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83,431 Recited Digits of Pi
i_like_spam writes "59-year-old Akira Haraguchi of Japan recently broke the world record for the recited number of digits of Pi. Haraguchi-san recited an amazing 83,431 digits of Pi during a 13-hour overnight stretch. This almost doubles the previous record of 42,195 digits by fellow Japanese Hiroyuki Goto.
Though it is not yet updated to reflect the new record, the Pi-World-Ranking-List has the rules for participation and breaks down the ranking by world, continent, and country. Links to world rankings for memorized digits of E and Sqrt(2) are also given."
Haraguchi-san recited an amazing 83,431 digits of Pi during a 13-hour overnight stretch. This more than doubles the previous record of 42,195 digits by fellow Japanese Hiroyuki Goto.
Um, I'm not a math major, but since when is 83,431 > 84,390, which is double the amount of 42,195? You don't even need a calculator to figure that one out. But as far as the accomplishment goes: That's a simply amazing feat, I applaud Haraguchi greatly, How do you memorize a number that deep, I can barely remember what I had for breakfast.
"Plans are for fools! Oglethorpe, the plutonian (Aqua Teen Hunger Force)
She only recited 10, the other numbers were just dupes.
A 59-year-old Japanese psychiatric counselor set a world record of sorts Sunday by reciting "pi," or the ratio of the circumference of a circle to its diameter, to 83,431 digits.
Good, now she can counsel herself on having more exciting things to do than learning and reciting the digits of a number anyone of us can look up.
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only old people can remember 83,431 digits of pi.
"Is this just useless, or is it expensive as well?"
Truly stuff that matters.
When i think of hobbies, learning a sequence of 83,000 digits sounds like a good time.
I'm sorry but what does this prove? When I need pi 3.1459 is enough for me...
... If he could remember basic maths or even his own name after driving his brain to displace all other knowledge to make room for something so damned unnecessary.
I can barely remember my phone number most of the time :)
--Dave
Wasted brain cells. Whoever can tie up the most brain cells storing useless information wins.
Of course, there's plenty more ways to waste brain cells, some of them right here on this board. (I'm thinking nerd trivia.) Those don't make the news.
Oh well. Memorize on!
See what 60 years of latent radiation coupled with animu can do to a people?
I can recite 83,431 reasons why this chap will never have a woman.
For he today that sheds his blood with me shall be my brother.
For the beginning reciters among us, we at least still have a nice t-shirt with the first 4493 digits of Pi in the shape of the Pi symbol.
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Why does the rank list go down to 50 digits? Surely there are many people in the world who can recite more than 50 digits of pi that aren't listed here, so unless these people are noteworthy for some other reason, their inclusion seems a bit pointless.
quidquid latine dictum sit altum videtur.
The worlds longest list of virgins has been found
It would take hours just to recite all of that. I wonder how many days or months it took to learn it? Unless they are able to memorize on sight, which is a rare talent, just repeating the digits several times could easily take up a few months.
I guess it's a claim to fame, but geesh, isn't there better ways to spend your time, like posting on slashdot or something?
Modern Software Is Wasting Our Time!
The world ranking list has in 45th place a guy who recited only 50 digits! I can do that myself!
How do you know they are reciting, and not actually working it all out as they go along?
15 Krishnamoorthy, Mukkai USA North America 230 19 Oct 2001 while juggling three balls
83,431 digits of Pi during a 13-hour overnight stretch. This more than doubles the previous record of 42,195
42,195 * 2 = 84,390. That's 959 digits short of just doubling.
We do not live in the 21st century. We live in the 20 second century.
Wait..er...the odds of him actually having a girlfriend are 83,431 to 1.
83,431 digits of Pi during a 13-hour overnight stretch. This more than doubles the previous record of 42,195 Err... 42,195 doubled is less than 83,431...?
