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Would You Buy the iPhone 8 If It Cost $1,200? (9to5mac.com)
As we near the launch of the next iPhone, rumors are swirling about what it may feature. One of the most recent reports comes from developer and blogger John Gruber, who claims the iPhone 8 will have a starting price of around $1200. 9to5Mac reports: He last week said that he believed that what we've been referring to as the iPhone 8 would be called the iPhone Pro and that he actually hoped it would be really expensive: "I hope the iPhone Pro starts at $1500 or higher. I'd like to see what Apple can do in a phone with a higher price." As you might imagine, that generated quite a bit of discussion. Gruber has backed down somewhat from this position, and is now suggesting a starting point of around $1200: "$1,500 as a starting price is probably way too high. But I think $1,200 is quite likely as the starting price, with the high-end model at $1,300 or $1,400." His argument is effectively that Apple is constrained in what it can do in a phone because any technology included in the phone has to be available in huge volumes. If it were willing to sell fewer at a higher price, then it would have more options. There has been speculation that Gruber may have been tipped by Apple, and using his posts to prepare the ground for what would otherwise be a severe case of sticker shock. But Gruber denied this. If Apple does launch the iPhone 8 with a 4-figure price tag, would you buy it?
But I wouldn't be surprised if the legions of apple fans would pay nearly any amount for one.
Betteridge's law of headlines is true!
Problem with apple products is not product cost itself.
Problem is: Phone costs 800$, extra charger in apple store costs 150$.
I wouldn't even buy an iPhone if it cost $200. I picked up a moto G 2nd edition for $100 when they were selling off the last stock of that model. Have had it for a couple of years now and still really happy with it. I don't need or want a fancy phone.
This is really how they do it every time right?
1. some third party posts a message about an insanely high price for a commodity device
2. it gets spread as there are lots of opinions on both for/against sides
3. official announcement gets made, price is still insanely high but less than the initial rumor
4. people were already (unconsciously) mentally preparing for the initial price, the still exorbitant one now seems more attractive
5. profit!
It's a phone. Technology is moving at ultrabreakneck speed. Every 2-3 years there are compelling reasons to change. A good (reliable, fast) middle-range phone should be around 200-250EUR.
Don't give in to the crazyness (I just did with my above paragraph..).
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Seems wiser to stick to a cellular phone which the foolish call "dumb". ;)
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I wouldn't buy it at $200, why would I buy it at $1,200?
The current iPhone profit margin is already obscene: https://www.google.com/amp/amp.timeinc.net/time/money/4508221/iphone-7-mark-up-profit-margins/
It's reasonable to assume Apple will use the same math for a $1,200 iPhone, meaning you'll get $400 worth of crap in your $1,200 sack of shit.
"Would You Buy the iPhone 8 If It Cost $1,200? " ...and they were much less powerful then.
Sure!
I bought a PC when it cost 10.000$, when it cost 5000$ when it cost 2000$
No, I would not buy the iPhone.
If it had some amazing must-have feature to justify the price tag then yes. But if it's just a faster version of the current-gen phones with no major features then no, who cares.
Not a hope in hell. being locked down in their ecosystem negates the value of any significant premium hardware increases. besides which unless they have worked out something amazing in battery, holographics or such I personally can't think of much that could even be all that interesting hardware wise, gimmicky 3D or VR maybe but that would be a death sentence just like it was for 3D TV's and looking that way for VR headsets too . I don't need smaller or lighter, CPU, memory, storage, graphics are all more than adequate in most top end phones, really getting like PC's a little now where you can work quite happily on older hardware as long as it is still supported with updates.
If I buy something does not solely depend on the price. It also depends on the value I get from the item.
So when asking the question, you should ask "Are those features worth X".
I haven't seen the final list for the next iPhone yet. So I cannot say yet if it will be worth Y dollars.
In the past, the iPhones I bought were worth every penny I paid. But be aware: the value may depend on your needs. So what may be true for me, must not be true for everyone else.
The iPhone is not made to last, the battery cannot be replaced, it cannot be opened by a normal person and be repaired or upgraded. Apps are not better, they are made to run swiftly on older versions. You are just buying a phone with next year's specs, and after that it's just like any old phone, which will scratch, which battery will fail, which will become slower and slower. So: No.
Under calculus you can make the maximum profit selling many for a small price or a few for a large price.
However, if you are seeking market space penetration, you need to sell many. For $1200 I can buy many Android phones.
But still a bit too expensive for that
Money isn't the issue. It took me 10 years to find my perfect headphones and I don't want wireless and so don't want a dongle. Otherwise, I'll simply buy iPhone 6S Pluses off of eBay.
Nope!
In New Zealand $1199.00 gets you an iPhone 6+ - https://www.apple.com/nz/shop/buy-iphone/iphone6s#01,10
If you want to convert USD1200 to NZD1650 then you're considering purchasing an iPhone 7+ 128GB - https://www.apple.com/nz/shop/buy-iphone/iphone-7#01,10
That's what life is like when you purchase your own handset.
I honestly would if it could replace my laptop. Mobile Phones nowadays are perfectly able to do so, the only thing they lack is a screen and a battery. I am looking forward to a laptop that can detach and become a phone. We already have tablet/laptop hybrids, phone/laptop hybrids are just the next step.
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An iPhone 7 in Australia can already be close to $1600 (256 GB) so iPhone 8 isn't going to be any less..
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Since that's cheaper than the iPhone 7+, which I already purchased, I don't see a problem.
"I'd like to see what Apple can do in a phone with a higher price."
Remove even more ports?
Is the summary correct, is he claiming that you can do "more" if you don't mass produce something??? If Apple wanted to add some more exotic technology, they could simply lower their industry leading profit margin and instead of selling a $220 device for $650 they could sell a $400-$500 device for $800 or something like that.
To answer the question, I only have an iPhone (6 Plus) because my work provides it for development and although I am free to use it as a personal phone, I prefer a $200 Xiaomi Mi5 as it can do so much more. And Android is by far not my ideal mobile OS either (I still miss my Maemo/Meego N9 - damn you Stephen Elop for burying it), but I still find an Android phone more useful than an iOS one, even if I get the latter for free. So, no, $1200 would make it even more unlikely for me to get an iPhone. Which is a shame, as the apps that exist for both iOS and Android are most of the time better on iOS (for rather obvious - to devs at least - reasons), but there are many things you simply cannot do.
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Of course people will buy it. This is part of the strategy. The iPhone is even more special when not everyone can afford it. Myself? I wouldn't buy it for half that price.
