If you're in the Portland Oregon area, check out Free Geek. www.freegeek.org.
They recylce/reuse old computers and build new ones out of old parts. Some of these they give to nonprofits. The rest, they give to the the volunteers who work there, learning how to build computers.
Under one program, you sort, identify, and diagnose parts and after 24 hours of work, you get a computer. Under another, you assemble (after being trained) 6 computers and you get to keep the 6th.
I don't know if anyone else does this kind of thing.
Re:Don't know my own password
on
Real Security?
·
· Score: 2, Funny
I'd have to first find a QWERTY keyboard, sit down, place both hands in the right position on the keys and start typing into a text editor.
I had a hell of a time in France once (I'm a USian). I couldn't log into my e-mail and I kept carefully typing my password many times. After about 15 minutes and a whole lot of profanity, I typed my password in a text editor only to realize that on that keyboard the numbers are shifted and the corresponding punctuation is non-shifted.
I'm sure it was just some fiendish French plot or something.
Isn't it ironic... most cars now have latches to let kids and gangsters out of trunks, yet now you can't get out of the car when its OS freezes? Good grief!
How many times has the Enterprise been saved (or blown up to kill bad guys) through the use of manual overrides? I should be able to get out of my car, even if the battery is drained and the computer is drained. If it's good enough for Jean Luc, it's good enough for me!
If they have AOL, maybe they only have a modem therefore no NIC and no MAC address.
It WOULD be interesting to see what was actually sent and identified wit this laptop.
Maybe when AOL installes, a uniqe ID is assigned to the device. Wells Fargo reports that laptop (and the the name of the person who would normally log in with it) to AOL, who then can watch for the computer to log in. Once it logs in with someone else's ID, they can then look up that ID's financial information, which probably has an address attached to it. They would also have the Caller-ID info for the dial-in line.
Was the Wells Fargo employee using AOL already? Or did the theif install it after the fact?
Maybe Wells Fargo should consider keeping senstive customer information on a central file server so that laptops don't end up with that data on them when they are stolen.
It sounds like a good idea, but if I'm buying hardware/software, I like to avoid vendor lock-in.
There are ways to make things secure using standard networking, but I get the feeling that Deibold doesn't feel it's worth the added expense. They probably were arrogant enough to think it would never be an issue.
(1) A display driver; any text console is sufficient, but if the banks prefer to show logos and useless graphics, fine, make it a simple framebuffer device.
You clearly haven't had the benefit of video ads given to you while you wait for your cash! I suppose they could do ascii art...
I'm not particularly religious, but I do have concerns about haphazardly creating new species of animals through genetic engineering.
On one hand, evolution results from random changes in genes and then selection through environmental pressures.
In this case, though, a new species is being created, not by a natural mutation process, but by specifically combining genes from different creatures - changes that most likely could never happen naturally. If this new species is released into the environment, it's difficult to predict what the effect might be.
We already have problems with existing species being transplanted and wreaking havoc on local environments (zebra mussels and a brine shrimp being transported by international shipping, kudzu in southern US, etc.).
While very similar to a "normal" zebra fish, this fish IS different. It's possible that this fish will be released into the wild, and the results of that are not predictable. It could displace a local population of fish that a normal zebra might not. Or it may be toxic to a predator (that does not normally eat sea anemones).
I'm not against all genetic engineering, but I think we should be very careful about creating new organisms. Of course, nature is very good at self-correction and finding equilibrium - but we might find ourselves naturally selected right off the planet by inadvertent creation of something we're not adapted to deal with.
I would imagine the electronic votes would be counted.
There would also probably be random-sample checks of various polls to make sure the tallies are the same. And if someone contests a tally, or it's really close, the paper could be used to verify the electronic count.
If you delete your yahoo account and you were silly/stupid/drunk enough to set up a geocities website, make sure you delete that web content first.
If you're like me, you give yahoo fake information on your account, so after I deleted my account, I could not get yahoo to delete my geocities webpage, nor re-instate my account.
I finally got action by contacting the "copyright violations" people. I told them that that content was mine and that I no longer wanted it on their site. They took it right down! It's hard to believe that was yahoo!
So, don't forget those co-branded services when deleting your yahoo account.
Schools don't really care if their kids can get jobs. And they really don't care about what software they use. They're too buys "teaching to the test" with the NCLB (No Child Left Behind).
NCLB is a good idea, but too many teachers I know are being told by their bosses, "teach the test".
The same bosses probably prefer more expensive software because it means they get bigger budgets to spend as they wish. No administrator wants their budgets cut, so there is no real incentive for them to start using cheap/free software.
That reminds me of a story about a guy who would walk down the street, and any good-looking woman he saw, he would as her if she wants to have sex. He said, "sure, you get slapped several times in a day, but eventually someone says yes".
