Having had to use and support enough Microsoft crap over the years, I consider it to be suspicious that there's a "problem" appearing after Microsoft introduces a competing product.
Although I am sure that Microsoft's anti-virus/anti-spyware uses less CPU and memory, what with all the undocumented Windows features which were mysteriously used in their software.
I was with you till you said this, which clearly shows you've never used it. It was originally Giant anti-spyware, Microsoft bought it. Microsoft antispyware is a very good product, and usually the one I use last in a scan to clean up what the others missed. It is however very sluggish, and asks the user too many questions that they don't know how to answer, with a big 'ACCEPT' or 'BLOCK' button underneath.
Guess which one they always press?
Their anti-virus is Kaspersky, because they bought that too. Kaspersky is the only antivirus besides Nod I would use, but Nod is faster I think and also still independently owned.
We used to do the same, then we just started using AVG Pro for businesses. Problem is, Symantec has a much more thorough virus database, and AVG's detection rate just isn't there for me. Nod32 has been the answer to all my problems.
That's the trick, it can be both. It's like the CPU id that Intel started putting into chips and everybody flipped out about several years ago. Only this time it's actually active and checked. It can be used to make sure you only play a certain file a certain amount of times, but it can also be used to make sure that files don't do things they aren't supposed to.
I bet you're also against 'Trusted Computing'. As many evil implications as it has, hardware control is the only way to make truly secure computers. I also personally am not entirely comfortable with all the applications on my Windows computer being Microsoft applications. If they supply everything out of the box, will you use it? 'Seatbelts, safety glass, and airbags' are basic components of a car, so what are the basic applications of a computer? Doesn't Microsoft already do a lot of them? Don't we have third party applications for almost everything? It seems to me there are situations where it's best to use Windows' inbuilt functionality, and sometimes when you HAVE to use a third party program. I say the situation is not so bad the way it is, and things like execute disable are only going to help. Things like buffer overflows are where a lot of the problems are, and those have been around for ever. This is where I lose any hope of being modded up, but I think Microsoft is a good company. They do terrible things like most corporations now days, but as a company they are pretty damn good. If it weren't for lawyers they and the rest of the world would be a lot better.
Wah Wah, we aren't 100% familiar with this and it makes our jobs hard so we're gonna blame it on the software and not our own inability to learn. It's not like how it works is a secret.
I'm going to go against the grain and agree with you here. I'm a tech at a small town computer shop and we manage a bunch of local church networks and stuff like that. Standardizing on IE is the easiest thing to do. I've tried switching individual users to firefox and all its gotten me is lots of phone calls with questions as to why this doesn't work or how to do such and such.
I love firefox and use it myself, but I'm only one man and firefox is not really designed for corporate deployments and such just yet.
Seriously though, you may be right. I think part of the problem is that those of us here used aol 5-20 years ago, and haven't had much experience with it recently (by choice, mostly). Same goes for me, but being a tech in a small shop I have to see aol more than I would like. I don't think their spyware detection is very good, as I've seen computers so infected I had to wipe them with a nice big "AOL Anti-Spyware!" icon right there on the desktop with all the other icons that they don't know what they do. Also, it's based on Aluria, which I don't like very much.
Since I don't use it daily (thank God) I can't comment on running it all the time, but it seems to not quite be so horrible lately as it used to be, and of course the point about it being training wheels for the internet is valid, and I'm glad they're getting better wheels.
Has anyone else noticed that according to the Symantec security response page, this virus removes several common spyware files? kills process, removes registry entry, and deletes. I suppose it does this so that it will have the machine's internet connection mostly to itself, but I find that fascinating.
microsoft does provide support. you have to pay for it, same as oracle, but you can talk to ms on the phone for 8 hours until you get resolution as well.
I too deal with spyware infested systems quite a bit, and I also doubt the 56,000 number. I've never seen anything remotely close to that, but I have seen a combination of Aluria, MSAS, and Ad-Aware come up with a total of nearly 2000 objects. FWIW.
LiveCDs for one. A Knoppix CD is a good thing to keep around if you're around computers a lot. Not to mention the ten kazillion specialized livecds that came around after Knoppix.
Price, for another. For a person like me with a really old computer and no money, price is a strong point. Since I've used Linux before and don't really need the books or support, I don't pay anything for it.
Linux hardware support has come a long way. XP doesn't work with some of my hardware (sound, modem) while Linux supports it just fine.
