I think what he didn't want is scaremongering, which is what this story is. The DNA swab is likely required in all cases to make sure they know who they have (or who's kid they have) in custody. Likely because of a lawsuit from someone who was held improperly, or in case of mistaken identity.
Lawsuits happen, the police get a new policy, and individual officers don't get to decide when they follow it, lest they get fired.
As to the kids' actions being completely innocent... I built a couple tree houses as a kid, but always on my parents' or one of the other participating kids' properties. I never in a million years would have expected that I could go into a park and start breaking limbs so I could build one there.
But then my parents taught me "not yours, don't touch." See, they didn't want the police picking me up for vandalism.
Seems that's not very important to parents anymore.
As far as I have seen, if "webmasters" simply refrain from using browser specific crap (such as explorer 5 or 6 centric gizmos, excluding non-explorer browsers) they won't have a problem. To it's credit, IE 7 is much more sane about security issues. I still prefer Firefox, since I use Linux most of the time, but in cases where I'm forced to use IE, I find 7 beta much less annoying or inconvienient than its predicessors.
Meant to mention this. the whole concept was developed for manufacturing (which is the main purpose of my former employer, a Hearing Aid manufacturer). For that purpose it does have a use. It's still abused there to try to create a manual to eliminate the need for skilled workers.
It's been expanded to IT and Software, as well as other purposes for which it is not suited. These are professions that require actual expertise, rather than the ability to mindlessly and accurately follow a set of instructions.
Every place I've ever encountered ISO-9000, it's been more insideous. It's been a way of trying to get the skilled workers to document everything they did into an instruction manual so that unskilled workers could be hired off the street and "follow the ISO-9000 docs" to get the job done.
A previous employer tried to get me to do that (write ISO 9000 docs) so that he could hire my replacement at an even lower rate than he was paying me. I was working IT as a network administrator right out of college.
Vincent wasn't the slighted fucking bit unreasonable. "I want to cancel" is as clear as it gets. He does not, nor does anyone else, owe the phone drone a single thing.
4 minutes of my time is fine, but only if you agree that I can bill you for it. I'll tell you what my per-minute billable rate is after I hear your spiel. Sound fair?
Bullshit. If I say "I want to cancel, that's a final decision, do what I say", the only acceptable response is "Yes Sir."
I get any resistance, and I will imply very strongly that the rep is placing himself at very strong risk of personal legal expense.
I'm not going to waste my time on a fucking damage control script so a corporation can stave off the bleeding. If I say cancel, you'd better damned well do what I tell you or you, mister phone goon, will be paying not only my unwanted fees, but a large punitive sum as well.
Oh you dont' have that much? that's OK, my lawyer can have your future income attached. Your miserable life just got a little more miserable because you just HAD to tow the company line. Have a nice day.
Eve is open-pvp for the most part. It's designed more for player oriented solutions.
Most people do not play PvP all the time. I rarely will play PvP in a MMO. I am not interested in competing or trying to ruin someone else's night.
Sane people do not pay a fee to play a game where they will be locked into the role of "victim". That's what griefers are looking for. Not "villainous roleplay", and DAMNED SURE not a fair fight. They want someone to pick on. They want to see how many people they can make QUIT.
In MOST games, it behooves the company running the game to boot "villainous roleplayers" who attempt to interfere with non-consenting players in a non-PvP situation. I'm not interested in being your victim, and I'm not interested in providing you with entertaiment at my expense, without my consent.
I'm paying a fee for my own entertainment, and to interact on my terms. Interfere with that, and damned straight I'm going to demand that Customer Service do something about you.
I'm DEFINITELY not considering EvE. It's a technically beautiful game, and the tutorial was excellent.
Actually, yea, it is low. It would be what, all of 44K if it was a 12 month salary? That's still below median.
Keep trying to convince people that they should lower their standard of living to conform to your beliefs though. A few stupid souls might buy into your newsletter.
THing that scares me about the current situation is that the anti-net neutrality ads are trying to tell Joe and Janie mouth-breather that Net Neutrality is threatening their TV time. "extremists want to threaten potential competition for your cable TV that could save you money".
Obviously these are funded by the Telcos, but for some reason they aren't required to own up to it.
It was their employee, and they did not excercise oversight. I hope the victims sue and win MILLIONS. Whatever the penalty, it should be painful enough that Best Buy changes their internal policies in order to avoid having this happen again.
Were it me, I'd be vindictive enough to sue the local store manager personally. Then the regional manager personally. And so on..