The 256 GB iPhone 7 Plus costs $969.
Starting at $1200 would be insane, but a Pro model for high-end users might work.
That's it!
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Next question.
I wouldn't buy it for any price, really. It isn't the functionality or the hardware, but the fact that you are tied into only ever using Apple's app store etc etc - plus the fact that you have to actually BUY the development tools and learn yet another languages, when the Android comes without the same degree of tie-in, plus you can download the whole development kit for free and it is Java, a language that actually has applications outside the phone. In a way, it isn't the iPhone that I don't want, it is Apple.
I will spend another year with my iphone 6
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If it came in the size of the 5/SE, then hell yeah!
The dollar at rest is worthless; something unchanged regardless of buyer or seller. Determining fair weight and measure with a resting dollar lacking a spine is an exercise best left to divination, eventually finding faith in nothing. Technology is practically divine when used to amplify economies. It's a curse when used as a lever to further the local maximum at the detriment of the global minimum. Regardless of the fictitious entity, all participants are complicit in lowering the standard while calling it innovation, when we're encouraged to think non-deterministically without sane inputs.
Most people in the world cannot in any way afford anything like $1,200 for a phone. A $100 phone is expensive! ... it's only the massively unequal distribution of wealth (within the US but perhaps more importantly among different countries in the world) that even allows for such a preposterous idea to be suggested.
You rich people just go on and enjoy your gold-plated faucets and $1,200 phones and whatever though.
Personally I wouldn't buy an iPhone for 1/3rd of that price. A better question is: If you bought an iPhone at $600 would you buy one for $1200.
Main feature of an iPhone is to show you are able to pay it. Being more expensive make it more desireable. If you need to spend a few hundreds dollard to show you belong to the right class, an iPhone is more efficient than a luxury watch people used to buy twenty years ago. You can call it signalling cost. (and it also gives the time.)
On top of features, I would add: how long can the user reasonably expect to keep their device, which depends on several factors. Is the user likely to switch service provider (because they move, get better coverage, get a better deal, etc.) and would the device support the new set of radio frequencies? How durable is the device and can it be repaired (broken screen, etc.)? Given the user’s circumstances, how high are the risks that they could break or lose the device, and how well could they stomach a possible loss? Etc.
Although I am sure the hardcore apple fanboys will sell their kidneys for new digital nonsense ... my iphone6 working great ... ultra easy to change digitizer when it breaks and there is absolutely nothing i would ever need from a newer one... and, I do have a headphone jack! so i am not locked into playing inferior bt format music...
... like making me fly, giving me the body of a well-trained Ryan Gosling and making all good looking girls wanting to have sex with me I would consider buying it for that price.
Other than that: No.
Just got a Moto G5 Plus. Still a compromise. I wanted a 6"+ phablet with massive battery live, rugged case, stock android and uncastrated memory. Huawei Mate 9 and Xiaomi Mi Max came resonably close to those specs but I steered clear for various resons. The Moto G5 Plus but it's the best compromise. 32GB storage, 3GB RAM, good camera, near stock android. Common and as such cases and protective glas easyly available. 280 Euros. Close to the maximum I'm willing to spend on a smartphone. I would've stuck with my Moto G2, but it only has 8GB memory - which is a drag.
Given that, at the current rate, I replace my phone roughly every 3 years spending 1200€ would be a waste of money.
My 2 eurocents.
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Apple fans are mostly buying products for the same reason people buy expensive designer clothes. I can't see a really high price tag deterring many people who would have been planning to buy it. I know some Apple/IOS fans really do buy their products for functionality reasons but I really doubt this number is very high.
I would not like it here or there.
I would not like it anywhere.
I do not like the iPhone look
I do not like it, Timmy Cook.
(and yes, that third line works better with Macbook, but sadly they didn't bring out a new model in the past decade and I grew tired waiting for it)
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Nobody has seen an iPhone 8. Nobody knows what it does. Therefore nobody knows what it would be worth.
Asking me if I would pay $1,200 for a phone, when I have never seen it, when I have never used it, when nobody can tell me what it does? That's a nonsense question.
Buy anything if it is shiney and made by apple
I might consider one for $100 though.
I can get pretty much any phone for a dollar if I get a new mobile contract.
How does contract costs change if you get it without phone? Isn't it just a hidden leasing?
Of course not. This "Pro" tag is crap, so is becoming Apple. Seriously, all this "Pro" stuff is for stupid people who pays a lot for having less: less repairability, less ports, less battery, less power, less guarantees, less rights. The lower is the value, the higher is the price: this is the Apple philosophy. Probably a market share drop of iPhones will destroy their ecosystem, so they're playing a dangerous game.
The solution: remove Tim Cook and give Apple back to someone who cares about design, real features and real technology.
iPhone 9 will be $2000.
Even if apple were to give me the next iPhone for free, or pay me $1,200 to take it, I wouldn't. I never really liked the iPhone. I never really liked apple products. Well, mainly apple OSs - their choice of hardware is normally pretty good, even if it if overpriced.
That said, I'd have to seriously consider paying out that amount of money for an Android phone. In the past I've paid around $800, and that was also a fairly serious consideration. Having paid out that amount, I expect the phone to last me many years before I need to upgrade. The hardware is still good and I've no issues there -- however, if I want Android O then I'll need a new phone. If I had to pay $1,200 or more, I would expect it to last several more years, and for the OS to be upgraded for many more years. And that's probably not likely for either OS.
apple do have a better track record for updating old devices, so apple people may be more likely to pay out that amount. Plus, historically, apple people have been more inclined to pay bigger bucks for the devices -- even to the point of selling a kidney to get one. So I'd almost wager that they could set any price on it and the majority would pay it to upgrade -- even if this year's model was only a minor improvement over last year's. The iPhone could end up being a textbook case of a Giffen good (where demand rises with price).
I'm reminded of a story, but I can't find it online, where a shop owner asked the assistant to mark down several ugly statues from $15 to $10 in order to sell them out. The assistant made a mistake and priced them all at $100, and they all sold out that day. Many people will associate higher prices with a better product, and will see identical products differently depending on the price.
One for people who aren't handy with tech (i.e. 'just works' through lifetime, no maintenance software or otherwise), durable to being dropped hard, which isn't too noticeably inferior to latest iPhone's? (I guess mainly memory wise, for the apps...)
I wouldn't even pay for an iphone, if it had a 3-figure price tag...
Sorry to have a go at you mate, but your comment, whilst erudite and intellectual (as clearly intended), is also unnecessarily verbose and cumbersome.
