LOL the perfect apple user, not to bright; condescending and bit of an asshole. You and 13 year old girls are apples target market. Congratulations
*thud*, *thud*, *thud*... the sharp wit and piercing wisdom of your words impact and demolish my sense of self worth like bullets from a 44 magnum... Seriously though, Is that The best you can do?
Recycling plastic is a SOLVED problem. Burn it hot (with gas), for fuel value, generate electricity, use the waste heat. Make new plastic from oil. That solution will work until oil is much more expensive, then we switch to plant based plastic.
And all the time we are releasing copious quantities of CO2 into the atmosphere. What you are describing is not recycling, it's polluting. It would be much more effective to ban single use plastics packaging and the likes and then require any replacements to be either recyclable or easily biodegradable.
When the iPhone hit the market everybody went back to the drawing board and the next thing you know they're all, by some cosmic coincidence, selling phones that look like more or less exactly like the iPhone. But of course none of them copied what Apple was doing... perish the thought.
Don't get into ANY argument with LynwoodRooster or BronsCon on ANY Apple subject. They will simply supply circular logic in post after post until you give up in exasperation.
Then they will feel like they have "won", when all they have actually done is wear you out; because they both seem to have nothing better to do than debate on Slashdot All. Day. Long.
Yeah but I've been around since all telephones were grey and only worked if you attached them to a wall with a cable. Converting that from tech years to human years it's like having been around since there were still Neanderthals walking the earth. It's downright fun when these whippersnappers lecture me with such condescending arrogance on things like who was the first to market a mobile phone without a keyboard or key pad. Oh, and I do agree LynwoodRooster's posts tend not to make much sense. I blame it on these guys having spent their entire youth walking into hard and pointy objects because their faces were glued to a smartphone display 24/7.
FYI, the center pic in your link should be of an LG Prada, not an iPhone. The Prada was the first smartphone to go without a keyboard or keypad, not the iPhone. As I keep telling people, just because the first time you saw a feature was on an Apple product, does not mean Apple invented it.
Hehe... really? According to that article the first image of the LG Prada came out in 2007 and it was released in December 2008. I actually still have a HP iPaq H6340 tablet phone that I bought back in 2004 or 2005, no physical keyboard, no physical keypad, just a software keyboard and a phone app. You could get an extra snap on keyboard but I never found much use for it.
So Samsung has been making mobile phones for a while. What the hell does that have to do with anything?
You answered your own question:
I remember the original Samsung smartphones. They were so similar to the 1-3G iPhones I inadvertently walked off with a Samsung phone a couple of times when I mistook one for my iPhone 3G.
Seems Apple was the one copying, if what you say is true.
[clicks link to view image]
Oh.
Well, now...
If the original Samsung smartphones look like iPhones to you, you might need to get your eyes checked.
Dude, the iPhone came out first, the Samsung copy came out after the iPhone. so unless Apple has a time machine it was Samsung that copied the iPhone 1G.
Apple sued Samsung for allegedly copying the design of the iPhone in the creation of its own line of smartphones
Samsung was making smartphones back in 2001, when Apple was trying to figure out how to copy Creative's MP3 player. Apple may have complained about Samsung copying the iPhone for a later line of smartphones, but Samsung was one of the early pioneers in the smartphone space, well before Apple even thought about getting into the space.
So Samsung has been making mobile phones for a while. What the hell does that have to do with anything? I remember the original Samsung smartphones. They were so similar to the 1-3G iPhones I inadvertently walked off with a Samsung phone a couple of times when I mistook one for my iPhone 3G. Here's a graphic that kind of says it all: http://allthingsd.com/files/20...
I saw one of the first Android prototypes too. It was a half screen and half keyboard affair that was clearly meant to be a Blackberry killer. Nobody took Apple seriously as a phone manufacturer, they all figured Apple would bring out some kind of glorified iPod with a keypad. When the iPhone hit the market everybody went back to the drawing board and the next thing you know they're all, by some cosmic coincidence, selling phones that look like more or less exactly like the iPhone. But of course none of them copied what Apple was doing... perish the thought.
But you do know that people only exhale as much CO2 as the food they eat took from the atmosphere?
I don't tend to "know" things that are false.
