Just enable (as it's usually disabled for things like SSH) Nagle's algorhitm, and it should destroy most of the timing information.
You'd be correct except that nagle doesn't really come into play these days except in unusal congestion situations or very long distance communication.
It used to be really important when you'd have busy servers that can barely keep csh responsive, or a hundred users sharing a 56K frame relay line. Nowadays the echo/ack comes back on each keystroke.
If you don't want to send the EFF money but would like to help the cause, consider just spreading the word a bit about what they're doing. I was shocked when I mentioned the AT&T case to a number of people whom I thought were pretty well informed on the tech industry (even if not privacy/post-911 issues) and was surprised how few have even heard of it. This is a $50 billion dollar suit! That billions with a "B"!
AT&T needs to feel some serious pain if they're found liable. This is way worse than the usual price gouging, deceptive billing, and anti-competitive behavior that people expect from the telcos. If they illegally dumped records to the NSA then I sure hope we see the execs on both sides serving some PMITA time on top of the 50 bil.
First, so what even if I am an uninformed public shareholder? Does that suddenly mean I really don't need to know, should not be informed of, or have a way to find out the internal workings of how the compnay I own a piece of is operated?
I didn't mean uninformed with respect to the specific workings of a given company. I meant uninformed on what Sarbox is and what it costs to implement.
The reality is that your interests as a shareholder are almost certainly _undermined_ by sarbox because businesses have to pay more to implement and maintain the procedures, which costs you as a shareholder not just directly on today's bottom line, but also in distracting the business from it's core competency. Sarbox compliance isn't just hiring a couple more lawyers and bean counters - there are procedural requirements that ripple down through every level of the organization in order to produce the additional reporting.
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what Other Reasons could there be to not increase corporate financial accountability?
The down-side to Sarbox is that it massively increases accouting burden and raises the bar in terms of funds and overhead required for any small company to go public. This both reduces the benefits of going public and limits the IPO opportunity to larger, better funded corporations, at the expense of many more interesting younger companies. It puts the opportunity further out of reach of smaller entreprenuers.
Most venture investors and entreprenuers feel that Sarbox goes too far. You seem to be speaking strictly from the perspective of a (rather uninformed) public shareholder, and frankly you seem to lack the necessary insight into the costs of Sarbox compliance to form a balanced viewpoint. Increasing penalties for (and actually enforcing) SEC rules would have gone a long way without having to add new requirements.
Apple said it hoped the market would be left to decide 'which music players and online music stores are offered to consumers.
Apple,
In what way are you enabling the market to decide, when you leverage your monopoly position coupled with the DMCA (and similar laws overseas) to lock out competitors?
Why should the "upstream" or "bigger" distro supplier be obligated to distribute source code for YOUR particular distribution? Of course _somebody_ needs to be responsible for making the source available, otherwise the entire spirit of the GPL is unenforceable...
It makes sense to me that the person distributing the binaries should be responsible for making source code available for said binaries. That is how the license is written, and it is very straight forward. No surprise here - so what is the complaint?
Do we really want everyone and their brother shipping their own MyFirstDistro as binary only, just because the sources are individually (hopefully, for the time being) available elsewhere? Is it fair to put that burden on someone else?
Sure, they're efficient, and the product is relatively cheap, but do we want to support the ways these companies treat their workers, even if it's "okay" with the workers?
ECS uses the "Grape System" to remind their employees not to slack off. For each day, there is a grape. Green means they had a perfect day, with no problems with work or otherwise. If an employee slacks off or shows up late for work, they get a red grape.
Unfortunately the dumber you are the more kids you have, all the dumb people I know have multiple kids, all the smart successful ones have none.
One need look no further than the inverse correlation between slashdot karma and getting laid, but still you should read the The Bell Curve, and some of the associated commentary. The book was extremely controversial: although the author was generally dismissed as a racist, there were some clear correlations studied between IQ and offspring, with obvious implications for evolution in the long term. Not really addressed, but especially relevant to the adult maturity question, are the implications of the birth control pill, which has practically separated sex and procreation... people in the first world have the means now, if they choose, to have "real" sex while postponing practically all personal responsibilities indefinitely.