You seem concerned about the productivity benefits of the new phone. Might I suggest the increased productivity benefits of you applying the KISS principle to your comments?!
To summarise (assuming that I understood what you were getting at), you are saying that the increased price must be matched by increases in productivity, or the money is better invested elsewhere. You also believe that without details about the new phone, it isn't possible to make this comparison, and so any discussion about the price being justified is meaningless.
Perhaps you are right. However, there is also value in enjoyment of the phone, which you appear to be ignoring. It is the combination of both of these, as well as the ability to pay, which justifies the purchase over spending the money elsewhere.
Seriously, if you're on this site you should be nerdy enough to be a well paid IT professional that could easily afford it, no need to go dumpster diving for phones. If you're not, maybe you should be soul searching a bit about why. Personally I never felt the need to get hacking on/from my phone, that's what my computer is for but if you want to go all CyanogenMod that's okay. But I got an iPhone SE and feel it was totally worth the money. That said, for $1200 it would have to do something new and amazing. But then again that's the premise, would you buy a $1200 phone if it did something revolutionary new and amazing. I'm surprised at the level of ludditism here where you don't know what it is, but you're damn sure you don't want it.
Same thing when RED announced their phone, it sounded like a producer of high end movie cameras with quite possibly the best sensor technology in the world was pulling a Kickstarter scam or something. Is it expensive? Is it possibly a ridiculously stupid business idea? Yes, but three cheers for the guy who wants to build a billion dollar rocket to fly to Mars because that's cool. No way the next great thing could be in your pocket. My biggest doubt though is that the phone is something I carry almost 24x7x365, it goes everywhere and it's not always treated nice. It gets battered and bruised so much it'll probably have to be replaced every so often no matter what so that $1200 dollars would have to get written off pretty quick. That's a tough sell, but I'm willing to hear the sales pitch. Taken with copious amounts of salt.
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I would definitely consider it if there was something worthwhile for the money. I have trouble imagining such a thing - Vertu phones don't do it for me - but you never know.
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I am a brainless iZombie... I will buy anything Apple makes.. at any price... I actually prefer a high price.. The higher price the better...
I would even buy it if it were 2400 dollars... can we please get to pay 2400 dollars instead...
could we please get a new iPhone that is even more fragile.... I want to have an excuse to buy the latest iPhone as often as possible...
could we please get a kick in the face if we dare to try and get iPhones repaired instead of buying a new one...
everyone knows its better to buy a new one... as often as possible...
must have all Apple devices... must have.. no matter how stupid...
I must buy everything from Apple.... does not matter what it is as long as it has an Apple logo...
even better if the Apple logo can display a cheesy bright light....
all hail the holy Apple... please Apple... tell me what I want and need... I must be dominated... I must be dictated by the holy Apple..
all praise the mighty Apple... inventors of everything...
Only $1200?! Shut up and take my money! /s
Seriously though, the era of $700 smartphones was mostly over once carriers stopped subsidizing them. Now that you pay an installment plan rather than getting it 'free' it's harder to want to spend that much. For my personal iPhone 8 speculation, I think it'll have a 10-bit Rec.2020 (HDR) camera and OLED screen for HDR color support; I suspect there isn't enough volume of small quantum-dot displays to supply the new iPhones. DPI may have hit the wall of diminishing returns, but color accuracy has a LONG way to go on mobile devices; Apple could easily destroy everything else on the market in terms of color reproduction. This'll also allow for displaying HDR video, like from streaming services or UHD Blurays. I know of one phone that has a quantum-dot display, but AFAIK it's still only able to use sRGB gamut. Android has no gamma/colorspace calibration settings, I seem to recall. Imagine if you hold your phone up to a mirror in a dark room, and the selfie camera automatically calibrates the color on your screen; calibration can cause a massive reduction in screen color error. Samsung phones' OLED displays have a wide gamut, but stretch the corners of the sRGB gamut so colors are oversaturated (i.e. pretty), rather than accurate. Hopefully they'll nuke the Lightning connector (it still connects at USB 2.0 speeds) and replace it with USB-C (USB 3.1 or Thunderbolt 3, I don't care much.) USB-C now supports digital audio with the latest standard, so it could replace the standard 3.5mm headphone jack with the new standard USB-C rather than the proprietary Lightning, correcting their misstep (although alienating those who bought Lightning headphones).
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Just *because* it costs up of 1200! Better even if it costed 1500! really hoping that!
That would truly set me apart from that lumpenproletariat. It's depressing that these days everyone and her chihuaua can afford an iPhone.
Now serious: i wouldn't take that for zero dollars. Even a negative amount would have to be significant.
I always wash my hands after having touched an iCrap.
Very simply no. $1200 has quite a bit of purchasing power and I doubt anything that was crammed into a phone would justify that.
Apply is running with a huge profit margin and screwing down their suppliers. They'd be able to take the hit and price a new phone sensibly even with the equivalent new features. Sure, it wouldn't be made from gold plated machined titanium with a radioisotope thermoelectric generator and it would no longer be able to make the morning coffee on its lonesome....
I'd like to see what Xiaomi would offer in a $1500 smartphone.
That's irrational. You could immediately sell it.
Everyone knows it will be collector items in years to come.
So yes it will be an investment. Will buy it for even $2000. Keep it in mint condition. And resell it for price of small new car.
Pseudo-elitist dreams of being slightly more elitist without having to leave their conformist comfort zone.
what he really means is 'every kid on the block has an iphone these days, I pine for when I felt more special, so make a more expensive model so I can separate myself from the unwashed masses again (but actually I am a closet conformist, so it needs to be from my regular supplier, work in the same way - so please just make it cost more so I can buy myself a bit more 'special'..).
Believing that Apple is somehow constrained by price or volume is laughably laughable, they already delivery less for more and have demonstrated a willingness to have availability shortages (in fact historically have done it with a sense of pride during notable releases).
[Stands back to watch the koolaid drinkers backlash against reality]
Apple, you want to charge more for your product, because you feel constrained as to what you can do with a phone? The last time you felt constrained you removed the headphone jack. And that's but one "feature" (out of dozens) users never asked for.
Hundreds of billions sitting in offshore tax havens, already obscene profit margins, and you feel the need to charge even more. This flavor of Greed is only matched by the stupidity of customers willing to pay that much for your product. Sadly, I'm certain the lines will be longer than ever on release day.
This and other comments are along the lines of "hate the ecosystem." But consider what it brings with it. #1, security. There have been no apps or vulnerabilities that I can recall of late - the same cannot be said for Android. Then there's the whole thing where the company cares about your security by designing it to withstand attacks from illegal searches. #2 privacy. Ok, this may be overvalued for some but for others, knowing that the company that made the device isn't spying on us 24x7 so that it can datamine us is good.
