I agree whole heartedly with all subsequent posts about how wonderful "Free Speech Zones" are and especially how protesters create a local economic problem what with all the extra police needed to beat them down, I mean keep the peace. You know this really does go both ways. If free speech zones were invented by the current administration to corral political protestors, then whey cant the same tactics be used against abortion protestors? Whey cant we put those "God Hates Fags" gay funeral protestors behind chain link fences and razor wire? Why couldn't we put the Christina Fundy protestors that go to Mardi Gras every year in a "free speech zone?" Or would that be "Un-American?"
One more imponderable: Why is it that on Fox news whenever they talk of protestors for any reason they always refer to them as "Anarchists?" The other day I finally heard Fox refer to protestors as actual protestors. Then it dawned on me, it was Israelis protesting being relocated out of the "occupied" territories. Only when you are right wing and have something to protest about can you be termed a protester, but if you are left wing and protesting you are an anarchist. Seems "Fair and Balanced" to me!
No we are NOT kidding... Yes we kept learning alive in the monasteries. And the illiteracy rate amongst the secular people was what? 90% or above? Was the common man of the day actually able to read the bible??? NO!!! Because the Catholics of old liked to tell the masses what to think, and didn't like them reading and deciding things for themselves.
Hang on just a sec, you are actually doing to sit there and say the church did anything but convict Galileo for heresy? That is what they did. They suppressed his science because it didn't conform to their beloved world view. The same things happened with Copernicus and Kepler. See here:
The fact of the matter is that Religion particularly Christianity and Science have been locked in and ideological war forever and they always will be. With the Christian conservatives/Fundamentalists/Radicals/Hardliners/ Wacos call them what you will taking over this Republic, I'm surprised we aren't teaching things like the earth is the center of the universe and the world is flat. For that matter, I'm surprised we aren't teaching that babies are coming from storks in schools yet.
Arrgh! Why why why must we put up with this superstitious mumbo jumbo in government and schools. That kind of crap should only be talked about where it belongs: In church.
I have never believed in Creationism, even as a kid I knew enough that the Genesis story was a parable of morality. An argument for Intelligent Design can only hold up because it runs counter to the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_law_of_thermod ynamics
It could be argued the disorder caused by the big bang, why is it that galaxies have clusters together, and apparently complex systems have formed locally such as suns, planets, and life. This is a subjective argument however, because the global amount of disorder is always increasing, maybe our little part of the universe is highly ordered from chance.
The probably of every physical constant being right for suns, planets and life to exist is vanishingly small. Same goes for the right sun, with the right planet, the right distance away, with the right day, with the right year with the right seasons, with the right stabilizing moon, etc.
I do not believe this is a tautology. I believe there are two equally likely explanations for the observable universe:
1) A god or gods set the right dials of physical laws so that we could come into existence and sacrifice dead animals/people to him or her. 2) There are an infinite number of universes and so some of them will have the right conditions for life since the infinite impossibility of life can exist in an infinite number of universes all with different physical laws.
> Albert Einstein comes to mind. Isaac Newton. While > not religious in the traditional sense, both had > belief in God (not that certain about Einstein, > but for sure Newton).
One of the most famous quotes from Einstein is "God does not play dice" and drastically modified his equations to conform to his particuar theology. See the Stephen Hawking lecture on this subject:
You know its funny... I used to call myself Christian but I can't anymore becuase it has become a poisoned religion by the likes of the so called "Christian" conservatives, religous right. I think the same thing can be said of the Republican party, it has become poisoned by these same groups, touting "family values" that never used to be family values.
Christian conservatives/Christian fundamentalists are identical in every way to Islamic Fundamentalists except for the suicide bombings. I guess you could say the Christians aren't as dedicated to their cause or have as much an incentive to sacrifice themselves as their Islamic counterparts. Anyone who does not believe this has been brainwashed by these same Christian Conservatives/Fundamentalists into thinking they are mainstream. They are NOT mainstream in any sense of the word. The ultimate goal of many Christian Conservatives is to make the USA a theocracy/ theonomic/ dominionistic nation:
The most frightening examples of this ultimate ultra-conservative Christianity is Christian Reconstructionism who I like to think more of as Christian Talbian:
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 15:58:45 -0800 (PST)
From: spatch3
Subject: Opposition to bill HR4077
To: feinstein, boxer
Dear Senators,
I realize it is an ongoing, uphill, losing battle to
continually oppose more egregious and draconian
copyright bills that keep cropping up in both the
house and senate. I believe, as do the courts, that
the DMCA of 1998 has many un-constitutional provisions
in it and bill HR4077, presently going to the Senate,
is no different than the DMCA in this respect.