If it was reversed then civilization would have been much further ahead by now.
Define "further ahead". It's certainly interesting, but I don't know that we're worse off in terms of "advnacement". I you think of "civilization" as the antithesis of "animal nature", then surely it's advancing! Specifically, if you believe there is an inverse relationship between IQ and breeding, then this seems to predict a shrinking (hence more concentrated in power) intellectual elite. I don't know whom to blame except "the advancement civilization" for driving us to such behavior.
I like how you started out with an assumption then expect other people to verify that assumption for you.
Quoi? I clearly challenged anyone to show the contrary...
Perhaps the first statement is not related to the second in the way you think. One refutes their ostensible intent, and the other is my assertion of their actual intent.
Ah the hell with it, I'm all geeked out for today - you win.
God forbid that Microsoft should encourage anyone to use their own product or anything.
God forbid, indeed. The fact that they're suggesting it does not mean that authors, for the benefit of their readers should buy into it. I see absolutely no benefit to anyone except Microsoft, which is entirely my point, and which you (obliquely) seem to acknowledge.
I refer yout o your sibling post: "the irony of using proprietary formats for such documents, cannot have escaped the Microsoft Humor Department"
I can't see how anyone could construe this as an endorsement by Microsoft of unconventional copyright terms.
Can anyone explain how this is NOT a thinly-veiled a ruse to encourage use of Microsoft's proprietary file formats for potentially important, widely distributed documents?
This will be a huge boon for semi-custom embedded apps.
Many embedded processors have some typical complement of flash memory and SDRAM which is about the same for every app, and which takes up half of more of the CPU's pin count. The chips can't be combined on one die, because the yields and economies of scale would go down, and they're different processes.
But combine the dies in a small package and you get the best of both world. Less packaging material and lower pin count == lower cost, easier to design in, and more reliable (at some expense in flexibility). It's not a new idea but it's great to see it catching on.
This is how legislators keep busy and stay out of trouble. Someone gets burned by an online dating experience, and raises a stink about it in public, and politicians hear that - usually correctly - as a call for someone to Get Out There and Do Something About This.
So let's vote in some libertarians to strike all the useless laws and 99% of the tax code, and put some lawyers out of business while we're at it.
Even before the 20% pop we've seen in the last two years, the valley's house-price-to-income ratio was second only to Hawaii.
That means we have lots of old rich people who aren't going anywhere, and a working class that generally won't have a chance at buying real estate any time soon. Even if the "bubble" burst back to 2002 prices, it won't make housing much more accessible to workers living in the valley, only wealthy immigrants.
Housing was not always expensive here. When Wozniak was developing the Apple I, middle-class homes were routinesly built on 10,000 square foot lots because land was so plentiful, and blue-collar jobs could confortably pay a mortgage.
In that environment, you can imagine how a young man could dedicate two or three years to desigingin something while taking insignificant personal financial risk.
Just another reason why we CAN'T have another "silicon valley" here - living expenses prohibit one from starting a full-time garage business.
I could share a funny personal story about threatening investors to leave the valley so that I could get a cheap house and work from my garage, rather than having to take their money so I could draw a salary. I've thought about this one a bit.:)
...that the "real" Silicon Valley is all but completely dead and gone.
Yes, it takes rich people and nerds. But it takes rich people who know business and are willing to take an honest shot at building a real one, and it takes nerds who are passionate about their work, as opposed to hacks who'll take a job at whatever place is burning the most VC dough. Silicon Valley has vitually NONE of those people left.
The question I've been asking myself is not can there be another silicon valley, but where will it be? Austin Texas has a lot of the right ingredients, and so does Hong Kong and a few isolated movements in Europe.... but Menlo Park? Not a chance. It's all a bunch of powerpoint shows pitching "virtual this" and "outsource that" for as far as the eye can see up Sand Hill Road.
Most would say it's unsolicited commercial junk mail, but he seems to think it means "phony" email. Apparently he doesn't mind receiving weekly airfare specials containing choice bits like "BID FOR TICKETS TO THE BIG GAME IN THE BIG EASY!"
