As much as I like the place, it can swing toward political correctness as a philosophical evil. Minnesota pioneered the idea of keeping sex offenders in custody indefinitely as criminally insane sociopaths AFTER they fulfilled their sentence. A teeny tad problematic constitutionally. After a couple decades of this, just this month they finally passed a law calling for life without parole for some sex offenses -- which at least addresses the legal issue.
Minnesota has also toyed with all the pornography definitions from "know it when I see it" to "anything whatsoever that incites the perverse". So the encryption issue is obviously just another Minnesota sex thing where encryption had the misfortune of being present at the scene of the crime.
On the other hand, a judge tossed out a case last year explaining to all involved that it wasn't the defendent's responsibility to prove that the girls in the photos were over 18. It was the prosecution's responsibility to prove that they _weren't_. .
A few years ago (we're talking free StarOffice) people used to send me the mangled email.doc attachments they received. I must have opened about 5 of 7 that way. Mixed blessing. Presumably because StarOffice was too dumb to attempt to deal with the bad code and ignored it?
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On the other hand, try being the one _propagating_ the radio waves. Flight path restrictions exempted, amateur radio operators have a federal license to a 100 foot tower and 1000 watts output. Happy homeowners' meeting announcing that.
Sounds like you're still in that Reagan era mentality that anything government does is evil (Real ID) and everything business does is good (Spyware). Which Right in the Bill protects spyware? You think it is freedom of speech?
Both Real ID and spyware are invasions of the target's liberty and security.
We are a long, long way from having the hardware. There are indications that every brain cell is more like a computer than a memory cell.
And we are so much farther away from even defining the specs for the software. To quote Dark Star, "Teach it phenomenology!" That would at least be a start.
One could argue that you don't have to understand a mind to download it, but that seems like a shallow, false analogy. Yes, you could pour water from one glass to another without understanding water, but water is a simple thing of homogeneous building blocks. A mind is all about the structure.
On Kurzweil, I picked up Extreme Science (2001) by the Scientific American people at a used bookstore the other week. He certainly sounds uninformed today as I am sure many of us thought he sounded then.
Remote X to Win4Lin? Interesting, if they haven't prevented it. Offhand, I suspect it probably shoots the license to heck though since I believe they have a similar commercial offering.:)
Anyway, I did a Win4Lin kernal compile to an FC3 upgrade on one machine this morning. Took 4 hours since it was the first time I've compiled a kernel and the instructions I was working from had one command with a typo, two anbiguous command line parameters that could catch the uninitiated and two omissions since I am using lilo instead of grub. Actually, pretty good for linux documentation.
And except for some apparent modules.conf->modprobe.conf problems with removable devices, it was a very respectable upgrade that preserved most personal setup attributes considering it was a pretty radical 2.4 to 2.6 kernel, Gnome to KDE, OSS to ALSA upgrade. Win4Lin seems stable.
_NOW_, I could probably do another kernel in under an hour total using my annotated instructions, but the main topic remains that anything that requires a person to fire up "make xconfig" and follow multiple pages of instructions isn't grandma tested.
Spoken like a technie realist. Most politicians who voted for Apollo probably thought the by-product was showing the Russkies who had the baddest science and technology.
If Homeland Security can't buy an American computer or cell phone, that is quite a hole to dig ourselves out of today.
Thanks for the link. I'll give it another try of course going that way. The Red Hat 9 WIn4Lin kernel and nVidia driver coexist, but I'm still not convinced it will work with Fedora 3 because it seems like a give and take:
I had been using the.tar from nVidia's site. OK. So it is just a module. Good!
That installs the nVidia driver for your current kernel.
Hopefully. But if I remember, it may object about not recognizing my kernel because I won't be using either a Fedora or generic kernel.
Win4Lin requires, and has always supplied, its own kernels but they cut back and gave up on Fedora after 1. They still supply some patches that you can apply to your own generic kernel download that you configure and install yourself but it looks like they are phasing out "classic" Win4Lin (if it can be called that) to a new product something like VMWare that doesn't require a patched kernel.
Surely a sign that Win9X is so approaching terminal death that it isn't even being supported well as a virtual OS. Unfortunately, we have moved so much over to native linux that Win4Lin 9X handles all the legacy stuff we need and we really don't want or need to buy copies of XP and the new Win4Lin Pro. But it would be nice to periodically upgrade linux while maintaining that legacy support.