I strongly encourage you to vote against the bill
referred to here:
Hi there. I have just come into some unidentifiable PCI hardware. I'd like to look up the Vendor ID and Device ID's of these PCI cards, but I can find no such list on your site. Do you know where I can find such a list?
You know, I work with PDP11's day in and day out. DEC's last PDP processor was, I believe, a PDP 11/93. It has a whopping 2 MB of RAM and 8 serial ports on the processor board! This was a double sized board only taking up 2 slots on the DEC backplane that took the function of 5 boards that took up 5 slots each. Of course the disk controller, clock card and other boards are separate. These boards are circa 1990. They are in a custom digital dictation system that can handle 64 simultaneous audio ports where people are either dictating or transcribing. The OS is the roll off your tounge: RSX11M+. These systems, which we are replacing slowly but surely, have been absolute work horses lasting for at least 10 years.
Yes it is a true story... but there is more than one story. Apple has been rabidly aggressive about not letting iDVD work without their branded SuperDrive. I'm not sure why this is because, to my knowledge, they don't sell software to burn to generic DVD drives, and don't want anyone else to either. It's not like iMovie and Final Cut Pro, there I understand they don't want people using iMovie without a new Mac.
Here are a few articles about this topic to chew on:
You simply MUST forward your owner this URL, or have it printed out and magically appear on his keyboard one morning before he gets to work:
http://www.fastcompany.com/online/06/writestuff. ht ml
This talks about the shuttle software team which has had 0 bugs from inception of code. All Shuttle probelms so far have been harware, but none have been software.
I can't believe he didn't mentio the software side of things when it came to the anylitical engine once: Ada Lovelace. Her name wasn't mentined in his article once.
I sent him this friendly helpful email:
Subject:
History:: The Godfather of COmputing - Charles Babbage
Date:
Wed, 17 Oct 2001 09:29:00 -0700
From:
Chris Katscher
Reply-To:
spatch3(at)yahoo(dot)com
Organization:
To:
jones(at)systemtoolbox(dot)com
Yes, but what about the Godmother of computing: Ada Lovelace?
I'ts funny. Whenever I read a blurb about Charles Babbage anywhere
(even the plackard at the software reseller Babbages), I always read
about Ada Lovelace as well. I don't remember you mentioning her name
once in her article. Sure, Charles Babbage was the brains behind the
hardware of the anylitical engine, but Ada was the first person to ever
write a computer program for the first computer: The anylitical engine.
You might want to read up on this here:
http://www.scottlan.edu/lriddle/women/love.htm
and here:
http://www.adahome.com/articles/1997-12/al_birth da y.html
http://www.google.com/search?as_q=&num=100&btnG= Go ogle+Search&as_epq=ada+lovelace&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=l ang_en&as_qdr=all&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearc h=&safe=off
Just suggesting that you give equal light to the software side of
things, without witch the anylitical engine would have been little more
than an engineering curiosity.
As of right now they can't THINK of an application. I remember reading somewhere that EVERYTHING in Math has a real life application, and that the search was on for a theory that had NO applicaion in real life. So far, AFAIK, they haven't found one and surely a theorem about triangles does have a real life application.
Every rule has an exception, and this is the only rule with no exceptions! Huh? -- Spatch
Apple has their own office suite: Appleworks (formerly known as Claris Works). From all accounts a thoroughly usefull office suite, functionally somewhere between MS works, and MS Office but for only about $100.
I don't know about them porting that to x86, they might make money at only $100 a pop and via reputation alone, but the apps would of course have to read MS Office documents.
Every rule has an exception, and this is the only rule with no exceptions! Huh? -- Spatch
Mod this guys post up! This is a very good example of how people need to post patches to Linus! Maybe this guys post needs to be eamiled to Paul Mackerras!
Every rule has an exception, and this is the only rule with no exceptions! Huh? -- Spatch
Try NetBSD, ti runs really well on those 68k mac's. I even got X windows to run on my Mac IIci, the only issue I had was the installer was v... e... r... r... y slow.
Other than that it worked great.
Every rule has an exception, and this is the only rule with no exceptions! Huh? -- Spatch
The top 4 are 33 MHz 64 Bit PCI, and the bottom one is a 66MHz 64 bit PCI slot. Ah, we finally see the maximum thruput to this bus finally: 503.54 MB/sec = (8 bytes/clock cycle) * (66,000,000 clock sysles/sec)
The above is of course assuming 1 CPU clock cycle per transfer of data.
