Until we have REAL AI, self-aware, capable of actual thought and real interaction with humans, and not the current dead-end approach ('learning algorithms', 'expert systems', etc) we will not have truly safe, effective self-driving cars -- and having these half-assed systems fully in control of a vehicle, with no possibility of humans taking control, we will have death and disaster. At best we'll have totally frustrating vehicles that stop for apparently no reason, while it 'phones home' so a human operator can remotely control it, which is also totally unacceptable. You can keep your so-called 'self driving cars', because I don't want to die. Furthermore we won't have REAL AI for a long time to come yet, if ever, because we have no idea how an actual brain is conscious, self-aware, and capable of true ability to think. It's all marketing hype and nonsense perpetuated by people who have no clue what's really going on, and they can keep it, I'd sooner WALK everywhere.
How about basing the value of an employee on something as radical as, say, how much the accomplish and the quality of their work? I know, I know, that's just crazy talk, right? I mean, who in their right mind would bother over trifles like what an employee actually gets done? LOL they must all be smarter than us, and watching us every single moment like we're convicts in prison or little children who have to be watched over is better.
When are people going to learn? Your privacy is worth something, and if you use so-called 'social media' and smartphones, you're giving that away for FREE to people and organizations that don't give two shits about what's good for you, only what makes them the most money. Nothing Facebook is 'giving' you is worth what you're giving up. Your 'smartphone' is just a mobile surveillance and data-collection platform, and you're paying through the nose to have one. Seriously, when are people going to wise up?
The Internet has been twisted and subverted from being the font of information and a vastly useful tool for humanity in general, into something driven by greed and the very worst that humanity has to offer -- and there's many orders of magnitude more people in the world interested in keeping it that way (and making it more so) than there are people who want to fix the problems. As-is, the Internet may become something not worth having. At current you can ignore the worst of it, but if it reaches the point where the negativity and greed are pushing their way into everything, then it may be time to say good-bye to it.
Must be nice living in your perfect world, where everyone always plays by the rules, nobody ever has any ill intent towards anyone else for any reason whatsoever, and nothing ever goes wrong for anyone, anywhere, ever.
Of course if that's what someone actually believes, then they're very naive and are living in a fantasy world that does not and cannot exist. If there is a way for someone to game or otherwise bypass the system, be able to case someone's house, communicate what's good to steal to someone else, when no one is home, and have someone come and break in later and rob the place? They'll do it, because there's money to be made from crime.
The fact of the matter is, you're insane if you engage a 'service' like this one from Amazon. I can't imagine any sane person doing it, or if they are sane, again, they're horribly naive.
Things like this are a symptom of what's wrong with the entertainment industry: no new ideas. There's nothing to be done with a LotR weekly series; it's a complete story already, there's nothing more to be told that makes sense; it's beating a dead horse./opinion
On the 'hipster' end of things, it's to record their vinyl records to, so they don't wear out the vinyl. That's the way it used to be done, and I have no reason to believe that it's any different now. Of course if it were I, and I was still buying vinyl records, which I'm not, I'd be digitizing the vinyl at a high sampling rate and greater than 16b per channel, and using that as a master for creating cassette tapes, and storing the vinyl in such a way that they'd be preserved as long as humanly possible.
Among other things, it's totally DRM-free; you can't copy protect a baseband audio cassette. Aside from that, the technology is mature and dirt cheap, and actually durable in many ways similar to a printed paper book. If an audio CD gets damaged, it may become totally unplayable; if an audio cassette gets damaged, it may still be playable, and may be repairable to the point of being 100% again. If the shells they're using are held together with screws then it's easy to change shells if they get damaged. If the tape itself gets a damaged section, that section can be cut out and the tape spliced, leaving >99.9% of the original content intact. Damaged tapes, if they can be made playable at least one more time, can be copied, yielding a lower quality end product, but one that is usable. Note that none of this is music to the ears of so-called 'audiophiles' who expect everything to sound like they're hearing it live. There's also the fact that making a 'mix tape' is relatively simple, needing only a playback deck and a record deck; no computer or software required, just time and patience. You can even record things off broadcast radio relatively simply, and 0.125" audio cassette tape has more than enough bandwidth for FM broadcast. Sure, it's not CD quality, not by a longshot, but if all you care about is hearing the music and being entertained by it, and not continually critiquing the quality of the recording, then it's not bad at all.