Also re phishing: I'd say paypal is largely at fault for this. They do (did?) send an awful lot of useless mail full of clickable links - they were just begging to get phished because people were so used to receiving authentic but useless clickable mail from them. None of my other banks have done this (although one sends a fair amount of crap not specific to my account - rates and such).
The "technical" frauds today rely on social engineering.
Right, it's still basically social engineering, but the real key (not mentioned in TFA) is that not only are tricks like phishing easy and practically anonymous, but the pool of victims is so much larger. I'll bet a single mass spam yields hundreds of valid accounts. It's then just a matter of logging in to all of them (hell, you can script that too!) and drain the easiest biggest targets.
The problem with that outlook is that for every Bill Gates there are about a finity ditch diggers without a high-school diploma.
Now the fact that many drop-outs go on to "achieve greatness" is very important. We should all remember that a high school diploma is not a magic paper that imbues us with success, but we should also remember that dropping out of high school is not a recipe for greatness, either.
Agreed. What we've lost track of in this thread is that we were originally talking about programming with respect to the NCLB doctrine.
You just sound like you are advocating dropping out of HS. If I misunderstood, please correct me.
I'd advocate dropping out of anything that is holding you back. I was expelled from private school 6th grade, almost expelled from public school in 7th grade, and barely graduated high school. I begged my way into college (the dean of engineering at SDSU pulled some strings for me and got me in even though I was missing fine arts credit), and then dropped out after four weeks.
It wasn't until I finally developed the balls to strike it out on my own that I found success and happiness (admittedly, by my own particular values). Therre was nobody at all to support me in getting out of "the system" as I called it, especially not my family and teachers, and my only regret is that I didn't escape sooner. But to each his own.
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Just enable (as it's usually disabled for things like SSH) Nagle's algorhitm, and it should destroy most of the timing information.
You'd be correct except that nagle doesn't really come into play these days except in unusal congestion situations or very long distance communication.
It used to be really important when you'd have busy servers that can barely keep csh responsive, or a hundred users sharing a 56K frame relay line. Nowadays the echo/ack comes back on each keystroke.
If you don't want to send the EFF money but would like to help the cause, consider just spreading the word a bit about what they're doing. I was shocked when I mentioned the AT&T case to a number of people whom I thought were pretty well informed on the tech industry (even if not privacy/post-911 issues) and was surprised how few have even heard of it. This is a $50 billion dollar suit! That billions with a "B"!
AT&T needs to feel some serious pain if they're found liable. This is way worse than the usual price gouging, deceptive billing, and anti-competitive behavior that people expect from the telcos. If they illegally dumped records to the NSA then I sure hope we see the execs on both sides serving some PMITA time on top of the 50 bil.
First, so what even if I am an uninformed public shareholder? Does that suddenly mean I really don't need to know, should not be informed of, or have a way to find out the internal workings of how the compnay I own a piece of is operated?
I didn't mean uninformed with respect to the specific workings of a given company. I meant uninformed on what Sarbox is and what it costs to implement.
The reality is that your interests as a shareholder are almost certainly _undermined_ by sarbox because businesses have to pay more to implement and maintain the procedures, which costs you as a shareholder not just directly on today's bottom line, but also in distracting the business from it's core competency. Sarbox compliance isn't just hiring a couple more lawyers and bean counters - there are procedural requirements that ripple down through every level of the organization in order to produce the additional reporting.
what Other Reasons could there be to not increase corporate financial accountability?
The down-side to Sarbox is that it massively increases accouting burden and raises the bar in terms of funds and overhead required for any small company to go public. This both reduces the benefits of going public and limits the IPO opportunity to larger, better funded corporations, at the expense of many more interesting younger companies. It puts the opportunity further out of reach of smaller entreprenuers.
Most venture investors and entreprenuers feel that Sarbox goes too far. You seem to be speaking strictly from the perspective of a (rather uninformed) public shareholder, and frankly you seem to lack the necessary insight into the costs of Sarbox compliance to form a balanced viewpoint. Increasing penalties for (and actually enforcing) SEC rules would have gone a long way without having to add new requirements.