Apple should better try to focus on a better User Experience or real added value.
I would buy a more expensive Android phone if it had features worth it, but I can't think of any.
Only the car Bluetooth connection of my Huawei is sometimes flaky (both on the Tesla and the Porsche), but it certainly beats all the voice quality and connection issues with the iPhone.
The camera on the Huawei isn't bad and good enough for the occasional snap. Just like with any other 'flagship' phone, real pictures are should be made with a SLR camera.
So my conclusion is that these so called 'flagship' phones are just for losers who don't have a clue. :-D
I am in no way average as a consumer.
I just got a Lenovo P2 and I freaking love that thing! I charge it about every two to four days while happily watching the Plex media (synced to to 128GB SD card I added in lieu of a second SIM) during my commute.
It's not perfect. Still doesn't have a hardware keyboard but damned if it isn't the first smartphone since the Desire Z I actually don't hate using.
And it didn't even cost half of the usual flagship phones. (my employer spent a bit over half of what a flagship phone would have cost even after contract extension rebates... and that's without contract extension)
My wife's now P2 is in the mail to replace her dying Lumia 930.
All the Slashdot comments I've bothered to read so far come from the perspective of poor people (that includes well paid individuals).
Let's change perspective: Would you buy a $1200 iPhone for your hamsters if you're a company who provides phones to employees?
That's all Apple wants to know.
No, but I'm sure some idiot would.
My problem is not price but value-for-money. It's not there in Apple products, reflected in their ludicrously high margins. They aren't giving you anywhere near the value that the devices and associated services cost.
But Samsung aren't much better. I wouldn't touch any of their top-range smart phones either. And I can't see why my S5 mini is basically an S5 WITHOUT USB host functionality. Basically everything else is identical, but a software / TINY hardware change, makes things not work on the Mini for no real discernible reason.
But I factored that into my value analysis when I bought it. It's not worth paying extra, for a screen that I think is too big, just to get USB host. In similar terms of what I actually want to do on the phone, Apple doesn't even get a look-in. Never has.
But I'm sure there are people out there with money to burn, because EVERY new model of smartphone has people who buy it by the truckload, which is just unfathomable to me. Most of them don't use it for anything more than a quick snap, checking Facebook, and texting their friends. Hell, I've met people who barely use 5% of the functions / apps on their phone, or even know what they do (e.g. introducing people to using Map apps as a satnav etc.).
Why you'd pay that money for a device you don't even understand the basic capabilities of, I can't work out. It's like buying a Ferrari sports car when you can't even drive a Fiat Panda or have never heard of air-conditioning. You do it entirely for the show.
Phones drop, get ruined by water and are obsolete after a year. I don't mind spending money for a durable object, but I don't want to agonize about dangling my phone over the side of a boat to take photos. Will reconsider if and when there are inexpensive repairs and upgrades available.
I've had iDevices, including an iPad Air. Sure, the hardware was nice, but the user experience is so locked-down, strangled and limited that it was a real hassle to use it.
Not worth it.
Eat the rich.
...if i would accept it if it was free
i bought a galaxy S6 about a year ago and i hardly use it for anything other than phone calls and txt msgs , when this phone craps out i am not buying another expensive smartphone, i will buy just enough phone to do what i want, (no point in buying expensive features i will never use)
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Yes, if the $1200 model is the iPhone I like best, and I may buy more for family members too. I want a company that takes security seriously, that controls the entire product from the hardware up (no security if you don't) , that can update the software it provides without asking my cell carrier for permission, that is willing to stand up to the FBI, and, yes, that vets every app I download. I consider the last a valuable service; you may not. $1200 over two or maybe three years is dirt cheap compared to what I am getting.
that so far all this pricing kerfuffle and the subsequent hand wringing is based on wild speculation that is the very definition of click-bait
Meh all this article tells me is that the iPhone8 is going to be more expensive than the last iteration, all this rubbish about $1200-$1500 is just to soften the blow .. it will not cost anything like as much so Apple can say look we listened and decided to be couragous and only charged an extra $100-$200 dollars this time.
What a nut case this guy is, the 'top end' phones are already way to expensive as they are now. Not a chance i'm paying €800 for a phone.
My maximum budget is €200 and that gets you a really great phone already, suiting more then my needs. Paying €600 extra could never be worth the added value these 'top end' phones provide.
On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
I'd be willing to bet our CEO and the majority of other higher-ups who are self important will want one ASAP. After all, Apple products are, by and large, a status symbol, not something you buy because it's actually worth what you pay for it.
Problem being is IF you get a fancy phone, quite a few others will also want your fancy phone. I seem to recall a commercial a couple of years ago about a person being mugged and they gave his phone back to him (hilarious). I kind of like that idea that others would not be interested in wanting my phone even if they stole it.
I wouldn't buy it with a 2 figure price tag!
either. And that's the only reason I have or have ever had an iPhone - my company 'issues them.
I'm not buying the iPhone 8 at any price.
I guess the are. OMG I broke Betteridge's law.
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Requires an enormous grain of salt.
The only way I'd use an iPhone is if someone gave it to me for free. I'm not re-buying or buying equivalent apps, and I do things with my phone that you can't do without it being open to your control instead of only that of the manufacturer.
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I have a Note 4. Perfect phone, no issues, does more. My Note 4 still out performs the latest iPhone and I see no way I would switch. Ever. I am now waiting on the Note 8 and I am sure I will be happy with it also.
As a current iPhone owner of a somewhat older model (5S), I'm torn between going with a 6S or 7 in the future. Should the 8 arrive and be within the "regular" iPhone price range, my debate will change to whether to get a 7 or 8. If it arrives at the $1200 price range, no matter what cool new features it offers, it would probably be uninteresting until software developers actually wrote stuff to take advantage of the new features. Meaning, I'd just assume wait til the iPhone 9 arrives, so that software is available, and (presumably) the part shortages the author alludes to would be remedied.
But somewhere I read that Apple refuses to use a part in their phone unless they can obtain them from two independent sources. Makes me think the scenario that the author alludes to wouldn't occur at all. Yes, Apple sells pricey gear, but they're in the "pricey but reasonable" area, in order to maximize both sales and profits. Going all in on price to the exclusion of sales at all, that would be a reversion to the tactics of the 80's/90's which saw them in doom and gloom mode...
$1200 sounds reasonable, only, the money would have to go the other way. They'd have to *pay* me that amount to carry their fashion product.
