honestpuck writes
"I find it surprising that with the current popularity of the The Lord
of The Rings movies and subsequent rise in sales of the trilogy and
The Hobbit that so few bookshops stock more of the Professor's other
works. Fortunately this volume makes it easier. It puts four of his works in one, Farmer Giles of Ham, The Adventures of Tom
Bombadil Leaf By Niggle and Smith of Wootton Major." The first and fourth of these I've read elsewhere (and enjoyed), so I'm glad to learn of the other two. Read on for honestpuck's capsule description of each.
Tales From The Perilous Realm
author
J.R.R. Tolkein
pages
192
publisher
Harper Collins
rating
9
reviewer
Tony Williams
ISBN
0261103431
summary
Excellent short stories and poetry from a master story-tellet
Farmer Giles of Ham
This is a marvelous tale of a reluctant, and accidental, hero and a dragon who doesn't quite live up to the stereotype. The style is a little old fashioned, making it seem more like the fairy tales of your childhood than even The Hobbit, with a dry sense of humour. That said, it also seems to be the hardest for a child to enjoy (my sample size is only two, however), though personally I liked it when I first read it and enjoy it still.. It is the longest of the four works and by far the earliest written and published, 1949.
The Adventures of Tom Bombadil
The Adventures is a collection of 16 assorted poems, most are either partially quoted or referred to in The Lord Of The Rings. The poems are a mixed bag, ranging from the short and amusing "Oliphaunt" through to the more adult and wistful "The Last Ship" that closes the collection. All are enjoyable for the adult reader, some enjoyable for children.
Iâ(TM)ve never really liked Tolkienâ(TM)s verse when he tries to be serious, in this collection I only really like "Oliphaunt."
Leaf By Niggle
The shortest of the three stories, in this one Niggle, whose dreams far
outweigh his talent, sets out to paint the perfect tree and is caught up
in his own variation of the Pygmalion myth (though it is a tree that comes to life.) It is a marvelously written tale that unfolds
beautifully.
Smith of Wootton Major
My favourite of them all, a tale in which Smith voyages to the land of the faeries via a magical cake. Another story that revolves around the
dreams and fantasies in a life. This one is a perfect fairy tale and perfect for reading aloud to a small person, full of magic and charm and
whimsy it brings to mind everything I loved about The Hobbit.
Conclusion
While the three tales and 16 poems all have their differences there is
certainly a distinctive style across them all. Just a little
old-fashioned, a little formal - in fact almost exactly how you'd expect
an Oxford Professor to write fiction. This volume is worth reading, and
an enjoyable read but does not quite have the magnificence of language
in The Lord of The Rings nor the wonderful light touch of well-crafted
children's tale in The Hobbit. They are good short pieces, that sort of excellence is hard to craft into such short works.
Anyone who enjoyed The Hobbit will find this a wonderful volume. Tolkein
always talked of writing both The Hobbit and The Lord of The Rings as a
way of creating truly English myth and fairy tales (he felt that Arthur
was too much a tale borrowed from the French). While both of those 'grew
in the telling,' this small volume gives us three marvelous (and English
in feel) fairy tales and some good poetry. A must for all Tolkein fans.
Tales from the Perilous Realm is harder to find than Tolkein's better-known works, but is available from online merchants including
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Sorry, just watched the DVD again, didn't see him. Anything other than the movie just isn't canon. :P
I think the reluctance of shops to stock Prof Toliens other material is because of the constant issues of his dad's notes and half finished tales that Christopher Tolkien dished out for so many years. I think the LotR is brilliant, but I haven't got time to read through anyones 'works in progress'.
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First post, in Elvish.
Hoist Number One and Number Six.
It should be noted though that the sales of his other books have risen. They obviously just havn't sold as much as the LoTR series.
Did anyone else read this as just a very long title? Goes to show that commas still have importance in the English language.
Think of a Jesus Christ figure prancing through the woods with golden curls who defeats his enemies through song... then you have Tom Bombadill. Truly, a king among middle earth men. :D
One of my favorite childhood memories is my dad reading The Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings out loud to me and my younger brother. I'm glad other people are doing that with their kids also, and it's cool that there are more Tolkein stories to delve into. :)
The Simarillian is a must-have for anyone interested in Tolkien's world. It was actually his FIRST work, predating the Hobbit, but people told him it wouldn't sell. It was an ongoing work and his son (Christopher) edited and published it after his death.
