I'm using Netscape 4.70 right now, and it works pretty well! If my boss ever DOES decide to scrap it he'd probably switch to IE 5.5 or higher. Upgrading isn't always an option in a business setting.
I doubt that he has any problem with people borrowing his books from libraries, but I know his opinion of people who STEAL his books from libraries, and I can't repeat it here. You're not old enough to hear such language! I'M not old enough to hear such language!
In places like Malaysia, Singapore and Thailand people regularly have to use masks that allow them to breathe, specially during the burning of fields in Indonesia (look for "haze" and the name of each country).
And yet, in the evil US, source of all pollution, we don't wear gas masks yet!
Y2K may have been overhyped, but it was a serious issue. If all the problems I fixed in 1999 had hit all at once in Jan 2000, maybe the world wouldn't have ended, but what passes for my social life would have.
I also use Slackware & vi, but I do NOT drive a stick, and I pay Jiffy Lube to change my f'in oil! I also realize that some people have the same idea about computers as I do about my car. For me, Slackware is easier than RH because there's less to get in the way, but many people prefer RH's extras.
I'll call you out on that. For the majority of Windows users (which is what you are talking about), you need KDE3 to get equivelant friendliness. And KDE3 needs as much resources as an XP system. Don't tell me it doesn't, go and try it. KDE3 is unrunnable on a 48MB machine, and you'd have to be a masochist to want to use it with 64MB. 96 is the practical minimum, 128 is about right. Use anything less than KDE3 and you're sacrificing user friendliness, which (for most users) is a step backwards. In fact, for ease of use, I'd rate KDE3 alongside Win98SE. Win98SE runs fine in 32MB. So does fvwm95, but I'd (sorry) pick Win98SE over that for a general purpose system for
The big difference is that you CAN choose to run fvwm95. You can't choose to run Win98 unless it came with your old clunker.
100% of the clients? Hmm, I could have sworn I was posting this with Netscape 4.70! And I thought my home PC used Mozilla 1.0! That's at least 2 less than 100% right there!
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1) Linux doesn't get viruses BECAUSE no one is writing viruses for linux. I know it's a tautology, but were Linux to take off, I think we'd see an interest from the script-kiddie
development centers of the world. Linux doesn't have the critical mass to support a worldwide virus. No Outlook - no virus.
If Linux became popular we might see some viruses at first. They'd probably target user data because without root access they couldn't hurt the system. They'd likely be RH specific since it's the most popular. Soon afterwards, those holes would be closed. Users would web-surf under a dummy user with no access to their real data. Non-RH users would snicker at RH, but even RH wouldn't be vulnerable long.
2) The worst element of the Web is interested in reaching the largest group possible. A lot of the rules simply don't apply to Linux users as long as they stay in the 1%. It's the same reason I secretly hope Mozilla never gets into popular use. As long as it stays a 1% browser, I can block images from ad servers and most of the web is ad-free for me. If everyone had Mozilla, more site would host ads locally or use Flash instead of images, and I'd be out of luck.
The bad thing about being 1% is when your online bank decides to become IE-only. Its far easier to convince them otherwise if you have hundreds of other PO'd customers griping, than it is if you're the only one.
Walmart is interested in one thing. MONEY!!! Bill Gates charges $$$.$$ for each Windoze machine. Walmart can get one Mandrake cd for $$.$$ and put it on as many machines as they want.
I agree! The "more advanced" tools found in RH or Debian sometimes work ok but they can break the system. I only broke my Slack system once, and I was able to "unbreak" it without any problems.
I like to get something that compiles & runs ASAP, test what I have, add a little code & test that, add some more code & test that. That way, when something breaks, I know it's probably the last bit of code I added.
Usually, software is released too quickly without enough testing. Awhile back my boss was on my case because I kept saying my program wasn't ready yet. Eventually I said it was ready. A month later, some of the other projects were hitting snags, but my stuff kept chugging away.