Every rule has an exception, and this is the only rule with no exceptions! Huh? -- Spatch
Compile hfs support into the kernel. I know that Kernel 2.2.13 had this support... I have done it and was able to access a Mac CD mouted as HFS... (resource forks were in special . directories).
Every rule has an exception, and this is the only rule with no exceptions! Huh? -- Spatch
It's interesting how the story on MacWeek focuses on Jobs blasting retailers treatment of Mac customers, whereas Wired's story focused on Jobs's cussing.
Every rule has an exception, and this is the only rule with no exceptions! Huh? -- Spatch
Maybe if you didn't care about it you wouldn't have written about it, but since you took the time to waste your time and ours with your lame comment you must care about this story in some form or another.
Every rule has an exception, and this is the only rule with no exceptions! Huh? -- Spatch
Everything you said above is correct except for these subtle exceptions:
Apple reserved the first 8 MB of memory address space for Rom, I/O stuff, leaving the top 8 MB for programs and the MacOS to run in. This was the 16 MB barrier of the 24 bit memory addressing of the early 68K processors. This means that if you had more than 8 MB on your Apple Logic Board, you would see it getting gobbled up by your system heap, only leaving you the difference of what the system heap didn't need: i.e.: If you had 32 MB Ram, and only had booted into 24 bit addressing mode (or didn't have Mode32 installed), you would see your system heap taking up 26 MB with only 6 MB available to run programs in. As of Mac OS 7.6 I don't believe you could use 24 bit addressing anymore.
It's interesting that Apple had the foresight at the time (1982?) to reserve the bottom of memory for what they thought they needed for hardware address space, leaving the sky the limit for adding memory above the 16MB barrier when Motorolla overcame that limitation of their processors.
This is in stark contrast with Intel/IBM/MS that decided to reserve memory at 640 MB of memory in the x86, setting an ultimate upper limit to never be overcome in real mode.
Trying to install NetBSD on old 68K based Macs helps you sort all of this stuff out.:)
Every rule has an exception, and this is the only rule with no exceptions! Huh? -- Spatch
Slashdot Mirror
Final vote tally:
:)
0% Republican
0% Democrat
25% Libertarian
25% Reform
25% Green
25% Independent
I'd really like to see this happen in some state somewhere in this union... It would cause wonderful chaos.
I agree whole heartedly with all subsequent posts about how wonderful "Free Speech Zones" are and especially how protesters create a local economic problem what with all the extra police needed to beat them down, I mean keep the peace. You know this really does go both ways. If free speech zones were invented by the current administration to corral political protestors, then whey cant the same tactics be used against abortion protestors? Whey cant we put those "God Hates Fags" gay funeral protestors behind chain link fences and razor wire? Why couldn't we put the Christina Fundy protestors that go to Mardi Gras every year in a "free speech zone?" Or would that be "Un-American?"
One more imponderable: Why is it that on Fox news whenever they talk of protestors for any reason they always refer to them as "Anarchists?" The other day I finally heard Fox refer to protestors as actual protestors. Then it dawned on me, it was Israelis protesting being relocated out of the "occupied" territories. Only when you are right wing and have something to protest about can you be termed a protester, but if you are left wing and protesting you are an anarchist. Seems "Fair and Balanced" to me!
No we are NOT kidding... Yes we kept learning alive in the monasteries. And the illiteracy rate amongst the secular people was what? 90% or above? Was the common man of the day actually able to read the bible??? NO!!! Because the Catholics of old liked to tell the masses what to think, and didn't like them reading and deciding things for themselves.
/ Wacos call them what you will taking over this Republic, I'm surprised we aren't teaching things like the earth is the center of the universe and the world is flat. For that matter, I'm surprised we aren't teaching that babies are coming from storks in schools yet.
Hang on just a sec, you are actually doing to sit there and say the church did anything but convict Galileo for heresy? That is what they did. They suppressed his science because it didn't conform to their beloved world view. The same things happened with Copernicus and Kepler. See here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo
and here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kepler
and here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copernicus
The fact of the matter is that Religion particularly Christianity and Science have been locked in and ideological war forever and they always will be. With the Christian conservatives/Fundamentalists/Radicals/Hardliners
Arrgh! Why why why must we put up with this superstitious mumbo jumbo in government and schools. That kind of crap should only be talked about where it belongs: In church.