It goes through all the history from "In the Beginning there was darkness" sort of Genisis to the final history of Aragorn and Arwen. There you learn about where Gandolf comes from, what the Wizards really are (same tier of age as Balrogs, interestingly) as well as Soron's predecessor, Melkor.
Repeat VERY GOOD BOOK TO HAVE!!!!
Murray Todd Williams
Less we forget Tolkiens translation of the Pearl Poet's, 'Sir Gawain and the Green Knight'? That poem kicks ass (atleast as far as a poem can kick one's ass, that is)!
Serious Tolkien readeres will probably be interested in Christopher Tolkien's "History of Middle-Earth" and the other publications which have been released.
Everyone else probably will have comparatively little use for them. If you haven't read the "Silmarillion", I wouldn't even bother picking them up; on the other hand, if you want a "first-hand" look at how the Lord of the Rings was constructed, "The History of Middle-Earth" is very insightful (and will give you a lot of extra-geeky trivia to throw around).
I have read "Smith of Wotton Major" and "Farmer Giles of Ham", and to throw in my two bits I think they're both wonderful stories. "Farmer" is at times outright hilarious, as the above reviewer indicates the humor is dry; I found it thoughly entertaining.
"Smith" is another matter. I think it's a wonderful story, too, but it's a "fey-story" in the old sense, which means it's actually a little creepy at times. I loved it as a child, but found it a little disturbing. Recently reading it (~8 months ago) I thought it absolutely beautiful, and decidely bittersweet.
Another story not in this collection that's very recommended for both whimsical adults and any child is "Roverandom", which is a wonderful fantasy about a lost toy dog who ends up in the company of wizards...
dont forget _The Silmarillion_ and _The Lays of Beleriand_. The Silmarillion is required reading for anyone interested in the culture and mythology of Middle Earth. Besides, _The Silmarillion_ was Tolkien's life's work and the trilogy was based on the stories in this tome.
I remember reading a couple of months back that some researcher requested someo f Tolkein's papers from the Oxford archives, and found within it a line-by-line translation of Gilgamesh, in Tolkein's own hand, with his comments. The article said that the translation was to be published this summer. I can find no reference to this on the web, however.
Anyone else here of this?
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Also worth noting is that Tolkin was one of the original translators of the New Jerusalem Bible.
yes... yes... I know that many of you don't believe in God, etc. But, hopefully, you'll recognize that translating the entire Bible to English is quite an accomplishment for one of our favorite authors. And, just maybe, you'll even appreciate how happy it makes us Christians to have this great author bring his talents to scripture.
Then again, maybe I'll just get modded to oblivion...
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My favourite of them all, a tale in which Smith voyages to the land of the faeries via a magical cake.
That happened to me at the office Christmas party! Someone tooks photos and then put them up on the notice board. It was really embarassing.
An earlier recopilation of most of this tales (without the one about Tom Bombadil) was Tree and Leaf (or at least, in spanish, was "Arbol y Hoja", that can be easily found in bookstores here in Uruguay). Of this 3 tales, the one I remember more is Leaf, by Niggle, is just the kind of tale that remembers you that Tolkien was a great writer even without the Middle Earth.
Every year for 23 years, Tolkien wrote his children a letter from Father Christmas, from the late 20's into the 40's. The great depression and WWII get mentioned in passing, but Father Christmas always triumphs.
This one is good for reading to children, with wonderful pictures by Tolkien. For older children, you can sprinkle in a bit of history by telling why Father Christmas had such trouble delivering toys in 1932, and so on. For the Tolkien fancier, the book gives some insight into the author's mind. For example, my edition has samples of the ``elvish writing'' which Father Christmas sent to the children.
See what I've been reading.
Mmmm... Brownies...
"The Silmarillion is a must-have for anyone interested in Tolkien's world. It was actually his FIRST work. [spelling corrected]
The book entitled "The Silmarillion" is actually one of JRR Tolkien's LAST works. He never finished it before his death, although he intended to.
To confuse matters, the body of myth that Tolkien started on before "The Hobbit" is also called the Silmarillion. In other words, there are two. The books on the writing of Tolkien's books are careful to distinguish the two.
Technically, it is not true that the book "The Silmarillion" predated The Hobbit"
Don't blame Durga. I voted for Centauri.
