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You ignore the fact that "Google" and "to google" share the meaning of searching for information. It has nothing to do with upper case and lowercase. I suspect that the trademark applies regardless of case.
The false analogy you use simply points out that homographs exist in English. If "ford" also meant drive, then your analogy would work.
The site should simply acknowledge the trademark and let the entry on the site stand as a testament to fad words. I can't see it lasting until the next edition of the OED.
Actually, yes, I will correct you and give a reference.:-)
My previous comment was from memory but after your comment, I did go check my books. The source is McMurtrie, Douglas. C. The Book: The Story of Printing & Bookmaking, New York: Oxford University Press, 1943. Third Ed. (rev.).
Out of print but should be used copies around, it is (or was) a standard reference in printing history. Check B&N
From p. 95ff.:
Not only block printing but also movable types originated in China. The Chinese invention of separate types antedated the experiments of Gutenberg by more than four hundred years. The inventor was Pi Sheng, and his types were made of baked clay and not of metal. As the event is of major importance in cultural history, I am quoting the original record in full, as translated from the essays of Shen Kua, a Chinese writer who was contemporary with the invention and possibly a personal friend of the inventor...[here follows a very long quotation from Shen Kua.]
Other Chinese historians confirm the record of Pi Sheng's invention. Types are also reported to have been made of tin, but these, as well as the earthenware types, did not work well with the watercolour ink. So wooden types were made, in spite of the objections which Pi Sheng had raised against them. There is a record of the making of wooden types in 1314 by Wang Cheng, who first cut the characters on a block of wood and then sawed them apart. Wang is said to have arranged his types in a case in the form of a revolving table and to have provided something over sixty thousand types for the printing of a book on agriculture, and other works.
There is quite a bit more on earlier use of type in Asia, including Korea, but I won't quote it entirely as there is 15-pages-worth.
So you stand corrected and so do I. I had forgotten this, so thanks for making me look it up.
Are you sure about this? My understanding was that early (pre-Gutenburg) Chinese presses didn't have sorts, because with the sheer size of the Chinese writing system, they wouldn't have been efficient with the level of technology to produce wooden blocks. But I'm willing to be corrected (with a reference, preferably).
Good call. As it stands what I wrote is misleading. I did not mean that the Chinese had a sort for each ideograph -- what I meant was that they had invented the idea of the forme containing movable page elements plus furniture.
Actually, he didn't even invent moveable type. The Chinese did that with wooden blocks much earlier and there were existing printing presses that used moveable blocks.
Also, there were prior claimants to the "invention" in Europe, such as Laurens Coster in Haarlem, Netherlands, and others in Bruges, Flanders (Belgium), Avignon (Waldvogel, who is recorded as having "steel alphabets" in 1444) and Bologna.
BTW Gutenburg's "invention" was not the length of the type. It was to have cast the movable type in metal using a matrix. As he was a goldsmith and his father was the Master of the Episcopal Mint in Mainz, this was a great instance of lateral thinking, adapting technology he knew well and applying it to a new field. He would have seen coins being minted and twigged that you could print books like that.
He also designed the press (adapted from existing wine presses) and came up with an ink that was suitable for the process of printing with this type of press (the ink had to be viscous, rather than the ink used for manuscripts).
His combination of the three things meant that he could successfully exploit printing commercially. So Gutenburg was probably the first to exploit it commercially, although he wasn't very successful (5 years (1450-1455) isn't a long time to have a revolutionary business). This fact has ensured that he is credited with the invention of modern printing.
In Australia today, police can enter your house and search for guns, copy the hard drive of your computer, seize records, and do it all without a search warrant.
Bzzzzt. Wrong answer. Police need a search warrant to enter your house to search for anything.
Port Arthur (a Tasmanian resort)
Bzzzzt. A resort, yeah right. It's a collection of ruins that is a tourist attraction.
crime Down Under has escalated
Bzzzt. To quote from the Aust. Bureau of Statistics : Between 1993 and 2001, there has been an 11% decrease in murders where a weapon was used over this period....while the number of victims of murder has increased slightly from 296 to 306, as a rate per 100,000 population there has been a slight decrease from 1.7 to 1.6 victims.
"And consider the fact that over the previous 25-year period, Australia had shown a steady decrease both in homicide with firearms and armed robbery - until the ban.
Funnily enough it is still decreasing, as I have just shown.
There is obviously a highly intelligent and well-read author at work (Dr. Miguel A. Faria Jr.) saying, inter alia:
"Australia remained a subject of Great British [sic]",
"the leftist Australian government" after having just described it as centre-right,
"this last one [citing the "Australian Democratic Party" [sic] -- I assume he's referring to the Australian Democrats] easily tilted the balance of power toward stringent gun control" which is totally false, as the present conservative Prime Minister introduced the bill himself.
