as in "to flog the log", i.e. create a work of fiction to fulfill some project manager's dream of what should be happening. Not that I'm cynical or anything... but
The origins of the meter is quite interesting. In essence, it's here: http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/meter.html
But of the 2 guys tasked to do it, one went mad trying to find the "truth" (or the "exactness") whilst the other realised it was a measure determined by committee -or the representatives of the people, if you will.
Most of the other measurements *before* were determined by medeival methods - the Yard is defined thus:
"A yard was originally the length of a man's belt or girdle, as it was called. In the 12th century, King Henry I of England fixed the yard as the distance from his nose to the thumb of his out-stretched arm. Today it is 36 inches, about the distance from nose to out-stretched arm of a man."
http://www.iofm.net/community/kidscorner/maths/o ri gin.htm
Rather than breathing life into the influence of royalty in my life - and I have enough reminders that the UK isn't a democratic state in the truest semse, thankyou very much - I'm going to stick to meters.
Sure, and I agree with all you say. I was wondering if log4c was any different? http://log4c.sourceforge.net/
For the applications that I build - build & distribution software - logs are very important and maybe considered as being part of the application, so the Java quirk doesn't matter to me in this respect.
I agree with your comments 100% but try Log4j/Log4perl/Log4c. It allows you to turn debug info on/off through the config file. Saves you that extra claim
We need more choice, but only choices which are not clones of each other. Look at MySQL - it's made good not by being a clone of Oracle but by figuring out the bits people want then backfilling in the rest as it goes along.
Isn't making an interface usable something interesting? Something challenging? Aren't challenges something geeks do well?
Ignore Microsoft. Why not make the best interface that can be made? It'll take time but it'll arrive.
I'd like to see lots of distributions with a strong core feature set to each of them, but with each carrying an ever varying application set. Think KDE on a large scale.
I was momentarily interested in GForge but when I saw that it was designed for small projects, then less so. Where are the task-to-release views? Management of releases? The tracker view goes near but so far...Task assignments for testers, developers and approvers? How do you map tasks to code? So close yet so far...if this project could beef up some of it's features, then it could really be a killer app for small and large companies.
And my comments are based, in part, in visting Africa quite freqently in the past.
I am not arguing for better aid, or any aid at all in the long run; I would prefer better trade agreements which didn't force wacky patent policies (whether it be the DMCA or the EUCD, although the US started it...) down the throats of poorer countries.
The US Drug companies dragooned the US gubmint into acting on their behalf, trying to force the TRIPS plus policy down the throats of the African governments. Only under extreme moral pressure did the US govt/companies relent. The US Drug companies only want to increase their profits, the US govt only want to see these profits increase. The African people are only coincidental to the whole things, so this callous dis-regard of life is disgraceful.
Even worse, this policy circumvents the agreements of the WTO, which you yanks put so much store in.
BTW, this isn't a US-only thing, but the US started it and seem to be pressuring others into adopting a TRIPS-plus policy.
See http://www.oxfamamerica.org/advocacy/art539 1.html http://66.102.11.104/search?q=cache:DU7KBC r9HisJ:w ww.evb.ch/cm_data/Trips_plus%2520by%2520EFTA_0.pdf +TRIPS+plus&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 Some US legal bollocks enabling TRIPs-plus. http://lists.essential.org/pipermail/ pharm-policy/ 2000q1/000112.html
It won't take much for the US to pressurise African and South America countries into adopting DMCA-like clauses under similar bi-lateral trade agreements. I give it 10 years. The aim, I suspect, is to make sure US IP policies become the de facto world standard, ensuring that all those maverick countries fall under the spell of MicroSoft.
In this respect, your comment is short-sighted and plainly idiotic.
The Americans didn't help by trying to reduce to a minimum the circumstances - proscribed by international convention - in which forced licensing could legally take place. So, whilst the original poster can be described as overstating their case, I don't see this as being "intellectually dishonest". Rather, I see your deflection in this light. The US drug companies were complete bastards in this respect and I can understand the feelings engendered by such a negative, hateful policy.
For the past 2 or 3 days, I've noticed an MS ad across the top of slashdot, specifically the one that says that the TCO of that other OS is cheaper than Linux.
Also, 3 out of 6 "articles" in the google news Sci-Tech/Biz sections are MS-related.
Longhorn was invented so that people could talk (and developers get gooey-eyed in the manner of "oh, look, new technology") about something other than Linux..NET was invented likewise to counter java. The Xbox? PS2. It's THEIR market and don't you forget it.
