" Bill Gates just doesn't want all this bolts to be standardized." Actually he and MS simply and truly believe that their standards are what the industry needs. MS see's itself as the means by which the standards you speak of will be reached in the software industry. Thus his argument that weakening their grip on such 'standards' would be catastrophic to the software industry.
If you think this, you're naive. What Bill Gates and other Microsoft representatives say in public, and what they think and discuss in private, are completely different things.
One thing that is certain about Bill and Microsoft is that they are great strategists. They chose to make the MS Word 'standard' (for instance), really difficult for others to interpret, not because, as you say they "simply and truly believe that their standards are what the industry needs", but because it locks competitors out. But of course, they would never say that, rather they would point out how great it is that everyone has "standarized" on Word, so you don't get incompatibility problems.
I've heard on several occasions that MS R&D has developed a version of Office that works with open, easy to interpret XML formats. But Bill shat on the project because it would be nuts for MS to allow others in the industry to be able to read their formats.
Ideally Bill wants Microsoft "standards" that only work with Microsoft software, and for nobody else in the industry to be able to use their "standards". This is not what the industry needs!
You mean the way IE 3 was cheaper and every bit as good as Netscape? Then how IE 4 was light years beyond Netscape, and still free?
You're kind of making my point yourself. The only way Microsoft could really catch up with Netscape was by giving away a product for free. Sure, they were competing on price - they had to, to survive. The price was zero. Now, imagine they had to do that with all their products. They wouldn't survive long.
Why don't Dell, HP, Compaq etc. put StarOffice as default on their PCs? I'm sure Sun would love that. Many customers would probably love it too. But Microsoft will do whatever they can to prevent PC manufacturers from doing this. Why? Because otherwise, the decision Joe User has to make is, do I want to keep using StarOffice that came or free on my PC, or do I want to pay $500 to get Microsoft office? You'd quickly find lots of small companies and individual users using StarOffice, and it would begin to take off. That kind of thing must absolutely scare the pants off Microsoft. You can't compete on price when things come for free with a new PC - that's why Microsoft must control that and not the PC manufacturers. Otherwise, MS are fucked.
I think the issue is that Microsoft doesn't WANT to expend the time, effort, and MONEY to develop such an OS; not that it isn't possible.
I don't think the issue is about effort or money. It's about control. They don't want a modular windows where Dell could remove IE and replace it with Mozilla. That kind of thing scares the pants off them because it means they have to start competing on quality and price, rather than just using their OS monopoly to force stuff on consumers.
Just like it's *possible* to sell a 'modular car' it would be insane
Cars are to some extent modular.
If I buy a Volvo car, I can put on tyres from another manufacturer, or the windscreen, oil filter, spark plugs, paint, in fact you could change the engine if you wanted. I am not forced to use Volvo tyres, or Volvo spark plugs, paint etc.
I have read that in the early days of the industrial revolution, manufacturers used to do things like vary the treading and size of bolts so that it forced you to buy components from them - you couldn't bolt on parts from other manufacturers because their bolts wouldn't match the threads. Eventually, people realised that this was crazy and these days we have standards for virtually everything in engineering.
Software is still at a more primitive stage. Bill Gates just doesn't want all this bolts to be standardized.
The constitution of the US revolutionized the concept of freedom throughout the world.
Do they teach you this stuff at school? Do you not teach you anything about before the founding of the USA, or about other countries?
I don't want to sound demeaning, but Americans who say these things just sound ignorant. Please find out a bit about other countries and their history.
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The basic differences are:
Suse is by fat, sausage scoffing crauts. Mandrake is by irritating, garlic loving frogs. Red Hat is by noisy, burger munching Yankees.
I've had several Sony Vaio notebooks, and have been very happy with them. They are not the cheapest, but the build quality is good and they look the part, and they work nicely with other Sony kit.
I've currently got a PCG-GR215SP. I want to put Linux on it but am afraid that it might have proprietry hardware that will screw up the install. Has anyone reading this got Linux running on one of the latest Sony Vaio machine? I know people have done it on earlier ones, but can't find anything on the web about installing on a machine like the PCG-GR215SP.
No -- It's a pity you don't bother to research before posting. 21 is the legal age for ownership of a handgun in the US (this is federal law), which is what most of you rabid-anti-gunners are most afraid of.
