Yes, but are you aware that the resolution of a movie theatre screen is more than 1080 (4K at least, if I'm not mistaken)? And that there are way more than 6 channels of sound? Even if you manage to have a 4K TV and 4K Bluray it's still not the same experience because you don't have a huge screen. You can make all the arguments you want but movie theatre presentation is still objectively better than what you can do at home, regardless of your personal feelings about it. Again: that's what I pay $12 for, seeing a new movie in the way it was intended to be seen.
Do you have a television at home that is 20 to 50 feet wide? No? Do you have a few dozen speakers spread around your viewing room? No? Then you don't get the 'same experience at home'. That's what you pay your $12 for.
To be fair I only go to the movies a few times a year. Most things I'll wait for it to come out on disc and watch it at home. But it's worth it to me those few times.
I wouldn't take one if you gave it to me with free connectivity for life, or any other smartphone for that matter. If I want to be monitored 24/7/365, I'll go rob a bank and kill people so I get put in prison for the rest of my life. At least then I'll know for sure I'm being watched instead of having to wonder about it.
I was going to ask the same question, also thinking that a photon does not qualify as an 'object' either; story is nigh-unto clickbait for that reason.
It's slowly happening, like I feared it would, and none of you believed me.
Why install messy and complicated 'linux' when you can get the look and feel within your nice, safe, compatible Windows computer? Silly Linux!
None of the power of Linux and none of the respect for your privacy. Sandboxing Linux under Windows instead of the other way around like it should be. Screw that.
Even the current moviehouse 3D technology isn't all that great if you ask me. The last 3D movie I saw was Avatar, and my reaction to it was "..gee, that's kinda interesting" but nothing more enthusiastic than that; I'm not willing to pay the extra couple bucks to see a movie in 3D. I work somewhere where 3D TV was part of our graphics card driver validation process, and that was even worse: It was like cardboard cutouts being moved on top of or behind each other.
Paying cash is simply not practical, simply not possible in some cases, and not very safe.
"Not very safe"? You're not the only person in this discussion who has said that, and I'm completely puzzled as to who it is that made you believe cash is 'unsafe' to carry around, and/or where it is you live or walk that you're so damned afraid of getting mugged? Yet you say I'm being 'irrational' about using plastic everywhere?
Let me tell you something: I've been on cash for day-to-day purchases for about THREE WEEKS now. Why? Because every week there's another report of some data breach somewhere. One of them recently was a bunch of Chipotle restaurants, two of which I visited several times during when their payment systems were compromised. I felt the need to get a new card and the old one invalidated. How many more times do you need a bullet to just barely miss you before you decide to do something about it? I don't have time or money to worry about 'filing claims' or 'disputes' because someone hacked into somewhere and stole access to my money, turning my life upside down. Who does? Nobody I know has time or money for that. Why continue to take unnecessary risks when it's just as easy to not take the risks at all?
RE: "Rewards": Someone else brought that up. There isn't enough they could PAY me for the very personally-identifiable data they get from scraping my use of plastic. Do you like your life being an open book to whoever has the money to purchase the data? I don't.
The Internet is getting more and more unsafe. You're telling me I'm being 'irraitional'; I maintain that I'm responding in a proactive and reasonable manner to protect myself. I'm closing the barn door before the horse gets out. If and when more robust security measures are taken, that might change. But for the time being I see no reason why I should do nothing and take my chances of getting accounts drained and/or identity stolen.
"Carrying cash being bulky": I don't sweat that at all.
"3-4 credit cards": I have ONE and I wish I didn't even have that, but having no credit history bites you in the ass later.
"Transaction history": This is INVASIVE to my privacy. I don't need or want it.
"Disputes being easy": If I don't use plastic all the time I don't need to worry about that AT ALL now do I?
"Cash 'rewards'": They can't offer me enough to compensate me for the invasion of my privacy.
"Cards accepted world over": I don't care. I don't travel. If I did I'd get a prepaid card to use.
"Being OK with your privacy being invaded; targeted ads": I'm NOT OK with my privacy being violated, and I HATE ads being injected into everything, don't want anything 'targeted' at me anyway. I buy what I buy when I need to buy it and ads don't sway me anyway.