They want your eyeballs: your wallets will follow.
The sound of hollow laughter now echoes across the trail of dead left by the Microsoft machine. Either you're naieve, a troll or Rip Van Programmer. Which is it?
I assumed that you believed because you capitalized the g - hey ho - apologies. However, you still skirt the point: Columbus's words could only apply to his white European "God" - and, as the Indians held little truck with gods, thats' the only god he could mean. That's not PC, that's the way Columbus would have felt. That was *his* political correctness - if you didn't believe the, uh, One True God, then off with your head. That's the way it went.
Well, if you believe that the term "Native American" undermines race relations, well, that's your opinion. And again, I have little idea about the term African-American, except that I do know it's a revolving door of changes, from Nigger to Negro (both imposed terms as I understand it) to African American to...whatever, all meant to refer (again, as I understand it) to a particular community(ies) in the USA, of which Charlize Theron has no part. Which term do you choose? Which term would does that community choose, given that there still maybe a element of separateness btn the communities?
As for getting ridding of Political Correctness - oh, do grow up. If you want to be a racist, stop hiding behind this "getting rid of PC" shtick. That is what you meant by this, isn't? PC, to me, means respecting each other's cultures, regardless of origin. "Do unto others as they would have done unto themselves. If in doubt, take the most generous option." To me, the term Native American tries, at least, in this direction. The columbus quote goes in the opposite direction. I fear violent conversion and culture shock lies at the end of it - and indeed, it did.
...creating perl, python and ruby. This is, IMO, where the real OSS innovation lies - Linux itself is a clone.
But this could all be a stage in development. There will be cutting edge stuff in the future I'm sure. But remember, while you're innovating your socks off, to *steal* from the best.
I wouldn't call it particularly respectable. "A people in god" - that would be columbus's god rather than the indians, who did not (and possible do not) believe in your's or Columbus's god. I think yr govt did OK in this respect.
Under a current agreement btn UKGB and the US of A, the POOTUS (or one of his underlings) can just *ask* to see someone from the UK on *suspicion* and they can get whisked off into the nothingness. Oh, thankyou David Blunkett, you are so *wonderful* to us. http://www.statewatch.org/news/2003/jul/25ukus.htm
Of course, what you should be asking by now is if *your* country, by which I mean Canada, NZ, Aus and any other country which the US has been talking to about this, and if they agreed.
I, for one, welcome our Stars-n-Stripes overlords.
Yeah right. More like an extension of a de facto American Empire. And I, for one, welcome our new Freedom Loving, cigar-chewing, baseball-cap wearing, internet-owning overlords. In the US of A, the corporations copyright you. No, wait -
In a democracy, the govt does want you want it to do. If I want a Great Society or a dog-eat-dog authoritarian state, then that's up to me at the ballot box. Of course, if you're stuffing these ideas down my throat, well, don't expect to be called freedom-loving at the end of it.
Bugging on such a large scale always comes up against the "little elves" problem - you have more data than you can possibly sift. The real question is, do you want to fund what amounts to a giant needle-in-the-haystack search which will be less efficient - and more expensive - than what you've got now. Of course, being emporer of those little elves will be fun and powerful; I'm just waiting for a J Edgar Hoover figure too step-to and start flashing all this data at the right people. Of course, he should have the dresses to match...
At the end of the day, the FBI problems are *social problems* and the only way to do that is to talk to people. No amount of electronics. Ooops. This is slashdot, my bad.
What you say reminds of this: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/volcano/about. html
The volcanologist who led his party to the volcano that fateful day was, I recall, dismissive of Chouet's theories. I've not heard more of Chouets' theories. Has anyone else?
In fact Macos X makes the perfect cross platform file server - with NFS, Samba and AppleShare, it makes the ideal choice for people like me who want to use it as a repository for build products. The only problem is getting cdrecord to work on it with the correct format of Apple resource forks under the BSD file system. Which is why we still use RedHat and EtherShare to mount Macs - cdrecord understands ES representations of resource forks on a unix fs. If I could crack that for MacOS X, I'd love to get one or two of those Xserves. You mean, they have the temerity to *sell* those 1U boxes for server racks? The ignorance of slashdotters these days...back in the day...
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as in "to flog the log", i.e. create a work of fiction to fulfill some project manager's dream of what should be happening. Not that I'm cynical or anything... but
h
I can change tyres but fiddling with the gears is a *real* pain-in-the arse. Hours of endless fun.
h
The origins of the meter is quite interesting. In essence, it's here: http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/meter.html
o ri gin.htm
But of the 2 guys tasked to do it, one went mad trying to find the "truth" (or the "exactness") whilst the other realised it was a measure determined by committee -or the representatives of the people, if you will.