I have never believed in Creationism, even as a kid I knew enough that the Genesis story was a parable of morality. An argument for Intelligent Design can only hold up because it runs counter to the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics.d ynamics
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_law_of_thermo
It could be argued the disorder caused by the big bang, why is it that galaxies have clusters together, and apparently complex systems have formed locally such as suns, planets, and life. This is a subjective argument however, because the global amount of disorder is always increasing, maybe our little part of the universe is highly ordered from chance.
Personally the best argument of intelligent design is the Weak Anthropic Principle, see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropic_principle
The probably of every physical constant being right for suns, planets and life to exist is vanishingly small. Same goes for the right sun, with the right planet, the right distance away, with the right day, with the right year with the right seasons, with the right stabilizing moon, etc.
I do not believe this is a tautology. I believe there are two equally likely explanations for the observable universe:
1) A god or gods set the right dials of physical laws so that we could come into existence and sacrifice dead animals/people to him or her.
2) There are an infinite number of universes and so some of them will have the right conditions for life since the infinite impossibility of life can exist in an infinite number of universes all with different physical laws.
Comments?
Chris
> Albert Einstein comes to mind. Isaac Newton. While
> not religious in the traditional sense, both had
> belief in God (not that certain about Einstein,
> but for sure Newton).
One of the most famous quotes from Einstein is "God does not play dice" and drastically modified his equations to conform to his particuar theology. See the Stephen Hawking lecture on this subject:
http://www.hawking.org.uk/lectures/dice.html
You know its funny ... I used to call myself Christian but I can't anymore becuase it has become a poisoned religion by the likes of the so called "Christian" conservatives, religous right. I think the same thing can be said of the Republican party, it has become poisoned by these same groups, touting "family values" that never used to be family values.
t ionism
a l.htm
Christian conservatives/Christian fundamentalists are identical in every way to Islamic Fundamentalists except for the suicide bombings. I guess you could say the Christians aren't as dedicated to their cause or have as much an incentive to sacrifice themselves as their Islamic counterparts. Anyone who does not believe this has been brainwashed by these same Christian Conservatives/Fundamentalists into thinking they are mainstream. They are NOT mainstream in any sense of the word. The ultimate goal of many Christian Conservatives is to make the USA a theocracy/ theonomic/ dominionistic nation:
http://www.theocracywatch.org/
http://wlo.org/ccwatch/
http://tfn.org/religiousright/
The most frightening examples of this ultimate ultra-conservative Christianity is Christian Reconstructionism who I like to think more of as Christian Talbian:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/reconstr.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Reconstruc
http://www.theocracywatch.org/yurica_weyrich_manu
Anyone who under-estimates these powerful polictical forces and their re-making of the Republican party is being hoodwinked.
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 15:58:45 -0800 (PST)
From: spatch3
Subject: Opposition to bill HR4077
To: feinstein, boxer
Dear Senators,
I realize it is an ongoing, uphill, losing battle to
continually oppose more egregious and draconian
copyright bills that keep cropping up in both the
house and senate. I believe, as do the courts, that
the DMCA of 1998 has many un-constitutional provisions
in it and bill HR4077, presently going to the Senate,
is no different than the DMCA in this respect.
I strongly encourage you to vote against the bill referred to here:
To enhance criminal enforcement of the copyright laws, to educate the public about the application of copyright law to the Internet, and for other purposes.
Please see the following sites for dissenting voices
about this legislation:
Senate May Ram Copyright Bill
Your Rights Online: Senate May Rush Copyright Legislation
Bad: HR4077 Passed the House
Thank you for your consideration.
Chris
PS: Links to court cases that have struck down or
clarified significant portions of the 1998 DMCA:
Court strikes a good balance in file swapping case
Lexmark loses printer toner cartridges lawsuit; DMCA dives, consumers win big
Lexmark Loss Good for Consumers
United States: Circumvention Provision Of The Digital Millennium Copyright Act Is Not A New Property Right
A relatively complete list of terms that bring up that idiodic site: nightsurf.com
xfree86
porn
porno
pornography
fuck
fuckin
fucking
sex
cum
cumming
cum shot
double penetration
bdsm
anal
analingus
rim job
rimming
orgasm
fellatio
blow job
cunnilingus
the following is interesting since it gives a link to nighshift but also gives other links the above terms do not:
pussy
Hope this helps show which words msn is re-directing to this idiotic site...