When I think of people. I think that there are a lot of them. More than 6 billion actually. It would seem that there is enough people that there would be people doing all kinds of things, including memorizing digits of Pi. I'm sure there is also a whole underground group of people who memorize digits of e and are disgruntled because the pi memorizing people get more attention.
http://www.google.com/search?q=pi
Simpy
83,431 digits is about 33.8 kB of data. Read out over 13 hours means the data rate averages under 6 baud -- and I thought 110 baud modem on a teletype was slow.
I don't even want to think about the write speed of this storage device. At least the storage capacity of the device has nearly doubled (from 42,195 digits or 17.1 kB).
Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do.
Not with Pi, but for example with 1/3 and even with 2/3!
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i don't have hard drives. i just keep 30 chinese teenagers in my basement and force them to memorize numbers
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A person has a fixed amount of mental capability. This capability is divided into three categories:
1) Memorization
2) Logical Thinking
3) Wasted watching 'Surivor'.
The more time you spend on #1, the less you have for #2 and #3. The more on #2, the less for #1 and #3. The more on #3, the less for #1 and #2.
Note that Albert Einstein was not considered to have a super high IQ by "world changing genius" standards. But the dude could not even remember his phone number or address. Clearly he robbed #1 to get more #2.
I am not sure what this counselor's total intelligence is. But she sure wasted precious brain cells on something that is irrelevant (3.141592654 gives you the circumference of the earth to within a centimeter given its diameter), and easily looked up.
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Pah. Memorizing the digits of Pi is easy.
Although, the article doesn't say -- do they have to be in the right order?
Ever heard of significant figures? Show me a sensor that can return values with 83,431 digits of precision!
NASA got to the moon with fewer than 12 digits of Pi...
Lawyer: Mr. Nahasapeemapetilon, have you ever forgotten anything?
Apu: No. In fact, I can recite pi to 50,000 places. The last digit is 1.
Homer: Mmmm.... Pi.
You think that's funny? Then please explain to me why, for example, devoting your life to run 100 meters faster than any other human is not considered funny? Is it because the latter pays unbelievably well if you succeed? Laugh all you want but frankly, I don't see much of a difference...
"You mortals are so obtuse." -Q
...though not necesaarily in the correct order.
Doesn't it make you feel good to know that our freedoms are protected by politicans, lawyers and journalists.
I thought I had seen some Pi savant on Letterman, recently, but he wasn't Japanese. It was Daniel Tammet, the world's fourth ranked. An interesting guy, and quite articulate.
and was anyone checking to see if he got it all right? not one mistake over however many hours? and the jury didn't fall asleep for even one minute? hardly....
I remember Pi as 3.14, rounded off. My phone number is something like 834.21, rounded off.
;)
Seriously though, they put letters on the number keypads for a reason. http://www.phonespell.org/
Just make sure you're comfortable with what your number spells before you give out this "trick" to your friends for easy remembering. I'm sure people with the number 257-8xxx would not be enthusiastic to tell people to "Just Dial 'Al Queda!'"
Yes, that's a real number in many area codes (I blanked it out, which won't stop the ingenius here from looking up what it really is, and Googling who actually is stuck with that horrible number). I feel worse for them than people who get prank calls to Jenny at 867-5309. Just don't call these people up asking for "Ben". I'd feel bad if months from now I made that prank call and one of you spoiled it for me.
I8-D
Could somebody tell me what Big E is? I've never heard of it. Now little e.. that's a different story
It's a good thing we have people to do this so computers don't have to.
mmmmm! pi!
http://www.weebl.jolt.co.uk/pie.htm
Coolness.. for some reason, during high school, I memorized the first 30 digits of Pi. Perhaps I should start up again...
This is the math section? I love it.
you expect someone who 'likes spam' to know how to count?
it's like expecting anonymous cowards to know how to spel.
I can memoize the first 1,000,000 digits of pi easily.
~D
There's never been evidence of someone learning so much that they couldn't learn any more. No double majors in physics and medicine who eventually become doctors wake up one morning at thirty to discover, mon dieu! It's impossible to remember anything new!
