Oh, I dunno. How about something generally agreed upon to be random so far as we're concerned, like turbulence or radioactive decay? Or we could make up clever experiments involving phenomena which are fundamentally understood but too complex in practice for us to predict, and therefore couldn't be wholly designed.
If something like that managed to exhibit specified complexity, we'd have something.
If i gave our solar system as an example of specific complexity without design, someone could simply say it was designed... If i used a human being as dito, someone could claim it was designed... One of those boring-looking rocks with fancy crystals inside? Same thing.
And comparing say evolution to radioactive decay isn't any good, evolution isn't just random, it's random with a filter and a feedback-loop applied to it. As such it can exhibit much greater "specific complexity" without being designed.(Still won't stop anyone from claiming design with impunity from disproof)
William Dembski, who is probably the most recognized figure in ID, has provided mathematical backing to the notion of specified complexity, which is a test for design. This filter can be applied to a wide variety of things, not just biological complexity. If Dembski's filter indicated that something was designed that we knew in advance wasn't, it would cast serious doubts on his ideas.
"knew in advance wasn't"
How?
Well, let's take the Bohr model as an example. Was it shown to be superflous? No, it was proven to be wrong. Unnecessery but possible is far from impossible.
You are still off the mark, hard is not the same as impossible, if for example inheretance was proven wrong, evolution whould fall, what could possibly prove GOD not to exist?
Well that's a lot of text, but the only thing you really said is that neither the authors not the translators were perfect, and then tried to use a few improbabilities out of a another large text as proof of it. You see, a few improbabilities with imperfect authors/translators in a large text is a probability.
Ideas like quantum mechanics and particle-wave duality overthrew the Bohr model.
Exatly, he Bohr model was subject to disproof, hence a valid scientific theory. A creator(besides me) in not.
And suppose we call them pink elephants instead of electrons? Unless we can show elephantile shape and pink colour we might as well call them green sqirrels. Or and infinite number of other names - all equally retarded.
Electrons are quite easy to measure. The worst that can happen is that it is something else having the exact same properties, but even then it does'nt matter because a rose by a different name...
Supreme being? You'd end up calling the laws of physics that but the difference is that people jump to a bunch of other psychotic conclutions regarding unrelated propertis.
The data on the disk becomes useless. All you need is a device that can tell you if the disk has been read while in route. Such things cost a lot less than $20k.
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The 'k' in "kilo" is still not capitalized!
It's porno?
From here on anyone who can't construct an ALU(or at least a fp-div unit) from dominoes is to be considered completely retarded.
I don't know about the germs... but the finns have been eating steel and shitting chain for quite some time now.
Judges demanding that the defence can scrutinize the evidence... HOW SHOCKING!
If the state does not have a requirement of disclosure then by what basis do the judges operate?
Because the defence still has a FUCKING RIGHT TO SCRUTINIZE THE EVIDENCE!!!!!!!!
I'd much prefer Natalie Portman...
It won't have a hyperthreading registry flaw... it will have a hyperthreading reginstry flaw however.
Dammit, stop reminding me of goatse!
Yeah, gay as a fox!
Don't you see that it is your chance to build a roomba elevator? The kind old ladies in wheelchairs use seem like a good template to start from.
Any chance this law bans TCPA too by accident?
You realize of course that 2096A for 8 hours 16768Ah not 262...
And _iron_ in the paint is what makes it possible for us to appreciate the _irony_...
If something like that managed to exhibit specified complexity, we'd have something.
If i gave our solar system as an example of specific complexity without design, someone could simply say it was designed... If i used a human being as dito, someone could claim it was designed... One of those boring-looking rocks with fancy crystals inside? Same thing.
And comparing say evolution to radioactive decay isn't any good, evolution isn't just random, it's random with a filter and a feedback-loop applied to it. As such it can exhibit much greater "specific complexity" without being designed.(Still won't stop anyone from claiming design with impunity from disproof)
"knew in advance wasn't"
How?
Well, let's take the Bohr model as an example. Was it shown to be superflous? No, it was proven to be wrong. Unnecessery but possible is far from impossible.
How does something become proovenly undesigned?
2. By showing how naturalistic evolution does account for all the data without appeal to a designer, making it superfluous as an explanation.
If at worst it gets superflous it is already invalid.
You are still off the mark, hard is not the same as impossible, if for example inheretance was proven wrong, evolution whould fall, what could possibly prove GOD not to exist?
Well that's a lot of text, but the only thing you really said is that neither the authors not the translators were perfect, and then tried to use a few improbabilities out of a another large text as proof of it. You see, a few improbabilities with imperfect authors/translators in a large text is a probability.
Exatly, he Bohr model was subject to disproof, hence a valid scientific theory. A creator(besides me) in not.
And suppose we call them pink elephants instead of electrons? Unless we can show elephantile shape and pink colour we might as well call them green sqirrels. Or and infinite number of other names - all equally retarded.
Supreme being? You'd end up calling the laws of physics that but the difference is that people jump to a bunch of other psychotic conclutions regarding unrelated propertis.
Does it say in the bible that that is the test of truth?
The data on the disk becomes useless. All you need is a device that can tell you if the disk has been read while in route. Such things cost a lot less than $20k.
Ah, you fail to realize that as a GOD i am bimortal.
You'll only ever have even numbers. Just because a set is infinite does not mean it includes all possibilities
It does, in the set of zero and all positive even numbers, zero and positive numbers are _all_ of the possibilities.
"But it *would* have happened eventually, because in infinity, all possible things happen. "
Notice how it does'nt say "everything" happens.
My parents "created" me back in the seventies.