Who is this John Gruber and how does his ideas have any influence on Apples pricing strategy? It appears this article is just about pipe-dreaming what a $1500,- iPhone would be like. As far as I can see, it has *nothing* to do with an actual iPhone 8 or its actual retail-price.
Ever since the iphone was found to be spying on its owners, I wouldn't buy an iphone for a dollar!
I'd switch to Samsung.
I've got an iPhone 6+. I'm quite happy with it.
On the other hand, I may well get an iPad Pro (to replace my 1st gen iPad Air) when iOS 11 comes out. ..bruce..
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I wouldn't buy an iPhone if it were on sale for $1.
Many would buy he latest iPhone at any price, since they are like Versace handbags. It is not necessary to look inside.
But for me your Motorola G is a fancy phone :)
I won't spend over $500 on a phone, period. Nog even if it had 8k display, DD 24-way sound and lasts a week...
Wont buy even if it costs $120
...does it have an earphone jack?
There is no God, and Dirac is his prophet.
Interestingly Samsung seems to be able to do a lot more hardware wise with a similar price point to Apple.
Why, when I can get an unlimited supply of Obama-phones for nothing.
It would have to have replacable battery - So it would last more than 2 years.
In the history of slashdot, Apple used to be the underdog that slashdotters rooted for... the commercially successful *nix platform, primary committer to FreeBSD, core influencer on LLVM, ressurector of Webkit, the leader of the legal digital music revolution, the company that took the Telecom monopolies head on and seemingly forced them out of sheer awesomeness to give the user what they deserved. ( not to mention the company that went against the government for device encryption and Net neutrality ) And now... look how hardened your black hearts have become.
It is approaching the cost of a gold bar in your pocket!
No one would shoot you in the face and take your $1200 Gold Bar would they?
I wouldn't buy the iPhone 8 even if it only cost $12.
ANDR0!D 4 LYFE
I would not purchase an iPhone if it were free... I trust Apple almost as much as I "trust" Microsoft!
Sometimes, real fast is almost as good as real-time.
Apple solved this. A stolen iphone is 100% useless on the black market as they cant register it or get into it without the owner releasing it from icloud. And so many people are getting burned on that.
Pawn shops refuse to take an iphone if you can not prove it has been full released and reset. Even the craigslisters are asking for proof that it's released before purchase..... well the ones that have a brain are.
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
I for one think Apple should start their iPhone prices at $1,000,000... fucking rich people.
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They keep pushing the costs just to see what they can get away with. Watch the faces of the consumers when the first tear down discloses how much the thing costs to build and enjoy the schadenfreude.
It would bring a tear to P.T. Barnum's eye I'm sure.
Apple should jump in the wayback machine and go ask Silicon Graphics how well their elitist pricing worked out for them.
You can get away with it for a while as long as you're the only game in town. Once you have competition, however, the game changes and you either adapt or cease to be.
To answer the original question of if I would buy one ? I'll borrow a far more colorful answer:
I'm disinclined to acquiesce to your request.
Means "no".
As any programmer, knows NOTHING is 100% when it comes to software/hardware in this day and age. There is always something that is not taken into account. As long as human beings create or design something, there will always be a way around any security measure put into place. Make it difficult? Yes, but currently it will NEVER be a 100% guarantee.
No, I wouldn't get an iPhone even if it were free. I don't want to buy into their ecosystem, nor do I want to reward their tax dodging, or their cult like practices.
Endless discussions on this matter are pointless. Just turn this into a poll and be done with it.
If you are like me and want a 64GB device to store your music and pics then you have already paid this price.
"I hope the iPhone Pro starts at $1500 or higher. I'd like to see what Apple can do in a phone with a higher price."
Translated to direct language:
"I hope that Apple makes iPhones status symbols again. I'm tired of seeing people that I consider beneath me carrying iPhones, and I would enjoy mine more if they were more exclusive."
What could they do at that price point? Well, they could make it bigger, or they could put more storage in it, or they could put more/bigger cameras on it. Maybe offer it in exclusive colors. It might be slightly more powerful, but not meaningfully so because there'd be no point--the app store ecosystem is going to continue to target the median device specs in order to capture the biggest possible market.
The only real difference would be that it was so expensive that most people wouldn't be able to justify the cost of one, which is what a lot of people want--they lament the fact that smartphones in general, and particularly iPhones have become mundane devices that no longer solicit any kind of admiration or awe. Apple's business model for the last decade or so has been shifting toward selling inexpensive hardware at high costs in order to create the illusion of luxury, but they've also had to lower their average prices in order to compete with Android in particular. There are an alarming number of people who see this as a bad thing, mainly because they care more about the image, than the actual functionality.
i want it NOW!
well ok, the last four iphones cost me over a grand each. nuf said! oops! i lied. bought one on monday for only 6 plus hundred beans! Apple was nice ... my old one had a "known" issue, already had a screen replacement once, was five years old and 64Gig six plus, and three years out of warrantee! ... they said NO!
Sadly, I asked if i could apply that half price credit to a new red 7 plus 128G
No worries! Fanboi's WILL pay!
love me yet?
If it had USB C I would be interested
things I would like :
USB C connector (they can do their Made For iPhone for everything but let me have a standard power jack please)
Iris scanner (not a crappy face scanner thats only for ruling out Iris defeat devices)
Fingerprint (touch ID Maintained via port on the back or power button)
Antennas (More of them, the antenna design needs a lot more work we could have multiple Wifi / LTE antenna if they didn't think thin but fast)
NFC responder (I'm fed up of carrying a badge around work to open doors, kill this already ! NFC reader is already in specs I want response)
Bluetooth 5 ( 5 is alive and they need to support more of the standard if not all of the relevant such as health device, HID, proximity and PAN )
Temperature (IR temperature reader exposed to developers to allow crowdsourced weather apps etc)
Navigation (full QZSS (japan), IRNSS(indian) Galileo(europe) and BeiDou(china) all merged together and error checking each other rather than just GPS/GLONASS )
I'd happily pay for that...
regards
John Jones
That's half a new Alienware. I haven't even forked for the iPhone 7 because losing the headphone jack was a ridiculous decision. Wireless earbuds suck the life out of the phone's battery. Apple's iPhone design decisions haven't been value added for a good little while now.
The phone I have is a smartphone which I purchased for $40 or thereabouts.
I don't understand what "value" people are getting out of $200 smartphones, much less what value someone would get out of a $1200 smartphone.
I actually noticed a difference when switching to a smartphone from a flip-phone (hint: it's really a computer), but what more is there? What am I missing out on?