CO2 exhalation is a result of a chemical process in our body, and has no relation whatsoever to the amount of whatever we consumed itself consuming CO2. I mean, how on earth to you square your insane belief system with someone on an all-meat diet, where a cow itself exhales CO2 and then we kill the cow and eat it and ourselves produce CO2 in turn? What about someone on an all-water diet for a week or two who continues to exhale CO2?
Talk about anti-science...
If that was true, and every one of the trillions of life forms on earth generated more CO2 by exhaling than it consumed indirectly by consuming other plants or life forms, life would have exhaled itself into extinction by climate change a long, long, long time ago.
All the carbon in our body comes either directly or indirectly from plants, which took it out of the air only recently... Therefore, when we breathe out, all the carbon dioxide we exhale has already been accounted for. We are simply returning to the air the same carbon that was there to begin with. Remember, it's a carbon cycle, not a straight line - and a good thing, too!
Useless trade wars have cost me nearly $50K this week. CEOs are almost all universally bad at economics, especially if they have a degree in economics.
What an outrageous comment!!! I'll have you know that the current POTUS is one of the greatest and most stable business geniuses of all time.
"Apparently (and somewhat astonishingly) this possibility had never been evaluated."
Gee, I wonder why no one ever "researched" this. Maybe they can study why wolves aren't commonly found around major cities next.
Actually wolves and foxes are pretty commonly found inside and around cities in many parts of the world. The reason is that there is plenty of food there in the form of rubbish (and pets), that in the densely settled areas people usually mistake them for dogs and the ones that don't mistake them for dogs are normally arrested the instant they start shooting at these animals inside of town or city limits because it is illegal and endangers the lives of other humans so cities are a surprisingly safe place for wolves and foxes.
In Twitler's case it's the Dems that get blamed. He'll claim there's some law the Dems passed that requires him to do it (even though it was really passed by Republicans.) Even with control of the house and the senate he can't manage to get anything passed.
What a fucking loser he is. Jeebus H Christ, I almost wish we had W back.
Look on the bright side! Trump has promised to make the Martians pay for the cleanup..
I think he's arguing that it's not the app store Apple should be forced to open up, but the iPhone itself.
As in allowing people to buy a Samsung iPhone.
You mean they should open up the Toyota product line, as in allowing people to buy a Dongfeng built Toyota Avensis and then market it under the Toyota trade mark? I can see how it might be a good idea to allow third party app stores for iOS as long as there are certain guarantees of them filtering out malware. However, forcing Apple to allow competitors to build copies of Apple's devices and to then allow them to market them these copies under Apple's registered trade marks (which is what a 'Samsung iPhone' would be) is a bit much.
Additionally, the GrayKey has built in future capabilities that will begin to be leveraged as time goes on
Holy Crap! Should invest in those guys because they are from the future, so much so they have built in capabilities for bugs and security features that don't exist yet! So sweet! (Other than that, sounds like marketing on GrayShift's part)
Whenever I hear some corporate drone use words like 'leveraged' and 'synergised' I immediately suspect them to be full of shit.
Conservatives are pro-the way things have always been up until now.
Yup, they are the if it ain't broke don't fix it crowd and if they were in charge the internet would literally consist of a series of vacuum message tubes for passing type written notes form person to person and mobile connectivity would consist of a 9kg vacuum tube voice radio set in a back pack mount with a telephone receiver hung off the side.
Solar with energy storage has a capacity factor that's near that of nuclear.
Now that's damn funny. Yeah, a power station which can only operate at anything near the rated output for maybe 7 hours per day is is going to be "near" nuclear which can operate at peak all day long. Hilarious.
Good storage tech would improve the capacity factor somewhat because we wouldn't have to "dump" energy at peak, but you're dreaming if you think it could possibly come anywhere close to nuclear. You can't have solar output when the sun ain't shining, and batteries don't change that. Physics doesn't work that way.
If I have to choose between greedy corporate executives taking shortcuts on safety and me ending up breathing radioactive air, or, choosing solar energy with storage I'll always choose solar energy and storage. You can try all day to paint a big yellow smiley on the nuclear option but it simply has too lousy a reputation. The large majority of the public does not want nuclear and that is not likely to ever change.
You'd never get them to stay, they're drawn to liberal paradises like San Francisco like flies to shit.
Judging by how much they relish complaining about them, and considering that liberal paradises like San Francisco subsidise most of red America's economy, it's social conservatives that are drawn to liberal paradises such as San Francisco like flies to shit.