Certainly memories degrade, but that decay seems to be entirely linked to age.
Indeed, it seems like people who memorize more start to learn *faster,* because they have information they can relate other information to. If you know an 80,000 digit number sequence, all sorts of sequences are going to be immediately familiar. "That's a lot like 592307816," you say of someone's last name. Why does the last name remind you of that sequence? It's hard to say, but it does, and that helps you remember the name.
In this way it works like many compression schemes. Storing a small amount of data gets a worse compression ratio than a large amount, because in the larger amount there's more duplication that can be referenced.
If there's anything "wasted" here, it's time, not brain cells. Brain cells seem to be infinitely capable of learning, but we know that a lifetime is viciously finite. Many digits of pi may improve your memorization skills to a certain extent, but clearly memorizing eighty thousand words is likely to help you more because words are more associable. Memorizing Shakespeare's plays provides a thousand apt quotes and analogies for all occasions, instead of just improving sequencing ability.
That said, it's not like there aren't worse wastes of time that don't improve you at all.
To do my backups!
1 0010111 10100111010101011101011010101110101010111001010010 10101010111010101010101001010010001011010100101001 01010101010101010101010101010110111001110100101010 01010101010001010101010101010101101010001010110101 00011001011011101100001110101010101010101000011101 0101012..."
"OK, just remember this:
100101101100010100101010100011100101010010
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I recited 1,000,000 digits, except the guy who was keeping count fell asleep!
All she did was use a simple pneumonic device, I use em all the time to remember stuff.
The last digits, according to the pi searcher, are 315921943469. Now you too can recite them -- just make up a lot of numbers in the middle and hope the judges get bored!
Prof. Frink - "Pi is exactly three!"
It seems like all that data would help decode how things are stored and recalled in the brain. 83 thousand numbers is orders of magnitude longer than that would be held by the average brain. Would someone's brain who stores a long string of patternless numbers exhibit a different structure? Would the amount of blood flow during recital be significantly different than someone recalling a 7 digit phone number?
See quote below:
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"Conceive a sphere constructed with the earth at it center, and imagine it surface to pass through Sirius, which is 8.8 light years distant from the earth... Then imagine this enormous sphere to be so packed with microbes that in every cubic millimeter millions and millions of these diminutive animalcula are present. Now conceive these microbes to be unpacked and so distributed singly along a straight line that every two microbes are as far distant from each other as Sirius is from us... Conceive the long line thus fixed by all the microbes at the diameter of a circle, and imagine its circumference to be calculated by multiplying it diameter by Pi to 100 decimal places. Then, in the case of a circle of this enormous magnatude even, the circumference so calculated would not vary from the real circumference by a millionth part of a millimeter.
This example will suffice to show that the calculation of Pi to 100 or 500 decimal places is wholly useless."
- Hermann Schubart, A mathematics professor from Hamburg, Germany in 1889
Source:
http://www.asofyet.org/muppet/humor/uselesspi.htm
PI is te ratio of the circumference to the diameter of a circle is it not?
the Pi-World-Ranking-List has the rules for participation and breaks down the ranking by world, continent, and country I'm just proud that, once again, an earthling holds the #1 spot. Good thing they let your search by world. Also, the martians are really slacking.
> ...breaks down the ranking by world, continent,
> and country.
So where is the list of worlds and which is #1? Surely not Earth!
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I'm a Japanese. Once in my junior high days (7th grade for you 'mericans), I got so bored with the math class that I decided to memorize Pi on the textbook. It had something like 47 digits. It took no time and during that 45 minutes session, I memorized it. I still seem to remember it.
:). Coming up with a mnemonic is kinda part of culture. The way I used to memorize pi was to cut it at every four digits and try to associate some kind of logic with each chunk. For example, 3.14 1592 6535 8979 3238 4626 each of four digit groups seems to have some kind of pattern, except the first one, no?