Well, you don't understand my European liberal weenie mentality. My logic was, your law makers ban alcohol for under 21s because it causes death. Guns cause death. It's a pity your law makers don't ban guns.
Over here, EVERYONE gets a car/driver's license when they turn 16
Really? Wow. That's cool. You don't have to take a test or anything? Great! And I suppose it doesn't matter if you're partially sighted. Cool! Let's all go to America.
The age that you can get a licence in Europe depends on the country. I got mine just after my 17th birthday in the UK.
You're badly outdated... perhaps in the 40s... not anymore.
It depends what you consider Europe. Of the countries currently in the European Union, then Extramadura is still one of the poorest regions. If you include the countries in Eastern Europe that might enter in the Union in the next round, then you're right.
Even so, Extramadura has been very poor even until quite recently - certainly much more recently than the 40's. Here's a paper from someone at the Universitat Pompeu Fabra, Barcelona, which says Extramadura had a GDP 50% lower than the European average in the 1990s. So sorry, it is still a very poor place, even recently. This is just a fact. I have relatives there and can vouch for the fact that there's still a lot of poverty there.
I'm sure someone reading this in MW, or a local LUG, has a spare few hours and a hundred dollars or so write a couple of hundred Linux CD-ROMs and post them with a clear and reasonable letter to the govenors of these schools, pointing out the benefits of OSS software.
With a little effort you'll have done a lot of good for the schools of MW and shown Microsoft for the callous bastards that they are.
Drinking a beer is absolutely the most important right that can be had. My God, the restictions placed on that fundamental right here in the US are astounding!
When I first read this I though you were being sarcastic. Then I re-read it and realised you were serious. I preferred it the first time I read it.
Things like being able to drink a beer in a bar are fundamental. They are things that affect millions of people, every day. The fact that it is a "trivial" thing demonstrates how restrictive laws in the USA are.
I'll take my constitutional rights, for a conservative stance on alchohol, thank you.
Apart from being able to carry a gun (which is a right virtually all Europeans don't want), what legal rights do you have that I don't? Please enlighten me.
God knows nothing bad ever happens in Spain [amnesty.org].
Have you looked up the USA on the Amnesty site?:
15/04/2002 USA: Treatment of prisoners in Afghanistan and Guantánamo Bay undermines human rights. 28/03/2002 USA: Amnesty International calls for investigation of alleged beating of inmate in Kentucky jail 22/03/2002 USA - Military commissions: Second-class justice 14/03/2002 USA: Post 11 September detainees deprived of their basic rights 04/03/2002 USA: Unnecessary death, injury and pain caused by the use of restraint chairs
21/02/2002 USA: As President Bush visits China, he should reflect on an execution looming at home 13/02/2002 USA: Executions would indicate empty rhetoric of State of the Union address 05/02/2002 USA: Amnesty International to tour jails housing post September 11 detainees - but access to federal detention facility "stonewalled" 04/02/2002 Philippines: Human rights must be respected to secure peace and stability in southern Philippines 01/02/2002 Afghanistan: Urgent action needed on prison conditions 22/01/2002 USA: Amnesty International requests access to Guantánamo base 18/01/2002 Bosnia-Herzegovina: Letter to the US Ambassador regarding six Algerian men 17/01/2002 USA: Arbitrary, discriminatory, cruel, futile -- 25 years of judicial killing 17/01/2002 Bosnia- Herzegovina: Transfer of six Algerians to US custody puts them at risk 15/01/2002 USA: AI calls on the USA to end legal limbo of Guantánamo prisoners 10/01/2002 Afghanistan/USA: Prisoners must be treated humanely 19/12/2001 USA: Mumia Abu-Jamal - Overturning of death sentence falls short of full justice 11/12/2001 USA: Marking "Human Rights Week" with two executions 03/12/2001 USA: Human rights must not be sacrificed for security 29/11/2001 USA: No return to execution. New AI report on the US death penalty as a barrier to extradition 15/11/2001 USA: Presidential order on military tribunals threatens fundamental priniciples of justice 06/11/2001 USA: Seven o'clock shadow - First New Mexico execution since 1960 due; Georgia set to kill mentally ill man 26/10/2001 Afghanistan: Accountability for civilian deaths 23/10/2001 USA: Amnesty International calls for respect of detainees' rights in wake of 11 September 22/10/2001 USA: USA set to break a global consensus - execution of a child offender due tonight 11/10/2001 CIS: Central Asia on the brink of a human rights crisis 10/10/2001 Afghanistan: Amnesty International calls for prompt investigation into civilian deaths 24/09/2001 USA: Amnesty International urges Bush administration to maintain human rights standards in response to 11 September attacks, and warns of looming humanitarian crisis in Afghanistan 20/09/2001 USA/The World: Justice must not be the next casualty
1. The story of the girl who got 'thrown out' of school for opposing military action is not a matter of American law. It's a matter of an overzealous school administrator. Do not take this an example that our entire society feels this way, for it's not true.
