I'm sure most genocides have been carried out by people that fit the description above...
Wow! What did he do to kill you or your types? I've never supported his views but genocide is a little rough. Freedom of IP is not genocide... there is freedom of information, but it is not genocide.
"He believed in taking away our rights to enrich himself. I for one do not celebrate his life. Someday I will find his grave and piss on it. I'll take toilet paper too, just in case..."
Very good, he did what he did for a reason and it sounds like you have a cause. We need more people who are passionate about IP laws and friendom of information. JV was not an evil guy (I knew one of his kids), but he was misdirected.
"Why, despite the evidence, do you persist in assuming good faith about what he did?" You are correct, I don't assume he did his actions in good faith. It might have been for the simple goals of money and/or fame. I never personally met the man, but from what I have read about his devotion to the IP topic, I can only assume he was dedicated to securing IP laws for the MPAA. I never agreed with his views, but it is my right to admire his dedication.
Apparently, other slashdoters are now comparing him to Hitler. This unfair to his friends and family and the Jewish community.
"Obviously Jack Valenti was nowhere near that level of evil, but he was still a moron who made the world a worse place.
I don't agree with anything Valenti did while lobbying copy-right laws, but I do admire his conviction. I just wish others like you and I would have the same vigor and dedication against those IP laws. He did (albeit bad) do a lot.
"His belief was that fair use should be outlawed because it interfered with corporate profits and you're praising him for that?
I understand it's crass to speak ill of the dead, but Valenti wasn't a terribly nice guy."
What have you done for your beliefs? I'm not praising him for what he has done and many people don't agree with them. I'm praising him for his conviction. I wish everyone had that same dedication for their beliefs, then there wouldn't be the discussion about 'fair use' and IP issues.
Jack Valenti may have been a pro-copyright lobbyists that we all despise, but he was still a human being that had done more in his life for his beliefs than we can only hope to achieve. I send condolences to his friends and family.
Help me out here, where is the correlation? I feel that Moore's Law effects the computer industry about as much as Rose O'Donnell leaving "The View" does.
Pickpocketers, con men and muggers, mark your calendars. There'll be some easy-juicy targets. You'll just have to catch them before their parents pick them up.
I call shenanigans on this piece of FUD. Sure the poor lil' ol' publisher only makes $1 and the evil programmers make $27... based on how many games sold? After you paid the expenses of producing a game, you don't pay more. There are no royalties provided to the creative minds behind what actual did something... like make the game. It all becomes pure liquid profit for the publishers. Why do you think the asshats can afford to charge only $20 for older games? Did they all of a sudden become cheaper to make, market, or distrubute? Nope, it's because they already raked enough cash to buy that private island in the Caribbean, but still need to hire Jose to wax the yacht. One buck a game? My ass. Leave it to Forbes.
"Psh, he developed FORTRAN. I'm surprised he even lived to 82 without being killed by a rabid programmer.;)"
He lived to 82, I doubt there are any modern-day potato-ass programmers that could catch him even in his golden years. We should feel fortunate for his contributions and hope to hell we live that good of a life, that long. Now, where did I leave my Cheetos?
I would have to disagree... unfortunately it is not crap. We are talking about average users who will use the default browser (80% Explorer) installed on their Windows machines (~90%) and will never change the default settings (search engine, etc). This is a VERY large group of users who probably aren't the most computer literate (have no idea what http:/// is) let alone capable of typing or spelling very well. When these average users try to go to a company's website and don't type the URL properly, they are being redirected to a MS site where MS makes a profit off of their mistake. This is as bad if not worse than what most cybersquatters are doing. Users should be given an error so that they correct the problem and move on. If they want to search they can go to a search engine site or use the browsers search window. The URL window should only be used for the browser's compatible protocols.
No, a very small minority of people own or can afford MP3 players. You can have 100% of the market share for a market that is 3% of the world's population and all you have is a very small 3% minority of the population. The VAST majority of people have never and never will own an Apple product.
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How about virtual penetration with someone's virtual appendage being stuck into someone else's virtual orifice?
Wow loraksus! I'm sure Jack's family would love to hear your euligy.
I'm sure most genocides have been carried out by people that fit the description above...
Wow! What did he do to kill you or your types? I've never supported his views but genocide is a little rough. Freedom of IP is not genocide... there is freedom of information, but it is not genocide.
"He believed in taking away our rights to enrich himself. I for one do not celebrate his life. Someday I will find his grave and piss on it. I'll take toilet paper too, just in case..."