As it is prone to, Apple has decided that its customers are too stupid to do this. Yes, some will find a way by compiling code to do it but the inability to do that is not a definition of stupid. This sort of thing plays into the hands of totalitarian governments (EG Chinese, N Korean etc), over protective governments (US, UK etc) and criminal organisations (various TLA's for example)
Alternatively, is this just another case of "we know better than you what you want to do"?
Or maybe the reason is just what it says in the summary, that Apple is:
"blocking developers from eating Apple device processing power for mining activities... When it blocked Calendar 2 in March, Apple cited section 2.4.2 of its Review Guidelines, noting that a background process to mine currencies in exchange for access to premium features ran afoul of its device resource drain restrictions... Design your app to use power efficiently. Apps should not rapidly drain battery, generate excessive heat, or put unnecessary strain on device resources. Apps, including any third party advertisements displayed within them, may not run unrelated background processes, such as cryptocurrency mining.".
So who should one go with here?... Occam's razor and TFA , or, the angry conspiracy theorist?... I think I'll pick the former until somebody actually presents irrefutable proof of this grand conspiracy on the part of Apple to destroy democracy and propagate dictatorship and totalitarian government throughout the world.
What on earth makes you think the Republicans control Trump?
Trump might spasm around a bit on the Republican talking points and agenda, but at the end of the day he knows that without Congress's backing he won't actually get anything done (except a disturbing number of inappropriate and celebrity pardons). He's also no doubt been told that congressional mid-terms are just around the corner and if his party loses many seats in the house or senate then he's pretty much screwed.
Trump might be singing off-key and marching like a drunkard, but he's still singing and dancing to the Repub theme song.
True, but Trump also commands the loyalty of a large portion of the Republican base which has come to loathe the guts out of the Republican establishment. John Boehner put it rather well the other day: "There is no Republican Party. There's a Trump Party, The Republican Party is kind of taking a nap somewhere". If Trump puts his mind to it he can easily channel that loathing of the Republican establishment into splitting the Republican party. That would create an interesting situation in a country with two parties each of whom has a relatively firm control of about 45% of Congress and where control of Congress depends on the vagrancies of a small number of swing voters.
And when the political power flips again in the future, the new administration will bring back the regulations.
This is why Internet regulation shouldn't be run by the FCC in the first place with their 5 votes. It's always going to flip flop based on which party controls the president.
I'd like to see congress pass some Internet regulations and let the FTC enforce it.
What on earth makes you think the Republicans control Trump?
National socialism (nationalsozialismus) != socialism.
You cannot simply split up the word into "national" and "socialism" and then consider each word separately, because it's supposed to be one word in its native language, where the definition comes from. English doesn't do conjugated verbs, which leads to this silly (or intentional, by idiots) misunderstanding.
It should be "nationalsocialism", which is distinct from both "nationalism" and "socialism".
But I bet you already knew that, and you're just being a dumbass.
Yup, much like the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (a.k.a. N-Korea) is neither Democratic nor is it a Republic.
You've never gotten a CCW permit, have you? The process usually involves getting your fingerprints taken at the local sheriff's office, fill out a couple forms, then they mail it to you a few months later. At no point is anyone waiting in a line outside for it to get stamped or printed or whatever your mental fantasy is.
That's still not a reason to go into full-on wingnut snowflake mode and launch into a rant about mass shootings. You seem like a very angry person. Have you considered therapy?
"angry NRA members"? Remind me... how many people have NRA members killed over the last year?... or decade? Sure they might use harsh tones at times, but they tend to be a pretty non-violent group. Despite all of the rhetoric, CPL holders tend to be far less violent than the average member of the surrounding population: https://www.ammoland.com/2018/...
Simmer down dude... no need to go full snowflake on me. I only meant angry at standing in a line and waiting for their license in the Florida heat. I'm pretty sure that would get pretty much anybody rather cranky after the first 30-45 minutes or so.
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LOL the perfect apple user, not to bright; condescending and bit of an asshole. You and 13 year old girls are apples target market. Congratulations
*thud*, *thud*, *thud* ... the sharp wit and piercing wisdom of your words impact and demolish my sense of self worth like bullets from a 44 magnum ... Seriously though, Is that The best you can do?
