My opinion, for what it's worth, is that cultures evolve to the technological level that they need to survive.
In the classical "Cradle of Civilization", the Tigris-Euphrates valley, there were few animals to eat, and plants didn't grow regularly. So, the people needed to learn how to make the plants grow regularly. Irrigation developed. Wait, we grew too much, we need something to store all this food in! I found this clay over here, let's make some pottery.
Many native american tribes didn't go any higher than stone age in some technologies, because they didn't need to.
they chose to be assholes. I chose to react to it by being one back to them. Trust me, being nice doesn't work when they're too bigoted against people that aren't rednecks to do more than laugh in your face when you speak to them.
So-called "educators" are the ones that make education into an authority game. There are a lot of professors out there that just don't give a shit, or they got into teaching because they had no power in other areas of their life (to that end I'm thinking of high school teachers)
Personally, I love to learn. I also understand the need to learn things that I may not enjoy inherently or be able to immediately apply. What I don't like is being told how to learn, and being expected to learn under anyone else's style but my own. Many teachers feel the need to force their methods of learning down your throat.
I also don't like arbitrary limits on my personal freedom. I had professors in college (well, for one class before I ran to admissions and changed) that would flunk you for taking bathroom breaks. I'm an adult and a taxpayer and when I was in college I paid tuition - I'll go to the bathroom whenever the hell I want. It's to my benefit to go to class, so there's no need to force me to attend. Attempting to is nothing more than satisfying your own weaknesses.
I do speak from personal experience. I grew up on a farm on top of a hill in eastern Kentucky. All the people around me were redneck assholes, the only knowledge you're allowed to possess there without being beaten is how to rebuild an engine and how to get your sister to hold still (for the trolls: no, I didn't bang my sister, and I didn't try to). The closest town had 1200 people. The closest semi-major city was Columbus OH.
I couldn't get a connection to an ISP higher than 14.4 due to the shitty phone lines so I didn't do much real-time online gaming, and it was really before the time that MMORPGs came online. Right when I moved was when Evercrack showed up. I did a lot of IRC when the net came to the area, and before that I did a lot of BBSing and ran a BBS.
I got out, got a life (sort of, I'm still a programmer), I'm getting married in the fall, and everything is generally getting better. However, I look back on when I was a shut-in gamer and I don't regret that time because it was all I had then. Gaming was an escape from that miserable shithole, and most of the other people I knew were drunk or stoned or on harder shit every night to dull the misery. Gaming is bad for socialization but it doesn't directly kill you or get you a criminal record, and through online gaming and interaction I learned that I had options other than rotting on that hill like the other people around me.
As long as you know when to stop, it's not a bad thing.
I find it sickening that someone can so easily say they hate the world, then try and create a new one that offers no fulfillment. Define fulfillment in this context.
Easy for you to say. When you're a gamer like this guy, you reach a point where social skills drop off that this is nearly impossible to do without extensive drug therapy and counseling. You get stuck in a negative feedback loop because people don't want to help out the weird guy that prefers his computer games, and they aren't smart enough to recognize when he wants out of that life. People write you off, so you have to get out of town and reinvent yourself.
Then we have the perfect solution: make learning more entertaining and self-paced. As long as education is an authority game and not a self-directed one nobody will choose learning over entertainment.
US meddling isn't the only way they can improve their situation. To assert so is arrogance in its most extreme form.
And culturally, it's not our place to "correct" cultures that we find distasteful.
The Indian caste system is tied in with religion; we'd have to destroy the Hindu faith to end that. Imagine if someone came over and told Bush that the administration would have to stop damning homosexuals to hell or they'd stop trading with the USA? They'd tell that someone to go to hell (or Texas) and probably invade them for the crime of questioning their religious beliefs.
I wouldn't be opposed to the world returning to the way of the past when people did everything for themselves. It'll never happen because people are soft and like their conveniences too much.