1. I don't post anything relevant about my life here, I don't use my real name, and I don't have 'friends' or 'likes' or any of that shit. This is NOT 'social media', it is a 'news aggregation site with commenting'. If you're using it as 'social media' then I feel sorry for you.
2. Then they should boot Trump off. He's an embarassment to Twitter -- and the American people.
3. Trump is nothing but hate and lies, and likely a traitor. Don't like that I say that? Tough shit.
Planes flew well before we understood the exact air dynamics of bird and insect wings.
That's a purely physical effect and has no bearing whatsoever on the subject.
Also, an AI does not have to do all the same things as humans..
That's not the point. People and companies are EXPECTING it to -- and it WON'T. What we see right now with so-called 'self driving cars' for instance is corporations that invested many millions of dollars, thinking it was going to be a typical development cycle -- only to find it falling short, because it is a dead end. So do they take the loss and let the stockholders chop off their heads? Nope, marketing people, who understand things the LEAST of anyone, are hyping it and pushing it anyway. The media picks that up, hypes it more, because they're even LESS understanding of it. Finally average people, who know NOTHING, believe the hype, because that's what they're indoctrinated to do. So we have shitty 'self driving cars' that have to come to a complete stop and literally call a human remote operator to drive it over/around/through whatever it is that it's 'decision trees' can't handle. This is not real AI, it is a poor imitation of AI; it is a DEAD END technology that will NEVER work as advertised. So it goes with all this crap they're calling 'AI'. It might be able to handle simple things -- assuming it's been 'trained' (LOL, 'learning algorithms') for a million hours, but it'll always come up against something it can't handle because it can't THINK.
Call me when you have real AI. Oh yeah I'll probably be long since dead and fossilized by then.
Doesn't mean Trump won't tweet about how it's 'fake news' or 'fake facts' or 'they need to be fired' or writing up some bullshit Executive Order that declares the whole study and all the data to be false. I'm just waiting for that to happen. Or at the very least he'll order it all burned and ignorned and go on dragging us back to the 1950's.
The reason why you see so much of this nonsense is because it seems like 99% of everyone thinks that this thing they keep calling 'AI' is like what they see in movies and TV shows (conscious, self-aware, actually 'thinks', has a personality, etc) when in reality the family dog or cat is smarter than even the best of what they inaccurately call 'AI'. The current approach is a dead end technology; it won't yield a true mind, only a pale imitation that falls way short of the mark. We won't have real AI until we understand how a biological brain is capable of doing the things is does, and we're nowhere near that and won't be for quite some time yet.
There won't be any 'sputnik moment' because the current approach to what they're inaccurately referring to as 'artificial intelligence' is a dead end, it will never yield anything even so smart as your dog or cat, it will always fall short, because it will never be self-aware or capable of true cognition. The correct approach to AI will only be possible once we understand how a biological brain is capable of those things, and we're nowhere near beginning to figure that out, no matter what the undereducated fanbois on the Internet say about it.
Oh and by the way: The real hazard that so-called 'AI' poses is not it taking over, but people expecting way too much of it, and things getting mucked up when it fails to do as advertised.
From what I've heard (I don't use so-called 'social media' of any kind, not for at least 10 years now) Trump's account on Twitter should have been deleted a long time ago for violation of Terms of Service (hate speech, etc) and it certainly should be deleted now for posting 'fake news' and 'alternative facts' (read as: PROPAGANDA). Of course the downside to that would be the American people wouldn't have daily reminders of what a jackass he is, since he proves that on a daily (sometimes hourly) basis, with practically every single 'tweet'.