Of all the god-awful color schemes the/. editors come up with, this one I like. I have also never noticed it before. I'm thinking of installing proxomitron or something to change all the slashdot urls to linux.slashdot.org as I recently discovered you could do that to change the color scheme.
you are absolutely right. there are lots of sites that i read and am grateful for, but which have ads.
i, however, still block those ads. HOWEVER, i only do this because i am on dialup, and ads these days have gotten EXTRAORDINARILY fucking annoying. we all block popups, i would bet. how is that any different than choosing to block an ad because it's annoying?
that said, i subscribe to slashdot AND block ads.osdn.com. sometimes i even click on an ad (minus annoying image of course) just to support the site.
so in conclusion, yes, it is unethical to use that website's resources and completely avoid giving them any payback, but sometimes those ads are blocked for a reason. if you want to support the site, support the site, but you wont convince me to support the site by being annoyed.
Hell yes that helps. I'm a pretty big fan of B5 myself (it's the ONLY scifi show on tv that I've ever thought was any good at all), and I hadn't thought much about the books. I needed some new books to read, looks like I found them:)
me too! it had so much potential. i want to know more about the technomages and the drakh war and the telepath war and all we get's a bunch of nothin'. damn tnt. damn them to hell!
As a browser, it renders well but lacks Mozilla's precision and ease of right click advert and image blocking.
exactly why i dont use it. however, i agree that it does everything else pretty damn well. i too like how everything flows seemlessly. funny, that's what i always hated about ie. probably because ie doesnt do it right.
i know what you mean about konqueror, except i'm kind of the opposite. i like it, and use it because it is well integrated (in a way that ie could never be), but not as much as i like firefox. i've gotten used to firefox and a certain set of plugins (*cough* adblock) to make everything how i like it.
spell checking is a nice little feature, but it's not for me as i am a spelling nazi already. perhaps you could familiarize me with some other reasons you use konqueror? i admit i am not yet too familiar with all its little features, but im sure there are some nice ones.
everyone always forgets little konq and nautilus (that is the name of gnome's browser, right? see, i dont even remember!) when talking about browser discussions.
Slashdot Mirror
http://www.nod32.com/ is what you're looking for.
Having had to use and support enough Microsoft crap over the years, I consider it to be suspicious that there's a "problem" appearing after Microsoft introduces a competing product.
Although I am sure that Microsoft's anti-virus/anti-spyware uses less CPU and memory, what with all the undocumented Windows features which were mysteriously used in their software.
I was with you till you said this, which clearly shows you've never used it. It was originally Giant anti-spyware, Microsoft bought it. Microsoft antispyware is a very good product, and usually the one I use last in a scan to clean up what the others missed. It is however very sluggish, and asks the user too many questions that they don't know how to answer, with a big 'ACCEPT' or 'BLOCK' button underneath.
Guess which one they always press?
Their anti-virus is Kaspersky, because they bought that too. Kaspersky is the only antivirus besides Nod I would use, but Nod is faster I think and also still independently owned.
We used to do the same, then we just started using AVG Pro for businesses. Problem is, Symantec has a much more thorough virus database, and AVG's detection rate just isn't there for me. Nod32 has been the answer to all my problems.
That's the trick, it can be both. It's like the CPU id that Intel started putting into chips and everybody flipped out about several years ago. Only this time it's actually active and checked. It can be used to make sure you only play a certain file a certain amount of times, but it can also be used to make sure that files don't do things they aren't supposed to.
I bet you're also against 'Trusted Computing'. As many evil implications as it has, hardware control is the only way to make truly secure computers. I also personally am not entirely comfortable with all the applications on my Windows computer being Microsoft applications. If they supply everything out of the box, will you use it? 'Seatbelts, safety glass, and airbags' are basic components of a car, so what are the basic applications of a computer? Doesn't Microsoft already do a lot of them? Don't we have third party applications for almost everything? It seems to me there are situations where it's best to use Windows' inbuilt functionality, and sometimes when you HAVE to use a third party program. I say the situation is not so bad the way it is, and things like execute disable are only going to help. Things like buffer overflows are where a lot of the problems are, and those have been around for ever. This is where I lose any hope of being modded up, but I think Microsoft is a good company. They do terrible things like most corporations now days, but as a company they are pretty damn good. If it weren't for lawyers they and the rest of the world would be a lot better.
Wah Wah, we aren't 100% familiar with this and it makes our jobs hard so we're gonna blame it on the software and not our own inability to learn. It's not like how it works is a secret.
I'm going to go against the grain and agree with you here. I'm a tech at a small town computer shop and we manage a bunch of local church networks and stuff like that. Standardizing on IE is the easiest thing to do. I've tried switching individual users to firefox and all its gotten me is lots of phone calls with questions as to why this doesn't work or how to do such and such.