Curiously, the Pi World Ranking List had meny Japanese and Indian names. This is sort of understandable. Both cultures used to emphasize on memorizing texts for a long long time. Up until my grandfather's generation, being educated meant being able to recite the whole Confucius, and some other assorted Chinese classics. In my schooldays, too, we were forced to memorize bunch of stuff that turned out to be useless (pi was not one of them though
In India, too, traditional education for Brahmins started as memorizing the Veda transmitted to their family. There still are some people who can recite a whole Veda. Those people tended to memorize other stuff as well.
Probably for the Japanese and Indians, memorizing some long strings that don't make sense is not that a strange thing.
By the way, I am a Sanskritist, not a mathematician.
that this would be impossible without using some sort of memorization scheme. One that comes to mind would be memorizing groups of digits and labeling each group in your head. Get the groups down pat. Then start grouping the groups. So if each group had 50 digits, the next group might be a collection of 50 groups (or 2500 digits). Not that this technique would make this ANY less amazing!
I can recite any random number of over 100,000 digits easily.
I guess linking to another OSDL site means big karma.
How ... pointless!
Karma: Positive (probably because of superiour intellect)
It's not interesting... it's bunk.
Devoting your life to running gives you incredible health benefits.
Devoting your life to memorizing a number gives you... a number.
Memorize the sentence "how I want a drink, alcoholic of course, after the heavy chapters involving quantum mechanics". The digits of PI are the number of letters in each word. Of course, this may not help too much if you are into "Slashdot spelling"...
Pi memorizes YOU!
As a Japanese scholar, I don't get why people are obsessed with adding "-san" to peoples' names. It's not English, people! You want English, use Mr. or Mrs. or Ms. or whatever!
It would be like someone talking about a German, in English, and calling them Herr [whatever]. It just doesn't make sense.
why aren't these guys using their brain for something important. my computer can calculate pi forever and much faster.
s/3579/358979/
Anyone have an MP3 of the event?
My best feat was memorizing:
UDUDLRLRBA Select Start
And it actually had a practical application.
Man, this guy must have some pretty good passwords! Just don't use PI of course...
I mean, two #'s... i mean...
I will gladly loose all of life's battles.. in order to win the war..
The easy way to memorize a long number is to convert the digits into musical notes, its easier to memorize a song then a list of numbers. so 0 would be a C and 1 would be a D , ect. ect.
How would 83431 digits (83431 characters) be 33,8 kilobytes?
The mathematician says: It's the ratio of the circumference of a circle to its diameter.
The scientist says: 3.1415926535....bla bla bla
The engineer says: about 3!
A site full of overpriced junk for tools to spend their hard earned bling on. Save your money. With the way the US economy is going, you'll need that money more than you need nerf weapons or birth-control t-shirts with Pi on them.
You failed to mention this is also the most stupid contest ever.
Because running fast is actually useful for a variety of tasks:
1) Track/field
2) Football
3) Baseball
4) Hunting
Its a mechanism to train your body;
Its a means of competing (which is reason enough to do it)
After all, even the Japanese understand that you have to fully develop the mind, body and spirit.
Memorizing PI is the equivalent of 10 year old boys who memorize all the names of the dinosaurs. Its a mechanism to set yourself apart. But its not in the least useful for anything.
Might as well practice eating hotdogs.
This is much shorter to memorize, and is easily used to produce as many digits of Pi as needed in minutes with any automatic execution language supporting large integers. Somewhat more time is required when arbitrary precision integers are not already available via library or builtin. This actually came up when implementing Blowfish required 4096 hex digits of pi.
Now, I sure that there are plenty of Math Geeks reading this who can suggest smaller/more time efficient/more memory efficient/otherwise superior pi algorithms to memorize.
That's more than 10KB of data, or roughly 63% of the memory Windows' "System Idle Process" uses.
