Try reading my post. It is a step backwards to take a single image and generate fake data from it, when we already have real data from multiple stereo images!
The article calls for the data to be kept private until they are more sure about the orbit of the object supposedly to prevent alarming people by giving a false alarm. This IMO is dumb.
My reading indicates that they have quite an extensive peer review system of professional and amateur individuals checking the data and attempting to re-observe the objects. The system, if you RTFA, is designed to find large objects a LONG time before they hit. The raw data is keep somewhat private until they review it in a few days and then it is released. However, almost immediately after the data is processed they release several possible orbits that can be checked by observers on the other side of the planet before local sunrise. So, in a nutshell, your whole post in pointless.
So, NASA has been taking stereo images since the beginning and making true 3D models, and now Microsoft has figured out how to make fake stereo images and fake 3D models?... Um, nice step backwards?
An asteriod 2" in size would be a significant impact if it hit you on the head! However, they can't watch EVERYTHING. They have to draw the line somewhere. 1km seems to be the size needed to possibly wipe out all life on Earth. Yes, 1/2km would do a lot of damage and kill a lot of the population of Earth, but some would still survive the initial impact. I would assume once all the 1km NEOs are charted by 2008 that they would move on to the smaller ones. Also, as shown by this article, they found a 30m and now know its orbit. It's not like they are just throwing out the data for objects smaller than 1km if they happen to find them. Such small objects, however, are not the focus of the search.
IF time travel can ever be possible, why on Earth would it have that limitation? If we actually knew that such a limitation existed, that would mean we already know how to time travel! Where do people come up with this stuff? *sigh*
That's why you can configure it. You are arguing that SA give you too many tools. Let me ask you this: why is my toolbox full of tools when 90% of the time I only use the screwdriver? (Hint, it has to do with the other 10%).
This just in! Children are not being taugh all of the knowledge contained in the universe in school! When pressed for comment, the school said "Time is finite". We'll be sure to get more info on this conspiracy in the next hour, stay tuned!
Oh, come on. We're not interested in facts here. It's much more interesting to claim that a bunch of rocket scientists don't know what they're doing and that "we" are smarter than they are! Didn't you get the memo?
Oh, come on, the safety issues are NOT nonsense. In order to go to Hubble, they would need to have two shuttles ready to launch at the same time so they can go up and rescue the first shuttle if it has a problem. If they both have problems, then they are both screwed. And no, you can't get to the space station from Hubble's orbit. Now, if they go to the space station, they can at least live up there until other launch vehicles come and rescue them. The safety concerns are completely valid.
As a firefighter, I have to ask the question of what happens when it burns. If all these toxins are intentionally captured into the paint, are they released when it burns? Would this mean that people will have even less time to escape from a fire?
For a second, like the other reply, I thought you were talking about making a fleet of knock-offs to send to Mars. However, an RC car style robot kit would be pretty cool. I did see that NASA is releasing a lego kit of the current rovers. I would think a reduced scale MER would also be nice to have, especially if you could get a basic big track level unit cheap and upgrade it with cameras, sensors, wireless and a navigation system as add-ons.
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To service Hubble, NASA would need to have 14 astronauts and two shuttles on the pad ready to launch at the same time. For the cost of that, you could launch another Hubble or two. That is the primary common sense reason they decided to cancel the mission, including the fact that a replacement will be available in only a few years.
Bush has been in charge for three years this month and conservatives are still blaming everything bad on Bill Clinton. It's unbelievable.
Yes, because immediately after a president enters office, of course the entire economy and world policital environment changes overnight. It not going to take years to fix problems, oh no! I just love the instant gratification society we live in that doesn't understand that certain things happen to take time to fix. Of course, a democrat will probably be elected just about the time that things are improving to claim the rewards. "Look, I stepped into office and everything is suddenly fine! It must have been me!" *sigh*
In a related study, average people have discovered that global cooling will destroy less than, equal to or greater numbers of species. The average people in question, just like the researchers of this study, are also unable to prove whether the Earth is warming or cooling as part of a normal process, but felt the need to release statements (on paper which destroys trees) to show people they can do horrible things to Earth on a computer too.
'The problem is a lack of highly educated workers willing to work for the minimum wage or lower in the U.S.'
Yes, says the person who gets paid probably hundreds of thousands of dollars a year to reap the rewards of the hard work done by "those greedy software programmers". Man that really burns me up.
If you pay minimum wage for a job to be done, you will get minimum wage quality.
So why is it that we still don't have an open source project that truely does what tivo does? MythTV and similar projects are close but no bananna.
The primary reason you can't match Tivo exactly is because the open source project participants do not have access to identical custom hardware. The hardware is what is key for keeping up with video data rates, recording while watching, etc. If EchoStar has indeed stolen the exact design of the custom hardware Tivo uses then more power to Tivo. However, I imagine this will all boil down to what is essentially a software patent issue. Remeber software patents, those evil things? Tivo is pulling a SCO, plain and simple. They specifically state they want license fees!