I stepped off the upgrade bandwagon a while ago. Just like with cars, the used market offers fantastic value given the steep depreciation of electronics. Plus you get a year or so for other people to find the exploding batteries, dodgy touch sensors, update bugs, bending problems, wireless headphones to actually be shipped, etc. I guess there's always the "oooh factor", but honestly that goes away about a week after launch and no one gives a damn anymore, you just have another bar-shaped phone with a logo on it.
LOL
I just sold my display cabinet! it came complete with six ipod gen 1, 4 ipod gen 3, 2 ipod gen 4, a couple of shuffles, six iphone 4's, six 6+'s, cords, chargers, ear buds (some working), etc.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE FANBOI GAVE ME FOR IT? Well, lets just say it more than paid for my new red 7+ 128G unit! Several times over!
for $100 you can get a decent phone that will make calls, send emails and text messages.
I find it funny that in the end its like the computer market and windows, as the devices get faster, the programs and operating systems get more bloated and the actual experienced speed remains the same.
Wait, what was the question again? Ah, no I'm poor and still waiting for google to release a cheap nexus. Mean while I'm still on my nexus 5.
Sure there's some impressive stuff that phones can do these days, but frankly I expect to never again purchase a phone that's priced higher than "midrange." I pay for my own devices, and I'm not so well off that $1k+ is something I'd consider pocket change or even a purchase I'd make without a second thought.
Phones get dropped. Phones get wet. Phones get things dropped or placed on top of them. Phones get left behind. Phones get stolen. Because of the size and having them always with you, it's even easier for any of these to happen to a phone than to a laptop.
Get what will meet your realistic needs for a year or two at 1/3 the price of the New Hotness, set it up so if you lose it it's not a catastrophe (online backup, remote wipe, etc.), and in a year or two do the same thing again. If you're lucky you'll be able to sell the old one, but given all the bad things that can happen to phones don't count on it - it's a consumable, not an investment.
fencepost
just a little off
> Would You Buy the iPhone 8 If It Cost $1,200?
Well ... can it lick my balls? Then yes. Yes, I would.
You know, as soon as you FAndroids can tell me how to update this phone to the latest revision of Nougat (7.1.1), that was bought running Nougat (7.0), your pointless blustering might just hold a little bit of weight. For all this "versatility" and "lack of being stuck in Apple's walled garden" crap you folks blindly spew, it sure feels restrictive here in Android-ville.
Now lets wait for a bunch of little propellerheads to start asking "what phone?" and "have you rooted?" and pointing me to some blogs where some guy somewhere hacked the shit out of something until it "installed" but freezes and crashes like crazy. But it runs! lol. Hardly.
In case some of you don't get it, this is why Apple is STILL winning. This is why Apple devices are perceived as 'better' by the masses. Because, well, they are. Sure some certain Android running device may do something an Apple device doesn't. Same looking back the other direction as well, no? The point is Apple devices work. Reliably, predictably, and consistently. I have both, I carry both, but when I need to rely on my devices one of them clearly shines - and it ain't running Android. I really do like Nougat a lot, but it definitely irritates me that not only can I NOT upgrade to the latest builds, there's ZERO indication when I will be able to IF EVER! That is a losing proposition right there.
I can easily afford it, but I'm not so big into being "The first kid on the block with Air-Jordans."
I'll probably hold off another year with my trusty iPhone 6, and see what comes in the next wave.
I'm sure that lots of folks will buy them. I see quite a few Teslas Model S and X around here. Same thing.
... is that your privacy is being sold in little bits and being used to subsidize your android phone. I disagree with the basics of the Android ecosystem.
I dislike products that are so "idiot-proof" that when "That Button You Push" to do everything doesn't work, you have to send it back to Apple for $$ervicing....
In short, HELL NO.
I'm also curious what he thinks Apple can implement with the extra margin that they can't already do on the iPhone? I'm sure they can put fancier, higher resolution screens, maybe a crazy camera, etc. But I don't think people are going to pay a 60-80% increase for a marginally better camera, and I don't think there is a killer new use case that is just waiting for this one expensive technology to be put on the phone.
Do they pay you the $1200 right when you take it, or do you have to use it continuously and they pay you over the course of a whole year, or what?
"Believe me!" -- Donald Trump
I wouldn't drop 1,200 on ANY mobile device.
Well, unless it were also my computer which I could then dock and play games on ( desktop games, not mobile ). The dock and associated peripherals would have to be included in that 1,200, or no deal.
Mod me down with all of your hatred and your journey towards the dark side will be complete!
So you sell something like 26(!) iToys, and then are amazed that someone paid you several times the price of a brand new iPhone 7? Boy, do you depreciate your property quickly!
I had a perfectly good 5s, but I wanted something w/ Apple Pay, and when my chance to upgrade arrived, iPhone 7 was just a couple of months away, so I waited. I then passed on the 5s to my niece, and got the 7. Originally, when I bought the 5s, I wasn't mindful that the 6 was just months away: had I been, I'd have waited then itself and not upgraded to 7.
Anyone who blindly says "yes" or "no" can be safely ignored.
As always, it depends on various factors. What features will it provide? Does it do what you want? Does it do something particularly attractive to you that no other phone does? Are those features worth it to you to pay the Apple Tax?
I just spent $1200 on an iPhone 7 Plus because I didn't want to be restricted in storage, and it's the only mobile device on the market that supports Bluetooth Power Class 1. Paired with a BeatsX headphone ($175), I have had audio quality that I didn't realize was even possible. I have had exactly one connection interruption and that was in a known area with exceptionally bad RF interference. This is in comparison to my previous setup where I couldn't even walk down the street without multiple interruptions.
My time is finite, and I choose not to waste it futzing around with an appliance that should Just Work(tm).
Also, I considered holding off my purchase and waiting till the 8 came out, but Apple hardware seems to work like Microsoft software. The early adopters invariable feel some kind of teething pains that can take months to sort out, and I wasn't willing to put up with that.
No. iTunes is truly awful software. Basic operations like copying pictures or music are a painful chore with it. Customers pay me to put up with that crap and I won't spend my time or money on it.
For $120 I can get a Samsung Galaxy Express Prime 2 with the same size screen as an iPhone 7, a removable battery, Headphone jack, and a MicroSD slot. Best of all, if I want to sync my music to it I can drag-and-drop the folder into the phone or sync them with Dropbox.
Fuck iTunes and the phones that require it.
No. Just no.