It's more likely to result in a victory when you sue an individual that can't rely on the resources of a corporation to defend himself (and they won't lift a finger if you sue him personally). Won't have as much immediate profit, but the motherfucker will be signing part of his paycheck over to you for the rest of his life.
Not as far as I have seen. I have several SAMBA servers that I map to from my main gaming box. removable storage quite nicely takes drive letters outside that range when plugged in.
Now in the case of Novell, what I have learned is that if you map from the end of the alphabet back (say, start your mapped drives at Z and work back) you avoid the collisions.
I still don't understand why anyone would use Netware unless they were forced to test with it though...
True. It's also a pain in the ass for users. It's almost as if certain devs are scolding the user "BAD user. Don't use that, it's not open source (never mind that you won't have any kind of game performance if you use the open source version of the driver)."
I've been using Linux for years. I will continue to do. One thing that's very important to Linux "making it" on the desktop of Joe Six-pack and the like:
Users don't give a shit about license provisions that are intended to try to strong-arm corporations into doing things the way they're not pre-disposed to do. Users just want the thing to fucking work. Forcing them to download the drivers seperately, and really, that's all this part of the GPL accomplishes, is not going to make them look favorably on the experience. They're not going to blame ATI or Nvidia, they're going to blame the GPL.
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Well, legit or not, this bit kills it for me:
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Windows Operating System (Windows 95, 98, Me, NT, 2000, XP).
Not that I'd invest in an IPO for a company that's business model could evaporate at any moment. Been thinking of cancelling and switching entirely to my cellphone anyhow, since I don't have any real need for a faux-landline anymore.
Getting voicemail spam about this doesn't help me feel better about them...
It's not like this is 2000 and getting in on an IPO like this is going to make anyone an instant millionaire (apart from members of the Vonage board).
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I think what he didn't want is scaremongering, which is what this story is. The DNA swab is likely required in all cases to make sure they know who they have (or who's kid they have) in custody. Likely because of a lawsuit from someone who was held improperly, or in case of mistaken identity.
Lawsuits happen, the police get a new policy, and individual officers don't get to decide when they follow it, lest they get fired.
As to the kids' actions being completely innocent... I built a couple tree houses as a kid, but always on my parents' or one of the other participating kids' properties. I never in a million years would have expected that I could go into a park and start breaking limbs so I could build one there.
But then my parents taught me "not yours, don't touch." See, they didn't want the police picking me up for vandalism.
Seems that's not very important to parents anymore.
Sounded like Digg to me, but then I've never been to Boing Boing.
Best Python Reference Ever.
Dude,
either Barbarella is going to so kick your ass, or you're about to be mobbed by a bunch of 38 year old British chicks. I can't tell which.
Either way, thumbs up on the nick.
As far as I have seen, if "webmasters" simply refrain from using browser specific crap (such as explorer 5 or 6 centric gizmos, excluding non-explorer browsers) they won't have a problem. To it's credit, IE 7 is much more sane about security issues. I still prefer Firefox, since I use Linux most of the time, but in cases where I'm forced to use IE, I find 7 beta much less annoying or inconvienient than its predicessors.
Meant to mention this. the whole concept was developed for manufacturing (which is the main purpose of my former employer, a Hearing Aid manufacturer). For that purpose it does have a use. It's still abused there to try to create a manual to eliminate the need for skilled workers.
It's been expanded to IT and Software, as well as other purposes for which it is not suited. These are professions that require actual expertise, rather than the ability to mindlessly and accurately follow a set of instructions.
Every place I've ever encountered ISO-9000, it's been more insideous. It's been a way of trying to get the skilled workers to document everything they did into an instruction manual so that unskilled workers could be hired off the street and "follow the ISO-9000 docs" to get the job done.
A previous employer tried to get me to do that (write ISO 9000 docs) so that he could hire my replacement at an even lower rate than he was paying me. I was working IT as a network administrator right out of college.
He's out of business now.
He was a piece of shit, and his "grieving family" will be profiting from his wrongdoing for years to come. We owe them nothing, least of all respect.
Which is why I advise people to threaten to get lawyers involved at the first sign that the phone drone isn't going to comply.
Vincent wasn't the slighted fucking bit unreasonable. "I want to cancel" is as clear as it gets. He does not, nor does anyone else, owe the phone drone a single thing.
4 minutes of my time is fine, but only if you agree that I can bill you for it. I'll tell you what my per-minute billable rate is after I hear your spiel. Sound fair?
Bullshit. If I say "I want to cancel, that's a final decision, do what I say", the only acceptable response is "Yes Sir."
I get any resistance, and I will imply very strongly that the rep is placing himself at very strong risk of personal legal expense.