I have to agree that the main effect is that if I were a potential foreign student I'd look at this and say, "Screw the U.S. of A. Australia, here I come."
But there is one weird thing. It seems like the FBI have impunity to go anywhere in the world and arrest anybody they want these days. What if a foreign student goes back home and independently invents something on the controlled list? Will the FBi fly over to arrest him because "surely" he is in violation? Seems like the easiest thing is just to isolate the U.S. because it is a poison pill.
OK, well here's a dolt and this issue comes at a perfect time.
I have two Red Hat 9 desktops that I would like to upgrade to Fedora 3. Today. Both are running Win4Lin and I want nVidia video acceleration.
I've downloaded "How to Install Win4Lin on FC3" from a Google search. Prints out to about 2-1/2 pp of 10 point on kernel recompile (and more pages on blog follow-up issues).
But nVidia acceleration is also a patch. But, but, but..... It is my understanding that you don't patch a patched kernel because the patch assumes it is being applied to an unpatched kernel and the patch won't patch. Tried it once on nVidia "custom" install with a Fedora Core 1 Win4Lin patched kernel and the nVidia splash came up, the background came up -- and it locked.
So, undolt me. How do I get the functionality of _multi_-patching linux kernels?
Very reminiscent of the perennial teacher's shortage. "Great jobs! Wondeful pay! Excellent working conditions! Fast-track advancement! Sure to be multiple job offers bidding for your skills when you graduate! So spend a few years and tens of thousands of dollars investing in this very special opportunity!" How many times has that news flash been printed?
Back to reality, didn't I read last year that India is seeing competition from places like South Africa and Brazil?
They already have a health care system that costs a fraction of U.S. care and provides a similar mean population longevity. Linux seems like a natural complement to that efficiency.
But what if they decide to host the North American linux conference some year and nobody in the U.S. can go?
Looks like Gattaca is coming. "Just a drop of blood, sir, and we'll have that Mastercard verified!" Since I'm a hemophobe, they'll have to deal with me passing out a lot.
Heck, it's OK to be an >>"old" conservative.:) [The more time I spend defending the Consitution on things like the separation of church and state, the more I feel like one myself these days.] I should have unleashed the divisive political scalpel of "Neocon Evangelical" terminology to be more precise.
To get serious, there are a couple critical ethical issues in human augmentation. It's one thing to cure cancer with genetic manipulation but it is unlikely that an augmentation would be attempted (any time soon) on an adult. One will more likely be in a position to make a life decision for your offspring. That's going to be pretty excruciating: "Sure give him gills and flippers. He'll be happier in Oceania." And from all the warnings in sci fi, the possibility of a eugenics war is pretty high with a speciation branch.
Why make it a church issue? Is it so important to knock down those who believe something different?
Because every time I tell a conservative person that I want to live 500 years and have cat's eyes and coordination to run through the moon-lit forest, they look funny at me?
The majority of the kerfuffle about stem cell research revolves around DNA having a soul but there is also the undercurrent of "man in God's image" that is going to be a major issue in this or next century. And it will equally revolve around "moral values" as empirically groundless. Undoubtedly everyone except the Jehovah's Witnesses will be overjoyed to have genetic treatment for cancer -- but just try to enhance any capability above the "God-given" norm and we will have social unrest.
Recommend Bruce Sterling's early Schizmatrix on this. He was still getting up to speed on the writing thing but it is precisely about the species differentiating as groups become isolated populating the solar system.
After the initial enthusiasm, there seemed to be a major international die-back about 1999. I got the impression the internet stream was seen as a money losing toy and I never understood that. Just the inability of marketing and advertisers to grasp the paradigm? You know you have a listener with a stream and even if I'm only understanding 1 in 4 words coming from that station in Paris, I can sure pick out "Coca Cola".
Digitallyimported.com rules. 4 or 5 years of vocal trance and now I can't listen to a handful of guys banging and twanging anymore.
Phrack is defunct so why don't they just start by raiding Palladin and Loompanics Press and assert that people in the U.S. do not have a right to publish "terrorist" material? That's the goal, right? Or is this just a neural net exercise?