Recycling plastic is a SOLVED problem. Burn it hot (with gas), for fuel value, generate electricity, use the waste heat. Make new plastic from oil. That solution will work until oil is much more expensive, then we switch to plant based plastic.
And all the time we are releasing copious quantities of CO2 into the atmosphere. What you are describing is not recycling, it's polluting. It would be much more effective to ban single use plastics packaging and the likes and then require any replacements to be either recyclable or easily biodegradable.
When the iPhone hit the market everybody went back to the drawing board and the next thing you know they're all, by some cosmic coincidence, selling phones that look like more or less exactly like the iPhone. But of course none of them copied what Apple was doing ... perish the thought.
Don't get into ANY argument with LynwoodRooster or BronsCon on ANY Apple subject. They will simply supply circular logic in post after post until you give up in exasperation.
Then they will feel like they have "won", when all they have actually done is wear you out; because they both seem to have nothing better to do than debate on Slashdot All. Day. Long.
Yeah but I've been around since all telephones were grey and only worked if you attached them to a wall with a cable. Converting that from tech years to human years it's like having been around since there were still Neanderthals walking the earth. It's downright fun when these whippersnappers lecture me with such condescending arrogance on things like who was the first to market a mobile phone without a keyboard or key pad. Oh, and I do agree LynwoodRooster's posts tend not to make much sense. I blame it on these guys having spent their entire youth walking into hard and pointy objects because their faces were glued to a smartphone display 24/7.
FYI, the center pic in your link should be of an LG Prada, not an iPhone. The Prada was the first smartphone to go without a keyboard or keypad, not the iPhone. As I keep telling people, just because the first time you saw a feature was on an Apple product, does not mean Apple invented it.
Hehe... really? According to that article the first image of the LG Prada came out in 2007 and it was released in December 2008. I actually still have a HP iPaq H6340 tablet phone that I bought back in 2004 or 2005, no physical keyboard, no physical keypad, just a software keyboard and a phone app. You could get an extra snap on keyboard but I never found much use for it.
So Samsung has been making mobile phones for a while. What the hell does that have to do with anything?
You answered your own question:
I remember the original Samsung smartphones. They were so similar to the 1-3G iPhones I inadvertently walked off with a Samsung phone a couple of times when I mistook one for my iPhone 3G.
Seems Apple was the one copying, if what you say is true. [clicks link to view image] Oh. Well, now... If the original Samsung smartphones look like iPhones to you, you might need to get your eyes checked.
Dude, the iPhone came out first, the Samsung copy came out after the iPhone. so unless Apple has a time machine it was Samsung that copied the iPhone 1G.
Apple sued Samsung for allegedly copying the design of the iPhone in the creation of its own line of smartphones
Samsung was making smartphones back in 2001, when Apple was trying to figure out how to copy Creative's MP3 player. Apple may have complained about Samsung copying the iPhone for a later line of smartphones, but Samsung was one of the early pioneers in the smartphone space, well before Apple even thought about getting into the space.
So Samsung has been making mobile phones for a while. What the hell does that have to do with anything? I remember the original Samsung smartphones. They were so similar to the 1-3G iPhones I inadvertently walked off with a Samsung phone a couple of times when I mistook one for my iPhone 3G. Here's a graphic that kind of says it all: http://allthingsd.com/files/20... I saw one of the first Android prototypes too. It was a half screen and half keyboard affair that was clearly meant to be a Blackberry killer. Nobody took Apple seriously as a phone manufacturer, they all figured Apple would bring out some kind of glorified iPod with a keypad. When the iPhone hit the market everybody went back to the drawing board and the next thing you know they're all, by some cosmic coincidence, selling phones that look like more or less exactly like the iPhone. But of course none of them copied what Apple was doing ... perish the thought.
With lots of money you can buy almost anything, except wisdom. Ask Larry's buddy Steve J. about that...
Why go and ask him? All I have to do is watch Donald Trump talk.
Yes, and somewhere there are pink unicorns frolicking in the meadow. The Universe is big enough to generate just about anything, right?
Depends on who you ask.
But you do know that people only exhale as much CO2 as the food they eat took from the atmosphere?
I don't tend to "know" things that are false.