It's because management types are all-too-often paper-shufflers, bean-counters, and others with OCD tendencies, who do not know how to do the work themselves, all they're good at is micro-managing people, and their OCD tendencies mean they constantly feel like they're going to pee their pants if they can't physically see their direct reports (See what I did there? We're not 'people', we're just these objects called 'direct reports'. May as well call us 'work units' and stamp numbers on our foreheads) furiously slaving away. Doesn't matter to them at all if your own job entails shuffling papers around, or spending half the day on the phone in 'meetings', where nobody can see you anyway, they want to watch over you while you do it, because they're absolutely sure that somehow you're getting the work done without actually working, somehow.
Who the bloody hell wants to live forever, anyway? That would mean and eternity putting up with other people's shit that drives you more and more crazy decade after decade, except then it'd be forever. Quality of life > quantity of life.
If we'd taken that attitude in past decades instead of what we actually did, we'd all be speaking either German or Japanese by now. Bullshit attitude rejected. The world is now TOO SMALL to be isolationist, and it's far too late to just throw hands up and say "goodbye".
What I think we really need is better driver education/driver training, and reforms on driver testing -- more rigorous, and more often, to keep people on their toes and weed out the really bad ones, or at least force them to become competent. Just because you can pass a basic knowledge and skills test doesn't mean you're truly competent, all it means is you can pass a test. I actually fear for a future world where there's more technology, making people dumber and lazier and less competent when they really need to be, and I don't think so-called 'self driving cars' are the answer either.
You've pretty much beaten the guy up all by yourself so I'll leave that be, but I'd like to add:
Just because Putin/Russia isn't outwardly strong doesn't mean he can't be a troublemaker. What I see is Russia covertly influencing all sorts of things to destabilize NATO countries, NATO being the main roadblock to Putin invading other countries. We here in the U.S. sure feel 'destabilized', don't we? Did anyone think that Russian influence was because Putin like Trump or something? LOL no, the U.S. is one of the Big Dogs in NATO, and not only destabilizing us but also pissing off our allies and bringing our national reputation into question would go a long way towards destabilizing NATO in general. Then there's the UK and the BREXIT vote; I find the idea that there was Russian influences there, too, to be rather compelling, the UK being another Big Dog. I've gotten strange looks wondering out loud whether Russia has been helping to heat things up in Catalonia, but if you put it in this context is it really that far-fetched, considering that there was already bad blood between Spain and Catalonia in the first place? Then of course there's Crimea and Ukraine, which if I were Putin I'd not only want 'back in the fold', so-to-speak, but as a test case to see what sort of overall reaction from NATO and the EU he'd get for doing it -- and overall the reaction was pretty wishy-washy and weak. If I were Putin, and my long-term ambition were to (excuse my use of the phrase here) 'Make Russia Great Again', considering what I had to work with, I'd want to be doing things on the down-low, Cold War 2.0-style, too, just like he (apparently!) is doing.
Oh, I totally forgot about Syria, and North Korea, and (maybe?) Iran. "The enemy of my enemy(s) is my friend". None of the above like the U.S., and likely don't like NATO, all that much either. Make friends with the enemies of your enemies, do lots of favors for them -- all for 'future considerations', of course -- and then you'll have them in your back pocket later on, when things really start to heat up and you need allies in disparate places.
Now, not saying all this is going to work out for him. But he's working it as hard as he can, given what he's got to work with. Whether we (the U.S.), NATO, and the EU can pull themselves together or not is also up in the air currently.