To create a "hello world" program, follow these steps:
1. Open Project Builder (from the free Developer Tools CD that probably came with the Mac OS X CD or freely available from the Apple Developer Connection site after free registration).
2. Choose New Project from the File menu.
3. Choose C++ Tool from the Assistant window and click the Next button.
4. Type in a name for your project and click the Next button.
5. Choose Build and Run from the Build menu.
6. Watch the console.
In case you can't quite grasp this, you can find instructions in the Help menu (surprise, surprise), as well as being displayed in front of you when you first open Project Builder. You can also find it here on the Apple Developer Connection site under the tutorials. (NB This document was released with the DevTools available for the Public Beta of OS X in September 2000 (18 months before you started looking for it).
As you can see, it's ridiculously easy. (I also think it's pretty easy to write "Hello World" to display to console, but that may just be me.) So please do us all a favour and stay away from all other OSes but Windows; you see, other platforms don't need programmers like you.
Yeah, well, I suppose if you want to pay Toshiba $459 for the enhanced battery you can get 14 hours. But then again, I suppose the fact that the Libretto has a small screen (10") and a slow processor (600 MHz) contribute to that battery life (which is 4.5 hours with the standard battery BTW).
Hey, if we can fiddle with facts like that: my portable computer runs for a month on its battery with fairly heavy use. The fact that it has a 160 X 160 pixel screen has something to do with this plus the fact that it uses a 20 MHz processor. Gotta love the Palm.:-)
There are probably hundreds of laptops on the market now [powered by] Transmeta
Perhaps you might wanna tell Transmeta that, as they will probably want to advertise it on their website. At last count there were 34, and I'm being generous here by including tablets, eBook readers, and PDAs in all markets worldwide. If you want just the non-Japanese laptop market segment, it's 8.
IIRC, he also wrote in boustrophedon, and in italian, which is just crazy paranoid.
WYRI (well you recall incorrectly)--
He didn't write in boustrophedon, he wrote backwards, so it could be read in a mirror. Boustrophedon goes alternately right->left then left->right, like the ox ploughing the field that the root of the word suggests.
Funny that he should write in Italian, considering it was his native language.
I should know, I'm a medical doctor.
Remind me never to visit you when I'm ill--god knows what you'll "recall" my symptoms to be indicative of.
Bzzzzt. The collective noun "fish" can be either singular or plural. Usage also supports "fishes". q.v. SOED (2 ed.), p.757 -- "(The collect. sing. is often used as pl."
Perhaps your original sentence (i.e., English is indeed hard.) should have been followed by: "This is because English has many cases where collective nouns are used in both singular and plural forms and plurals formed by the usual process of adding -s or -es."
You ignore the very reason that computer viruses were called "viruses": their supposed similarity in behaviour with biological viruses.
If you look at your statement "whether the etymology supports its usage or not", it makes little sense, as the etymology of the computer term is the same as the biological term. There are not two words "virus" (one denoting biological virus and the other denoting computer virus), simply two definitions for the same word. The plural of the word isn't going to change according to context.
In answer to your question, Section 116 of the Australian Constitution states:
The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion, or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a qualification for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth.
For those who want to know the full story, visit http://www.abs.gov.au/websitedbs/D3110124.NSF/24e5 997b9bf2ef35ca2567fb00299c59/86429d11c45d4e73ca256 a400006af80!OpenDocument
Note particularly the section headed: ABS has not issued warnings or threats to anyone. Can anyone say: "journalistic integrity"?
In Australia, just like in the US, religious bodies provide health care services, educational institutions, and community support facilities. As such, they are eligible to apply for government grants, just as charities are eligible for them. These grants may or may not be successful, and the statistics for the proportion of a particular religious affiliation in the area concerned may be a good indicator of whether it is fair to supply the grant based on how many people in the community may be provided for.
You seem to imply that the Australian govt is in the business of building churches. Your second sentence is a non-sequitur: how, for example, does providing funding to a hospital run by a convent of Catholic nuns imply that taxation is based on religious beliefs. The funding is for a hospital, not because it's Catholic.
By your "reasoning", are we to assume that because a government provides grants to universities, that the citizens are taxed according to their educational attainments?
However, if they've got your address, employer, ethnic group, etc., it's hard to retain that in a way that doesn't make it easy to tell who you are from correlation.