CO2 exhalation is a result of a chemical process in our body, and has no relation whatsoever to the amount of whatever we consumed itself consuming CO2. I mean, how on earth to you square your insane belief system with someone on an all-meat diet, where a cow itself exhales CO2 and then we kill the cow and eat it and ourselves produce CO2 in turn? What about someone on an all-water diet for a week or two who continues to exhale CO2?
Talk about anti-science...
If that was true, and every one of the trillions of life forms on earth generated more CO2 by exhaling than it consumed indirectly by consuming other plants or life forms, life would have exhaled itself into extinction by climate change a long, long, long time ago.
... Therefore, when we breathe out, all the carbon dioxide we exhale has already been accounted for. We are simply returning to the air the same carbon that was there to begin with. Remember, it's a carbon cycle, not a straight line - and a good thing, too!
All the carbon in our body comes either directly or indirectly from plants, which took it out of the air only recently
https://www.skepticalscience.c...
Useless trade wars have cost me nearly $50K this week. CEOs are almost all universally bad at economics, especially if they have a degree in economics.
What an outrageous comment!!! I'll have you know that the current POTUS is one of the greatest and most stable business geniuses of all time.
"Apparently (and somewhat astonishingly) this possibility had never been evaluated." Gee, I wonder why no one ever "researched" this. Maybe they can study why wolves aren't commonly found around major cities next.
Actually wolves and foxes are pretty commonly found inside and around cities in many parts of the world. The reason is that there is plenty of food there in the form of rubbish (and pets), that in the densely settled areas people usually mistake them for dogs and the ones that don't mistake them for dogs are normally arrested the instant they start shooting at these animals inside of town or city limits because it is illegal and endangers the lives of other humans so cities are a surprisingly safe place for wolves and foxes.
85-10 is pretty squarely in the "override veto" territory.
IIRC there has to be a super majority in both houses for it to be veto proof.
In Twitler's case it's the Dems that get blamed. He'll claim there's some law the Dems passed that requires him to do it (even though it was really passed by Republicans.) Even with control of the house and the senate he can't manage to get anything passed.
What a fucking loser he is. Jeebus H Christ, I almost wish we had W back.
Look on the bright side! Trump has promised to make the Martians pay for the cleanup..
I think he's arguing that it's not the app store Apple should be forced to open up, but the iPhone itself.
As in allowing people to buy a Samsung iPhone.
You mean they should open up the Toyota product line, as in allowing people to buy a Dongfeng built Toyota Avensis and then market it under the Toyota trade mark? I can see how it might be a good idea to allow third party app stores for iOS as long as there are certain guarantees of them filtering out malware. However, forcing Apple to allow competitors to build copies of Apple's devices and to then allow them to market them these copies under Apple's registered trade marks (which is what a 'Samsung iPhone' would be) is a bit much.
Additionally, the GrayKey has built in future capabilities that will begin to be leveraged as time goes on
Holy Crap! Should invest in those guys because they are from the future, so much so they have built in capabilities for bugs and security features that don't exist yet! So sweet! (Other than that, sounds like marketing on GrayShift's part)
Whenever I hear some corporate drone use words like 'leveraged' and 'synergised' I immediately suspect them to be full of shit.
Obviously we just need to build a bunch of 6" stilts to raise all buildings along the coast. Done.
Now I'm off to disprove this globe earth thing with my lawn chair and 45 helium balloons.
Don't forget the BB gun.
Pro-business? Since when?
Conservatives are pro-the way things have always been up until now.
Yup, they are the if it ain't broke don't fix it crowd and if they were in charge the internet would literally consist of a series of vacuum message tubes for passing type written notes form person to person and mobile connectivity would consist of a 9kg vacuum tube voice radio set in a back pack mount with a telephone receiver hung off the side.
Solar with energy storage has a capacity factor that's near that of nuclear.
Now that's damn funny. Yeah, a power station which can only operate at anything near the rated output for maybe 7 hours per day is is going to be "near" nuclear which can operate at peak all day long. Hilarious.
Good storage tech would improve the capacity factor somewhat because we wouldn't have to "dump" energy at peak, but you're dreaming if you think it could possibly come anywhere close to nuclear. You can't have solar output when the sun ain't shining, and batteries don't change that. Physics doesn't work that way.
If I have to choose between greedy corporate executives taking shortcuts on safety and me ending up breathing radioactive air, or, choosing solar energy with storage I'll always choose solar energy and storage. You can try all day to paint a big yellow smiley on the nuclear option but it simply has too lousy a reputation. The large majority of the public does not want nuclear and that is not likely to ever change.