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Until we have REAL AI, self-aware, capable of actual thought and real interaction with humans, and not the current dead-end approach ('learning algorithms', 'expert systems', etc) we will not have truly safe, effective self-driving cars -- and having these half-assed systems fully in control of a vehicle, with no possibility of humans taking control, we will have death and disaster. At best we'll have totally frustrating vehicles that stop for apparently no reason, while it 'phones home' so a human operator can remotely control it, which is also totally unacceptable. You can keep your so-called 'self driving cars', because I don't want to die. Furthermore we won't have REAL AI for a long time to come yet, if ever, because we have no idea how an actual brain is conscious, self-aware, and capable of true ability to think. It's all marketing hype and nonsense perpetuated by people who have no clue what's really going on, and they can keep it, I'd sooner WALK everywhere.
How about basing the value of an employee on something as radical as, say, how much the accomplish and the quality of their work? I know, I know, that's just crazy talk, right? I mean, who in their right mind would bother over trifles like what an employee actually gets done? LOL they must all be smarter than us, and watching us every single moment like we're convicts in prison or little children who have to be watched over is better.
When are people going to learn? Your privacy is worth something, and if you use so-called 'social media' and smartphones, you're giving that away for FREE to people and organizations that don't give two shits about what's good for you, only what makes them the most money. Nothing Facebook is 'giving' you is worth what you're giving up. Your 'smartphone' is just a mobile surveillance and data-collection platform, and you're paying through the nose to have one. Seriously, when are people going to wise up?
To be quite honest? Sounds like something idiots from 4chan/b/ would do.
The Internet has been twisted and subverted from being the font of information and a vastly useful tool for humanity in general, into something driven by greed and the very worst that humanity has to offer -- and there's many orders of magnitude more people in the world interested in keeping it that way (and making it more so) than there are people who want to fix the problems. As-is, the Internet may become something not worth having. At current you can ignore the worst of it, but if it reaches the point where the negativity and greed are pushing their way into everything, then it may be time to say good-bye to it.
Must be nice living in your perfect world, where everyone always plays by the rules, nobody ever has any ill intent towards anyone else for any reason whatsoever, and nothing ever goes wrong for anyone, anywhere, ever.
Of course if that's what someone actually believes, then they're very naive and are living in a fantasy world that does not and cannot exist. If there is a way for someone to game or otherwise bypass the system, be able to case someone's house, communicate what's good to steal to someone else, when no one is home, and have someone come and break in later and rob the place? They'll do it, because there's money to be made from crime.
The fact of the matter is, you're insane if you engage a 'service' like this one from Amazon. I can't imagine any sane person doing it, or if they are sane, again, they're horribly naive.
I understand that, but the subject we're discussing is not methods of bypassing audio DRM.
Things like this are a symptom of what's wrong with the entertainment industry: no new ideas. There's nothing to be done with a LotR weekly series; it's a complete story already, there's nothing more to be told that makes sense; it's beating a dead horse. /opinion
I completely agree. Don't even buy so-called 'smart TV' in the first place, and if you have no choice, don't ever connect it to the Internet, ever.
On the 'hipster' end of things, it's to record their vinyl records to, so they don't wear out the vinyl. That's the way it used to be done, and I have no reason to believe that it's any different now. Of course if it were I, and I was still buying vinyl records, which I'm not, I'd be digitizing the vinyl at a high sampling rate and greater than 16b per channel, and using that as a master for creating cassette tapes, and storing the vinyl in such a way that they'd be preserved as long as humanly possible.
Among other things, it's totally DRM-free; you can't copy protect a baseband audio cassette. Aside from that, the technology is mature and dirt cheap, and actually durable in many ways similar to a printed paper book. If an audio CD gets damaged, it may become totally unplayable; if an audio cassette gets damaged, it may still be playable, and may be repairable to the point of being 100% again. If the shells they're using are held together with screws then it's easy to change shells if they get damaged. If the tape itself gets a damaged section, that section can be cut out and the tape spliced, leaving >99.9% of the original content intact. Damaged tapes, if they can be made playable at least one more time, can be copied, yielding a lower quality end product, but one that is usable. Note that none of this is music to the ears of so-called 'audiophiles' who expect everything to sound like they're hearing it live. There's also the fact that making a 'mix tape' is relatively simple, needing only a playback deck and a record deck; no computer or software required, just time and patience. You can even record things off broadcast radio relatively simply, and 0.125" audio cassette tape has more than enough bandwidth for FM broadcast. Sure, it's not CD quality, not by a longshot, but if all you care about is hearing the music and being entertained by it, and not continually critiquing the quality of the recording, then it's not bad at all.