Great idea, memorize two three digit numbers that can give you 6 places of pi. Now all you need is a calculator to divide them ;)
This is almost as useful as a bowl full of toenails.
Oh well, what the hell...
Please see: http://3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716 9399375105820974944592.com/
Computer Science is no more about computers than astronomy is about telescopes. --E. W. Dijkstra
This almost doubles the previous record of 42,195 digits by fellow Japanese Hiroyuki Goto.
Just goes to show you, use goto and you will do poorly!
From Mathworld at Wolfram Apparently Pi shows up in the bible twice. Weird.
Also, wikipedia has a rather complete coverage of the topic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi
3.148...
bugger...
According to theories about digit occurrence,
I too can recite 83,431 digits of Pi:
11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111...
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Anyone need that many digits for a precise calculation? :-)
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I took the time to memorize pi to over 100,000 digits in base PI. When's that competition?
Did you guys know it takes only 30-someodd digits of pi to inscribe a sphere inside the visible universe that would only deviate from uniform circularity by the width of a proton? What a useless bunch of hogwash all this 'digits of pi' thing is.
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Can someone explain to me why this is digit-extraction?
..
After bringing it to a common denominator, I don't see how it is always divisible?
I'd love to mod the AC up, but then I will miss on any replies to my question
I'm still trying to figure out what people mean by 'social skills' here.
Impressive, but not really useful for daily use. I know the first 11 digits, that's more than enough if I have to use a cheap calculator without PI and trigonometric functions.
For common daily calculations, knowing 3.14 or 3.1416 (rounded!) is usually sufficient:
The german car taxes are calculated based on the volume of the engine, calculated with PI = 3.14. This (technically wrong) value is also written into the vehicle registration certificate, with three to five digits. The calculation rule origins to the the time after WW II, when most calculations were done on paper. Using only three digits of PI instead of six, eight, or ten reduced the amount of work and caused only a negligible error (less than 1%).
Tux2000
Denken hilft.
San ten ichi yon ichi go kyuu ni roku go san go hachi kyuu shichi kyuu san ni san hachi yon roku ni roku yon san san hachi san ni shichi kyuu go rei ni hachi hachi yon...
Has anyone even read the rules for submission on that site?
Anyone with a friend whos a laywer or scientist could easily fake a new record. The pi organization doesnt even have to witness it themselves
I can do the first 116 from memory. (I would reproduce them here but it's indistinguishable from cheating!) Learned them when I was about 12 and they're stuck in my head, like your first phone number. Anyone else here pointlessly filled their head in this way? What's the /. record?
pi = 2*|arg(God)|
Why would you pick such a crappy number to stop on. C'mon, you can make it to 100,000!
* spend childhood memorizing #s
...
* spend 13 hours saying the same 10 words over and over
*** profit!!
aoeu
How about fifty digits?
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The roots of education are bitter, but the fruit is sweet.
--Aristotle
I memorized the first 50 digits in grade 7, and never forgot them (I refresh the memory every few months.) It's all in how you break up the digitis.
I don't use a hard 4 digit rule: instead I break them logically. In university I would teach people how to recite pi by using my method (invariably after drinking) and it would usually take between 15 and 30 minutes before they had it. I've probably taught 15-20 people.
So here it is: How to learn 50 digits of pi easily.
After the first 50 digits, the nice patterns end. Still, one guy came back to me a week later, and had memorized 80 digits. So I learned 100. Then he learned 125, and I learned 150. When the escalating pi-war reached 300 digits, we had a "tag-team" pi-off in the drunken engineering talent show.Personally, I reached a maximum of 380 digits, but that was 15 years ago. Right now I can only do 120 (but I can recite them in about 20 seconds.)
yo.
Print, clip, and save:
3.
1415 92 6535 8979
3238 4 6264 3383
279 50 2884 1971
6939 9 37 510
yo.
It's porno?
FRA: STFU GTFO
finish the fucking story, man.
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Why would I need to memorise Pi when I can easily calculate it on the fly?