Q: Why aren't all these other books as popular?
:)
A: Because they aren't as good as LOTR.
Duh.
Personally I hated the LOTR trilogy and I can't see why any of it is popular. It is a crude and awkward reading experience. Sure, it is the grandfather of fantasy - but it is by no means the best.
I am mostly a science fiction fan, but my favorite fantasy book ever is "Magician" by Raymond E. Feist. Highly recommended even to those (like myself) that otherwise hate the genre. There are a bunch of books in the series, with prequels and sequels. All the books are seriously good, well written, very pleasant reading experience.
"Magician". In store now! Get it today!
I hate to be anal on this, but you really should have checked a bit... It seems you were talking about "Bored of the Rings" and "The Sillibillion" instead of the real works..
Repeat after me:T O L K I E N, not Tolkein
S I L M A R I L L I O N, not Silmarillian
G A N D A L F, not Gandolf
S A U R O N, not Soron.
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I refuse to read anything "by Niggle".
Tolkein can promote his white power agenda elsewhere, the dirty scum skinhead nazi sympathiser.
You do know he betrayed the allies during WWII, dont you?
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This is definitely NOT a childrens book. It is absolutely crammed with in-jokes that are firmly directed at linguists and philologists and other academics.
For example, when Tolkien talks about Farmer Giles' blunderbuss, he makes a point of saying that people might not know what a blunderbuss is, then goes on to say the "the four wise clerks of Oxenford" define it as . This is lifted EXACTLY from the then-current edition of the the Oxford English Dictionary.
The dry, pedantic style was also directed at the similar style employed by academics.
Also, one has to remember that this was written in the aftermath of one of the most terrible wars the country had ever seen, and also came at the end of rationing in the UK, and despite the style, FGoH is a rollicking great belly laugh, definitely one of JRRT's really intelligent works.
BTW, was going through my papers last night and found my old copies of JRRT's poems, "Imram," which chronicles the travels of Saint Brendan, and "The Lay of Aotrao and Itroun", a very dark epic poem in the Breton tradition, which I copied by hand from the original manuscripts back in the '70s. As far as I know these have never been published, which is a shame, as they are both excellent works...
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"The Tolkien Reader" (I don't know if it's still in print; I bought my copy back in the 1970s) contains Farmer Giles, The Adventures of Tom Bombadil, Tree and Leaf (an essay on fairy tales), and Leaf by Niggle.
After all these years I still haven't read Smith but am looking forward to doing so soon.
When I read this odd section of the book I always find Tom to be a rather creepy character. He seems to eminate power and is able to see into the future, yet he chooses to pacify his enemies though the most gentle of means (by singing!). As mysteriously as he appears, he is quickly forgotten and plays no other important part in the book. He is somehow 'above' the petty, earthly issues of the dark lord and the one ring and sees no reason to alter the forseen course that history will take. I suppose like so many other characters in LotR, Tom is an idealized figure, whose actions are constrained by the nature of his being. Otherwise, why would he not just prance down to Mordor and sing a little toon for Sauron? :D
One wonders what Lucas would have done with Tom... CGI extravaganza showdown with Sauron!
Bullet time anyone??? :::shudder:::
Some years ago, I received this book as a gift from my girlfriend.
I can neither argue the claim, that the language is simpler, nor can I claim, that I find the stories as full as the more well-known works.
What _did_ catch me, though, was the direct narration of the stories. The poems about the venerable mr. Bombadil is a different story, as they refer to the universe of LotR, but the other stories seem, at least to me, to tell stories of important weight as to ethics and morale, and yet not tranfer the entire story to a universe of his own design, but to merely use the common notion of a parallel world of fairies, formalised by him as the world of Faerie, but known to most people already.
To me, that is what separates those stories from his more well known works, but I dare the proposition, that it makes those stories more relevant, as they are so much easier to relate to!
"The number you have dialed is imaginary. Please rotate your phone 90 degrees and try again."
"Repeat after me: T O L K I E N, not Tolkein
S I L M A R I L L I O N, not Silmarillian"
10. Who's that guy Fordo Prefect?
9. Tolkien got Golem from Yiddish myth, right?
8. Stan Lee should sue: Tolkein got "Sauron" from the X-Men Savage Land comics.
7. Captain Kirk battled Aragorn on Star Trek.
5. What's that bad wizard and the guy with the eye? I never get the two straight: Sarmon and Souron? Souromon and Sauromon? Whatever.