If you think so, but if I didn't want to bother with a laptop I wouldn't want to bother with a video device either. You have to take both out of a bag, you have to have room to view them, you have to feel weird that your neighbor is watching it too, and your arm is going to get tired holding either if you are standing. Actually, while sitting a laptop is much easier on the arms. Laptops also have the advantage that they close with the screen in, protecting it, while the mockup video device seemed to lack any protection. At that point, you might as well get a tablet PC.
*sigh* They've clearly explained that these photos are taken through filters and they have calibration targets on the lander for, you guessed it, calibration. Using the filters, they take color separations at different light frequencies and combine them to most accurately represent the "real" color. Knowing how the surface is reflecting different frequencies of light has huge scientific advantages over black and white. However, they also explain that no two people in the world see color exactly the same, never mind trying to adjust for atmosphere, the light temperature, etc, etc, etc on another planet. A standard has to be set at some point and that it folks. Mars reflects the frequencies of light that are red. That could be why it's called "the red planet" but I don't want to confuse you with extra information. I would assume the scientists have access to the individual color separations which this color image was generated from. Frankly, they probably don't care about the lack of information to your eye, because they have must more useful image processing tools that perform actual science on the frequency reflection data.
I hate convergence. Why do I have to be forced to carry around my PDA when I don't want to because it's built into my phone? Why would I want to be forced to carry around a book sized video screen just to listen to MP3 when there are very small alternatives? Why do I want a POS camera on my phone? I'll carry my good camera when I want to take pictures. I like the option to pick and choose what to carry. Covergence generally means you take two good products, cram them together and get one item that is 2/3 the total combined size and 1/2 as good at doing each of the things the original two products did. Some people will accept this because it's sometimes cheaper, others like myself are more interested in separate devices that are very good at doing one thing.
This reminds me of software design. Build your classes to do one thing and do it well. When you start making uber-classes which try to do everything, your design goes to hell. I believe the same applies to general product design.
Sorry, but most commuters who could afford this type of luxury item would already own a laptop for said commute. The rest of the people on the bus can't afford either.
The light distance to Mars is currently only 9 minutes and 40 seconds. That's usually about the same lag I get these days due to all the spam and worm traffic hear on Earth.
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Try reading my post. It is a step backwards to take a single image and generate fake data from it, when we already have real data from multiple stereo images!
The article calls for the data to be kept private until they are more sure about the orbit of the object supposedly to prevent alarming people by giving a false alarm. This IMO is dumb.
My reading indicates that they have quite an extensive peer review system of professional and amateur individuals checking the data and attempting to re-observe the objects. The system, if you RTFA, is designed to find large objects a LONG time before they hit. The raw data is keep somewhat private until they review it in a few days and then it is released. However, almost immediately after the data is processed they release several possible orbits that can be checked by observers on the other side of the planet before local sunrise. So, in a nutshell, your whole post in pointless.
So, NASA has been taking stereo images since the beginning and making true 3D models, and now Microsoft has figured out how to make fake stereo images and fake 3D models?... Um, nice step backwards?
$3,970.00 USD??
Not really all that expensive actually, given that it's a desktop and a handheld.
An asteriod 2" in size would be a significant impact if it hit you on the head! However, they can't watch EVERYTHING. They have to draw the line somewhere. 1km seems to be the size needed to possibly wipe out all life on Earth. Yes, 1/2km would do a lot of damage and kill a lot of the population of Earth, but some would still survive the initial impact. I would assume once all the 1km NEOs are charted by 2008 that they would move on to the smaller ones. Also, as shown by this article, they found a 30m and now know its orbit. It's not like they are just throwing out the data for objects smaller than 1km if they happen to find them. Such small objects, however, are not the focus of the search.
IF time travel can ever be possible, why on Earth would it have that limitation? If we actually knew that such a limitation existed, that would mean we already know how to time travel! Where do people come up with this stuff? *sigh*
That's why you can configure it. You are arguing that SA give you too many tools. Let me ask you this: why is my toolbox full of tools when 90% of the time I only use the screwdriver? (Hint, it has to do with the other 10%).
This just in! Children are not being taugh all of the knowledge contained in the universe in school! When pressed for comment, the school said "Time is finite". We'll be sure to get more info on this conspiracy in the next hour, stay tuned!
Oh, come on. We're not interested in facts here. It's much more interesting to claim that a bunch of rocket scientists don't know what they're doing and that "we" are smarter than they are! Didn't you get the memo?
Oh, come on, the safety issues are NOT nonsense. In order to go to Hubble, they would need to have two shuttles ready to launch at the same time so they can go up and rescue the first shuttle if it has a problem. If they both have problems, then they are both screwed. And no, you can't get to the space station from Hubble's orbit. Now, if they go to the space station, they can at least live up there until other launch vehicles come and rescue them. The safety concerns are completely valid.
As a firefighter, I have to ask the question of what happens when it burns. If all these toxins are intentionally captured into the paint, are they released when it burns? Would this mean that people will have even less time to escape from a fire?