Sounds like a con to me.
Its is merely 22/7 after all. Lets see;
22/7 is 3 remainder 1.
1/7 doesn't go, so add a zero.
Make a point.
10 / 7 is 1r3. So we have 3.1
3/7 doesn't go so add a zero.
30 / 7 is 4r2. So we have 3.14.
Does anybody see a pattern emerging here?
To go to any number of significant digits I use LONG DIVISION.
However I could be making a basic mistake here, maybe to testing regime is more sophisticated that starting from the beginning.
Actually it's a typo. The reporter meant to type: 83 instead of 83,431. (If you don't understand read the Slashdot article about the $251 million typo)
Some of us are programmers and we're in shape, too.
I suspect you're not even a good programmer.
This really depends on what you are trying to accomplish.
For example, some race car engines are much more precise than your regular car engine. From that they gain massive horsepower (eg. a tiny 1.5 liter engine pushing 800HP). This is because the tolerances are much smaller.
Technology advances almost in sync with the precision with which we can build stuff. To say Pi is useless at 100, 500 or even a million digits is extremely short sighted.
Who modded this funny?
I'm appalled.
It's obviously either Informative or Insightful.
Just think, here are all of these sports figures getting millions of dollars to catch and throw a ball around, and here is this guy who just gets his name in some book for reciting 80,000+ numbers in a row. If only reciting pi were a spectator sport or a national pastime....
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Pi is acheived via a mathmatical calculation... wouldn't it be easier on the cerebrum (or, perhaps, the cerebellum) to carry out the calculations in your head and spew the results as you acheive them, rather than memorizing 80,000 digits? In fact, would it be a stretch to suggest that the highest-rankers are doing this instead of memorizing?
If I knew the wedgies I gave you back in 6th grade would have resulted in this . . . I might have taken a moments pause.
If I can recite them in Hexadecimal, I could easily do more than that, though it might take me a while to calculate each one in my head using Bailey's algorithm.
I thought that being able to recite 50 decimal places of pi was dorky enough... I mean, come on, what sort of calculation could you do that you would need that precision?
Anyways, the more power to her.
--- At my sig, unleash hell.
It's OK, I'm sure the editors will spot the mistake and edit it before the story hits the front page.
Oh wait...
I'll probably be modded down for this...
Pi may be useful to those people actually designing the next widget or thing-a-ma-bob...but being able to recite it to 80k + digits ? Maybe I'm lazy but the old "22 / 7" OR "3.14" works fine with me.
Ranting for ranting's sake is a waste of time. But staying silent forever is a crime.
Kaneda!
Now my life seems a LOT more exciting...
-- Should there be smoke coming out of my CPU?
Hah, the Japanese are so far behind. Computer Science people already knew that goto was obsolete!
If you can't say something nice, make sure you have something heavy to throw.
It's available at WhipCrackWorkFaster.com.
I mean, at some point, it'll sound like hog auctioning... so presumably record seekers will be able to type out pi to the zillionth digit.
Just because you watch anime doesn't mean you know Japanese. No, "fansubs" still don't count.
You're writing in English. There's no "-san" honorific in English, so don't use it. Titles don't go with the nationality of the person you're talking about. It never has. It never will. In fact, no language exists that does that.
Using things like "-san" in English makes you appear at best, a loser fanboy (aka "otaku wa baka"), and at worst patronizing (aka "gaijin wa baka").
This confirms it.
In my primary school(5-10 yrs), in those class maths competitions, our team would fear the team who ended up with asian kid in.
"Oh, they'll get all the questions with fractions in"
As youngsters I think we had an uncanny sense of prophecy.
In post Patriot Act America, the library books scan you.
Well, YOUR "oops" is not so "astronomical"...
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Check out the poster's article's description:
"Though it is not yet updated to reflect the new record, the Pi-World-Ranking-List has the rules for participation and breaks down the ranking by world, continent, and country."