Semantics. I work for a lot of IT and software old-timers that value reliability over flashiness. They trust perl because it's been proven for years to work. They don't trust random stuff off of CPAN because some of it's crap and hasn't been proven.
ok, I know what you mean about natural resources now.
I guess I think it's more important for a people to have a cultural identity than consumer goods and disposable income. I'm ashamed of the way our slash and burn corporate rape culture has infested the world.
The really big modules like DBI, LWP, and CGI are the product of many man-YEARS of effort. It'd be stupid to even think of reimplementing any of them, unless you need something extremely simple. The downside to them is that they have the swiss army kitchen sink approach to solving problems - if someone might need it, throw it in.
Who uses CGI.pm's HTML tags-as-functions stuff, anyway? It's a lot faster to say
I work in a mixed Perl and Java shop. We use some third-party stuff, but it's preferred that libraries be developed in-house. There's a distrust of public-domain software here, and there's an extra layer of process related to integrating third-party code. The CM and Ops guys don't care, but the QA and development guys are scared to death of anything that might have a bug that we didn't write.
I didn't even mention natural resources. You must be lost, that argument's down the hall and to your left.
I would prefer it wasn't a globally free market, myself. I would rather we attempt to create everything we need in the USA and only import things that it's impossible to build, mine, or grow here. I think there should be stiff federal civil penalties for any company that sells managerial control out to a foreign interest, and criminal charges should be considered against the board for doing so. It undermines the integrity of the US economy. I think that companies should be prohibited by law from using foreign firms that charge less than domestic ones.
But it'll never happen. The money-worshippers and republidrones will scream "regulation" and "socialism" and the media will shit its pants in its rush to tear down everything good about this plan, and forget that corporations left untended will slash and burn until there's no Holy Market left to slash and burn. Some global economy.
The USA has forgotten how to take care of its own.
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now wait until this ends up as a "my computer was crapper than yours" thread
that is a fine computer.. for me to poop on!
My opinion, for what it's worth, is that cultures evolve to the technological level that they need to survive.
In the classical "Cradle of Civilization", the Tigris-Euphrates valley, there were few animals to eat, and plants didn't grow regularly. So, the people needed to learn how to make the plants grow regularly. Irrigation developed. Wait, we grew too much, we need something to store all this food in! I found this clay over here, let's make some pottery.
Many native american tribes didn't go any higher than stone age in some technologies, because they didn't need to.
they chose to be assholes. I chose to react to it by being one back to them. Trust me, being nice doesn't work when they're too bigoted against people that aren't rednecks to do more than laugh in your face when you speak to them.
So-called "educators" are the ones that make education into an authority game. There are a lot of professors out there that just don't give a shit, or they got into teaching because they had no power in other areas of their life (to that end I'm thinking of high school teachers)
Personally, I love to learn. I also understand the need to learn things that I may not enjoy inherently or be able to immediately apply. What I don't like is being told how to learn, and being expected to learn under anyone else's style but my own. Many teachers feel the need to force their methods of learning down your throat.
I also don't like arbitrary limits on my personal freedom. I had professors in college (well, for one class before I ran to admissions and changed) that would flunk you for taking bathroom breaks. I'm an adult and a taxpayer and when I was in college I paid tuition - I'll go to the bathroom whenever the hell I want. It's to my benefit to go to class, so there's no need to force me to attend. Attempting to is nothing more than satisfying your own weaknesses.
I do speak from personal experience. I grew up on a farm on top of a hill in eastern Kentucky. All the people around me were redneck assholes, the only knowledge you're allowed to possess there without being beaten is how to rebuild an engine and how to get your sister to hold still (for the trolls: no, I didn't bang my sister, and I didn't try to). The closest town had 1200 people. The closest semi-major city was Columbus OH.
I couldn't get a connection to an ISP higher than 14.4 due to the shitty phone lines so I didn't do much real-time online gaming, and it was really before the time that MMORPGs came online. Right when I moved was when Evercrack showed up. I did a lot of IRC when the net came to the area, and before that I did a lot of BBSing and ran a BBS.