Apple said it hoped the market would be left to decide 'which music players and online music stores are offered to consumers.
Apple,
In what way are you enabling the market to decide, when you leverage your monopoly position coupled with the DMCA (and similar laws overseas) to lock out competitors?
Why should the "upstream" or "bigger" distro supplier be obligated to distribute source code for YOUR particular distribution? Of course _somebody_ needs to be responsible for making the source available, otherwise the entire spirit of the GPL is unenforceable...
It makes sense to me that the person distributing the binaries should be responsible for making source code available for said binaries. That is how the license is written, and it is very straight forward. No surprise here - so what is the complaint?
Do we really want everyone and their brother shipping their own MyFirstDistro as binary only, just because the sources are individually (hopefully, for the time being) available elsewhere? Is it fair to put that burden on someone else?
Sure, they're efficient, and the product is relatively cheap, but do we want to support the ways these companies treat their workers, even if it's "okay" with the workers?
Have you considered the alternative?
ECS uses the "Grape System" to remind their employees not to slack off. For each day, there is a grape. Green means they had a perfect day, with no problems with work or otherwise. If an employee slacks off or shows up late for work, they get a red grape.
And I toil for what?!? Not so much as a raisin!
Unfortunately the dumber you are the more kids you have, all the dumb people I know have multiple kids, all the smart successful ones have none.
One need look no further than the inverse correlation between slashdot karma and getting laid, but still you should read the The Bell Curve, and some of the associated commentary. The book was extremely controversial: although the author was generally dismissed as a racist, there were some clear correlations studied between IQ and offspring, with obvious implications for evolution in the long term. Not really addressed, but especially relevant to the adult maturity question, are the implications of the birth control pill, which has practically separated sex and procreation... people in the first world have the means now, if they choose, to have "real" sex while postponing practically all personal responsibilities indefinitely.
If it was reversed then civilization would have been much further ahead by now.
Define "further ahead". It's certainly interesting, but I don't know that we're worse off in terms of "advnacement". I you think of "civilization" as the antithesis of "animal nature", then surely it's advancing! Specifically, if you believe there is an inverse relationship between IQ and breeding, then this seems to predict a shrinking (hence more concentrated in power) intellectual elite. I don't know whom to blame except "the advancement civilization" for driving us to such behavior.
or tape made from DVD (that THAT, analogue hole) but it
I believe that that "that" was not that that you intended.
I like how you started out with an assumption then expect other people to verify that assumption for you.
Quoi? I clearly challenged anyone to show the contrary...
Perhaps the first statement is not related to the second in the way you think. One refutes their ostensible intent, and the other is my assertion of their actual intent.
Ah the hell with it, I'm all geeked out for today - you win.
God forbid, indeed. The fact that they're suggesting it does not mean that authors, for the benefit of their readers should buy into it. I see absolutely no benefit to anyone except Microsoft, which is entirely my point, and which you (obliquely) seem to acknowledge.
I refer yout o your sibling post: "the irony of using proprietary formats for such documents, cannot have escaped the Microsoft Humor Department"
Hardy har... Microsoft has a sense of humor?!?!?
... and it stinketh.
I can't see how anyone could construe this as an endorsement by Microsoft of unconventional copyright terms.
Can anyone explain how this is NOT a thinly-veiled a ruse to encourage use of Microsoft's proprietary file formats for potentially important, widely distributed documents?
This will be a huge boon for semi-custom embedded apps.
Many embedded processors have some typical complement of flash memory and SDRAM which is about the same for every app, and which takes up half of more of the CPU's pin count. The chips can't be combined on one die, because the yields and economies of scale would go down, and they're different processes.
But combine the dies in a small package and you get the best of both world. Less packaging material and lower pin count == lower cost, easier to design in, and more reliable (at some expense in flexibility). It's not a new idea but it's great to see it catching on.
This is how legislators keep busy and stay out of trouble. Someone gets burned by an online dating experience, and raises a stink about it in public, and politicians hear that - usually correctly - as a call for someone to Get Out There and Do Something About This.
So let's vote in some libertarians to strike all the useless laws and 99% of the tax code, and put some lawyers out of business while we're at it.