Most of the other measurements *before* were determined by medeival methods - the Yard is defined thus:
"A yard was originally the length of a man's belt or girdle, as it was called. In the 12th century, King Henry I of England fixed the yard as the distance from his nose to the thumb of his out-stretched arm. Today it is 36 inches, about the distance from nose to out-stretched arm of a man."
http://www.iofm.net/community/kidscorner/maths/
Rather than breathing life into the influence of royalty in my life - and I have enough reminders that the UK isn't a democratic state in the truest semse, thankyou very much - I'm going to stick to meters.
h.
MS just want our minds - my tinfoil hat is sitting handy just in case...
h
Sure, and I agree with all you say. I was wondering if log4c was any different? http://log4c.sourceforge.net/
For the applications that I build - build & distribution software - logs are very important and maybe considered as being part of the application, so the Java quirk doesn't matter to me in this respect.
h
I agree with your comments 100% but try Log4j/Log4perl/Log4c. It allows you to turn debug info on/off through the config file. Saves you that extra claim
h
bushbaby subsidised steel. Why not computing?
So, a google-type system, then. "Crazy Glue": sounds patentable if you ask me.
h
We need more choice, but only choices which are not clones of each other. Look at MySQL - it's made good not by being a clone of Oracle but by figuring out the bits people want then backfilling in the rest as it goes along.
h
I thought Alan Turing committed suicide as a result of being hounded by the security services and the general witch-hunts of that era.
h
Isn't making an interface usable something interesting? Something challenging? Aren't challenges something geeks do well?
Ignore Microsoft. Why not make the best interface that can be made? It'll take time but it'll arrive.
I'd like to see lots of distributions with a strong core feature set to each of them, but with each carrying an ever varying application set. Think KDE on a large scale.
h
I was momentarily interested in GForge but when I saw that it was designed for small projects, then less so. Where are the task-to-release views? Management of releases? The tracker view goes near but so far...Task assignments for testers, developers and approvers? How do you map tasks to code? So close yet so far...if this project could beef up some of it's features, then it could really be a killer app for small and large companies.
h.
And my comments are based, in part, in visting Africa quite freqently in the past.
I am not arguing for better aid, or any aid at all in the long run; I would prefer better trade agreements which didn't force wacky patent policies (whether it be the DMCA or the EUCD, although the US started it...) down the throats of poorer countries.
h
The US Drug companies dragooned the US gubmint into acting on their behalf, trying to force the TRIPS plus policy down the throats of the African governments. Only under extreme moral pressure did the US govt/companies relent. The US Drug companies only want to increase their profits, the US govt only want to see these profits increase. The African people are only coincidental to the whole things, so this callous dis-regard of life is disgraceful.
9 1.htmlC r9HisJ:w ww.evb.ch/cm_data/Trips_plus%2520by%2520EFTA_0.pdf +TRIPS+plus&hl=en&ie=UTF-8/ pharm-policy/ 2000q1/000112.html
Even worse, this policy circumvents the agreements of the WTO, which you yanks put so much store in.
BTW, this isn't a US-only thing, but the US started it and seem to be pressuring others into adopting a TRIPS-plus policy.
See
http://www.oxfamamerica.org/advocacy/art53
http://66.102.11.104/search?q=cache:DU7KB
Some US legal bollocks enabling TRIPs-plus.
http://lists.essential.org/pipermail
It won't take much for the US to pressurise African and South America countries into adopting DMCA-like clauses under similar bi-lateral trade agreements. I give it 10 years. The aim, I suspect, is to make sure US IP policies become the de facto world standard, ensuring that all those maverick countries fall under the spell of MicroSoft.
In this respect, your comment is short-sighted and plainly idiotic.
h
The Americans didn't help by trying to reduce to a minimum the circumstances - proscribed by international convention - in which forced licensing could legally take place. So, whilst the original poster can be described as overstating their case, I don't see this as being "intellectually dishonest". Rather, I see your deflection in this light. The US drug companies were complete bastards in this respect and I can understand the feelings engendered by such a negative, hateful policy.
h
For the past 2 or 3 days, I've noticed an MS ad across the top of slashdot, specifically the one that says that the TCO of that other OS is cheaper than Linux.
Also, 3 out of 6 "articles" in the google news Sci-Tech/Biz sections are MS-related.