4. If you call me with a technical support question about your Tolkien Ring network, I WILL hang up on you.
3. Brie: cheese or town?
2. Fangorn is that horror movie magazine!
1. "Teleporno". Well, this one is correct: it is a real name in the Tolkien works. This is the one that should be wrong!
Don't blame Durga. I voted for Centauri.
Farmer Giles of Ham is a treat, and rather counteracts the impression that Tolkein puts too much faith in nobility. /.ers make this claim ?
Offtopic, but just for bragging points, I actually met Tolkein although i was too young to remember virtually anything of that. Can any other
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"Farmer Giles of Ham is a treat"
especially on a sandwich. mmmmmmmmm. ham sandwich.....
To review Leaf by Niggle becomes a lot easier when you remember that Tolkien was a devout Catholic and a confirmed Englishman. From Niggle it also becomes clear that he was a man who loved his hobby of writing Middle Earth stories but still felt obliged to be a good host -- while himself occasionally enjoying reciprocating the demand! -- and a good neighbour. It also becomes clear that he sometimes wondered if there was any long term value in either his work (the arcane study of English language and literature) or his hobby (Et EÃrello Endorenna Ãtulien!).
The Journey is Niggle's impending death. Parish is his most immediate opportunity to practice Christian charity and neighbourliness. Packing for the journey is the practice of spiritual disciplines.
One could go on but ought not do so without acknowledging that Tolkien himself claimed to hate allegory wherever he could found it. Nonetheless, the story is much more enjoyable when you look at it from a point of view that acknowledges Tolkien's Christianity and uses it to interpret the various pieces of the work. What we are hearing, I believe, is Tolkien's whisperings in the Confessional Box, but instead of being obscured to the point of unintelligibilty, as velvet-lined walls would do, it's hidden in a form that Tolkien would never have used for any kind of story other than this one: a confession or a spiritual autobiography.
And don't we all want to be considered cases for Gentle Treatment?
Still hoping for Gentle Treatment...
As I see it, I am strucked with awe, when I am made aware of the more subtle hints, but I still maintain, that the true beauty of his works is, that although he has crammed in a lot of material for the academics, he has managed to do it in a way, that still leaves his works open to children!
"The number you have dialed is imaginary. Please rotate your phone 90 degrees and try again."
....is that Tolkien kept his characters simple but created a complex world (middle earth)for them to inhabit. As a natural story teller, Tolkien realized that kids and adults alike enjoy living vicariously though charcters in books. Frodo is the 'everyman'. He doesn't have superpowers, super strength, or even super looks :D Because of this, we the reader are able to imprint our emotions onto Frodo and other characters as they wade through the perilous and mysterious place of middle earth.
Another view is that Middle Earth is a recreated 'history' of ancient England. Before there were Knights and dragons, there was middle earth. A land which was rural, simple, non-industrialized. Where everyone had a pipe to smoke, a story to tell by the fire, and a garden to tend to: an idealized time.
IMO reading LOTR is like taking a relaxing walk though a field on a summers day (as corny as that may be!). Its not about the destination, but the journey(and what you see, smell, and eat along the way).
"The Hobbit" TV cartoon
"Lord of the Rings: Part 1" Bashki's movie cartoon
"Lord of the Rings: Part 2" TV Cartoon
"Lord of Rings" Jackson trilogy
"JRR Tolkien INVENTED several languages just so he could use phrases here and there in reference in the books"
No, he said he "took the initiative in creating" the languages during his CNN interview. The idea that he invented the languages is made up by Republicans.
Its like trying to pick which Shakespeare's work is the best.... they're all the best! :)
Tolkien.co.uk gives Feb/03 as the publication date.
Clem.
" found Silmarillion to be a really heavy read. I could never sit still very long to read it. I solved this by leaving it on the back of the toilet, now I'm making good progress on it"
Are you making progress by reading the pages, or using them when the TP is out?
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All four of these were released previously as "The Tolkein Reader"
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And this by fans of a linguist.
You must be that guy Boromir, son of Faramir, Lord of Gondor. Right?
Uh, Now is the best time to read to them... The sooner you start reading to them, the more likely they are to start reading(heavily) on their own.