I love technology, but I'm not willing to pay anywhere near close to that for what is essentially a disposable device. I typically buy a new phone when the one I'm using doesn't do what I need it to do. I have a Honor 5X that I bought about a year and a half ago for $110. It sends texts, emails, takes pictures, and works fine for basic web browsing. The battery is still good condition so it may last another 1.5 years. You can keep a li-ion battery in "good shape" by keeping the charge between 30-85% and only full charging when you absolutely have a need to like traveling, etc. A phone is a tool, and unless there is a new version/device that will improve my productivity or is much more functional then there is no need to upgrade as long as it is operational. I treat everything this way. It's the reason I drove my last vehicle for 14 years. Yes it had some rust, etc. but it was functional, why waste money on an unneeded vehicle upgrade when it could be used elsewhere with better long term results?
My current iPhone7+ cost almost a grand. You morons are paying the same price with 2 year lock in commitments and if you are using an Android phone, then you are paying more than that because it is shit.
It's not a paperclip, it's a money clip! Two totally different things!
$185 is actually pretty reasonable as far as money clips go. Check out the various models from M-Clip. They're all the same design, but you can pay anywhere from $60 on up to $4,500 for one with diamonds.
I bought two of the mid-range models and it was the first time in my life I truly understood what status symbols were about. Not just what the dictionary definition is, but what it really means when people buy these things. At a certain level of income any additional money you make becomes truly expendable. All of your needs have been paid for along with your future needs, so saving or investing the money for the future makes less and less sense compared to spending it on something fun for yourself. After all, you can't take it with you.
Finding ways to spend your money becomes an actual problem as you become more and more wealthy. That's why some people have big car and art collections, it's a place to keep their money. At some point you even start buying companies, islands, start charities and funds, etc.
That's far too high a price for a smartphone.
No, I didn't even want an iPhone for $300, why would I want one for $1200?
Contained in your monthly bill. Would I pay this amount? No. But I have mathematically challenged clients who will... They'll trade in their 16 GB iPhone for the latest model and then wonder why their monthly bill has spiked so much.
I had an iPhone 4S. A 16GB device. The memory on that thing filled up so quickly with Podcasts and Music etc. It was a hassle.
Then I upgraded to an LG G4 which has a MicroSD card slot. Space was suddenly not an issue. I've even upgraded the memory card once since getting the phone because space became tight again. I can take that same memory card over to my next phone when I upgrade that.
Until Apple starts offering an expandable memory option in their phones, I'm not going back.
Simples!
I wouldn't take one if you gave it to me with free connectivity for life, or any other smartphone for that matter. If I want to be monitored 24/7/365, I'll go rob a bank and kill people so I get put in prison for the rest of my life. At least then I'll know for sure I'm being watched instead of having to wonder about it.
Is Apple constrained from doing the most important thing to do next? Or are they constrained within a completionist game to create the ultimate jewellery?
These hardware upgrades are an obvious money pit since so little of the money goes to software maintenance, and software has the most utility. Most of the TCO goes straight into the landfill. Even most of the software development is glue to keep up with device churn.
Even the old price is not a lot of value compared to what's possible. We would get a bigger payoff from drastically cutting the amount of glue and systems integration software, either through clever design, or through increasing the quality of software that comes from hardware companies so that a product of Apple-level quality didn't have to write all this themselves. Imagine a world where you could subscribe to either iOS, Android, Windows on your phone like you subscribe to Netflix or Hulu. The software would be better, TCO lower, and the competition intense due to the lack of friction.
Rich kids will buy 50 of them and play Jenga.
>> Would You Buy the iPhone 8 If It Cost $1,200?
No.
>> Would You Buy the iPhone 8 ?
No.
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Yep, yur heard it. I would buy it. Then lose it within one week. Then talk about it. Then go back to my Western Electric black 1960's dial phone, which I cannot seem to lose.
Most Respectfully Yours Mark Allyn Bellingham, Washington
No
It better have a gtx 1080 built in.
Sorry, teleporters just kill you and then make a copy. A perfect, soul-less copy.
My phone needs, and my wife's phone needs would be handled nicely by any number of $200 or so Android phones. I need a decent camera, a little space for some tunes, a battery for a week of standby operation, and a decent enough screen to have maps on it. I use it for very little.
But the few $200-300 phones we bought were mangled incarnations of Android, full of bloatware and crapware. Those apps got auto-updated to the point where the phone ran out of space and was horrible to use for even a phone call.
So I spent $400 for a older model iPhone 5 for the wife on VM, and she was happy. I spent $400 on a closeout Nexus 6 a year later. We are now both on Ting and spend $35 on average for our usage (well, $30 for her usage, about $5 for my proportion...). $400 was too much for what we want the phones for, but I see the likelihood of having to shell out about $600 for an older model 6s for her in the next 6-12 months as her 3 year old phone is getting rather worse for wear.
So no way in hell am I shelling out anywhere near $1200 for an iPhone, or a Pixel knockoff of it, or a Samsung Flamer 8, etc. I'll troll the closeouts for something about 1/3 of that at most, and still be cranky for wasting so much on an appliance I primarily use to receive grocery list texts on.
But I hope sincerely the rest of you do; it's such a great idea, super awesome and just for people who "get it".
Do you think they believed that?
No. I will import some good chinee clones and sell them tho. ^_^
And if you did, what would you use it for?
I won't buy it at the current price tag, why would I pay twice as much as I already think is stupid?
And they break easy.
Apple is Mugatu.
Have been an Iphone fan for long but 1200 is too much. Happy with my current Iphone and will wait year or two before I buy new iphone . By then these "Pro" features will be in "regular" iphone
The only way I would pay $1200 for an iPhone was if it came with $1100 of easily removable gold plating. That way I could conceivably get my money's worth out of it.
HexaByte - he's a square and a half!
Increasingly, my cellphone has really become more of a pocket computer that I rely on constantly for both my work and personal communications. It often serves as the only camera or camcorder I'm carrying when I want to take photos or shoot video. It serves as my alarm clock each morning, and reminds me of appointments during the day. I often read the news on it while I'm out someplace. It might even be pressed into service as a flashlight or a ruler or bubble level in a pinch. I keep track of eBay auctions with it and track packages with it. I even get discounts at restaurants or earn points using their apps on it.
It's every bit as useful as my laptop that I happily spent 4 figures on.
The better question is what I'm going to get for my money if I buy it? I'm currently using an iPhone 7 Plus with 256GB of storage and it cost fairly close to $1,000. I have my whole music collection stored on it so it's accessible in my car or Jeep via Bluetooth at any time - justifying the extra cost for the extra storage. I'm pretty happy with the phone and it does most of what I need. So far, it sounds like the iPhone 8 will give me things like inductive charging, which is "nice to have" but not anything I'd spend a lot of money to get right now.