Spatch
I just posted this feedback on the PCI SIG site:
http://www.pcisig.com/feedback/
Hi there. I have just come into some unidentifiable PCI hardware. I'd like to look up the Vendor ID and Device ID's of these PCI cards, but I can find no such list on your site. Do you know where I can find such a list?
Thanks!
Chris
What do you think they might reply to me with?
You know, I work with PDP11's day in and day out. DEC's last PDP processor was, I believe, a PDP 11/93. It has a whopping 2 MB of RAM and 8 serial ports on the processor board! This was a double sized board only taking up 2 slots on the DEC backplane that took the function of 5 boards that took up 5 slots each. Of course the disk controller, clock card and other boards are separate. These boards are circa 1990. They are in a custom digital dictation system that can handle 64 simultaneous audio ports where people are either dictating or transcribing. The OS is the roll off your tounge: RSX11M+. These systems, which we are replacing slowly but surely, have been absolute work horses lasting for at least 10 years.
:)
I jsut had to reboot one this morning...
Chris
Yes it is a true story ... but there is more than one story. Apple has been rabidly aggressive about not letting iDVD work without their branded SuperDrive. I'm not sure why this is because, to my knowledge, they don't sell software to burn to generic DVD drives, and don't want anyone else to either. It's not like iMovie and Final Cut Pro, there I understand they don't want people using iMovie without a new Mac.
Here are a few articles about this topic to chew on:
Legal restrictions stop the sale of SuperDrive eMac
Apple: Burn DVDs--and we'll burn you
Hope this helps the original doubter of this fact.
Spatch
You simply MUST forward your owner this URL, or have it printed out and magically appear on his keyboard one morning before he gets to work:
. ht ml
http://www.fastcompany.com/online/06/writestuff
This talks about the shuttle software team which has had 0 bugs from inception of code. All Shuttle probelms so far have been harware, but none have been software.
You and your boss really should read it.
Thanks!
Chris
You could view this post script file online here, or you could use the Windows, OS/2 or Linux viewers available here.
I can't believe he didn't mentio the software side of things when it came to the anylitical engine once: Ada Lovelace. Her name wasn't mentined in his article once.
h da y.html
5 98 3/malaspgreatbooksA/002-3155834-9131256
= Go ogle+Search&as_epq=ada+lovelace&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=l ang_en&as_qdr=all&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearc h=&safe=off
I sent him this friendly helpful email:
Subject:
History:: The Godfather of COmputing - Charles Babbage
Date:
Wed, 17 Oct 2001 09:29:00 -0700
From:
Chris Katscher
Reply-To:
spatch3(at)yahoo(dot)com
Organization:
To:
jones(at)systemtoolbox(dot)com
Yes, but what about the Godmother of computing: Ada Lovelace?
I'ts funny. Whenever I read a blurb about Charles Babbage anywhere
(even the plackard at the software reseller Babbages), I always read
about Ada Lovelace as well. I don't remember you mentioning her name
once in her article. Sure, Charles Babbage was the brains behind the
hardware of the anylitical engine, but Ada was the first person to ever
write a computer program for the first computer: The anylitical engine.
You might want to read up on this here:
http://www.scottlan.edu/lriddle/women/love.htm
and here:
http://www.adahome.com/articles/1997-12/al_birt
and here:
http://www.sdsc.edu/ScienceWomen/lovelace.html
and here:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN%3D087518
and countless other references included here:
http://www.google.com/search?as_q=&num=100&btnG
Just suggesting that you give equal light to the software side of
things, without witch the anylitical engine would have been little more
than an engineering curiosity.
Thanks for your attention!
Chris Katscher
BSD code in Windows 2000? How about BSD code in Windows 95's MS DUN 1.3??? take a look at the ile attributes for the winsock dll's:
08/14/98 04:12p 42,480 winsock.dll 4.00.1114 BSD Socket API for Windows
08/14/98 04:12p 66,560 wsock32.dll 4.00.1114 BSD Socket API for Windows
Every rule has an exception, and this is the only rule with no exceptions! Huh? -- Spatch
As of right now they can't THINK of an application. I remember reading somewhere that EVERYTHING in Math has a real life application, and that the search was on for a theory that had NO applicaion in real life. So far, AFAIK, they haven't found one and surely a theorem about triangles does have a real life application.
Every rule has an exception, and this is the only rule with no exceptions! Huh? -- Spatch
Apple has their own office suite: Appleworks (formerly known as Claris Works). From all accounts a thoroughly usefull office suite, functionally somewhere between MS works, and MS Office but for only about $100.