I didn't say it was a legal issue. It's an example of the intolerance of others that's pervasive in American society. Even though you have your strong principals of freedom of speech, your society is very intolerant of anyone that doesn't to the line, and your media is consistent in it's limited breadth of viewpoints.
2. Far more people drive cars in the United States than do in Spain. There is therefore a valid line of reasoning for limiting people's access to alcohol until they reach 21 years of age... the less irresponsible young drunk drivers on our roads, the fewer alcohol-related automotive fatalities.
(It's a pity your law makers don't have the same attitude towards guns...)
Anyway, I think the statement "Far more people drive cars in the United States than do in Spain" may just demonstrate a tiny bit of a confused view of the world, no? Do you think most people ride around on donkeys in Spain? According to the most recent statistics I can find (from 1995), there's the same level of car ownership in Spain as the United Kingdom, and a higher level than in Japan.
In Russia, and in much of Europe, where controls on government intervention in the religious/ideological sector of the economy are not so stringent, the government is free to oppress scientologists, and does so. Read about it at the OCRT website. [freefind.com] Other governments use these same powers to quell political dissent, which is why in our society we have had the good sense to deny the government these powers.
I find it funny to read Americans spout this kind of stuff. From the outside, American society and law seems much less forgiving about people who have different viewpoints that many other countries, such as Russia and European countries. A good example is that girl who was recently thrown out of school for opposing what the US has been doing in Afghanistan. How intolerant does a society have to be to throw a young girl out of school for being anti-war?
It's funny. I live in Spain. Yesterday I was in a bar with some friends and a couple of American tourists. One of the tourists pointed a finger at my friend and in a suprised voice asked "are you legal?" After a bit of confusion we realised that he was asking my friend if she was old enough to drink in a bar. The girl was twenty. You cannot imagine how ridiculous it sounds to us here that in America an adult of twenty years of age cannot drink a beer in a bar. And you think it's the land of Freedom! Ha!
Appears that these guys actually have their own Linux distribution called Linex. I think this is actually the distribution that will be distributed to schools etc. I expect it is based on Debian.
If you can read Spanish, there's more discussion about this on the Spanish version of Slashdot, Barrapunto And here's the Extramadura LUG.
It's great they have their "own" version of Linux - people are more likely to use it because they are proud of their region. Of course because 95% of people are clueless when it comes to computers, they will probably think that it has been invented there, just as many people believe Bill Gates invented "Windows". But in this case it's a good thing if people use it out of pride and it boosts uptake of Linux.
By the way, Extramadura is I believe the poorest region of Europe, not just Spain. But they have great weather, wine and food there, and the people really know how to have a good time (which could be why it's one of the poorest regions...)
The accomplishment is also a dramatic statement of contrasting scientific and technology priorities in the United States and Japan. The Japanese machine was built to analyze climate change, including global warming, as well as weather and earthquake patterns. The United States has predominantly focused its efforts on building powerful computers for simulating weapons.
may be not in the USA, but in the UK they are. They both are accusations that you masturbate, I believe. I believe you Americans say "jerkoff" or something like that.
Well of course I don't know much about you, but I think many educated people who consider themselves law-abiding would be tempted by a "white-collar fraud" where the rewards are big and the chances of getting caught very small.
were going to see a mydrid of posts condeming this as entrapment. No one forces these people to commit these crimes. So what have we to fear?
I wonder what it would take to entrap you? We all have our limits. I bet it would be possible to devise a situation in which you would knowingly break the law. Where do you draw the line?
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" Bill Gates just doesn't want all this bolts to be standardized." Actually he and MS simply and truly believe that their standards are what the industry needs. MS see's itself as the means by which the standards you speak of will be reached in the software industry. Thus his argument that weakening their grip on such 'standards' would be catastrophic to the software industry.
If you think this, you're naive. What Bill Gates and other Microsoft representatives say in public, and what they think and discuss in private, are completely different things.