I'm not going to waste my time on a fucking damage control script so a corporation can stave off the bleeding. If I say cancel, you'd better damned well do what I tell you or you, mister phone goon, will be paying not only my unwanted fees, but a large punitive sum as well.
Oh you dont' have that much? that's OK, my lawyer can have your future income attached. Your miserable life just got a little more miserable because you just HAD to tow the company line. Have a nice day.
To clear the floor for their next ill-conceived, developed in house, effort?
Damn. Mythic seemed to have something of a clue, although I was really looking forward to the game they killed, Imperator.
I doubt we will ever see Warhammer Online now.
Eve is open-pvp for the most part. It's designed more for player oriented solutions.
Most people do not play PvP all the time. I rarely will play PvP in a MMO. I am not interested in competing or trying to ruin someone else's night.
Sane people do not pay a fee to play a game where they will be locked into the role of "victim". That's what griefers are looking for. Not "villainous roleplay", and DAMNED SURE not a fair fight. They want someone to pick on. They want to see how many people they can make QUIT.
In MOST games, it behooves the company running the game to boot "villainous roleplayers" who attempt to interfere with non-consenting players in a non-PvP situation. I'm not interested in being your victim, and I'm not interested in providing you with entertaiment at my expense, without my consent.
I'm paying a fee for my own entertainment, and to interact on my terms. Interfere with that, and damned straight I'm going to demand that Customer Service do something about you.
I'm DEFINITELY not considering EvE. It's a technically beautiful game, and the tutorial was excellent.
I'm not interested in PvP though.
Actually, yea, it is low. It would be what, all of 44K if it was a 12 month salary? That's still below median.
Keep trying to convince people that they should lower their standard of living to conform to your beliefs though. A few stupid souls might buy into your newsletter.
THing that scares me about the current situation is that the anti-net neutrality ads are trying to tell Joe and Janie mouth-breather that Net Neutrality is threatening their TV time. "extremists want to threaten potential competition for your cable TV that could save you money".
Obviously these are funded by the Telcos, but for some reason they aren't required to own up to it.
And if they do that and then sell it, they should wind up in pound-me-in-the-ass prison.
It was their employee, and they did not excercise oversight. I hope the victims sue and win MILLIONS. Whatever the penalty, it should be painful enough that Best Buy changes their internal policies in order to avoid having this happen again.
Were it me, I'd be vindictive enough to sue the local store manager personally. Then the regional manager personally. And so on..
It's more likely to result in a victory when you sue an individual that can't rely on the resources of a corporation to defend himself (and they won't lift a finger if you sue him personally). Won't have as much immediate profit, but the motherfucker will be signing part of his paycheck over to you for the rest of his life.
That can be much more satisfying.
Screw this. I'm going to make my own beer pouring robot, only with blackjack and hookers!
In fact, forget the...
oh damn. Nope.
I live near DisnyQuest. Only been there once. It was a typo, but the name "DisneyQues" in the title of this story is pretty appropriate.
There's lines for EVERYTHING, from getting into the building to getting to play even the least game.
Not fun.
Not as far as I have seen. I have several SAMBA servers that I map to from my main gaming box. removable storage quite nicely takes drive letters outside that range when plugged in.
Now in the case of Novell, what I have learned is that if you map from the end of the alphabet back (say, start your mapped drives at Z and work back) you avoid the collisions.
I still don't understand why anyone would use Netware unless they were forced to test with it though...
Seriously... Why? NFS and/or SAMBA and a few Linux servers are much easier to deal with...
True. It's also a pain in the ass for users. It's almost as if certain devs are scolding the user "BAD user. Don't use that, it's not open source (never mind that you won't have any kind of game performance if you use the open source version of the driver)."
I've been using Linux for years. I will continue to do. One thing that's very important to Linux "making it" on the desktop of Joe Six-pack and the like:
Users don't give a shit about license provisions that are intended to try to strong-arm corporations into doing things the way they're not pre-disposed to do. Users just want the thing to fucking work. Forcing them to download the drivers seperately, and really, that's all this part of the GPL accomplishes, is not going to make them look favorably on the experience. They're not going to blame ATI or Nvidia, they're going to blame the GPL.
Yea, actually. About 2-3 days ago...
Not that I'd invest in an IPO for a company that's business model could evaporate at any moment. Been thinking of cancelling and switching entirely to my cellphone anyhow, since I don't have any real need for a faux-landline anymore.
Getting voicemail spam about this doesn't help me feel better about them...
It's not like this is 2000 and getting in on an IPO like this is going to make anyone an instant millionaire (apart from members of the Vonage board).