No, they do not have your address on the form, there is nothing on the form itself to personally identify you (it's on a completely separate envelope). They do not have your employer's name or address, simply a question about your employment (that is the industry you work in and your employment status). The aim is to get information about you for statistical purposes only -- what census bureau is going to collate data about who works for what company?
I couldn't find any 2001 religion results on the site - I assume they're not done yet, though they've hit high-priority topics such as population and attendance at sporting events.
Think about it...this topic is in response to a post about over 70,000 people putting "Jedi" on the census form. Therefore, the information has been finished and published: I'd classify this as being "done". If you want the results, you can buy them at the ABS site.
Neither the religion nor the language sections explicitly mention Aboriginal religions or languages, though about 7000 people wrote that in on the 1996 form.
Gee, 7000 responses out of c.20 million; obvious cause for adding another option to an already long form. There are over 200 Aboriginal languages, listing them all would require a page by itself. It's hardly worth adding to the national census considering that 0.3% of Australians speak any one of them and that statistics on them are separately collected.
Oh, and BTW the code for the Aboriginal religions that "aren't explicitly mentioned" is 6011 Australian Aboriginal Traditional Religions.
For the completely uninformed, Section 116 of the Australian Constitution states:
The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion, or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a qualification for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth.
Oh, so they have laws in Australia too, as well as those cute little koalas? Gee whiz, who'da thought it!
I pity you living in the US and having such parochial views that you believe other countries do not enjoy the same freedoms as you have. But then again, I think I pity you most because you believe that these people put down "Jedi" on the form because they actually believe in a religion rather than simply as a joke.
This is really good evidence for the need for separation. in a situation like this government ends up exerting pressure in favor of or against religious beliefs.
Since when has Jedi become a religion? You seem to believe that it is, as the "aussie jerks" obviously don't know not to "pressure" an obviously well recognised "religion", unlike the good ol' US of A, where I'm sure there are plenty of card-carrying Jedi Knights proselytising their "religion" without any fear of being harassed by the government.
You need to get a handle on reality. The Australian Constitution, Section 116 states:
The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion, or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a qualification for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth.
You're missing the point. There is no Jedi religion. Therefore simply by putting "Jedi" on the census form, you have provided false information.
The official's validation of faith doesn't need to occur because there is no official recognition of the religion. They could also cite the email that did the rounds after the British census and NZ census and the fact that 70,000 other people "just happened" to write "Jedi" or "Jedi Knight" on their census forms and make a good case for your culpability.
Slashdot Mirror
I don't need to ask "Where's Waldo?" ever again...he's at Sun!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/new_me
So it will make the Earth move for you huh?
You ignore the fact that "Google" and "to google" share the meaning of searching for information. It has nothing to do with upper case and lowercase. I suspect that the trademark applies regardless of case.
The false analogy you use simply points out that homographs exist in English. If "ford" also meant drive, then your analogy would work.
The site should simply acknowledge the trademark and let the entry on the site stand as a testament to fad words. I can't see it lasting until the next edition of the OED.
Chairman of Microsoft Bill Gates announced a humanitarian donation of 1 million copies of Windows ME to Iraq.
More news at 11...
My previous comment was from memory but after your comment, I did go check my books. The source is McMurtrie, Douglas. C. The Book: The Story of Printing & Bookmaking, New York: Oxford University Press, 1943. Third Ed. (rev.).
Out of print but should be used copies around, it is (or was) a standard reference in printing history. Check B&N
From p. 95ff.: Not only block printing but also movable types originated in China. The Chinese invention of separate types antedated the experiments of Gutenberg by more than four hundred years. The inventor was Pi Sheng, and his types were made of baked clay and not of metal. As the event is of major importance in cultural history, I am quoting the original record in full, as translated from the essays of Shen Kua, a Chinese writer who was contemporary with the invention and possibly a personal friend of the inventor...[here follows a very long quotation from Shen Kua.]
Other Chinese historians confirm the record of Pi Sheng's invention. Types are also reported to have been made of tin, but these, as well as the earthenware types, did not work well with the watercolour ink. So wooden types were made, in spite of the objections which Pi Sheng had raised against them. There is a record of the making of wooden types in 1314 by Wang Cheng, who first cut the characters on a block of wood and then sawed them apart. Wang is said to have arranged his types in a case in the form of a revolving table and to have provided something over sixty thousand types for the printing of a book on agriculture, and other works.
There is quite a bit more on earlier use of type in Asia, including Korea, but I won't quote it entirely as there is 15-pages-worth.
So you stand corrected and so do I. I had forgotten this, so thanks for making me look it up.