One thing that is certain about Bill and Microsoft is that they are great strategists. They chose to make the MS Word 'standard' (for instance), really difficult for others to interpret, not because, as you say they "simply and truly believe that their standards are what the industry needs", but because it locks competitors out. But of course, they would never say that, rather they would point out how great it is that everyone has "standarized" on Word, so you don't get incompatibility problems.
I've heard on several occasions that MS R&D has developed a version of Office that works with open, easy to interpret XML formats. But Bill shat on the project because it would be nuts for MS to allow others in the industry to be able to read their formats.
Ideally Bill wants Microsoft "standards" that only work with Microsoft software, and for nobody else in the industry to be able to use their "standards". This is not what the industry needs!
You mean the way IE 3 was cheaper and every bit as good as Netscape? Then how IE 4 was light years beyond Netscape, and still free?
You're kind of making my point yourself. The only way Microsoft could really catch up with Netscape was by giving away a product for free. Sure, they were competing on price - they had to, to survive. The price was zero. Now, imagine they had to do that with all their products. They wouldn't survive long.
Why don't Dell, HP, Compaq etc. put StarOffice as default on their PCs? I'm sure Sun would love that. Many customers would probably love it too. But Microsoft will do whatever they can to prevent PC manufacturers from doing this. Why? Because otherwise, the decision Joe User has to make is, do I want to keep using StarOffice that came or free on my PC, or do I want to pay $500 to get Microsoft office? You'd quickly find lots of small companies and individual users using StarOffice, and it would begin to take off. That kind of thing must absolutely scare the pants off Microsoft. You can't compete on price when things come for free with a new PC - that's why Microsoft must control that and not the PC manufacturers. Otherwise, MS are fucked.
I think the issue is that Microsoft doesn't WANT to expend the time, effort, and MONEY to develop such an OS; not that it isn't possible.
I don't think the issue is about effort or money. It's about control. They don't want a modular windows where Dell could remove IE and replace it with Mozilla. That kind of thing scares the pants off them because it means they have to start competing on quality and price, rather than just using their OS monopoly to force stuff on consumers.
Just like it's *possible* to sell a 'modular car' it would be insane
Cars are to some extent modular.
If I buy a Volvo car, I can put on tyres from another manufacturer, or the windscreen, oil filter, spark plugs, paint, in fact you could change the engine if you wanted. I am not forced to use Volvo tyres, or Volvo spark plugs, paint etc.
I have read that in the early days of the industrial revolution, manufacturers used to do things like vary the treading and size of bolts so that it forced you to buy components from them - you couldn't bolt on parts from other manufacturers because their bolts wouldn't match the threads. Eventually, people realised that this was crazy and these days we have standards for virtually everything in engineering.
Software is still at a more primitive stage. Bill Gates just doesn't want all this bolts to be standardized.
The constitution of the US revolutionized the concept of freedom throughout the world.
Do they teach you this stuff at school? Do you not teach you anything about before the founding of the USA, or about other countries?
I don't want to sound demeaning, but Americans who say these things just sound ignorant. Please find out a bit about other countries and their history.
Actually I regret posting this now. I have a lot of respect for the Germans and the Americans.
The basic differences are:
Suse is by fat, sausage scoffing crauts.
Mandrake is by irritating, garlic loving frogs.
Red Hat is by noisy, burger munching Yankees.
Take your pick.
I've had several Sony Vaio notebooks, and have been very happy with them. They are not the cheapest, but the build quality is good and they look the part, and they work nicely with other Sony kit.
I've currently got a PCG-GR215SP. I want to put Linux on it but am afraid that it might have proprietry hardware that will screw up the install. Has anyone reading this got Linux running on one of the latest Sony Vaio machine? I know people have done it on earlier ones, but can't find anything on the web about installing on a machine like the PCG-GR215SP.
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No -- It's a pity you don't bother to research before posting. 21 is the legal age for ownership of a handgun in the US (this is federal law), which is what most of you rabid-anti-gunners are most afraid of.
Well, you don't understand my European liberal weenie mentality. My logic was, your law makers ban alcohol for under 21s because it causes death. Guns cause death. It's a pity your law makers don't ban guns.
Over here, EVERYONE gets a car/driver's license when they turn 16
Really? Wow. That's cool. You don't have to take a test or anything? Great! And I suppose it doesn't matter if you're partially sighted. Cool! Let's all go to America.