You're living in a totally different reality from me. You probably use Facebook, Twitter, and other so-called 'social media' sites. You probably have an Amazon Echo or Googles equivalent and are only 'slightly bothered' by the fact it may be listeining in on everything you're doing and sending that to someone else for review. You probably have a 'smart TV' and are only slightly bothered by the fact that it's collecting data on your viewing habits. Your entire life is an open book to anyone with the money to pay these corporations for your very personally-identifiable data, and you're only 'slightly bothered' by that revelation, too. Meanwhile I eschew all the above entirely because I value my privacy and wish to preserve it, and reclaim as much of it as I can. Being as cognizant as possible of how much I'm exposing myself to risk of fraud or theft when paying for anything electronically is part and participle of that. The rest of it (not using social media, etc) is just along the same lines.
As you say it's all about 'what people are comfortable with'. What I have to say to you on this subject is: "Don't let yourself get too comfortable, it'll very likely come back to bite you in the ass later on".
You can't even spell the guys name right, why should anyone listen to you?
I'm sure Russias legions of state-sponsored hackers would be very interested in your opinion that they can 'easily become a thousand rotting or burned corpse in a ditch', so interested in fact that they'd turn your life into a 'rotting, burned corpse in a (virtual) ditch', draining your accounts, ruining your credit, pissing off everyone you know to the point where they won't even talk to you, planting child porn on your computer and/or phone then calling in an anonymous tip about you being a pedophile, then just for the lolz, hacking your car so you crash into a large stationary object at high speed.
Yeah, because Bashar al-Assad has such a bright, wonderful reputation with the rest of the world right now, or did you not understand what I said above? You don't win Hearts and Minds by slaughtering your citizens, and so far as I'm concerned any regime that rules through fear, intimidation, and violence is going to eventually be overthrown, and when it happens there'll likely be all sorts of support, clandestine if not outright, from all quarters.
China is playing an open-ended game of Whack-a-Mole with it's citizens, with the global Internet as the venue. It's obvious that Chinese citizens want free and unfettered access to the Internet and all the information on it. The communist Chinese government can keep trying to deny them, but just like with copy protection schemes, DRM, and all other censorship-like things, people will find a way around it.
Memo to Communist Chinese government: You can't stop the signal. You're going to fail; it's inevitable. Why not give up now, and stop oppressing your people? When the revolution comes, are you going to change, or are you going to fight the future, and go the way of Bashar al-Assad and start slaughtering your own people en masse? It's up to you how History will view you, China. Choose wisely.
Guess I'm going to prison when they do that, then. Or more likely they'll have to shoot me dead because I'd rather barricade myself inside my house and make them kill me rather than surrender the privacy of where I live to faceless corporations spying on me 24/7/365. Screw that.
Hey there Bob, nice computer you have there, running our Windows 10. Would be a shame if something.. happened to it, now wouldn't it? Oh by the way we're doubling our subscription fee starting next month, just so you know..
..or did that scenario not occur to you? How would it make you feel, if your computer refused to boot one day, instead displaying a message from Miscreant-o-soft, demanding additional payments from you? Pretty shitty, I'd hope. That's what we're fighting against, at all costs. Personally if it was a choice between Miscreant-o-soft and no computer at all, I'd go with no computer. Luckily there's myriad flavors of Linux out there so there's still choice. Otherwise Microsoft is leaning in the direction of not being much better than ransomware authors.
I second the motion. It's bad enough that they violate peoples privacy constantly, treat the computer people own as if it's Microsoft property, and otherwise are shitty, but now they want you to PAY every MONTH? LOL, no, you'd have to be stupid to do that.
Yeah? Let me tell you something your rampant credit card use is doing that you never considered: You are providing ALL SORTS of personally identifiable information to credit card companies, retailers, and whoever else can get their hands on it, about how you conduct your life, what you spend your money on, and they are creating a more perfect profile of you with that. Are you enjoying having your privacy invaded like that?
That's the other part of this I never mentioned: I can preserve more of my privacy by paying CASH for things I buy in person anyway.
There is little risk to my carrying up to a couple hundred bucks in my wallet, less than having a mound of receipts every week from dozens of EFTs at terminals that may be compromised. I don't know where some of you live or where you go that you worry so much about someone mugging you, but I don't go ANYWHERE that I have to worry about that; I'm not in the least concerned, and I assure you: I am probably more personal-security conscious than any of you who seem to think you need to counsel me on that subject. Thanks for the 'advice', but in the current socio-political-technical climate of this planet, using plastic for everything is becoming more and more of a risk factor, and curtailing it's use as much as possible seems to be the only sensible option, rather than trusting in 'security through obscurity' or nebulous promises from financial institutions. My philosophy is one of self-reliance, and in part that means taking responsibility for myself and my own security FIRST, not delegating that to people or organizations I can't vouch for, regardless of laws, promises, or 'popular opinion'.