Watch their sales numbers plummet. :-)
Where is your 'adoption rate' now, Miscreant-o-soft?
1. I don't post anything relevant about my life here, I don't use my real name, and I don't have 'friends' or 'likes' or any of that shit. This is NOT 'social media', it is a 'news aggregation site with commenting'. If you're using it as 'social media' then I feel sorry for you.
2. Then they should boot Trump off. He's an embarassment to Twitter -- and the American people.
3. Trump is nothing but hate and lies, and likely a traitor. Don't like that I say that? Tough shit.
Planes flew well before we understood the exact air dynamics of bird and insect wings.
That's a purely physical effect and has no bearing whatsoever on the subject.
Also, an AI does not have to do all the same things as humans..
That's not the point. People and companies are EXPECTING it to -- and it WON'T. What we see right now with so-called 'self driving cars' for instance is corporations that invested many millions of dollars, thinking it was going to be a typical development cycle -- only to find it falling short, because it is a dead end. So do they take the loss and let the stockholders chop off their heads? Nope, marketing people, who understand things the LEAST of anyone, are hyping it and pushing it anyway. The media picks that up, hypes it more, because they're even LESS understanding of it. Finally average people, who know NOTHING, believe the hype, because that's what they're indoctrinated to do. So we have shitty 'self driving cars' that have to come to a complete stop and literally call a human remote operator to drive it over/around/through whatever it is that it's 'decision trees' can't handle. This is not real AI, it is a poor imitation of AI; it is a DEAD END technology that will NEVER work as advertised. So it goes with all this crap they're calling 'AI'. It might be able to handle simple things -- assuming it's been 'trained' (LOL, 'learning algorithms') for a million hours, but it'll always come up against something it can't handle because it can't THINK.
Call me when you have real AI. Oh yeah I'll probably be long since dead and fossilized by then.
Doesn't mean Trump won't tweet about how it's 'fake news' or 'fake facts' or 'they need to be fired' or writing up some bullshit Executive Order that declares the whole study and all the data to be false. I'm just waiting for that to happen. Or at the very least he'll order it all burned and ignorned and go on dragging us back to the 1950's.
The reason why you see so much of this nonsense is because it seems like 99% of everyone thinks that this thing they keep calling 'AI' is like what they see in movies and TV shows (conscious, self-aware, actually 'thinks', has a personality, etc) when in reality the family dog or cat is smarter than even the best of what they inaccurately call 'AI'. The current approach is a dead end technology; it won't yield a true mind, only a pale imitation that falls way short of the mark. We won't have real AI until we understand how a biological brain is capable of doing the things is does, and we're nowhere near that and won't be for quite some time yet.
There won't be any 'sputnik moment' because the current approach to what they're inaccurately referring to as 'artificial intelligence' is a dead end, it will never yield anything even so smart as your dog or cat, it will always fall short, because it will never be self-aware or capable of true cognition. The correct approach to AI will only be possible once we understand how a biological brain is capable of those things, and we're nowhere near beginning to figure that out, no matter what the undereducated fanbois on the Internet say about it.
Oh and by the way: The real hazard that so-called 'AI' poses is not it taking over, but people expecting way too much of it, and things getting mucked up when it fails to do as advertised.
From what I've heard (I don't use so-called 'social media' of any kind, not for at least 10 years now) Trump's account on Twitter should have been deleted a long time ago for violation of Terms of Service (hate speech, etc) and it certainly should be deleted now for posting 'fake news' and 'alternative facts' (read as: PROPAGANDA). Of course the downside to that would be the American people wouldn't have daily reminders of what a jackass he is, since he proves that on a daily (sometimes hourly) basis, with practically every single 'tweet'.