I love firefox and use it myself, but I'm only one man and firefox is not really designed for corporate deployments and such just yet.
Steve? Steve Case? Is that you?
Seriously though, you may be right. I think part of the problem is that those of us here used aol 5-20 years ago, and haven't had much experience with it recently (by choice, mostly). Same goes for me, but being a tech in a small shop I have to see aol more than I would like. I don't think their spyware detection is very good, as I've seen computers so infected I had to wipe them with a nice big "AOL Anti-Spyware!" icon right there on the desktop with all the other icons that they don't know what they do. Also, it's based on Aluria, which I don't like very much.
Since I don't use it daily (thank God) I can't comment on running it all the time, but it seems to not quite be so horrible lately as it used to be, and of course the point about it being training wheels for the internet is valid, and I'm glad they're getting better wheels.
Has anyone else noticed that according to the Symantec security response page, this virus removes several common spyware files? kills process, removes registry entry, and deletes. I suppose it does this so that it will have the machine's internet connection mostly to itself, but I find that fascinating.
probably cause when you hold up a Duracell battery, everyone knows what it is. try that with a processor, even an Intel one.
and many, many more are coming standard with front-mounted USB ports.
funny that practicing something that was official 100 years ago can get you kicked out now. some divine inspiration.
microsoft does provide support. you have to pay for it, same as oracle, but you can talk to ms on the phone for 8 hours until you get resolution as well.
I too deal with spyware infested systems quite a bit, and I also doubt the 56,000 number. I've never seen anything remotely close to that, but I have seen a combination of Aluria, MSAS, and Ad-Aware come up with a total of nearly 2000 objects. FWIW.
do we really need to say it? i've seen them before. ON PORN SITES.
also apparently on some shockwave game sites.
ruining his pr0n folder?! now you've gone too far man!
As does Suse. The default is also yes. This is a Good Thing.
It already does a couple things really well.
LiveCDs for one. A Knoppix CD is a good thing to keep around if you're around computers a lot. Not to mention the ten kazillion specialized livecds that came around after Knoppix.
Price, for another. For a person like me with a really old computer and no money, price is a strong point. Since I've used Linux before and don't really need the books or support, I don't pay anything for it.
Linux hardware support has come a long way. XP doesn't work with some of my hardware (sound, modem) while Linux supports it just fine.
Of all the god-awful color schemes the /. editors come up with, this one I like. I have also never noticed it before. I'm thinking of installing proxomitron or something to change all the slashdot urls to linux.slashdot.org as I recently discovered you could do that to change the color scheme.
anyway, carry on.
...are you a cop? if so, then i guess that makes you quite the opposite then. just go easy on the stoners :)
lazy bastard
you are absolutely right. there are lots of sites that i read and am grateful for, but which have ads.
i, however, still block those ads. HOWEVER, i only do this because i am on dialup, and ads these days have gotten EXTRAORDINARILY fucking annoying. we all block popups, i would bet. how is that any different than choosing to block an ad because it's annoying?
that said, i subscribe to slashdot AND block ads.osdn.com. sometimes i even click on an ad (minus annoying image of course) just to support the site.
so in conclusion, yes, it is unethical to use that website's resources and completely avoid giving them any payback, but sometimes those ads are blocked for a reason. if you want to support the site, support the site, but you wont convince me to support the site by being annoyed.
Hell yes that helps. I'm a pretty big fan of B5 myself (it's the ONLY scifi show on tv that I've ever thought was any good at all), and I hadn't thought much about the books. I needed some new books to read, looks like I found them :)
me too! it had so much potential. i want to know more about the technomages and the drakh war and the telepath war and all we get's a bunch of nothin'. damn tnt. damn them to hell!
As a browser, it renders well but lacks Mozilla's precision and ease of right click advert and image blocking.
exactly why i dont use it. however, i agree that it does everything else pretty damn well. i too like how everything flows seemlessly. funny, that's what i always hated about ie. probably because ie doesnt do it right.
i know what you mean about konqueror, except i'm kind of the opposite. i like it, and use it because it is well integrated (in a way that ie could never be), but not as much as i like firefox. i've gotten used to firefox and a certain set of plugins (*cough* adblock) to make everything how i like it.
spell checking is a nice little feature, but it's not for me as i am a spelling nazi already. perhaps you could familiarize me with some other reasons you use konqueror? i admit i am not yet too familiar with all its little features, but im sure there are some nice ones.
everyone always forgets little konq and nautilus (that is the name of gnome's browser, right? see, i dont even remember!) when talking about browser discussions.