In my time online I've encountered 2 viruses. One was at work. Apparently someone had gotten infected despite the 6 warning about that exact virus from Security and sent it to me! I suspect she got a warning about opening love letters. The other one was at home. I actually opened that one, but just saw odd characters and text that said "This program cannot be run in DOS mode". Mutt is somewhat limited for running Win-Viruses.:)
If Kenobi could have flown, he would have after that bounty hunter shot that flying ball he was hanging on to. Yoda never truly flew either, he just controlled his high-speed jumps.
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I'm using Netscape 4.70 right now, and it works pretty well! If my boss ever DOES decide to scrap it he'd probably switch to IE 5.5 or higher. Upgrading isn't always an option in a business setting.
I doubt that he has any problem with people borrowing his books from libraries, but I know his opinion of people who STEAL his books from libraries, and I can't repeat it here. You're not old enough to hear such language! I'M not old enough to hear such language!
Are you saying computer manuals AREN'T written by demons? We must not be reading the same manuals!
Y2K may have been overhyped, but it was a serious issue. If all the problems I fixed in 1999 had hit all at once in Jan 2000, maybe the world wouldn't have ended, but what passes for my social life would have.
I also use Slackware & vi, but I do NOT drive a stick, and I pay Jiffy Lube to change my f'in oil! I also realize that some people have the same idea about computers as I do about my car. For me, Slackware is easier than RH because there's less to get in the way, but many people prefer RH's extras.
I wouldn't be too happy if I asked my doctor when my sore throat would get better and he told me "RTFM" and pointed at a medical text!
Esperanto? I've read that more people speak Klingon than Esperanto!
The big difference is that you CAN choose to run fvwm95. You can't choose to run Win98 unless it came with your old clunker.
The problem is that code optimized for the Pentium might run SLOWER on a K6 than 386 code does.
If they do, our geeks will send them back to the stone age!
100% of the clients? Hmm, I could have sworn I was posting this with Netscape 4.70! And I thought my home PC used Mozilla 1.0! That's at least 2 less than 100% right there!
If Linux became popular we might see some viruses at first. They'd probably target user data because without root access they couldn't hurt the system. They'd likely be RH specific since it's the most popular. Soon afterwards, those holes would be closed. Users would web-surf under a dummy user with no access to their real data. Non-RH users would snicker at RH, but even RH wouldn't be vulnerable long.
The bad thing about being 1% is when your online bank decides to become IE-only. Its far easier to convince them otherwise if you have hundreds of other PO'd customers griping, than it is if you're the only one.
Microsoft Bob!
Not if it hits in the Middle East!
DOES it always run as root? Or is it just a stupid default that you can change?
Walmart is interested in one thing. MONEY!!! Bill Gates charges $$$.$$ for each Windoze machine. Walmart can get one Mandrake cd for $$.$$ and put it on as many machines as they want.
As opposed to Windows Update, which didn't even work right the last time I used it (admittedly a long time ago).
Is there any reason you're using such an old version? Slack 8.0 should install on old, crappy machines if you're careful what you install.
I agree! The "more advanced" tools found in RH or Debian sometimes work ok but they can break the system. I only broke my Slack system once, and I was able to "unbreak" it without any problems.
I like to get something that compiles & runs ASAP, test what I have, add a little code & test that, add some more code & test that. That way, when something breaks, I know it's probably the last bit of code I added.
Usually, software is released too quickly without enough testing. Awhile back my boss was on my case because I kept saying my program wasn't ready yet. Eventually I said it was ready. A month later, some of the other projects were hitting snags, but my stuff kept chugging away.
In my time online I've encountered 2 viruses. One was at work. Apparently someone had gotten infected despite the 6 warning about that exact virus from Security and sent it to me! I suspect she got a warning about opening love letters. The other one was at home. I actually opened that one, but just saw odd characters and text that said "This program cannot be run in DOS mode". Mutt is somewhat limited for running Win-Viruses. :)
If Kenobi could have flown, he would have after that bounty hunter shot that flying ball he was hanging on to. Yoda never truly flew either, he just controlled his high-speed jumps.