It's because management types are all-too-often paper-shufflers, bean-counters, and others with OCD tendencies, who do not know how to do the work themselves, all they're good at is micro-managing people, and their OCD tendencies mean they constantly feel like they're going to pee their pants if they can't physically see their direct reports (See what I did there? We're not 'people', we're just these objects called 'direct reports'. May as well call us 'work units' and stamp numbers on our foreheads) furiously slaving away. Doesn't matter to them at all if your own job entails shuffling papers around, or spending half the day on the phone in 'meetings', where nobody can see you anyway, they want to watch over you while you do it, because they're absolutely sure that somehow you're getting the work done without actually working, somehow.
There is one Internet, regardless of what computing device you use to access it.
Who the bloody hell wants to live forever, anyway? That would mean and eternity putting up with other people's shit that drives you more and more crazy decade after decade, except then it'd be forever. Quality of life > quantity of life.
If we'd taken that attitude in past decades instead of what we actually did, we'd all be speaking either German or Japanese by now. Bullshit attitude rejected. The world is now TOO SMALL to be isolationist, and it's far too late to just throw hands up and say "goodbye".
What I think we really need is better driver education/driver training, and reforms on driver testing -- more rigorous, and more often, to keep people on their toes and weed out the really bad ones, or at least force them to become competent. Just because you can pass a basic knowledge and skills test doesn't mean you're truly competent, all it means is you can pass a test. I actually fear for a future world where there's more technology, making people dumber and lazier and less competent when they really need to be, and I don't think so-called 'self driving cars' are the answer either.
You've pretty much beaten the guy up all by yourself so I'll leave that be, but I'd like to add:
Just because Putin/Russia isn't outwardly strong doesn't mean he can't be a troublemaker. What I see is Russia covertly influencing all sorts of things to destabilize NATO countries, NATO being the main roadblock to Putin invading other countries. We here in the U.S. sure feel 'destabilized', don't we? Did anyone think that Russian influence was because Putin like Trump or something? LOL no, the U.S. is one of the Big Dogs in NATO, and not only destabilizing us but also pissing off our allies and bringing our national reputation into question would go a long way towards destabilizing NATO in general. Then there's the UK and the BREXIT vote; I find the idea that there was Russian influences there, too, to be rather compelling, the UK being another Big Dog. I've gotten strange looks wondering out loud whether Russia has been helping to heat things up in Catalonia, but if you put it in this context is it really that far-fetched, considering that there was already bad blood between Spain and Catalonia in the first place? Then of course there's Crimea and Ukraine, which if I were Putin I'd not only want 'back in the fold', so-to-speak, but as a test case to see what sort of overall reaction from NATO and the EU he'd get for doing it -- and overall the reaction was pretty wishy-washy and weak. If I were Putin, and my long-term ambition were to (excuse my use of the phrase here) 'Make Russia Great Again', considering what I had to work with, I'd want to be doing things on the down-low, Cold War 2.0-style, too, just like he (apparently!) is doing.
Oh, I totally forgot about Syria, and North Korea, and (maybe?) Iran. "The enemy of my enemy(s) is my friend". None of the above like the U.S., and likely don't like NATO, all that much either. Make friends with the enemies of your enemies, do lots of favors for them -- all for 'future considerations', of course -- and then you'll have them in your back pocket later on, when things really start to heat up and you need allies in disparate places.
Now, not saying all this is going to work out for him. But he's working it as hard as he can, given what he's got to work with. Whether we (the U.S.), NATO, and the EU can pull themselves together or not is also up in the air currently.
Seems cheaper to create an enclosed room on the 29th floor where smokers can get their fix in 5 minutes instead of 15 minutes.
with blackjack and slots.
You forgot the hookers and cocaine.