Further, I always follow up to make sure the ACH payments I authorized match the debit records that have since appeared on my account.
Gee, that sure sounds an awful lot like balancing a checkbook to me! xD
You're living in a different reality than I am is what's going on here. I don't live on credit cards like some of you seem to be doing, I pay MONEY for things one way or another. I'm just changing how I pay that money out. Your advice, like your lifestyle, doesn't apply to me. Thanks for playing anyway.
Your points are all good, but I was just pointing out that there is some type of risk is every (in)action. If you want to restrict the type of risk to financial loss, someone else mentioned getting robbed while carrying around a lot of cash to pay bills in person. Online payment via your bank and using a credit card (online and in person) are much safer payment options.
I am not paying 'bills' in person currently, I pay for everything else that I'd buy in person anyway, with cash, not plastic.
I do not go anywhere that I have to worry about being mugged so that's not a concern. It's less safe for CRIMINALS to mug you than it is for them to hack your bank account.
I would prefer to AVOID paying for anything at all online anymore. In some cases won't be able to avoid it. Paying utility bills with a mailed check is no more secure than paying online because they all process checks electronically anyway, not hand-carry them to the bank to deposit.
I may get a pre-paid, rechargeable card, and use that for utility bills and intermittent online purchases, putting on it only what is necessary to pay the utilities or purchases with. If it gets compromised then it gets deactivated and destroyed, replaced with a different one.
All these changes are happening incrementally, as I determine the best course of action.
Nope. You seem to have missed where I said they charge for that service, which makes it a non-starter all by itself. I like my credit union, but that doesn't mean I'm so in love with them that I'll pay for unnecessary services that don't really do what I want it to do anyway. When I pay something I need a guarantee that it'll get there when I say it'll get there, not when someone else 'gets around to it'.
From the What-Could-Possibly-Go-Wrong department: Who the bloody HELL knows what's actually in that landfill? We've been here before, whether anyone remembers it or not, and I'll tell you this much: I wouldn't live there if you PAID me ON TOP OF free rent for life. Stupid idea.
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You mean like how they perpetually misuse the term 'Artificial Intelligence'?
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Yes, but are you aware that the resolution of a movie theatre screen is more than 1080 (4K at least, if I'm not mistaken)? And that there are way more than 6 channels of sound? Even if you manage to have a 4K TV and 4K Bluray it's still not the same experience because you don't have a huge screen. You can make all the arguments you want but movie theatre presentation is still objectively better than what you can do at home, regardless of your personal feelings about it. Again: that's what I pay $12 for, seeing a new movie in the way it was intended to be seen.
Do you have a television at home that is 20 to 50 feet wide? No? Do you have a few dozen speakers spread around your viewing room? No? Then you don't get the 'same experience at home'. That's what you pay your $12 for.
To be fair I only go to the movies a few times a year. Most things I'll wait for it to come out on disc and watch it at home. But it's worth it to me those few times.
I wouldn't take one if you gave it to me with free connectivity for life, or any other smartphone for that matter. If I want to be monitored 24/7/365, I'll go rob a bank and kill people so I get put in prison for the rest of my life. At least then I'll know for sure I'm being watched instead of having to wonder about it.
I was going to ask the same question, also thinking that a photon does not qualify as an 'object' either; story is nigh-unto clickbait for that reason.
I go to see a movie in a theatre for the MOVIE. if it has to have 3D to work then it's not a very good movie and I don't need to see it.
Why install messy and complicated 'linux' when you can get the look and feel within your nice, safe, compatible Windows computer? Silly Linux!
None of the power of Linux and none of the respect for your privacy. Sandboxing Linux under Windows instead of the other way around like it should be. Screw that.
Even the current moviehouse 3D technology isn't all that great if you ask me. The last 3D movie I saw was Avatar, and my reaction to it was "..gee, that's kinda interesting" but nothing more enthusiastic than that; I'm not willing to pay the extra couple bucks to see a movie in 3D. I work somewhere where 3D TV was part of our graphics card driver validation process, and that was even worse: It was like cardboard cutouts being moved on top of or behind each other.
it's not suitable for my purposes therefore I'm not using it.
Paying cash is simply not practical, simply not possible in some cases, and not very safe.
"Not very safe"? You're not the only person in this discussion who has said that, and I'm completely puzzled as to who it is that made you believe cash is 'unsafe' to carry around, and/or where it is you live or walk that you're so damned afraid of getting mugged? Yet you say I'm being 'irrational' about using plastic everywhere?