I may have wrongly connected the beginning of your message, where you talked about pets, to this last part of your message.
I took it to mean that you were saying that the human-pet relationship satisfies your condition #2. I was providing examples to show that it does, in fact, violate your condition #2.
Humans MAY have relationships that satisfy your situation. When I go to the DMV to get my drivers license, I am willingly sitting there with lots of other people, who are also there willingly. But, we derive not benefit from being together.
But it does not necessarily depend on someone perceiving it.
For example, suppose I live in a not-so-nice neighborhood where it's common to have cars broken into at night. So, being unemployed, I decide to spend my nights patroling the neighborhood on the theory that my mere presence will deter the theives.
My neighbors, being hard-working types, sleep at night and have no idea that I'm spending my nights keeping their cars safe. If I am indeed successful, my neighbors derive value from me and my efforts because their cars were not broken into.
The mere fact that they are not aware of my efforts does not remove the value of those efforts.
Going back to the restaurant, at the precise time that doctor was rendering service, you were unable to perceive his value, but it was there. Somehow, at least some of his value must have been inherent because you were unable to perceive or ascertain that value at that time. You didn't know what he could do for you, but he still had value.
I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'm just trying to wrap my head around this. I believe (for what it's worth) that value can be inherent or innate, and not dependent necessarily upon someone else ascribing that value.
Maybe there are different kinds of values. One measure of value might be what someone would pay for something, requiring some kind of appraisal. In the restaurant, knowing that you have a bad heart, the host may offer to seat you near a doctor for $50. It might be worth it. But suppose your date is also a doctor. You'd probably save the $50. It seems to me that in both cases, the doctor at the table has some kind of innate value that does not depend on your appraisal of it.
But as you said earlier, Show me a relationship in nature between two animals where they spend time together with no benefit whatsoever.
I'm saying that the human-pet relationship isn't a situation where this no benefit whatsoever. In the case of my cats, I get the feeling of being needed, plus I have no mice, and fewer bugs and spiders. In return, they get a warm house, all the food they can eat, free healthcare, and regular grooming.
It's a symbiosis on multiple levels. On one, I'm exchanging my economic activity for their services of keeping pests away that I don't like. On another, they seem to satisfy some emotional needs as well. This situation is not value-less, because even at the most practical level, they are cheaper and less hazardous than mouse traps and bug poison.
Unless I know that you are going to benefit me in some way, you are presently worthless to me.
Just because you cannot perceive the value, that does not mean it is not there.
Suppose you are at a restaurant. You don't know it, but the worthless guy sitting at the next table is a doctor. You fall out of your chair, suffering from a heart attack, and become unconscious. As he gets up out of his chair and begins to administer treatment, you are presently unable to perceive his value.
When you recover and learn what has happened, you will be able to see the value of this stranger that was sitting next to you. But I would say that his value existed all-along, and not just at the moment of your awareness of it.
I don't agree with you regarding pets. I'm not saying my cats love me, because that can't be proven. But I do believe they prefer being around me rather than not.
I leave food in the bowls, and the bag of cat food could be tipped over. So, they don't need me to actively feed them. I leave a window open, so they can come and go as they please. But, when I come home, they both come and meet me at the door. One of them, even with a full food dish, likes to crawl on me as I watch movies and have me pet him. He could just as easily hang out on his own or with the other cat.
You mention animals spending time together with no benefit whatsoever. But I think rather that it is a symbiosis of sorts. I provide a comfortable, safe, well-fed environment, and they provide at least a synthetic companionship. It's good for both of us. They live well, and I feel needed and "loved". There's even evidence that taking care of a pet can help people live longer.
My guess is that it's probably based on evolution. We humans have triggers that make us feel loved and wanted, which makes us happy. Cats learned how to access those triggers, ensuring safe, well-fed environments in which to prosper and procreate. Too bad my cats are fixed...
Maybe they cut him up into 3rds, and burried a bit of him in each place?
Or, to make everyone happy, if they figure out the real grave, they can then cut him up into thirds and redistribute him among the 3 places who think he is burried in their town.
I've heard of distributed computing, but never distributed decomposing. Oh well... there's something new every day!
When you go away (for any purpose) nothing remains the same as it was when you left. And so it is for the hobbits. They leave their comfortable corner of the world, and return to find it grossly changed.
I think even more, that when you leave and return, it's you that has changed even more than "home". That's why, as they say, "you can never go home." You've changed and home can never be the all-encompasing world it used to be.
Slashdot Mirror
If you're in the Portland Oregon area, check out Free Geek. www.freegeek.org.
They recylce/reuse old computers and build new ones out of old parts. Some of these they give to nonprofits. The rest, they give to the the volunteers who work there, learning how to build computers.
Under one program, you sort, identify, and diagnose parts and after 24 hours of work, you get a computer. Under another, you assemble (after being trained) 6 computers and you get to keep the 6th.