Very good, he did what he did for a reason and it sounds like you have a cause. We need more people who are passionate about IP laws and friendom of information. JV was not an evil guy (I knew one of his kids), but he was misdirected.
Thank you.
"i try not to push them onto the others for one thing."
:)
That is a very good start. Now we need to move towards other IP and pro-consumer issues.
Thanks be the pasta be with you and your and your family.
"Why, despite the evidence, do you persist in assuming good faith about what he did?"
You are correct, I don't assume he did his actions in good faith. It might have been for the simple goals of money and/or fame. I never personally met the man, but from what I have read about his devotion to the IP topic, I can only assume he was dedicated to securing IP laws for the MPAA. I never agreed with his views, but it is my right to admire his dedication.
Apparently, other slashdoters are now comparing him to Hitler. This unfair to his friends and family and the Jewish community.
"Obviously Jack Valenti was nowhere near that level of evil, but he was still a moron who made the world a worse place.
I don't agree with anything Valenti did while lobbying copy-right laws, but I do admire his conviction. I just wish others like you and I would have the same vigor and dedication against those IP laws. He did (albeit bad) do a lot.
His friends and family have my condolences.
"His belief was that fair use should be outlawed because it interfered with corporate profits and you're praising him for that?
I understand it's crass to speak ill of the dead, but Valenti wasn't a terribly nice guy."
What have you done for your beliefs? I'm not praising him for what he has done and many people don't agree with them. I'm praising him for his conviction. I wish everyone had that same dedication for their beliefs, then there wouldn't be the discussion about 'fair use' and IP issues.
Jack Valenti may have been a pro-copyright lobbyists that we all despise, but he was still a human being that had done more in his life for his beliefs than we can only hope to achieve. I send condolences to his friends and family.
I'm creaming for a Wii.
Help me out here, where is the correlation? I feel that Moore's Law effects the computer industry about as much as Rose O'Donnell leaving "The View" does.
Televised ritualistic testicular hangings as punishment. Two strikes and you're sterile.
Pickpocketers, con men and muggers, mark your calendars. There'll be some easy-juicy targets. You'll just have to catch them before their parents pick them up.
Maybe they're on a shared server with Turbo Tax.
Why couldn't they have done this when I was in school? It was a regular sausage fest in my FORTRAN 77 class.
I call shenanigans on this piece of FUD. Sure the poor lil' ol' publisher only makes $1 and the evil programmers make $27... based on how many games sold? After you paid the expenses of producing a game, you don't pay more. There are no royalties provided to the creative minds behind what actual did something... like make the game. It all becomes pure liquid profit for the publishers. Why do you think the asshats can afford to charge only $20 for older games? Did they all of a sudden become cheaper to make, market, or distrubute? Nope, it's because they already raked enough cash to buy that private island in the Caribbean, but still need to hire Jose to wax the yacht. One buck a game? My ass. Leave it to Forbes.
"Psh, he developed FORTRAN. I'm surprised he even lived to 82 without being killed by a rabid programmer. ;)"
He lived to 82, I doubt there are any modern-day potato-ass programmers that could catch him even in his golden years. We should feel fortunate for his contributions and hope to hell we live that good of a life, that long. Now, where did I leave my Cheetos?
I would have to disagree... unfortunately it is not crap. We are talking about average users who will use the default browser (80% Explorer) installed on their Windows machines (~90%) and will never change the default settings (search engine, etc). This is a VERY large group of users who probably aren't the most computer literate (have no idea what http:/// is) let alone capable of typing or spelling very well. When these average users try to go to a company's website and don't type the URL properly, they are being redirected to a MS site where MS makes a profit off of their mistake. This is as bad if not worse than what most cybersquatters are doing. Users should be given an error so that they correct the problem and move on. If they want to search they can go to a search engine site or use the browsers search window. The URL window should only be used for the browser's compatible protocols.
"Do we have to listen to the webcast to get any of the good stuff?"
Why don't you listen to it and let us know.
I have a method of storing condensed methane gas. It's not 100% safe (ask my dog) but nobody has died from it, yet.
http://www.dailydomainer.com/200784-microsoft-eart hlink-charter-cybersquatting.html
Not *exactly* cybersquatting, but just as bad if not worse.
No, a very small minority of people own or can afford MP3 players. You can have 100% of the market share for a market that is 3% of the world's population and all you have is a very small 3% minority of the population. The VAST majority of people have never and never will own an Apple product.
"I bet within a couple of years you'll be counted among iPhone owners."
Will there be ice skating in hell? Most of us have never owned an Apple product and many of us never will.
Cool... it might open up a new way for some of us to make a paycheck.