No, no, no, no, no. Where does this talk come from? Where is it ingrained?
When did the government nationalize the airlines? When did the government nationalize the farms? When did the government nationalize the factories? When did the government nationalize the hospitals? When did the govenrment nationalize all media?
Come on, people. Show some education!
When a society is run by and for the corporations, it is FASCISM. That is the definition. Yes, totalitarian communism is, well, totalitarian. But so is fascism. Don't just throw out any term. If you do, you are just name-calling. You don't have a grasp of the situation yet and, therefore, don't have a clue about what to do about it.
It is time for people to get comfortable with the "F" word. Look, for example, at apartheid South Africa. Was it fascist? Hell, yes! Did it have death camps with crematoria? Hell, no! "Soft" fascism is a matter of style.
What the U.S. has is an incredible history of media and advertisng talent, media ownership concentration and media saturation. Everything this government does is scripted in a way no other country on the planet can accomplish. A person can't get into a Bush "meet the people" event if his car in the parking lot has a dissenting bumpersticker, right?
There is no reason to build concentration camps as long as they can keep almost everyone duped because there isn't significant unrest. And there is incredible "political capital" in maintaining the illusion of democracy. What I am afraid of is precisely that the ruling powers will get away with this scripting of the reality of U.S. consciousness for DECADES until things (as in "real" reality) get so bad we have a fourth-world anarchy in the streets and revolution. And in that long degeneration wake up to a world run by China where our country and future have been lost.
Not willingly. Most Americans don't have a clue that anything is going on because the "news" is too busy with brain-dead women, runaway brides, six-toed cats and Paris Hilton.
Remember, this is the land that originated Disney and Madison Avenue advertising. A child's soul is sold before kindergarten.
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As much as I like the place, it can swing toward political correctness as a philosophical evil. Minnesota pioneered the idea of keeping sex offenders in custody indefinitely as criminally insane sociopaths AFTER they fulfilled their sentence. A teeny tad problematic constitutionally. After a couple decades of this, just this month they finally passed a law calling for life without parole for some sex offenses -- which at least addresses the legal issue.
Minnesota has also toyed with all the pornography definitions from "know it when I see it" to "anything whatsoever that incites the perverse". So the encryption issue is obviously just another Minnesota sex thing where encryption had the misfortune of being present at the scene of the crime.
On the other hand, a judge tossed out a case last year explaining to all involved that it wasn't the defendent's responsibility to prove that the girls in the photos were over 18. It was the prosecution's responsibility to prove that they _weren't_.
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A few years ago (we're talking free StarOffice) people used to send me the mangled email
On the other hand, try being the one _propagating_ the radio waves. Flight path restrictions exempted, amateur radio operators have a federal license to a 100 foot tower and 1000 watts output. Happy homeowners' meeting announcing that.
Sounds like you're still in that Reagan era mentality that anything government does is evil (Real ID) and everything business does is good (Spyware). Which Right in the Bill protects spyware? You think it is freedom of speech?
Both Real ID and spyware are invasions of the target's liberty and security.
Yes, it is pretty stupid.
We are a long, long way from having the hardware. There are indications that every brain cell is more like a computer than a memory cell.
And we are so much farther away from even defining the specs for the software. To quote Dark Star, "Teach it phenomenology!" That would at least be a start.
One could argue that you don't have to understand a mind to download it, but that seems like a shallow, false analogy. Yes, you could pour water from one glass to another without understanding water, but water is a simple thing of homogeneous building blocks. A mind is all about the structure.
On Kurzweil, I picked up Extreme Science (2001) by the Scientific American people at a used bookstore the other week. He certainly sounds uninformed today as I am sure many of us thought he sounded then.
A late update for the archives.
:)
Remote X to Win4Lin? Interesting, if they haven't prevented it. Offhand, I suspect it probably shoots the license to heck though since I believe they have a similar commercial offering.
Anyway, I did a Win4Lin kernal compile to an FC3 upgrade on one machine this morning. Took 4 hours since it was the first time I've compiled a kernel and the instructions I was working from had one command with a typo, two anbiguous command line parameters that could catch the uninitiated and two omissions since I am using lilo instead of grub. Actually, pretty good for linux documentation.