I don't know if anyone else does this kind of thing.
I'd have to first find a QWERTY keyboard, sit down, place both hands in the right position on the keys and start typing into a text editor.
I had a hell of a time in France once (I'm a USian). I couldn't log into my e-mail and I kept carefully typing my password many times. After about 15 minutes and a whole lot of profanity, I typed my password in a text editor only to realize that on that keyboard the numbers are shifted and the corresponding punctuation is non-shifted.
I'm sure it was just some fiendish French plot or something.
MANUAL OVERRIDE
Isn't it ironic... most cars now have latches to let kids and gangsters out of trunks, yet now you can't get out of the car when its OS freezes? Good grief!
How many times has the Enterprise been saved (or blown up to kill bad guys) through the use of manual overrides? I should be able to get out of my car, even if the battery is drained and the computer is drained. If it's good enough for Jean Luc, it's good enough for me!
If they have AOL, maybe they only have a modem therefore no NIC and no MAC address.
It WOULD be interesting to see what was actually sent and identified wit this laptop.
Maybe when AOL installes, a uniqe ID is assigned to the device. Wells Fargo reports that laptop (and the the name of the person who would normally log in with it) to AOL, who then can watch for the computer to log in. Once it logs in with someone else's ID, they can then look up that ID's financial information, which probably has an address attached to it. They would also have the Caller-ID info for the dial-in line.
Was the Wells Fargo employee using AOL already? Or did the theif install it after the fact?
Maybe Wells Fargo should consider keeping senstive customer information on a central file server so that laptops don't end up with that data on them when they are stolen.
It sounds like a good idea, but if I'm buying hardware/software, I like to avoid vendor lock-in.
There are ways to make things secure using standard networking, but I get the feeling that Deibold doesn't feel it's worth the added expense. They probably were arrogant enough to think it would never be an issue.
(1) A display driver; any text console is sufficient, but if the banks prefer to show logos and useless graphics, fine, make it a simple framebuffer device.
You clearly haven't had the benefit of video ads given to you while you wait for your cash! I suppose they could do ascii art...
I'm not particularly religious, but I do have concerns about haphazardly creating new species of animals through genetic engineering.
On one hand, evolution results from random changes in genes and then selection through environmental pressures.
In this case, though, a new species is being created, not by a natural mutation process, but by specifically combining genes from different creatures - changes that most likely could never happen naturally. If this new species is released into the environment, it's difficult to predict what the effect might be.
We already have problems with existing species being transplanted and wreaking havoc on local environments (zebra mussels and a brine shrimp being transported by international shipping, kudzu in southern US, etc.).
While very similar to a "normal" zebra fish, this fish IS different. It's possible that this fish will be released into the wild, and the results of that are not predictable. It could displace a local population of fish that a normal zebra might not. Or it may be toxic to a predator (that does not normally eat sea anemones).
I'm not against all genetic engineering, but I think we should be very careful about creating new organisms. Of course, nature is very good at self-correction and finding equilibrium - but we might find ourselves naturally selected right off the planet by inadvertent creation of something we're not adapted to deal with.
I would imagine the electronic votes would be counted.
There would also probably be random-sample checks of various polls to make sure the tallies are the same. And if someone contests a tally, or it's really close, the paper could be used to verify the electronic count.
If you delete your yahoo account and you were silly/stupid/drunk enough to set up a geocities website, make sure you delete that web content first.
If you're like me, you give yahoo fake information on your account, so after I deleted my account, I could not get yahoo to delete my geocities webpage, nor re-instate my account.
I finally got action by contacting the "copyright violations" people. I told them that that content was mine and that I no longer wanted it on their site. They took it right down! It's hard to believe that was yahoo!
So, don't forget those co-branded services when deleting your yahoo account.
Boy, and how long until a virus can make the response "yup, I'm secure"...
I wonder if this is the next step in the "Trusted Secure Computing" world? Routers won't accept traffic from non-trusted computers?
Schools don't really care if their kids can get jobs. And they really don't care about what software they use. They're too buys "teaching to the test" with the NCLB (No Child Left Behind).
NCLB is a good idea, but too many teachers I know are being told by their bosses, "teach the test".
The same bosses probably prefer more expensive software because it means they get bigger budgets to spend as they wish. No administrator wants their budgets cut, so there is no real incentive for them to start using cheap/free software.
I've never gone downhilling, but don't you have to do some uphilling first? At that point, the weight becomes a bigger deal, I think!
I'm really beginnging to think I wasted my college years studying and trying to get good grades!
That reminds me of a story about a guy who would walk down the street, and any good-looking woman he saw, he would as her if she wants to have sex. He said, "sure, you get slapped several times in a day, but eventually someone says yes".
Wouldn't Asok also have to have 21 years of Java experience?