The age that you can get a licence in Europe depends on the country. I got mine just after my 17th birthday in the UK.
You're badly outdated... perhaps in the 40s... not anymore.
It depends what you consider Europe. Of the countries currently in the European Union, then Extramadura is still one of the poorest regions. If you include the countries in Eastern Europe that might enter in the Union in the next round, then you're right.
Even so, Extramadura has been very poor even until quite recently - certainly much more recently than the 40's. Here's a paper from someone at the Universitat Pompeu Fabra, Barcelona, which says Extramadura had a GDP 50% lower than the European average in the 1990s. So sorry, it is still a very poor place, even recently. This is just a fact. I have relatives there and can vouch for the fact that there's still a lot of poverty there.
I'm sure someone reading this in MW, or a local LUG, has a spare few hours and a hundred dollars or so write a couple of hundred Linux CD-ROMs and post them with a clear and reasonable letter to the govenors of these schools, pointing out the benefits of OSS software.
With a little effort you'll have done a lot of good for the schools of MW and shown Microsoft for the callous bastards that they are.
When I first read this I though you were being sarcastic. Then I re-read it and realised you were serious. I preferred it the first time I read it.
Sorry I meant that the other way around. My mistake.
Drinking a beer is absolutely the most important right that can be had. My God, the restictions placed on that fundamental right here in the US are astounding!
When I first read this I though you were being sarcastic. Then I re-read it and realised you were serious. I preferred it the first time I read it.
Things like being able to drink a beer in a bar are fundamental. They are things that affect millions of people, every day. The fact that it is a "trivial" thing demonstrates how restrictive laws in the USA are.
I'll take my constitutional rights, for a conservative stance on alchohol, thank you.
Apart from being able to carry a gun (which is a right virtually all Europeans don't want), what legal rights do you have that I don't? Please enlighten me.
God knows nothing bad ever happens in Spain [amnesty.org].
Have you looked up the USA on the Amnesty site?:
15/04/2002 USA: Treatment of prisoners in Afghanistan and Guantánamo Bay undermines human rights.
28/03/2002 USA: Amnesty International calls for investigation of alleged beating of inmate in Kentucky jail
22/03/2002 USA - Military commissions: Second-class justice
14/03/2002 USA: Post 11 September detainees deprived of their basic rights
04/03/2002 USA: Unnecessary death, injury and pain caused by the use of restraint chairs
21/02/2002 USA: As President Bush visits China, he should reflect on an execution looming at home
13/02/2002 USA: Executions would indicate empty rhetoric of State of the Union address
05/02/2002 USA: Amnesty International to tour jails housing post September 11 detainees - but access to federal detention facility "stonewalled"
04/02/2002 Philippines: Human rights must be respected to secure peace and stability in southern Philippines
01/02/2002 Afghanistan: Urgent action needed on prison conditions
22/01/2002 USA: Amnesty International requests access to Guantánamo base
18/01/2002 Bosnia-Herzegovina: Letter to the US Ambassador regarding six Algerian men
17/01/2002 USA: Arbitrary, discriminatory, cruel, futile -- 25 years of judicial killing
17/01/2002 Bosnia- Herzegovina: Transfer of six Algerians to US custody puts them at risk 15/01/2002 USA: AI calls on the USA to end legal limbo of Guantánamo prisoners
10/01/2002 Afghanistan/USA: Prisoners must be treated humanely
19/12/2001 USA: Mumia Abu-Jamal - Overturning of death sentence falls short of full justice 11/12/2001 USA: Marking "Human Rights Week" with two executions 03/12/2001 USA: Human rights must not be sacrificed for security
29/11/2001 USA: No return to execution. New AI report on the US death penalty as a barrier to extradition
15/11/2001 USA: Presidential order on military tribunals threatens fundamental priniciples of justice
06/11/2001 USA: Seven o'clock shadow - First New Mexico execution since 1960 due; Georgia set to kill mentally ill man
26/10/2001 Afghanistan: Accountability for civilian deaths
23/10/2001 USA: Amnesty International calls for respect of detainees' rights in wake of 11 September
22/10/2001 USA: USA set to break a global consensus - execution of a child offender due tonight
11/10/2001 CIS: Central Asia on the brink of a human rights crisis
10/10/2001 Afghanistan: Amnesty International calls for prompt investigation into civilian deaths
24/09/2001 USA: Amnesty International urges Bush administration to maintain human rights standards in response to 11 September attacks, and warns of looming humanitarian crisis in Afghanistan
20/09/2001 USA/The World: Justice must not be the next casualty
1. The story of the girl who got 'thrown out' of school for opposing military action is not a matter of American law. It's a matter of an overzealous school administrator. Do not take this an example that our entire society feels this way, for it's not true.