We can call it "ex-lex".
Grammar tip: "Effect" is a verb. "Affect" is a noun.
uhhh... I think you need to dictionary those words.
clickedy click
Even before the 20% pop we've seen in the last two years, the valley's house-price-to-income ratio was second only to Hawaii.
That means we have lots of old rich people who aren't going anywhere, and a working class that generally won't have a chance at buying real estate any time soon. Even if the "bubble" burst back to 2002 prices, it won't make housing much more accessible to workers living in the valley, only wealthy immigrants.
Actually, you hit on a good point.
:)
Housing was not always expensive here. When Wozniak was developing the Apple I, middle-class homes were routinesly built on 10,000 square foot lots because land was so plentiful, and blue-collar jobs could confortably pay a mortgage.
In that environment, you can imagine how a young man could dedicate two or three years to desigingin something while taking insignificant personal financial risk.
Just another reason why we CAN'T have another "silicon valley" here - living expenses prohibit one from starting a full-time garage business.
I could share a funny personal story about threatening investors to leave the valley so that I could get a cheap house and work from my garage, rather than having to take their money so I could draw a salary. I've thought about this one a bit.
...that the "real" Silicon Valley is all but completely dead and gone.
Yes, it takes rich people and nerds. But it takes rich people who know business and are willing to take an honest shot at building a real one, and it takes nerds who are passionate about their work, as opposed to hacks who'll take a job at whatever place is burning the most VC dough. Silicon Valley has vitually NONE of those people left.
The question I've been asking myself is not can there be another silicon valley, but where will it be? Austin Texas has a lot of the right ingredients, and so does Hong Kong and a few isolated movements in Europe.... but Menlo Park? Not a chance. It's all a bunch of powerpoint shows pitching "virtual this" and "outsource that" for as far as the eye can see up Sand Hill Road.
TFA seems to be using a funny definition of spam.
Most would say it's unsolicited commercial junk mail, but he seems to think it means "phony" email. Apparently he doesn't mind receiving weekly airfare specials containing choice bits like "BID FOR TICKETS TO THE BIG GAME IN THE BIG EASY!"
Also re phishing: I'd say paypal is largely at fault for this. They do (did?) send an awful lot of useless mail full of clickable links - they were just begging to get phished because people were so used to receiving authentic but useless clickable mail from them. None of my other banks have done this (although one sends a fair amount of crap not specific to my account - rates and such).
The "technical" frauds today rely on social engineering.
Right, it's still basically social engineering, but the real key (not mentioned in TFA) is that not only are tricks like phishing easy and practically anonymous, but the pool of victims is so much larger. I'll bet a single mass spam yields hundreds of valid accounts. It's then just a matter of logging in to all of them (hell, you can script that too!) and drain the easiest biggest targets.
Now they all work in corporate america somewhere in Sales and Marketing department.
And politicians?
The problem with that outlook is that for every Bill Gates there are about a finity ditch diggers without a high-school diploma.
Now the fact that many drop-outs go on to "achieve greatness" is very important. We should all remember that a high school diploma is not a magic paper that imbues us with success, but we should also remember that dropping out of high school is not a recipe for greatness, either.
Agreed. What we've lost track of in this thread is that we were originally talking about programming with respect to the NCLB doctrine.
You just sound like you are advocating dropping out of HS. If I misunderstood, please correct me.
I'd advocate dropping out of anything that is holding you back. I was expelled from private school 6th grade, almost expelled from public school in 7th grade, and barely graduated high school. I begged my way into college (the dean of engineering at SDSU pulled some strings for me and got me in even though I was missing fine arts credit), and then dropped out after four weeks.
It wasn't until I finally developed the balls to strike it out on my own that I found success and happiness (admittedly, by my own particular values). Therre was nobody at all to support me in getting out of "the system" as I called it, especially not my family and teachers, and my only regret is that I didn't escape sooner. But to each his own.
Now, if you want to go along clinging to your beliefs about the nature of creativity and success, go ahead.
:)
Thanks, I will.
I doubt I'm going to change your mind with a late-night argument on Slashdot.
Indeed. Good night and thanks for the discussion.