Paying $50+ a month for my internet connection, don't you call me a freeloader. Get off your neighbor's or your mom's wifi, freeloader, and join the rest of us paying customers who are demanding service for our money. 10s of billions of dollars are irrelevant, they are making much more than this.
We need to cap your internet usage and charge you usage fees as well as bandwidth fees because, oh god, it's so hard to make money in the telecommunication business we just can't seem to stop having enough money to buy each other out. By the way, we're going to increase your monthly flat rate bill a good 10% again this year because hey, those "Friends" reruns sure are getting expensive to er, broadcast.
Fantasy. Because the data will have to be stored somewhere, and there will be a doorway (physical or electronic) and a key. And whoever gets to hold the key gets to decide who gets to see what. This is called power, and it is human nature to abuse power. There are some things that are better left unbuilt, and the compendium of absolutely all the dirt on everyone ever is one of them.
Exactly. It's not the fact that you may or may not be watched right now, it's the fact that everything you do and say can and will be used against you in the future whenever it's convenient, politically or otherwise. I keep quoting this, maybe one day people will actually realize what it means: "If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him." --Richelieu
Yes well if we were all willful sheep who never question and always follow the herd, I'm sure some people would like that - it would make their job easy for them. Too bad some of those sheep just keep jumping the fence, huh?
Bills have serial numbers. How hard do you think it is to have ATM's scan serial numbers on the bills they dispense so the machine/bank/gov't knows who they were given to, and have the bank scan in the deposits so they know who is receiving the bills? Not hard at all. I'm not saying it's actually being done - at least for smaller denominations, but implementation is trivial considering how everything is automated nowadays. Oh it wouldn't be a perfect system, there would still be a gap before a bill is put into or taken out of circulation, but this gap may be much less than one would assume.
I would like to complain that OP had to explain his concept to us in words. Why are we still using something as primitive as words - abstract collections of symbols depicting sound (of all things!)- to convey meaning. Surely in the tens of thousands of years or more that humans have had language, someone must have come up with a better way of transmitting information... oh, and fuck beta
There is no such thing as an obsolete defensive system (or weapon, for that matter). A knife or a fist or even a wooden stick at the right time in the right place is worth more than billions of dollars of expensive hardware.
Surely the ability to keep America powered with "cheap" domestic oil is far more important than drinking water, right? I mean it's not like Americans drink tapwater, bathe, or eat vegetables anyway. Also, Beta sucks.
The fact that the government gets billed $15 million every time it's used to test a satellite when the actual testing cost is $130 and a half dozen doughnuts?
"Wasting" time makes absolutely no sense when you consider that in the long run, we are ALL dead. Our parents. Us. Our children. There is NO future except for returning to the dust and ashes that make up our universe, only to eventually be transformed into iron-56 and sucked into the last black hole (or whatever). Therefore all that "production", all those "accomplishments", everything the human race ever was or shall be are mere meaningless fictions.
Where "production" and "efficiency" become important is where the politician, the priest, the capitalist, or any other person who wishes to enslave humanity to his will needs a tool with which to brow beat his peers, to stampede the herd in the desired direction - a direction that is always favorable to him, but not necessarily to the herd. When a man talks to me about how I should live my life and invest my time for the good of "all" he is either blindly repeating something he heard elsewhere, or is very obviously trying to take advantage of me.
The desire to achieve and to produce must arise from within through satisfaction and curiosity, not be enforced with the whip. Telling people they are "wasting time" is the whip.
They could have used the money/time in game for other things
Not really. Let me explain to you a little bit about Technetium moons and the OTEC cartel... seriously any economic player activity is a fraction of the passive wealth attraction created by harvesting Technetium from moons. While moon mining does not in itself create cash because the material must be sold, said material is in such great demand because of its role in advanced production there is always a market for it at any price. OTEC members could cease all "other things" and still finance all their activities from this passive mining. So the money/time argument isn't really valid in this case, whether the players log in or not they're rich enough to squish any upstart. The "other things" those players do with their time they do strictly for fun.
n this case the $200,000 worth of virtual ships weren't destroyed in hope if improving the in-game economy
Exactly, they are destroyed in the hope of one side improving their economic efficiency by exerting a larger military influence/dominance in a region (if only by locking down a staging system and all the military hardware stuck in it) and another side preventing them from doing it. Of course when the ball starts rolling no one knows with certainty where it's going to stop. CFC came out on top this time for whatever reason, so they gain $200k worth of influence in the area. How this will affect the broader EVE economy is anyone's guess. Either way, grrr goons...lol
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So you agree with all the directives pushed forwards by Heinrich Himmler then? I mean, he's a dead man, don't bash his works. Asshole.
Bistromathics > Improbability, but you won't get it if all you did was see the shitty movie.
Paying $50+ a month for my internet connection, don't you call me a freeloader. Get off your neighbor's or your mom's wifi, freeloader, and join the rest of us paying customers who are demanding service for our money. 10s of billions of dollars are irrelevant, they are making much more than this.