I didn't say it was a legal issue. It's an example of the intolerance of others that's pervasive in American society. Even though you have your strong principals of freedom of speech, your society is very intolerant of anyone that doesn't to the line, and your media is consistent in it's limited breadth of viewpoints.
2. Far more people drive cars in the United States than do in Spain. There is therefore a valid line of reasoning for limiting people's access to alcohol until they reach 21 years of age... the less irresponsible young drunk drivers on our roads, the fewer alcohol-related automotive fatalities.
(It's a pity your law makers don't have the same attitude towards guns...)
Anyway, I think the statement "Far more people drive cars in the United States than do in Spain" may just demonstrate a tiny bit of a confused view of the world, no? Do you think most people ride around on donkeys in Spain? According to the most recent statistics I can find (from 1995), there's the same level of car ownership in Spain as the United Kingdom, and a higher level than in Japan.
In Russia, and in much of Europe, where controls on government intervention in the religious/ideological sector of the economy are not so stringent, the government is free to oppress scientologists, and does so. Read about it at the OCRT website. [freefind.com] Other governments use these same powers to quell political dissent, which is why in our society we have had the good sense to deny the government these powers.
I find it funny to read Americans spout this kind of stuff. From the outside, American society and law seems much less forgiving about people who have different viewpoints that many other countries, such as Russia and European countries. A good example is that girl who was recently thrown out of school for opposing what the US has been doing in Afghanistan. How intolerant does a society have to be to throw a young girl out of school for being anti-war?
It's funny. I live in Spain. Yesterday I was in a bar with some friends and a couple of American tourists. One of the tourists pointed a finger at my friend and in a suprised voice asked "are you legal?" After a bit of confusion we realised that he was asking my friend if she was old enough to drink in a bar. The girl was twenty. You cannot imagine how ridiculous it sounds to us here that in America an adult of twenty years of age cannot drink a beer in a bar. And you think it's the land of Freedom! Ha!
Wow! $7 for a click-through. That's got to be asking for trouble.
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If I was a competitor, I would just spend all day repeatedly clicking on their link...
That's right:
barra = slash
punto = dot
barrapunto = slashdot
Appears that these guys actually have their own Linux distribution called Linex. I think this is actually the distribution that will be distributed to schools etc. I expect it is based on Debian.
If you can read Spanish, there's more discussion about this on the Spanish version of Slashdot, Barrapunto And here's the Extramadura LUG.
It's great they have their "own" version of Linux - people are more likely to use it because they are proud of their region. Of course because 95% of people are clueless when it comes to computers, they will probably think that it has been invented there, just as many people believe Bill Gates invented "Windows". But in this case it's a good thing if people use it out of pride and it boosts uptake of Linux.
By the way, Extramadura is I believe the poorest region of Europe, not just Spain. But they have great weather, wine and food there, and the people really know how to have a good time (which could be why it's one of the poorest regions...)
Interesting comment from the SJ Mercury
The accomplishment is also a dramatic statement of contrasting scientific and technology priorities in the United States and Japan. The Japanese machine was built to analyze climate change, including global warming, as well as weather and earthquake patterns. The United States has predominantly focused its efforts on building powerful computers for simulating weapons.
wankers (not a bad word)
tossers (not a bad word)
may be not in the USA, but in the UK they are. They both are accusations that you masturbate, I believe. I believe you Americans say "jerkoff" or something like that.
Devise a situation, I'm curious.
Well of course I don't know much about you, but I think many educated people who consider themselves law-abiding would be tempted by a "white-collar fraud" where the rewards are big and the chances of getting caught very small.
**bhe*ds = nubheads
Actually it was nobheads. Perhaps that's not a word in the USA. It's quite common in the UK.
were going to see a mydrid of posts condeming this as entrapment. No one forces these people to commit these crimes. So what have we to fear?
I wonder what it would take to entrap you? We all have our limits. I bet it would be possible to devise a situation in which you would knowingly break the law. Where do you draw the line?