Longhorn was invented so that people could talk (and developers get gooey-eyed in the manner of "oh, look, new technology") about something other than Linux. .NET was invented likewise to counter java. The Xbox? PS2. It's THEIR market and don't you forget it.
They want your eyeballs: your wallets will follow.
hThe sound of hollow laughter now echoes across the trail of dead left by the Microsoft machine. Either you're naieve, a troll or Rip Van Programmer. Which is it?
h
I assumed that you believed because you capitalized the g - hey ho - apologies. However, you still skirt the point: Columbus's words could only apply to his white European "God" - and, as the Indians held little truck with gods, thats' the only god he could mean. That's not PC, that's the way Columbus would have felt. That was *his* political correctness - if you didn't believe the, uh, One True God, then off with your head. That's the way it went.
Well, if you believe that the term "Native American" undermines race relations, well, that's your opinion. And again, I have little idea about the term African-American, except that I do know it's a revolving door of changes, from Nigger to Negro (both imposed terms as I understand it) to African American to...whatever, all meant to refer (again, as I understand it) to a particular community(ies) in the USA, of which Charlize Theron has no part. Which term do you choose? Which term would does that community choose, given that there still maybe a element of separateness btn the communities?
As for getting ridding of Political Correctness - oh, do grow up. If you want to be a racist, stop hiding behind this "getting rid of PC" shtick. That is what you meant by this, isn't? PC, to me, means respecting each other's cultures, regardless of origin. "Do unto others as they would have done unto themselves. If in doubt, take the most generous option." To me, the term Native American tries, at least, in this direction. The columbus quote goes in the opposite direction. I fear violent conversion and culture shock lies at the end of it - and indeed, it did.
h
...creating perl, python and ruby. This is, IMO, where the real OSS innovation lies - Linux itself is a clone.
But this could all be a stage in development. There will be cutting edge stuff in the future I'm sure. But remember, while you're innovating your socks off, to *steal* from the best.
h
I wouldn't call it particularly respectable. "A people in god" - that would be columbus's god rather than the indians, who did not (and possible do not) believe in your's or Columbus's god. I think yr govt did OK in this respect.
h
I see you're a lawyer.
m
Under a current agreement btn UKGB and the US of A, the POOTUS (or one of his underlings) can just *ask* to see someone from the UK on *suspicion* and they can get whisked off into the nothingness. Oh, thankyou David Blunkett, you are so *wonderful* to us. http://www.statewatch.org/news/2003/jul/25ukus.ht
Of course, what you should be asking by now is if *your* country, by which I mean Canada, NZ, Aus and any other country which the US has been talking to about this, and if they agreed.
I, for one, welcome our Stars-n-Stripes overlords.
h
Yeah right. More like an extension of a de facto American Empire. And I, for one, welcome our new Freedom Loving, cigar-chewing, baseball-cap wearing, internet-owning overlords. In the US of A, the corporations copyright you. No, wait -
h
In a democracy, the govt does want you want it to do. If I want a Great Society or a dog-eat-dog authoritarian state, then that's up to me at the ballot box. Of course, if you're stuffing these ideas down my throat, well, don't expect to be called freedom-loving at the end of it.
Bugging on such a large scale always comes up against the "little elves" problem - you have more data than you can possibly sift. The real question is, do you want to fund what amounts to a giant needle-in-the-haystack search which will be less efficient - and more expensive - than what you've got now. Of course, being emporer of those little elves will be fun and powerful; I'm just waiting for a J Edgar Hoover figure too step-to and start flashing all this data at the right people. Of course, he should have the dresses to match...
At the end of the day, the FBI problems are *social problems* and the only way to do that is to talk to people. No amount of electronics. Ooops. This is slashdot, my bad.
h.
Sigs? We don't need no steenkin sigs!
What you say reminds of this:. html
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/volcano/about
The volcanologist who led his party to the volcano that fateful day was, I recall, dismissive of Chouet's theories. I've not heard more of Chouets' theories. Has anyone else?
h
In fact Macos X makes the perfect cross platform file server - with NFS, Samba and AppleShare, it makes the ideal choice for people like me who want to use it as a repository for build products. The only problem is getting cdrecord to work on it with the correct format of Apple resource forks under the BSD file system. Which is why we still use RedHat and EtherShare to mount Macs - cdrecord understands ES representations of resource forks on a unix fs. If I could crack that for MacOS X, I'd love to get one or two of those Xserves. You mean, they have the temerity to *sell* those 1U boxes for server racks? The ignorance of slashdotters these days...back in the day...
h.