I got out, got a life (sort of, I'm still a programmer), I'm getting married in the fall, and everything is generally getting better. However, I look back on when I was a shut-in gamer and I don't regret that time because it was all I had then. Gaming was an escape from that miserable shithole, and most of the other people I knew were drunk or stoned or on harder shit every night to dull the misery. Gaming is bad for socialization but it doesn't directly kill you or get you a criminal record, and through online gaming and interaction I learned that I had options other than rotting on that hill like the other people around me.
As long as you know when to stop, it's not a bad thing.
I find it sickening that someone can so easily say they hate the world, then try and create a new one that offers no fulfillment.
Define fulfillment in this context.
Easy for you to say. When you're a gamer like this guy, you reach a point where social skills drop off that this is nearly impossible to do without extensive drug therapy and counseling. You get stuck in a negative feedback loop because people don't want to help out the weird guy that prefers his computer games, and they aren't smart enough to recognize when he wants out of that life. People write you off, so you have to get out of town and reinvent yourself.
Then we have the perfect solution: make learning more entertaining and self-paced. As long as education is an authority game and not a self-directed one nobody will choose learning over entertainment.
There time is long gone
With the invention of K-Y Jelly, unions were made obselete.
The line is whether they contributed $X to the campaigns of the ruling party's candidates. That means it's being developed.
too bad they modded you troll. You're onto something there.
US meddling isn't the only way they can improve their situation. To assert so is arrogance in its most extreme form.
And culturally, it's not our place to "correct" cultures that we find distasteful.
The Indian caste system is tied in with religion; we'd have to destroy the Hindu faith to end that. Imagine if someone came over and told Bush that the administration would have to stop damning homosexuals to hell or they'd stop trading with the USA? They'd tell that someone to go to hell (or Texas) and probably invade them for the crime of questioning their religious beliefs.
wipe will solve all your BunDirty problems
at least he didn't offer to share his midichlorians
I wouldn't be opposed to the world returning to the way of the past when people did everything for themselves. It'll never happen because people are soft and like their conveniences too much.
Semantics. I work for a lot of IT and software old-timers that value reliability over flashiness. They trust perl because it's been proven for years to work. They don't trust random stuff off of CPAN because some of it's crap and hasn't been proven.
ok, I know what you mean about natural resources now.
I guess I think it's more important for a people to have a cultural identity than consumer goods and disposable income. I'm ashamed of the way our slash and burn corporate rape culture has infested the world.
we can't all be as stunningly perfect as you. If you find what I said offensive, it's your ulcer.
Who uses CGI.pm's HTML tags-as-functions stuff, anyway? It's a lot faster to saythan
I wouldn't put him in the class of men.
so richard simmons would be a perfect fit!
Ha! I kill me. Dial 10-10-220
You're not faking?
That's dynamite!
I work in a mixed Perl and Java shop. We use some third-party stuff, but it's preferred that libraries be developed in-house. There's a distrust of public-domain software here, and there's an extra layer of process related to integrating third-party code. The CM and Ops guys don't care, but the QA and development guys are scared to death of anything that might have a bug that we didn't write.
I didn't even mention natural resources. You must be lost, that argument's down the hall and to your left.
I would prefer it wasn't a globally free market, myself. I would rather we attempt to create everything we need in the USA and only import things that it's impossible to build, mine, or grow here. I think there should be stiff federal civil penalties for any company that sells managerial control out to a foreign interest, and criminal charges should be considered against the board for doing so. It undermines the integrity of the US economy. I think that companies should be prohibited by law from using foreign firms that charge less than domestic ones.
But it'll never happen. The money-worshippers and republidrones will scream "regulation" and "socialism" and the media will shit its pants in its rush to tear down everything good about this plan, and forget that corporations left untended will slash and burn until there's no Holy Market left to slash and burn. Some global economy.
The USA has forgotten how to take care of its own.
For those about to pun, get on the highway to hell.
It's a nonstop block of kin korn karn hits!