And except for some apparent modules.conf->modprobe.conf problems with removable devices, it was a very respectable upgrade that preserved most personal setup attributes considering it was a pretty radical 2.4 to 2.6 kernel, Gnome to KDE, OSS to ALSA upgrade. Win4Lin seems stable.
_NOW_, I could probably do another kernel in under an hour total using my annotated instructions, but the main topic remains that anything that requires a person to fire up "make xconfig" and follow multiple pages of instructions isn't grandma tested.
I still have to play with acceleration.
Science was a only by-product of Apollo.
Spoken like a technie realist. Most politicians who voted for Apollo probably thought the by-product was showing the Russkies who had the baddest science and technology.
If Homeland Security can't buy an American computer or cell phone, that is quite a hole to dig ourselves out of today.
Thanks for the link. I'll give it another try of course going that way. The Red Hat 9 WIn4Lin kernel and nVidia driver coexist, but I'm still not convinced it will work with Fedora 3 because it seems like a give and take:
.tar from nVidia's site. OK. So it is just a module. Good!
3. yum install nvidia-glx kernel-module-nvidia-`(uname -r)`
I had been using the
That installs the nVidia driver for your current kernel.
Hopefully. But if I remember, it may object about not recognizing my kernel because I won't be using either a Fedora or generic kernel.
Win4Lin requires, and has always supplied, its own kernels but they cut back and gave up on Fedora after 1. They still supply some patches that you can apply to your own generic kernel download that you configure and install yourself but it looks like they are phasing out "classic" Win4Lin (if it can be called that) to a new product something like VMWare that doesn't require a patched kernel.
Surely a sign that Win9X is so approaching terminal death that it isn't even being supported well as a virtual OS. Unfortunately, we have moved so much over to native linux that Win4Lin 9X handles all the legacy stuff we need and we really don't want or need to buy copies of XP and the new Win4Lin Pro. But it would be nice to periodically upgrade linux while maintaining that legacy support.
Ok, this one puts me over the top.
I have to agree that the main effect is that if I were a potential foreign student I'd look at this and say, "Screw the U.S. of A. Australia, here I come."
But there is one weird thing. It seems like the FBI have impunity to go anywhere in the world and arrest anybody they want these days. What if a foreign student goes back home and independently invents something on the controlled list? Will the FBi fly over to arrest him because "surely" he is in violation? Seems like the easiest thing is just to isolate the U.S. because it is a poison pill.
OK, well here's a dolt and this issue comes at a perfect time.
I have two Red Hat 9 desktops that I would like to upgrade to Fedora 3. Today. Both are running Win4Lin and I want nVidia video acceleration.
I've downloaded "How to Install Win4Lin on FC3" from a Google search. Prints out to about 2-1/2 pp of 10 point on kernel recompile (and more pages on blog follow-up issues).
But nVidia acceleration is also a patch. But, but, but..... It is my understanding that you don't patch a patched kernel because the patch assumes it is being applied to an unpatched kernel and the patch won't patch. Tried it once on nVidia "custom" install with a Fedora Core 1 Win4Lin patched kernel and the nVidia splash came up, the background came up -- and it locked.
So, undolt me. How do I get the functionality of _multi_-patching linux kernels?
Make sure it is simple. Remember, I'm a dolt.
I'll check back.
Very reminiscent of the perennial teacher's shortage. "Great jobs! Wondeful pay! Excellent working conditions! Fast-track advancement! Sure to be multiple job offers bidding for your skills when you graduate! So spend a few years and tens of thousands of dollars investing in this very special opportunity!" How many times has that news flash been printed?
Back to reality, didn't I read last year that India is seeing competition from places like South Africa and Brazil?
They already have a health care system that costs a fraction of U.S. care and provides a similar mean population longevity. Linux seems like a natural complement to that efficiency.
But what if they decide to host the North American linux conference some year and nobody in the U.S. can go?
and it's been distopian as often as not.
Looks like Gattaca is coming. "Just a drop of blood, sir, and we'll have that Mastercard verified!" Since I'm a hemophobe, they'll have to deal with me passing out a lot.
Yeah. It is that icky sort of Jeff Gannon self-denial homophobia. Just look at all the pseudo-Greek naked statuary in Nazi art.
Heck, it's OK to be an >>"old" conservative.