Let me tell you something: I've been on cash for day-to-day purchases for about THREE WEEKS now. Why? Because every week there's another report of some data breach somewhere. One of them recently was a bunch of Chipotle restaurants, two of which I visited several times during when their payment systems were compromised. I felt the need to get a new card and the old one invalidated. How many more times do you need a bullet to just barely miss you before you decide to do something about it? I don't have time or money to worry about 'filing claims' or 'disputes' because someone hacked into somewhere and stole access to my money, turning my life upside down. Who does? Nobody I know has time or money for that. Why continue to take unnecessary risks when it's just as easy to not take the risks at all?
RE: "Rewards": Someone else brought that up. There isn't enough they could PAY me for the very personally-identifiable data they get from scraping my use of plastic. Do you like your life being an open book to whoever has the money to purchase the data? I don't.
The Internet is getting more and more unsafe. You're telling me I'm being 'irraitional'; I maintain that I'm responding in a proactive and reasonable manner to protect myself. I'm closing the barn door before the horse gets out. If and when more robust security measures are taken, that might change. But for the time being I see no reason why I should do nothing and take my chances of getting accounts drained and/or identity stolen.
"Carrying cash being bulky": I don't sweat that at all.
"3-4 credit cards": I have ONE and I wish I didn't even have that, but having no credit history bites you in the ass later.
"Transaction history": This is INVASIVE to my privacy. I don't need or want it.
"Disputes being easy": If I don't use plastic all the time I don't need to worry about that AT ALL now do I?
"Cash 'rewards'": They can't offer me enough to compensate me for the invasion of my privacy.
"Cards accepted world over": I don't care. I don't travel. If I did I'd get a prepaid card to use.
"Being OK with your privacy being invaded; targeted ads": I'm NOT OK with my privacy being violated, and I HATE ads being injected into everything, don't want anything 'targeted' at me anyway. I buy what I buy when I need to buy it and ads don't sway me anyway.
You're living in a totally different reality from me. You probably use Facebook, Twitter, and other so-called 'social media' sites. You probably have an Amazon Echo or Googles equivalent and are only 'slightly bothered' by the fact it may be listeining in on everything you're doing and sending that to someone else for review. You probably have a 'smart TV' and are only slightly bothered by the fact that it's collecting data on your viewing habits. Your entire life is an open book to anyone with the money to pay these corporations for your very personally-identifiable data, and you're only 'slightly bothered' by that revelation, too. Meanwhile I eschew all the above entirely because I value my privacy and wish to preserve it, and reclaim as much of it as I can. Being as cognizant as possible of how much I'm exposing myself to risk of fraud or theft when paying for anything electronically is part and participle of that. The rest of it (not using social media, etc) is just along the same lines.
As you say it's all about 'what people are comfortable with'. What I have to say to you on this subject is: "Don't let yourself get too comfortable, it'll very likely come back to bite you in the ass later on".
You can't even spell the guys name right, why should anyone listen to you?
I'm sure Russias legions of state-sponsored hackers would be very interested in your opinion that they can 'easily become a thousand rotting or burned corpse in a ditch', so interested in fact that they'd turn your life into a 'rotting, burned corpse in a (virtual) ditch', draining your accounts, ruining your credit, pissing off everyone you know to the point where they won't even talk to you, planting child porn on your computer and/or phone then calling in an anonymous tip about you being a pedophile, then just for the lolz, hacking your car so you crash into a large stationary object at high speed.
Yeah, because Bashar al-Assad has such a bright, wonderful reputation with the rest of the world right now, or did you not understand what I said above? You don't win Hearts and Minds by slaughtering your citizens, and so far as I'm concerned any regime that rules through fear, intimidation, and violence is going to eventually be overthrown, and when it happens there'll likely be all sorts of support, clandestine if not outright, from all quarters.
President Xi should study his people's history. Every dynasty eventually loses the 'mandate of heaven'.
Exactly my point.
They very obviously want to tap in to all business communications as well, so much the easier to steal industrial secrets.
China is playing an open-ended game of Whack-a-Mole with it's citizens, with the global Internet as the venue. It's obvious that Chinese citizens want free and unfettered access to the Internet and all the information on it. The communist Chinese government can keep trying to deny them, but just like with copy protection schemes, DRM, and all other censorship-like things, people will find a way around it.
Memo to Communist Chinese government: You can't stop the signal. You're going to fail; it's inevitable. Why not give up now, and stop oppressing your people? When the revolution comes, are you going to change, or are you going to fight the future, and go the way of Bashar al-Assad and start slaughtering your own people en masse? It's up to you how History will view you, China. Choose wisely.