Get the "... breaks down the ranking by world, continent, and country."
Is that comma between world and country inserted by mistake?
I didn't know hyoo-mohns were competing with other non-indigenous, off-world sentient beings. (LOL!)
But, if you want to see a big "OOPS" of ground-breaking/earth-shattering proportions, see the
"A $251 Million Typo"
http://it.slashdot.org/it/05/07/02/0852234.shtml?
Now, therein lies on helluva big "OOPS!"...
And, while I'm on observations and lame jokes, here's something that crossed my mind:
We've seen people pied in the face in games as well as famous "pie-bill" attacks.
But, I guess these pi- masters are doing the reverse: spitting "Pi" OUT of their face instead of taking it in. I wonder if their concentration would be broken if someone pied them as fast as they were dishing out their own "Pi"
OK....
Previously: "Linux... Toward the Sunrise..." Now: "Linux... Toward the-- No, now, part of Every Sunrise"
I memorized Pi to 50 digits in 8th grade because I wanted it in a program on a computer that had limited memory and kept losing it, so I had to keep re-typing it in. (This was a 4K PDP/8e in 1969 with nothing but paper tape as permanent storage.)
;-)
Haven't been able to forget it, despite years of trying.
The antidote for misuse of freedom of speech is more freedom of speech.
-- Molly Ivins
Maybe he had a gas-panic (heheh, think: Club Gaspanic...) attack and took two Bufferens but didn't call his doctor that morning.
So, his (gray-matter) buffer output was quartered and the inverse of the two Bufferens he took...
Still, I could never store and output that much information about something such as Pi.
I wonder if he has some degree of "Aspergers Disease/Syndrome". I read somewhere that programmers (and I presume others with analytical talent/mental storage capacity, who happen to be predisposed to excessive honesty, and are a threat to software companies (especially to those such as msoft), which cannot easily be trusted to be honest) have this condition. I wonder if some gene lab will find a way to "inject" Aspergers into select people to breed so-called or potentially smarter people.
As for the baud rate, when I was a kid, we used to be in a hurry to get to watch Ultraman, and so during Easter/Lent and other certain occasions of the year when praying the Rosary was required, I and I think my brother (and we got our sister in on the act, too) contrived a way to keep the Rosary from interfering with our Sunday morning and week-day afterschool show-watching (Lost in Space, Guldar, Ultraman):
PRAY FASTER! After all, having to pray one, two or three Rosaries for post-confession penance got to be sleep-inducing, and was interfering with TV time. So, we schemed that since God knows what we WILL do, and out to know what we THINK or WILL think, then despite our bit of "cheating", it out to be acceptable to God to pray at a faster ("Baud") rate. So, the typical "Our Father, who art in Heaven" eventually got truncated to "R F-ther Hwart Hvn..." and so on.
We managed to truncate the Rosary via LAZY compression, reducing the time praying it down to about 4-8 minutes instead of the 12-15. (Yep, we broke out the Timex and Casio watches and timed our praying by stopwatch...) We got crazy/bold enough to consider it probably acceptable if we just "THINK" the Rosary, and just be "done with it", heheh...
Years later, when I had to take naval teletype courses (high and low level--a major pain in my ass since being the only TTY repairman aboard my ship cost me a lot of sleep, while the CG's had more TT-628's somethings and those then-new PCs with windoze (this was mid-to-late 1988)), I realized (after hearing all those audio ticks and chirps from the converters and transmitters) that if I could probably pray to God at a million Baud...
Just some rambling/mutually-colliding thoughts...
Previously: "Linux... Toward the Sunrise..." Now: "Linux... Toward the-- No, now, part of Every Sunrise"
How do you memorize a number that deep
You only have to remember about 40 numbers and then they start repeating.
That's one long Goto statement.
What does this button do...
The amazing thing about the human brain is its ability to parallel process. Although the recitation of digits was only at 6 baud, you're forgetting the massive amount of processing for the individual to:.........