Food not Bombs is a nice platitude but it breaks down when you notice that the Bombees are usually well fed
The titles of these books remind me of the Monty Python bookstore skit... No, "Rarnaby Budge" by Charles Dikkens. That's Dikkens with two Ks, the well-known Dutch author. Do you have "Leaf By Niggle" by ....
That's okay, how about "Smith of Wootton Major" by ....
Dr. Rick
- "It's such a fine line between clever and stupid" (Nigel Tufnel)
- Zort! (Pinky)
Most of these tales are in a softcover book called the "Tolkien Reader". I picked up a copy of this a few months ago at my local chain bookstore, so it should be more easily found than "Tales from the Perilous Realm."
I have to agree with the reviewer about the poem section. I got the book wanting to read more about Bombadil but ended up quite disapointed. "Leaf by Niggle" was very enjoyable.
Please see this link. John Galt was an asylum superintendent with revolutionary ideas.
Don't get caught reading "Leaf by Niggle" in some areas. The title is believed to be intended to disparage African-Americans, and reading it can be considered to be a hate crime.
Well, hello Mister FANCY PANTS!
Just had to post this.
Gollum accepting his award.
Or at least Tolkien must have been aware of the similarities with this hero of the Finnish Kalevala when he was writing his poems. The Kalevala wizards employed a style of magic much like Bombadil's. The Bombadil poems read, unfortunately, like a rather watered down and less earthy copy of the orginal.
I think it's probably significant that the Bombadil chapters occur so early in LotR, when Tolkien was casting about for a theme. He was trying to create a new English folkore, and the Kalevala was an obvious model, having virtually redefined the Finnish national identity when it was published. The Bombadil chapters of LotR just feel like an unsuccessful graft from a different story. Indeed while with some effort Tolkien managed to accomodate Bombadil in his world by giving him an unique role in it, he rather ignores Goldberry, whose nature is equally problematic.
The simplest answer is that they both belong to a different story, one that Tolkien thought he might be writing before he found his own voice in Rivendell.
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LDS stuff is not real scripture. It was made up by some guy in the 1800s who wanted to create a new religion so he could have more wives.
In creating the new religion, he exploited the racists attitudes then so common about the American Indian: part of this was the idea that the Indians were too inferior to have built those mounds, so others (such as Israelites) had to have done it.
It is sort of like Scientology, but from a century before that.
is that the stories of the Silmarillion aren't really meant to be read, like the published forms of the Hobbit and LotR are.
The Silmarillion is meant to be told, out loud, in the manner of a bard in the king's hall, reciting and performing before a crowd. Modern readers find the style dry because they're used to having the facial expressions and voice tones spelled out in the text, or shown to them on television. If you read the stories aloud, you find that they're not so dry after all.
You cannot apply a technological solution to a sociological problem. (Edwards' Law)
"The "Lord of the Rings" came first. "The Hobbit" was created latter to explain how Bilbo came to possess the one ring."
No, you have it all wrong. Ralph Bakshi created "The Lord of the Rings". J.R.R. Tolkien obtained the rights to do the movie adaptation, which ultimately became more succesful than the film.
On a parellel track, "The Hobbit" story and characters were created by Romeo Muller as he wrote the screenplay for the Rankin-Bass telefilm also called "The Hobbit". Yes, it was the same guy who gave us Rudolph and the Heat Miser. Romeo got some of his ideas from the Bakshi movie. In fact, his Balrog was just an attempt to get his beloved Heat Miser into the film.
Romeo copied so well that some think that these stories are related when they are made up by different people and linked by unpunished plagiarism.
J.R.R.Tolkien, by then a popular adaptation novelist, obtained the rights also to write "The Hobbit", which he tied even more closely to "The Lord of the Rings" which he had adapted previously.
...I'd seriously consider negotiating for the rights to Farmer Giles of Ham and/or Smith of Wootton Major, plus lesser-known (still very good) stories like Roverandum and Mr. Bliss, to be done as animated features. =)
:-)
Given the way these stories are written, they almost BEG to be done as animated features. Farmer Giles of Ham done under the right producing/directing team at Disney could be one very fun movie to watch (they can borrow the drawing style of Pauline Baynes, the original illustrator of the book) and Mr. Bliss is almost perfect as a Pixar feature. How about it, folks?