Only if you're polluting more than your fair share, comrade.
What does this mean for Star Citizen funders? lol
Americans
We need to cap your internet usage and charge you usage fees as well as bandwidth fees because, oh god, it's so hard to make money in the telecommunication business we just can't seem to stop having enough money to buy each other out. By the way, we're going to increase your monthly flat rate bill a good 10% again this year because hey, those "Friends" reruns sure are getting expensive to er, broadcast.
"dumb" bugs are usually the easiest ones to catch and fix anyway.
Fantasy. Because the data will have to be stored somewhere, and there will be a doorway (physical or electronic) and a key. And whoever gets to hold the key gets to decide who gets to see what. This is called power, and it is human nature to abuse power. There are some things that are better left unbuilt, and the compendium of absolutely all the dirt on everyone ever is one of them.
Not rented - licensed.
Exactly. It's not the fact that you may or may not be watched right now, it's the fact that everything you do and say can and will be used against you in the future whenever it's convenient, politically or otherwise. I keep quoting this, maybe one day people will actually realize what it means: "If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him." --Richelieu
Yes well if we were all willful sheep who never question and always follow the herd, I'm sure some people would like that - it would make their job easy for them. Too bad some of those sheep just keep jumping the fence, huh?
Bills have serial numbers. How hard do you think it is to have ATM's scan serial numbers on the bills they dispense so the machine/bank/gov't knows who they were given to, and have the bank scan in the deposits so they know who is receiving the bills? Not hard at all. I'm not saying it's actually being done - at least for smaller denominations, but implementation is trivial considering how everything is automated nowadays. Oh it wouldn't be a perfect system, there would still be a gap before a bill is put into or taken out of circulation, but this gap may be much less than one would assume.
No it's government that will be crushed. It's just a matter of time. It always is. And then the game starts again.
I would like to complain that OP had to explain his concept to us in words. Why are we still using something as primitive as words - abstract collections of symbols depicting sound (of all things!)- to convey meaning. Surely in the tens of thousands of years or more that humans have had language, someone must have come up with a better way of transmitting information... oh, and fuck beta
There is no such thing as an obsolete defensive system (or weapon, for that matter). A knife or a fist or even a wooden stick at the right time in the right place is worth more than billions of dollars of expensive hardware.
Like a football thrown...
Don't you get it? Even now don't you get it?
Surely the ability to keep America powered with "cheap" domestic oil is far more important than drinking water, right? I mean it's not like Americans drink tapwater, bathe, or eat vegetables anyway. Also, Beta sucks.
The fact that the government gets billed $15 million every time it's used to test a satellite when the actual testing cost is $130 and a half dozen doughnuts?
Not being able to hear a damn thing in a high risk environment is, uh deadly.
WHAT?
Yeah suddenly everyone is taking Crestor because Atorvastatin apparently is no longer good enough once the patent expires.
I'd like to nominate myself as much more random than some of the recent nominees.
"Wasting" time makes absolutely no sense when you consider that in the long run, we are ALL dead. Our parents. Us. Our children. There is NO future except for returning to the dust and ashes that make up our universe, only to eventually be transformed into iron-56 and sucked into the last black hole (or whatever). Therefore all that "production", all those "accomplishments", everything the human race ever was or shall be are mere meaningless fictions.
Where "production" and "efficiency" become important is where the politician, the priest, the capitalist, or any other person who wishes to enslave humanity to his will needs a tool with which to brow beat his peers, to stampede the herd in the desired direction - a direction that is always favorable to him, but not necessarily to the herd. When a man talks to me about how I should live my life and invest my time for the good of "all" he is either blindly repeating something he heard elsewhere, or is very obviously trying to take advantage of me.
The desire to achieve and to produce must arise from within through satisfaction and curiosity, not be enforced with the whip. Telling people they are "wasting time" is the whip.
They could have used the money/time in game for other things
Not really. Let me explain to you a little bit about Technetium moons and the OTEC cartel... seriously any economic player activity is a fraction of the passive wealth attraction created by harvesting Technetium from moons. While moon mining does not in itself create cash because the material must be sold, said material is in such great demand because of its role in advanced production there is always a market for it at any price. OTEC members could cease all "other things" and still finance all their activities from this passive mining. So the money/time argument isn't really valid in this case, whether the players log in or not they're rich enough to squish any upstart. The "other things" those players do with their time they do strictly for fun.
n this case the $200,000 worth of virtual ships weren't destroyed in hope if improving the in-game economy
Exactly, they are destroyed in the hope of one side improving their economic efficiency by exerting a larger military influence/dominance in a region (if only by locking down a staging system and all the military hardware stuck in it) and another side preventing them from doing it. Of course when the ball starts rolling no one knows with certainty where it's going to stop. CFC came out on top this time for whatever reason, so they gain $200k worth of influence in the area. How this will affect the broader EVE economy is anyone's guess. Either way, grrr goons...lol