Good call. As it stands what I wrote is misleading. I did not mean that the Chinese had a sort for each ideograph -- what I meant was that they had invented the idea of the forme containing movable page elements plus furniture.
See, there I go proving that I am no Apple insulter.
Also, there were prior claimants to the "invention" in Europe, such as Laurens Coster in Haarlem, Netherlands, and others in Bruges, Flanders (Belgium), Avignon (Waldvogel, who is recorded as having "steel alphabets" in 1444) and Bologna.
BTW Gutenburg's "invention" was not the length of the type. It was to have cast the movable type in metal using a matrix. As he was a goldsmith and his father was the Master of the Episcopal Mint in Mainz, this was a great instance of lateral thinking, adapting technology he knew well and applying it to a new field. He would have seen coins being minted and twigged that you could print books like that.
He also designed the press (adapted from existing wine presses) and came up with an ink that was suitable for the process of printing with this type of press (the ink had to be viscous, rather than the ink used for manuscripts).
His combination of the three things meant that he could successfully exploit printing commercially. So Gutenburg was probably the first to exploit it commercially, although he wasn't very successful (5 years (1450-1455) isn't a long time to have a revolutionary business). This fact has ensured that he is credited with the invention of modern printing.
In Australia today, police can enter your house and search for guns, copy the hard drive of your computer, seize records, and do it all without a search warrant.
Bzzzzt. Wrong answer. Police need a search warrant to enter your house to search for anything.
Port Arthur (a Tasmanian resort)
Bzzzzt. A resort, yeah right. It's a collection of ruins that is a tourist attraction.
crime Down Under has escalated
Bzzzt. To quote from the Aust. Bureau of Statistics : Between 1993 and 2001, there has been an 11% decrease in murders where a weapon was used over this period....while the number of victims of murder has increased slightly from 296 to 306, as a rate per 100,000 population there has been a slight decrease from 1.7 to 1.6 victims.
"And consider the fact that over the previous 25-year period, Australia had shown a steady decrease both in homicide with firearms and armed robbery - until the ban.
Funnily enough it is still decreasing, as I have just shown.
There is obviously a highly intelligent and well-read author at work (Dr. Miguel A. Faria Jr.) saying, inter alia:
- "Australia remained a subject of Great British [sic]",
- "the leftist Australian government" after having just described it as centre-right,
- "this last one [citing the "Australian Democratic Party" [sic] -- I assume he's referring to the Australian Democrats] easily tilted the balance of power toward stringent gun control" which is totally false, as the present conservative Prime Minister introduced the bill himself.
Laughable. Thanks for sharing your ignorance.PS You forgot to have a look at comparative staistics between countries: Gee, doesn't the data show what a tragedy Australian and English gun control is for children. I'll leave you to search for statistics on adult deaths; which will be higher, as the US adults "have the right to bear arms".
1. Open Project Builder (from the free Developer Tools CD that probably came with the Mac OS X CD or freely available from the Apple Developer Connection site after free registration).
2. Choose New Project from the File menu.
3. Choose C++ Tool from the Assistant window and click the Next button.
4. Type in a name for your project and click the Next button.
5. Choose Build and Run from the Build menu.
6. Watch the console.
In case you can't quite grasp this, you can find instructions in the Help menu (surprise, surprise), as well as being displayed in front of you when you first open Project Builder. You can also find it here on the Apple Developer Connection site under the tutorials. (NB This document was released with the DevTools available for the Public Beta of OS X in September 2000 (18 months before you started looking for it).
As you can see, it's ridiculously easy. (I also think it's pretty easy to write "Hello World" to display to console, but that may just be me.) So please do us all a favour and stay away from all other OSes but Windows; you see, other platforms don't need programmers like you.
Hey, if we can fiddle with facts like that: my portable computer runs for a month on its battery with fairly heavy use. The fact that it has a 160 X 160 pixel screen has something to do with this plus the fact that it uses a 20 MHz processor. Gotta love the Palm. :-)
There are probably hundreds of laptops on the market now [powered by] Transmeta
Perhaps you might wanna tell Transmeta that, as they will probably want to advertise it on their website. At last count there were 34, and I'm being generous here by including tablets, eBook readers, and PDAs in all markets worldwide. If you want just the non-Japanese laptop market segment, it's 8.
WYRI (well you recall incorrectly)--
He didn't write in boustrophedon, he wrote backwards, so it could be read in a mirror. Boustrophedon goes alternately right->left then left->right, like the ox ploughing the field that the root of the word suggests.
Funny that he should write in Italian, considering it was his native language.
I should know, I'm a medical doctor.
Remind me never to visit you when I'm ill--god knows what you'll "recall" my symptoms to be indicative of.