To get serious, there are a couple critical ethical issues in human augmentation. It's one thing to cure cancer with genetic manipulation but it is unlikely that an augmentation would be attempted (any time soon) on an adult. One will more likely be in a position to make a life decision for your offspring. That's going to be pretty excruciating: "Sure give him gills and flippers. He'll be happier in Oceania." And from all the warnings in sci fi, the possibility of a eugenics war is pretty high with a speciation branch.
Try not to think about the song "Happy birthday to you". Gotcha. Please submit your online payment to the RIAA at our cnvenient web site.
Will undercover agents be allowed to hum to get a legal entrapment?
Why make it a church issue? Is it so important to knock down those who believe something different?
Because every time I tell a conservative person that I want to live 500 years and have cat's eyes and coordination to run through the moon-lit forest, they look funny at me?
The majority of the kerfuffle about stem cell research revolves around DNA having a soul but there is also the undercurrent of "man in God's image" that is going to be a major issue in this or next century. And it will equally revolve around "moral values" as empirically groundless. Undoubtedly everyone except the Jehovah's Witnesses will be overjoyed to have genetic treatment for cancer -- but just try to enhance any capability above the "God-given" norm and we will have social unrest.
Recommend Bruce Sterling's early Schizmatrix on this. He was still getting up to speed on the writing thing but it is precisely about the species differentiating as groups become isolated populating the solar system.
After the initial enthusiasm, there seemed to be a major international die-back about 1999. I got the impression the internet stream was seen as a money losing toy and I never understood that. Just the inability of marketing and advertisers to grasp the paradigm? You know you have a listener with a stream and even if I'm only understanding 1 in 4 words coming from that station in Paris, I can sure pick out "Coca Cola".
Digitallyimported.com rules. 4 or 5 years of vocal trance and now I can't listen to a handful of guys banging and twanging anymore.
Then what?
Phrack is defunct so why don't they just start by raiding Palladin and Loompanics Press and assert that people in the U.S. do not have a right to publish "terrorist" material? That's the goal, right? Or is this just a neural net exercise?
The only problem is: tritium is a gas, and if the gas leaked and breathed by humans, those beta particles could wreak havoc in the lungs.
Ditto -- speaking from a radon infested part of the country.
I still think they would rather hold off until fall of '08 to blame Clinton and the Democrats for requiring a new TV in every trailer.
Don't forget to give credir where credit is due. I remember a Reagan administration push to privatize rhe research of public universities.
Nah. The Soviets, maybe.
No, no, no, no, no. Where does this talk come from? Where is it ingrained?
When did the government nationalize the airlines?
When did the government nationalize the farms?
When did the government nationalize the factories?
When did the government nationalize the hospitals?
When did the govenrment nationalize all media?
Come on, people. Show some education!
When a society is run by and for the corporations, it is FASCISM. That is the definition. Yes, totalitarian communism is, well, totalitarian. But so is fascism. Don't just throw out any term. If you do, you are just name-calling. You don't have a grasp of the situation yet and, therefore, don't have a clue about what to do about it.
It is time for people to get comfortable with the "F" word. Look, for example, at apartheid South Africa. Was it fascist? Hell, yes! Did it have death camps with crematoria? Hell, no! "Soft" fascism is a matter of style.
What the U.S. has is an incredible history of media and advertisng talent, media ownership concentration and media saturation. Everything this government does is scripted in a way no other country on the planet can accomplish. A person can't get into a Bush "meet the people" event if his car in the parking lot has a dissenting bumpersticker, right?
There is no reason to build concentration camps as long as they can keep almost everyone duped because there isn't significant unrest. And there is incredible "political capital" in maintaining the illusion of democracy. What I am afraid of is precisely that the ruling powers will get away with this scripting of the reality of U.S. consciousness for DECADES until things (as in "real" reality) get so bad we have a fourth-world anarchy in the streets and revolution. And in that long degeneration wake up to a world run by China where our country and future have been lost.
Accountability!
Oh? Never mind.
Not willingly. Most Americans don't have a clue that anything is going on because the "news" is too busy with brain-dead women, runaway brides, six-toed cats and Paris Hilton.
Remember, this is the land that originated Disney and Madison Avenue advertising. A child's soul is sold before kindergarten.