Truthfully? My cellular reception is one of my biggest hassles. All too often, I go inside some large building and find I don't have a good signal in part of it, or I travel someplace where my carrier has poor coverage (T-Mobile). It works well enough for what I pay each month for service. But if there was some way a new phone could promise a dramatically improved radio and antenna setup that would keep it locked in noticeably better on towers? I'd gladly pay to upgrade for that.
The payola to Gruber just was proven.
Besides, going the Vertu route is a fast way to bankruptcy and loss.
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
What count? Well, does it have a better battery, more memory, better reception? Does it weigh less, fit in my pocket better? I mean, is there a price performance curve for these kinds of things?
Ulimately, if it was the same iPhone but was good for a week of heavy use between charges, would you still not buy it?
I still use a flip phone. I don't need to be connected to the net every F'n minute of the day/night.
I would buy it if the cost was less than $100 but only to gift it to someone I hate.
I would never give up the freedom android provides. I use Lineage OS on my Nexus 5 and it's still strong.
That's $1550 Canadian, so no .. no I wouldn't.
I wish I had a lawn.
I still use a 4S because it was so cheap at the time (and because it fits in my shirt and pants pockets, rather than requiring a small backpack to carry around).
Admittedly, it is getting harder to get replacement accessories, nowadays. My charging cord is purple, because the world seems to out of white or black iPod cables.
>I'd like to see what Apple can do in a phone with a higher price
facebook snapchat and angry birds
but for the extra zero they will Just Work
People act like high prices were invented by Apple. The bare-bones version of the Motorola StarTac launched in 1996 for $1000.00. Adjusted for inflation, that's $1560.00 in 2017. (The full package StarTac with a belt clip and extra battery was $1295.00.)
I'll never understand what compels someone who hates Apple to bother commenting on stories like this one. You hate Apple. We get it. That makes the iPhone a terrible, horrible product for you, and a lousy value proposition. But some people prefer what Apple has to offer, and that makes it an excellent value proposition for them. Wait, wait, no, shut up... you can't declare Android to be superior because of this or that feature that iPhone lacks or Android has—those are the things that make Android valuable to *you*. Your values are not universal. They're not even important... to anyone but you.
And the same goes for me. Yeah, I like the iPhone. But hey, if you like Android, then it's the better choice for you. Like nearly all iPhone users, I don't think I'm smarter or cooler than you, or that you made a bad choice. I just did the same thing you did: I weighed my options and bought a product I like. Neither of us is the genius here, and neither is the moron.
If someone's choice to buy a different product than you did is annoying or bothersome to you, really, spend some time on a beach. You need a break from worrying about completely irrelevant things.
Apple isn't removing ports, they are adding courage!
As they add more and more courage the device becomes more irresistible, until the device vanishes into a spacetime singularity where all features are merged into a point of infinite irresistance (is that a word? No? Then I'm inventing the word, here, now). The Reality Distortion Field still exists and surrounds the singularity but the iDevice itself has vanished behind an RDF event horizon.
Quantum Jobs Radiation emits from the RDF event horizon, but typical owner pride levels mean that the Mass Puffery Level continues to increase under most conditions extant. Eventually the QJR will dominate, billions (or trillions) of years into the future. At that point the singularity will evaporate, ending in an explosion of Apple Owner Pride.
You asked if we would buy a product that has not been announced, one which will have new features about which we know nothing. This is like asking if I would spend $850 on a Bibbulous bike. Maybe! It depends what that is
How much would you pay me to stick a post-it note reading "twat" on your back?
Apple is not likely interested in making the most awesome phone, they are more likely interested in making the most profitable phone.
Apple products suck. They lock you into their culture, charge you $30 for a cable that costs $5 on eBay, and at every corner, there is another fee of some kind.
... would I buy it if it only cost $200.
The answer is still no!
I wouldn't buy it if it costed $12.00
It simply isn't worth the effort of buying no matter how low the price.
LOL!
No.
I am not an Apple Fan Boy. However....
I do use a mac at work and it grows more appealing every day. That having been said, I can think of one way I'd consider paying that much, if I could plug it into a shell of a Computer and then use it like a mac. IE.... Not like what surface does with the keyboard or touch screen, but with the skeleton of the device just as mac would be, just that the phone is its brain.
I think this is ridiculous even if it is a Pro product. It's a phone, not a computer, or even an iPad. I don't upgrade every time now, at this price I'd buy a Samsung, especially as in the U.K. We seem to pay £1 per dollar on Apple product.
No other phone maker has ever launched a phone at such a stratospheric price point.
Apple's courage is yuge.
I would not like it in a boat
I would not do that to a goat
In Australia we already pay that much for a premier phone. iphone/pixel/galaxy. i expect the 8 to be closer to aus$1500
People will pay for perceived value, commitment to an ecosystem. because they like it, or because they can.
Australia has several apple stores, where u can go in, demo a device and bring it back if your not happy. purchase accessories with confidence, and be serviced for any issues. we also have several 3rd party stores for screen and battery replacements.
i have an iphone 5. had the replaced battery. for aus$35. too easy. im a light user so saved me upgrading to the 7.
its hard to find quality handset less than 5 inch. not everyone wants phablet gaming rig.
Apple has a large share in Australia too, and i really like iMsg. - that doesnt mean i think apple is good value, but i will continue do stay there until there is an better platform.. and not a side grade.
Skoda make excellent vehicles. but everyone still buys VW and Audi's even though the Skoda is functionally equal. - i wonder why that is ??
I will have to sell just one more kidney, right? Wait, I have only two kidneys? Rats...
if they gave me one for free ...
strangely my $50 huawei android phone still seems to have way too many things installed, i mostly use the flashlight and recorder and thats about it, then again i have no friends (not even fakebook ones)
Free speech was meant to be free for all... how can anyone grow up in a nanny state ?
Gruber made? Because of the volume of iPhone sales Apple is limited in what they can put in the phone. By selling a Pro model at a price that will lower that volume they can put components in the phone that they couldn't otherwise. maybe someone else mentioned this, but all the posts I'm seeing is "ha stoopid apple fanbois" I gotta get some better friends.
Like anyone can even know that
Nope. It's an iDevice, and I've never liked them since the first one I brought - and then sold on. (I will admit, it kept it's resale value).
120$, no. It's still an iDevice.
12$, yeah, I'd consider it.
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