Perhaps your original sentence (i.e., English is indeed hard.) should have been followed by: "This is because English has many cases where collective nouns are used in both singular and plural forms and plurals formed by the usual process of adding -s or -es."
So it's you who are wrong.
Your reasoning is odd, to say the least.
You ignore the very reason that computer viruses were called "viruses": their supposed similarity in behaviour with biological viruses.
If you look at your statement "whether the etymology supports its usage or not", it makes little sense, as the etymology of the computer term is the same as the biological term. There are not two words "virus" (one denoting biological virus and the other denoting computer virus), simply two definitions for the same word. The plural of the word isn't going to change according to context.
In answer to your question, Section 116 of the Australian Constitution states:
The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion, or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a qualification for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth.
For those who want to know the full story, visit http://www.abs.gov.au/websitedbs/D3110124.NSF/24e5 997b9bf2ef35ca2567fb00299c59/86429d11c45d4e73ca256 a400006af80!OpenDocument
Note particularly the section headed: ABS has not issued warnings or threats to anyone. Can anyone say: "journalistic integrity"?
How did you arrive at this conclusion?
In Australia, just like in the US, religious bodies provide health care services, educational institutions, and community support facilities. As such, they are eligible to apply for government grants, just as charities are eligible for them. These grants may or may not be successful, and the statistics for the proportion of a particular religious affiliation in the area concerned may be a good indicator of whether it is fair to supply the grant based on how many people in the community may be provided for.
You seem to imply that the Australian govt is in the business of building churches. Your second sentence is a non-sequitur: how, for example, does providing funding to a hospital run by a convent of Catholic nuns imply that taxation is based on religious beliefs. The funding is for a hospital, not because it's Catholic.
By your "reasoning", are we to assume that because a government provides grants to universities, that the citizens are taxed according to their educational attainments?
However, if they've got your address, employer, ethnic group, etc., it's hard to retain that in a way that doesn't make it easy to tell who you are from correlation.
No, they do not have your address on the form, there is nothing on the form itself to personally identify you (it's on a completely separate envelope). They do not have your employer's name or address, simply a question about your employment (that is the industry you work in and your employment status). The aim is to get information about you for statistical purposes only -- what census bureau is going to collate data about who works for what company?
I couldn't find any 2001 religion results on the site - I assume they're not done yet, though they've hit high-priority topics such as population and attendance at sporting events.
Think about it...this topic is in response to a post about over 70,000 people putting "Jedi" on the census form. Therefore, the information has been finished and published: I'd classify this as being "done". If you want the results, you can buy them at the ABS site.
Neither the religion nor the language sections explicitly mention Aboriginal religions or languages, though about 7000 people wrote that in on the 1996 form.
Gee, 7000 responses out of c.20 million; obvious cause for adding another option to an already long form. There are over 200 Aboriginal languages, listing them all would require a page by itself. It's hardly worth adding to the national census considering that 0.3% of Australians speak any one of them and that statistics on them are separately collected.
Oh, and BTW the code for the Aboriginal religions that "aren't explicitly mentioned" is 6011
Australian Aboriginal Traditional Religions.
The question is clearly marked "Optional"...
For the completely uninformed, Section 116 of the Australian Constitution states:
The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion, or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a qualification for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth.
Oh, so they have laws in Australia too, as well as those cute little koalas? Gee whiz, who'da thought it!
I pity you living in the US and having such parochial views that you believe other countries do not enjoy the same freedoms as you have. But then again, I think I pity you most because you believe that these people put down "Jedi" on the form because they actually believe in a religion rather than simply as a joke.
This is really good evidence for the need for separation. in a situation like this government ends up exerting pressure in favor of or against religious beliefs.
Since when has Jedi become a religion? You seem to believe that it is, as the "aussie jerks" obviously don't know not to "pressure" an obviously well recognised "religion", unlike the good ol' US of A, where I'm sure there are plenty of card-carrying Jedi Knights proselytising their "religion" without any fear of being harassed by the government.
You need to get a handle on reality. The Australian Constitution, Section 116 states:
The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion, or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a qualification for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth.
Did it occur to you that the codes are simply a way of categorising the responses, not a listing of official religions?
You're missing the point. There is no Jedi religion. Therefore simply by putting "Jedi" on the census form, you have provided false information.
The official's validation of faith doesn't need to occur because there is no official recognition of the religion. They could also cite the email that did the rounds after the British census and NZ census and the fact that 70,000 other people "just happened" to write "Jedi" or "Jedi Knight" on their census forms and make a good case for your culpability.