Guess I'm going to prison when they do that, then. Or more likely they'll have to shoot me dead because I'd rather barricade myself inside my house and make them kill me rather than surrender the privacy of where I live to faceless corporations spying on me 24/7/365. Screw that.
Hey there Bob, nice computer you have there, running our Windows 10. Would be a shame if something.. happened to it, now wouldn't it? Oh by the way we're doubling our subscription fee starting next month, just so you know..
..or did that scenario not occur to you? How would it make you feel, if your computer refused to boot one day, instead displaying a message from Miscreant-o-soft, demanding additional payments from you? Pretty shitty, I'd hope. That's what we're fighting against, at all costs. Personally if it was a choice between Miscreant-o-soft and no computer at all, I'd go with no computer. Luckily there's myriad flavors of Linux out there so there's still choice. Otherwise Microsoft is leaning in the direction of not being much better than ransomware authors.
I second the motion. It's bad enough that they violate peoples privacy constantly, treat the computer people own as if it's Microsoft property, and otherwise are shitty, but now they want you to PAY every MONTH? LOL, no, you'd have to be stupid to do that.
Yeah? Let me tell you something your rampant credit card use is doing that you never considered: You are providing ALL SORTS of personally identifiable information to credit card companies, retailers, and whoever else can get their hands on it, about how you conduct your life, what you spend your money on, and they are creating a more perfect profile of you with that. Are you enjoying having your privacy invaded like that?
That's the other part of this I never mentioned: I can preserve more of my privacy by paying CASH for things I buy in person anyway.
There is little risk to my carrying up to a couple hundred bucks in my wallet, less than having a mound of receipts every week from dozens of EFTs at terminals that may be compromised. I don't know where some of you live or where you go that you worry so much about someone mugging you, but I don't go ANYWHERE that I have to worry about that; I'm not in the least concerned, and I assure you: I am probably more personal-security conscious than any of you who seem to think you need to counsel me on that subject. Thanks for the 'advice', but in the current socio-political-technical climate of this planet, using plastic for everything is becoming more and more of a risk factor, and curtailing it's use as much as possible seems to be the only sensible option, rather than trusting in 'security through obscurity' or nebulous promises from financial institutions. My philosophy is one of self-reliance, and in part that means taking responsibility for myself and my own security FIRST, not delegating that to people or organizations I can't vouch for, regardless of laws, promises, or 'popular opinion'.
Further, I always follow up to make sure the ACH payments I authorized match the debit records that have since appeared on my account.
Gee, that sure sounds an awful lot like balancing a checkbook to me! xD
You're living in a different reality than I am is what's going on here. I don't live on credit cards like some of you seem to be doing, I pay MONEY for things one way or another. I'm just changing how I pay that money out. Your advice, like your lifestyle, doesn't apply to me. Thanks for playing anyway.
Your points are all good, but I was just pointing out that there is some type of risk is every (in)action. If you want to restrict the type of risk to financial loss, someone else mentioned getting robbed while carrying around a lot of cash to pay bills in person. Online payment via your bank and using a credit card (online and in person) are much safer payment options.
I am not paying 'bills' in person currently, I pay for everything else that I'd buy in person anyway, with cash, not plastic.
I do not go anywhere that I have to worry about being mugged so that's not a concern. It's less safe for CRIMINALS to mug you than it is for them to hack your bank account.
I would prefer to AVOID paying for anything at all online anymore. In some cases won't be able to avoid it. Paying utility bills with a mailed check is no more secure than paying online because they all process checks electronically anyway, not hand-carry them to the bank to deposit.
I may get a pre-paid, rechargeable card, and use that for utility bills and intermittent online purchases, putting on it only what is necessary to pay the utilities or purchases with. If it gets compromised then it gets deactivated and destroyed, replaced with a different one.
All these changes are happening incrementally, as I determine the best course of action.
Nope. You seem to have missed where I said they charge for that service, which makes it a non-starter all by itself. I like my credit union, but that doesn't mean I'm so in love with them that I'll pay for unnecessary services that don't really do what I want it to do anyway. When I pay something I need a guarantee that it'll get there when I say it'll get there, not when someone else 'gets around to it'.
From the What-Could-Possibly-Go-Wrong department: Who the bloody HELL knows what's actually in that landfill? We've been here before, whether anyone remembers it or not, and I'll tell you this much: I wouldn't live there if you PAID me ON TOP OF free rent for life. Stupid idea.
They're not a group of rich old white men, so they'll be ignored as per policy in the current administration.