like the name of one company, which relies on a GPL based product, that is profitable.
You said it bro.
This line sticks out:
"Even though it started as a consumer-led phenomenon, the Internet's greatest impact has been on business."
The Internet's greatest impact has been on the the voice it gives the public. Business is just using it as a tool, people use it to invoke change in the systems that regulate their lives.
business. ha. this article "missed it.", and so does Andreesen apparently.
your right, i thought of this when i posted it. bad idea.
Python is a hack
The api's aren't put together in a clean and organized fashion.. actually I should have said - Python's libraries are a hack.
Perl is ugly
ahh, a difference of opinion i guess...
You want this kind of functionality you can find it in a number of languages that exists today. Those languages - their runtime libs and their vm's, are built with c.
Mother nature didn't throw the gene out once she had the human being.
Builders always use metal beams to build sky scrapers.
Developers build prototype based language systems using c.
If you throw out the basic building blocks, inovation and invention stall - you always have to have 'the basics' on which everything else is built upon.
The problem you mention is not with the c language, it is in the fact that you are trying to adapt a linear system to a parallel one. You need to start with two parallel systems and go from their instead.
Also, IMHO c is one of the most elegant and powerful languages around. Written correctly, it is one of cleanest languages that exists.
On other languages:
- Java and C++ are disgusting to look at and overly complex.
- Python is a hack.
- Perl is ugly.
You have to really step up into the higher level prototype based languages like Lua before you get to a point where the code is elegant again. But before you program in any of these 'next generation' languages, you really have to understand what their built with.
my 2 cents.
dude, buy a c book. Of course you can return
an array.
int * analyse( int result[], int size )
{
int i;
int * data;
data = malloc( sizeof( int ) * size );
for( i = 0; i < size; i++ )
{
data[i] = i;
}
return data;
}
int main(int argc, char* argv[])
{
int i;
int data[2];
int * result;
result = analyse ( data, 2 );
for ( i = 0; i < 2; i++ )
printf( "%d\n", result[i] );
free( result );
return 0;
}
Do guns kill people or do people kill people?
Do VCR's make illegal copies of movies or do people make illegal copies of movies?
Do computers make illegal copies of cd's or do people make illegal copies of cd's?
Do computers make illegal copies of software or do people make illegal copies of software?
I stopped useing Yahoo's eGroups because
of this, and i'll stop reading slashdot
too if they get too intrusive.
fucknozzles.
real world wide web sites don't wear ads.
Ditto - me too. Go f*** yourselves. I'll never buy another Blizzard game again.
Make their lists worthless. Compile this, run it, and put the result up on your favorite web site. Hide a link to it in your pages. Also add a disalow in your robots.txt so Google doesn't waste time on it.
#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>
#include <string.h>
#include <math.h>
#define MAX_DOMAINS 8
static char * domains[MAX_DOMAINS] =
{
"com", "edu", "biz", "net", "gov", "it", "ru", "info"
};
int getRandomLength( void )
{
float val = (float)rand();
val = val / RAND_MAX;
val = val * 20;
return (int)val;
}
char getRandomChar( void )
{
float val = (float)rand();
val = val / RAND_MAX;
val = val * 26;
return (char)( ((int)val) + 0x61 );
}
int main(int argc, char* argv[])
{
char c;
char buf[1000];
FILE * fp;
int accountLength;
int subDomainLength;
int bufIndex;
int i, g;
int gencount = atoi( argv[1] );
printf( "Generating %i accounts.\n", gencount );
fp = fopen( "emaillist.html", "w" );
if ( fp == 0 ) return 0;
for ( int dcount = 0; dcount < MAX_DOMAINS; dcount++ ) {
g = gencount;
while ( g > 0 ) {
memset( buf, 0, sizeof( buf ) );
bufIndex = 0;
accountLength = getRandomLength();
subDomainLength = getRandomLength();
for ( i = 0; i <= accountLength; i++ ) {
c = getRandomChar();
buf[bufIndex] = c;
bufIndex++;
}
buf[bufIndex] = '@';
bufIndex++;
for ( i = 0; i <= subDomainLength; i++ ) {
c = getRandomChar();
buf[bufIndex] = c;
bufIndex++;
}
buf[bufIndex] = '.';
bufIndex++;
strcat( &buf[bufIndex], domains[dcount] );
fprintf( fp, "%s ", buf );
g--;
}
}
fclose( fp );
return 0;
}
Microsoft has been fairly successful in the software only market. Apple could be too. I think this is an excellent idea.
God likes th Denver Broncos. :P
That was a JOKE!
There are people out there who think -
- I want to release this code into the public domain to promote it as a standard, help other people etc.
There are people out there who think -
- I want to release this code into the semi-public domain in an effort to help people and force my political beliefs on them.
The first choose a "free software license", the second choose the GPL.
I choose free software and accept that companies can use it for commercial purposes. My point in releasing it was not to make money off of it or forward my political beliefs.
Which one are you? I'll give you a hint, Stallman is #2)
If whine want's to keep some code proprietary to protect their business while still promoting an open standard with a workable code base, that's just fine with me. If the standard grows in popularity you end up with an open standard backed up by a successful company. This works.
See www.opengl.org for a good example.
The Tick, Kicked Ass.
I am.. Batmanuel!
What a loss. sniff.
doxygen doesn't do c code very well, and it doesn't seem to handle c structure definitions very well either. it's primariliy aimed at c++ code i think.
2c
and they use a pdf instead of html. go figure.
I garner enough stress from Windows 98, 2k and now XP. Do I really want _another_ crashy, buggy Microsoft product... in my living room? no thanks. It's a GameCube for me.
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