I may have wrongly connected the beginning of your message, where you talked about pets, to this last part of your message.
I took it to mean that you were saying that the human-pet relationship satisfies your condition #2. I was providing examples to show that it does, in fact, violate your condition #2.
Humans MAY have relationships that satisfy your situation. When I go to the DMV to get my drivers license, I am willingly sitting there with lots of other people, who are also there willingly. But, we derive not benefit from being together.
But it does not necessarily depend on someone perceiving it.
For example, suppose I live in a not-so-nice neighborhood where it's common to have cars broken into at night. So, being unemployed, I decide to spend my nights patroling the neighborhood on the theory that my mere presence will deter the theives.
My neighbors, being hard-working types, sleep at night and have no idea that I'm spending my nights keeping their cars safe. If I am indeed successful, my neighbors derive value from me and my efforts because their cars were not broken into.
The mere fact that they are not aware of my efforts does not remove the value of those efforts.
Going back to the restaurant, at the precise time that doctor was rendering service, you were unable to perceive his value, but it was there. Somehow, at least some of his value must have been inherent because you were unable to perceive or ascertain that value at that time. You didn't know what he could do for you, but he still had value.
I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'm just trying to wrap my head around this. I believe (for what it's worth) that value can be inherent or innate, and not dependent necessarily upon someone else ascribing that value.
Maybe there are different kinds of values. One measure of value might be what someone would pay for something, requiring some kind of appraisal. In the restaurant, knowing that you have a bad heart, the host may offer to seat you near a doctor for $50. It might be worth it. But suppose your date is also a doctor. You'd probably save the $50. It seems to me that in both cases, the doctor at the table has some kind of innate value that does not depend on your appraisal of it.
But as you said earlier, Show me a relationship in nature between two animals where they spend time together with no benefit whatsoever.
I'm saying that the human-pet relationship isn't a situation where this no benefit whatsoever. In the case of my cats, I get the feeling of being needed, plus I have no mice, and fewer bugs and spiders. In return, they get a warm house, all the food they can eat, free healthcare, and regular grooming.
It's a symbiosis on multiple levels. On one, I'm exchanging my economic activity for their services of keeping pests away that I don't like. On another, they seem to satisfy some emotional needs as well. This situation is not value-less, because even at the most practical level, they are cheaper and less hazardous than mouse traps and bug poison.
Unless I know that you are going to benefit me in some way, you are presently worthless to me.
Just because you cannot perceive the value, that does not mean it is not there.
Suppose you are at a restaurant. You don't know it, but the worthless guy sitting at the next table is a doctor. You fall out of your chair, suffering from a heart attack, and become unconscious. As he gets up out of his chair and begins to administer treatment, you are presently unable to perceive his value.
When you recover and learn what has happened, you will be able to see the value of this stranger that was sitting next to you. But I would say that his value existed all-along, and not just at the moment of your awareness of it.
I don't agree with you regarding pets. I'm not saying my cats love me, because that can't be proven. But I do believe they prefer being around me rather than not.
I leave food in the bowls, and the bag of cat food could be tipped over. So, they don't need me to actively feed them. I leave a window open, so they can come and go as they please. But, when I come home, they both come and meet me at the door. One of them, even with a full food dish, likes to crawl on me as I watch movies and have me pet him. He could just as easily hang out on his own or with the other cat.
You mention animals spending time together with no benefit whatsoever. But I think rather that it is a symbiosis of sorts. I provide a comfortable, safe, well-fed environment, and they provide at least a synthetic companionship. It's good for both of us. They live well, and I feel needed and "loved". There's even evidence that taking care of a pet can help people live longer.
My guess is that it's probably based on evolution. We humans have triggers that make us feel loved and wanted, which makes us happy. Cats learned how to access those triggers, ensuring safe, well-fed environments in which to prosper and procreate. Too bad my cats are fixed...
Heck, we hardly respect the living. It seems like a stretch to expect people to respect the dead... especially when there is money concerned.
Maybe they cut him up into 3rds, and burried a bit of him in each place?
Or, to make everyone happy, if they figure out the real grave, they can then cut him up into thirds and redistribute him among the 3 places who think he is burried in their town.
I've heard of distributed computing, but never distributed decomposing. Oh well... there's something new every day!
When you go away (for any purpose) nothing remains the same as it was when you left. And so it is for the hobbits. They leave their comfortable corner of the world, and return to find it grossly changed.
I think even more, that when you leave and return, it's you that has changed even more than "home". That's why, as they say, "you can never go home." You've changed and home can never be the all-encompasing world it used to be.
It has been stolen by environmental extremists to protect the world from having to look at it.
So NOW we know what they do with all the foreskins!
My guess is he means shelf-life... as in the capacitor doesn't leak. So, charge it up and five years later, it's still ready to use.