I don't know about them porting that to x86, they might make money at only $100 a pop and via reputation alone, but the apps would of course have to read MS Office documents.
Every rule has an exception, and this is the only rule with no exceptions! Huh? -- Spatch
Mod this guys post up! This is a very good example of how people need to post patches to Linus! Maybe this guys post needs to be eamiled to Paul Mackerras!
Every rule has an exception, and this is the only rule with no exceptions! Huh? -- Spatch
Try NetBSD, ti runs really well on those 68k mac's. I even got X windows to run on my Mac IIci, the only issue I had was the installer was v ... e ... r ... r ... y slow.
Other than that it worked great.
Every rule has an exception, and this is the only rule with no exceptions! Huh? -- Spatch
The top 4 are 33 MHz 64 Bit PCI, and the bottom one is a 66MHz 64 bit PCI slot. Ah, we finally see the maximum thruput to this bus finally: 503.54 MB/sec = (8 bytes/clock cycle) * (66,000,000 clock sysles /sec)
The above is of course assuming 1 CPU clock cycle per transfer of data.
Every rule has an exception, and this is the only rule with no exceptions! Huh? -- Spatch
Compile hfs support into the kernel. I know that Kernel 2.2.13 had this support... I have done it and was able to access a Mac CD mouted as HFS... (resource forks were in special . directories).
Every rule has an exception, and this is the only rule with no exceptions! Huh? -- Spatch
When tracerouting the first of the microsoft DNS servers:
207.46.138.11 dns4.cp.msft.net
207.46.138.12 dns5.cp.msft.net
207.46.138.20 dns6.cp.msft.net
207.46.138.21 dns7.cp.msft.net
I get this as the result (dead router somewhere):
traceroute to 207.46.138.11 (207.46.138.11), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 fe2-0-0.cr1.PHX.gblx.net (206.165.6.193) 14 ms 51 ms 3 ms
2 pos3-0.cr1.PHX1.gblx.net (206.132.117.81) 3 ms 3 ms 2 ms
3 pos5-3-622M.cr1.SEA1.gblx.net (206.132.41.150) 44 ms 43 ms 44 ms
4 pos0-0-0-155M.br1.SEA1.gblx.net (206.132.41.98) 44 ms 43 ms 44 ms
5 fgcpeering.BLAZINGROUTER.microsoft.com (206.251.1.206) 47 ms 46 ms 45 ms
6 207.46.190.109 (207.46.190.109) 45 ms 46 ms 46 ms
7 * * *
8 * * *
9 * * *
10 * * *
11 * * *
12 * * *
13 * * *
14 * * *
Every rule has an exception, and this is the only rule with no exceptions! Huh? -- Spatch
MacWeek Article: Jobs slams computer retailers
It's interesting how the story on MacWeek focuses on Jobs blasting retailers treatment of Mac customers, whereas Wired's story focused on Jobs's cussing.
Every rule has an exception, and this is the only rule with no exceptions! Huh? -- Spatch
Maybe if you didn't care about it you wouldn't have written about it, but since you took the time to waste your time and ours with your lame comment you must care about this story in some form or another.
Every rule has an exception, and this is the only rule with no exceptions! Huh? -- Spatch
Everything you said above is correct except for these subtle exceptions:
:)
Apple reserved the first 8 MB of memory address space for Rom, I/O stuff, leaving the top 8 MB for programs and the MacOS to run in. This was the 16 MB barrier of the 24 bit memory addressing of the early 68K processors. This means that if you had more than 8 MB on your Apple Logic Board, you would see it getting gobbled up by your system heap, only leaving you the difference of what the system heap didn't need: i.e.: If you had 32 MB Ram, and only had booted into 24 bit addressing mode (or didn't have Mode32 installed), you would see your system heap taking up 26 MB with only 6 MB available to run programs in. As of Mac OS 7.6 I don't believe you could use 24 bit addressing anymore.
It's interesting that Apple had the foresight at the time (1982?) to reserve the bottom of memory for what they thought they needed for hardware address space, leaving the sky the limit for adding memory above the 16MB barrier when Motorolla overcame that limitation of their processors.
This is in stark contrast with Intel/IBM/MS that decided to reserve memory at 640 MB of memory in the x86, setting an ultimate upper limit to never be overcome in real mode.
Trying to install NetBSD on old 68K based Macs helps you sort all of this stuff out.
Every rule has an exception, and this is the only rule with no exceptions! Huh? -- Spatch