Um, what? Food chain, environmental ramifications???
If the submitter had RTFA, he would have read the quote from the co-author:
"We're not saying there's much danger of environmental damage, but it does pose a challenge."
The challenge is simply one of patents and scientific sharing, not the extremist (ironic no?) view described above.
For a second, like the other reply, I thought you were talking about making a fleet of knock-offs to send to Mars. However, an RC car style robot kit would be pretty cool. I did see that NASA is releasing a lego kit of the current rovers. I would think a reduced scale MER would also be nice to have, especially if you could get a basic big track level unit cheap and upgrade it with cameras, sensors, wireless and a navigation system as add-ons.
To service Hubble, NASA would need to have 14 astronauts and two shuttles on the pad ready to launch at the same time. For the cost of that, you could launch another Hubble or two. That is the primary common sense reason they decided to cancel the mission, including the fact that a replacement will be available in only a few years.
Bush has been in charge for three years this month and conservatives are still blaming everything bad on Bill Clinton. It's unbelievable.
Yes, because immediately after a president enters office, of course the entire economy and world policital environment changes overnight. It not going to take years to fix problems, oh no! I just love the instant gratification society we live in that doesn't understand that certain things happen to take time to fix. Of course, a democrat will probably be elected just about the time that things are improving to claim the rewards. "Look, I stepped into office and everything is suddenly fine! It must have been me!" *sigh*
In a related study, average people have discovered that global cooling will destroy less than, equal to or greater numbers of species. The average people in question, just like the researchers of this study, are also unable to prove whether the Earth is warming or cooling as part of a normal process, but felt the need to release statements (on paper which destroys trees) to show people they can do horrible things to Earth on a computer too.
My bad on the italics and I missed who actually said the quote. So, is Scott Kirwin being ironic or just stupid?
'The problem is a lack of highly educated workers willing to work for the minimum wage or lower in the U.S.'
Yes, says the person who gets paid probably hundreds of thousands of dollars a year to reap the rewards of the hard work done by "those greedy software programmers". Man that really burns me up.
If you pay minimum wage for a job to be done, you will get minimum wage quality.
So why is it that we still don't have an open source project that truely does what tivo does? MythTV and similar projects are close but no bananna.
The primary reason you can't match Tivo exactly is because the open source project participants do not have access to identical custom hardware. The hardware is what is key for keeping up with video data rates, recording while watching, etc. If EchoStar has indeed stolen the exact design of the custom hardware Tivo uses then more power to Tivo. However, I imagine this will all boil down to what is essentially a software patent issue. Remeber software patents, those evil things? Tivo is pulling a SCO, plain and simple. They specifically state they want license fees!
If you think so, but if I didn't want to bother with a laptop I wouldn't want to bother with a video device either. You have to take both out of a bag, you have to have room to view them, you have to feel weird that your neighbor is watching it too, and your arm is going to get tired holding either if you are standing. Actually, while sitting a laptop is much easier on the arms. Laptops also have the advantage that they close with the screen in, protecting it, while the mockup video device seemed to lack any protection. At that point, you might as well get a tablet PC.
*sigh* They've clearly explained that these photos are taken through filters and they have calibration targets on the lander for, you guessed it, calibration. Using the filters, they take color separations at different light frequencies and combine them to most accurately represent the "real" color. Knowing how the surface is reflecting different frequencies of light has huge scientific advantages over black and white. However, they also explain that no two people in the world see color exactly the same, never mind trying to adjust for atmosphere, the light temperature, etc, etc, etc on another planet. A standard has to be set at some point and that it folks. Mars reflects the frequencies of light that are red. That could be why it's called "the red planet" but I don't want to confuse you with extra information. I would assume the scientists have access to the individual color separations which this color image was generated from. Frankly, they probably don't care about the lack of information to your eye, because they have must more useful image processing tools that perform actual science on the frequency reflection data.
My god, perhaps they are censoring the stuff we already saw in the low resolution black and white photos! Holy crap, those bastards!
I hate convergence. Why do I have to be forced to carry around my PDA when I don't want to because it's built into my phone? Why would I want to be forced to carry around a book sized video screen just to listen to MP3 when there are very small alternatives? Why do I want a POS camera on my phone? I'll carry my good camera when I want to take pictures. I like the option to pick and choose what to carry. Covergence generally means you take two good products, cram them together and get one item that is 2/3 the total combined size and 1/2 as good at doing each of the things the original two products did. Some people will accept this because it's sometimes cheaper, others like myself are more interested in separate devices that are very good at doing one thing.
This reminds me of software design. Build your classes to do one thing and do it well. When you start making uber-classes which try to do everything, your design goes to hell. I believe the same applies to general product design.
Sorry, but most commuters who could afford this type of luxury item would already own a laptop for said commute. The rest of the people on the bus can't afford either.
The light distance to Mars is currently only 9 minutes and 40 seconds. That's usually about the same lag I get these days due to all the spam and worm traffic hear on Earth.
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