(P.S. I know Tolkien back in the 1950's had qualms about Disney animation, but Disney has shown since 1995 they can go with very different drawing styles successfully, styles that he probably would have approved.)
"You speak as one who has never read it, who has a very small amount of information garnered from casual conversation who is now an expert."
No, I speak as one who has read it and rejects it. There is something quite fallacious about your idea "to read it is to believe it".
"If he did write it, he's a genious and a prophet (much of what's in there couldn't have been know in the early 1800's"
He wrote it. Of course, he is a genius to be able to concoct a work of fiction and bamboozle people into believing it is true. When it comes to being a prophet, however, he is just as good as Jeanne Dixon.
There were many crackpots in those days making up religions in order to get sex, money, and power. Few of them have survived to this day.
Funny how they corrected it after I pointed it out then modded me down -2 for Offtopic.
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6. No, not sex. Six.
Oops.
6. Galadriel? Isn't that an air-freshener?
(It was either that, or something that involved how Tolkien ripped off "Sword of Shannara".)_
Don't blame Durga. I voted for Centauri.
unlike Brooks, at least Tolkien did not name his wizard after a detox program.
Don't blame Durga. I voted for Centauri.
I read 4 boring books, and now you suggest I read a compelation of boring shit?
Look, I like a good story, I have always liked to read. But Tolkien has a way of taking FOREVER to get to a point, WAY over descriptive and tedious.
Give me Bradbury, Clarke, a Linux Guide, Anything but his longwinded fairy tales.
The other works of Tolkein very enjoyable. I sugget reading the other tales to everyone else. The books are good times abd quick reading. Infact, with reading this article I think i will go read them again. Enjoy!
My favorite story from "Unfinished Tales" is "The Quest of Erebor", which describes the meeting of Gandalf and Thorin before the start of "The Hobbit", and provides an interesting insight into "The Hobbit" and LotR.
Try getting out more. Date some girls.
He is a truly great author. But whenever I enter a used book store, the first thing I look for is Bored of the Rings, by the Harvard Lampoon.
It's as though the Holy Bible had a concise and well written parody. But please, only read it if you enjoy laughing...
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" These are the same type of ignorant groups that go by the name of arian nation or kkk. "
The Mormons were the ones who were more the racists back then. They said that the Native Americans were too stupid to build the mounds that they built, so they made up the story that "white" Israelites did it.
Now there's a truly fascinating series. Tolkien's son Christopher has edited and commented on a good deal of his father's work related to Middle Earth. As far as I know, this is the only instance of chronicling the development of such a vast story as the Silmarillion and LOTR.
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Danny.
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"The fairy story may be made a vehicle of Mystery.
That at least is what George MacDonald attempted,
achieving stories of Power and Beauty
when he succeeded." (J R R Tolkien)
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"When you read LOTR, you realize that the timeline for those three books is 11 months,"
It might have taken you 11 months to read them, but the timeline within the context of the books is many years!
See The Lord of the Rings Chronology:
3001 September 22 Bilbos farewell party and his subsequent departure from the Shire (Fellowship of the Ring)
3019 January 17 The Company comes to Caras Galadon in the evening.
The chronology cuts off at this point, but you will see that this is 18+ years just for the first book.
Don't blame Durga. I voted for Centauri.
The idea that you need bad in order to showcase good is some lame philosophical idea that sounds impressive to an 8th grade Jr. High student, but that collapses when you think about it for more than four seconds.
You don't need murder and torture to know that a flower is good. It's just a silly notion that, actually, exposes what an evil S.O.B. "the lord" is.
It may be in the nature of a good and powerful being to create lesser self-aware beings, but it does not follow that one puts them in a world where they can harm each other.
Ergo, God is evil. Stand with me brothers and make that judgement!
Once you accept that, it's just a small step to concluding He, or It, doesn't really exist, and all religion collapses into what would be clownish behavior, were it not so supremely murderous and thuggish throughout history, right up thru 9/11 and beyond.
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This book was originally called The Tolkien Reader in 1966. My copy is from 1978.
The only difference is that The Tolkien Reader has The Homecoming of Beorhtnoth, and Beorhelm's Son; where as Tales From The Perilous Realm has Smith of Wootton Major.
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"....and take nothing in context"
The context of the creation of the "Book of Mormon" was a time when America was deep in the belief in "manifest destiny" and the inferiority of the Native peoples.