You'd never get them to stay, they're drawn to liberal paradises like San Francisco like flies to shit.
Judging by how much they relish complaining about them, and considering that liberal paradises like San Francisco subsidise most of red America's economy, it's social conservatives that are drawn to liberal paradises such as San Francisco like flies to shit.
As it is prone to, Apple has decided that its customers are too stupid to do this. Yes, some will find a way by compiling code to do it but the inability to do that is not a definition of stupid. This sort of thing plays into the hands of totalitarian governments (EG Chinese, N Korean etc), over protective governments (US, UK etc) and criminal organisations (various TLA's for example)
Alternatively, is this just another case of "we know better than you what you want to do"?
Or maybe the reason is just what it says in the summary, that Apple is:
... When it blocked Calendar 2 in March, Apple cited section 2.4.2 of its Review Guidelines, noting that a background process to mine currencies in exchange for access to premium features ran afoul of its device resource drain restrictions ... Design your app to use power efficiently. Apps should not rapidly drain battery, generate excessive heat, or put unnecessary strain on device resources. Apps, including any third party advertisements displayed within them, may not run unrelated background processes, such as cryptocurrency mining.".
... Occam's razor and TFA , or, the angry conspiracy theorist? ... I think I'll pick the former until somebody actually presents irrefutable proof of this grand conspiracy on the part of Apple to destroy democracy and propagate dictatorship and totalitarian government throughout the world.
"blocking developers from eating Apple device processing power for mining activities
So who should one go with here?
What on earth makes you think the Republicans control Trump?
Trump might spasm around a bit on the Republican talking points and agenda, but at the end of the day he knows that without Congress's backing he won't actually get anything done (except a disturbing number of inappropriate and celebrity pardons). He's also no doubt been told that congressional mid-terms are just around the corner and if his party loses many seats in the house or senate then he's pretty much screwed.
Trump might be singing off-key and marching like a drunkard, but he's still singing and dancing to the Repub theme song.
True, but Trump also commands the loyalty of a large portion of the Republican base which has come to loathe the guts out of the Republican establishment. John Boehner put it rather well the other day: "There is no Republican Party. There's a Trump Party, The Republican Party is kind of taking a nap somewhere". If Trump puts his mind to it he can easily channel that loathing of the Republican establishment into splitting the Republican party. That would create an interesting situation in a country with two parties each of whom has a relatively firm control of about 45% of Congress and where control of Congress depends on the vagrancies of a small number of swing voters.
And when the political power flips again in the future, the new administration will bring back the regulations.
This is why Internet regulation shouldn't be run by the FCC in the first place with their 5 votes. It's always going to flip flop based on which party controls the president.
I'd like to see congress pass some Internet regulations and let the FTC enforce it.
What on earth makes you think the Republicans control Trump?
National socialism (nationalsozialismus) != socialism.
You cannot simply split up the word into "national" and "socialism" and then consider each word separately, because it's supposed to be one word in its native language, where the definition comes from. English doesn't do conjugated verbs, which leads to this silly (or intentional, by idiots) misunderstanding.
It should be "nationalsocialism", which is distinct from both "nationalism" and "socialism".
But I bet you already knew that, and you're just being a dumbass.
Yup, much like the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (a.k.a. N-Korea) is neither Democratic nor is it a Republic.
You've never gotten a CCW permit, have you? The process usually involves getting your fingerprints taken at the local sheriff's office, fill out a couple forms, then they mail it to you a few months later. At no point is anyone waiting in a line outside for it to get stamped or printed or whatever your mental fantasy is.
That's still not a reason to go into full-on wingnut snowflake mode and launch into a rant about mass shootings. You seem like a very angry person. Have you considered therapy?
"angry NRA members"? Remind me... how many people have NRA members killed over the last year? ... or decade? Sure they might use harsh tones at times, but they tend to be a pretty non-violent group. Despite all of the rhetoric, CPL holders tend to be far less violent than the average member of the surrounding population: https://www.ammoland.com/2018/...
Simmer down dude ... no need to go full snowflake on me. I only meant angry at standing in a line and waiting for their license in the Florida heat. I'm pretty sure that would get pretty much anybody rather cranky after the first 30-45 minutes or so.