Except for the last item, the blue jays outside my office can do all of them too. A bird may not be able to recite digits of pi, but some of them are able to remember thousands of food cache locations. In fact, they may even be able to do some of the last item based on some psych experiments on these birds that suggest they are capable of inferring the likely thoughts and future actions of other blue jays.
Yes, brains are amazing things but a creature really does need that much brain power to do most life activities.
Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do.
You will all burn in hell for this! Pi is equal to 3. It's in the Bible. Really, Kings something or other. You can google for it.
(Funny how the fundies never mention this)
What's the Heisenburg cofactor for PI anyhow? (joke)
Good for getting a girl from 'maybe' to 'no' (to 'hell no') in minimum time.
John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
That is 34,644 bytes of data.
He could copy a MIDI file to his head. What is the RIAA going to do about it?
Seriously though. The limits of human memory should be the lower bound for copyright violations.
Just yesterday, I challenged a co-worker to see who could recite the most digits of pi. I wasted him... he only knew 40 or so, to my 80.
Well, looks like I've got my work cut out to me... to the tune of three orders of magnitude.
a long-standing project of mine, a new value of pi to assign I'd fix it at three cos its easier you see than three point one four one five nine
You will all burn in hell for this! Pi is equal to 3. It's in the Bible. Really, Kings something or other.
It's in Numbers something or other, not Kings.
-kgj
-kgj
Part of the competition is that the individual has to be able to give any particular number, say the 753rd without listing through them. Again the poem analogy is good. Just as you remember a poem in stanzas, so are the number sets remembered in sets. A very good read on this topic is UUse your memory" by Tony Buzan, and its sequel "Master your memory. These books go into the specific systems one uses to memorise alrge numbers, as well as smaller numbers like phone numbers and dates.
http://3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716 9399375105820974944592.com/
Insert Pithy Quote here.
hi i'm your random test.
Now I even I
would celebrate
in rhymes unapt
the great immortal Haraguchi
rivaled nevermore
who in his wondrous lore
passed on before
gave men his guidance
how to circles mensurate.
(of course the original in line 4 should read "Syracusan", but let's celebrate Haraguchi today)
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- aqk
F U
It's probably an old one, but....
A couple of (insert ethnicity here) guys were sitting around the table drinking beer, when one guy's son came in to the room-
father: "Hey my son is REAL SMART. He's learnin' a LOT in school! Say somethin' for the man, son!"
Son: " Uhh, OK, Dad. Pi r squared"
The father hauls off, and whacks the kid on the side of the head, knocking him down.
Son: "Whaaaaa...! Watcha do that for, Dad?"
Father: "You dumb li'l s--t! Don'tcha know
CAKE are squared? Pie are ROUND!"
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- aqk
F U
Asparagus? Yes. I once had cream of aspargeres soup for breakfast. A few friends laughed, but I still was able to wow them with 50+ digits of pi. Well... actually they were not "wowed". But they WERE impressed with the Campbell's Cream of Asperges eaten for breakfast. Asperges.. I have lots of them in the back of of my garden. Your p--s stinks when you eat them. It smells like dirtye dishwater. You Americans are savages.
UDUDLRLRBA
It is "UUDD" (not "UDUD").
The Konami Code.
-Serp
Volume of the sphere is 4/3*PI*r^3, or 2.854*10^36 m^3. In cubic mms, 2.854*10^45 mm^3. For there to be millions in one cube, there is 2.854*10^51 microbes.
2.854*10^51 microbes * 8.8*10^11 m/microbe = 2.5 * 10^62 m.
You don't need to do more math to know that he is correct in his first statement. However, all you have to do is pick a more distant body, such as the andromeda galaxy. At that point, the variation is approximatly 1 am (attometer, 10^-18) - while still small and negligable, it is within the scale of standard measurement prefixes.
Just because it seems useless at first doesn't mean it is useless for all time.