As others have pointed out, no you don't. Check "Enable disk use" in your iTunes preferences. Sync iPod. Plug into friends' computers and copy their music to your iPod as you would any other hard drive. Copy it to your iTunes and sync.
Oh right, great, thanks.
I can walk around with my iPod full of music I can listen too, or I can walk around with an iPod full of music I can copy for my friends.
Nice solution - thanks Apple. I'll stick with my third party software thanks.
Who needs to license MPEG-4 AAC patents? An MPEG-4 AAC patent license is required for manufacturers or developers of complete (or substantially complete) end-user encoder and/or decoder products, or for manufacturers/developers of component encoder and/or decoder products that are
If you want to make or listen too an AAC track, you have to pay the toll (directly or indirectly). While the license is reasonable & non disriminatory - it is most certainly a proprietary format.
I'm not sure if you're being deliberately obtuse or if English is not your first language....
Anyway, a little lesson for you.
How would you define "premier"?
Words by themselves have meanings, but when you use words in sentences, they gain more meaning through context.
So, saying "The premier nerd music format" is different to saying "The premier music format."
So - what we're talking about is the music format geeks, prefer, reccommend, hack around and play with.
I think that's probably mp3 (but I'm a geek who's interested in portability), the person you replied to might consider ogg to be the premier geek format (especially if they're say, games developers and don't want to pay a license fee for in game music, or any thing else that requires a cheap, open codec). Other geeks s, (like you presumably) would consider music quality the most important factor (altough most of the lossless camp are using flac or shn as far as I can tell).
For readers who missed it - jcr thinks I don't have a point. He's not actually willing to back that up with anything other then opinion, but hey, thats good enough for me and I'm sure it will be good enough for everyone else.
Hmmmmn, well its not easy to get hard numbers on something like "preferred audio codec for nerds," but your contention that ALE is more popular with geeks then ogg is.... well I'd like to know why you think that?
Also - I just love your subtle arguing style - changing our discussion from "The Premier music format for geeks" to "The most used music format for geeks"
If you don't understand what I mean by that, consider "The premier o/s for geeks" vs "The most used o/s for geeks"
he inability to retrieve songs off the iPod as a built in feature was part of the agreement from Apple to the RIAA
Well, I'm glad you've finally come to agree with my original post At least in this case, Apple has chosen the interests of large corporations over the interests of its consumers...
The only reason that feature would exist would be to easily distribute music, illegally.
If the only music you can imagine is music it is illegal to redistrute, then I feel extemely sorry for you.
The only reason this feature exists to continue to prop up the music cartels' control of distribution.
He wasn't saying Apple should change, just that it was a dealbreaker for him - and (he contends) many other nerds - as ogg is the premier nerd music format.
You should be modded down, because this is user error... on your part. You will be prompted by iTunes which will say (paraphrased), "This iPod is synched with a different iTunes, would you like to erase this iPod and use this new iTunes to synch with?" You then have the option to click "No". If you want to grab music from othe people's iTunes, just set your iPod to manually update, and you can grab music from 100 different iTunes. If you wish to give your friends your music, just plop the actual mp3's onto your iPod as data and give it to them. Your entire beef is due to you not knowing how to use your iPod.
Perhaphs I should be modded down - but not for any of the reasons you mention.
The problem I described (a bunch of people in a room, with iPods and a computer, wondering how to pool the mp3s) is not solved by any of your methods.
As other posters have pointed out - you need third party products to do that easily.
How does this "hurt" normal consumers - realizing that 'normal' consumers are not producers of music and don't hold distribution rights to most of the music they carry on their iPods?
We have different definitions of 'normal' here. *shrug* whatever.
Also, you bolded "artificial limits". iPods don't grow on trees. Anything they do is artificial. Maybe you meant something else there?
Errr yes - everything they do is artificial. Good point.
However - I hope you're not majoring in english over at BU - artifical has meanings beyond your simplistic 'something not found in nature' definition.
I agree with you, they're trying to encourage people to not copy their friends' music libraries.
No - you agree with the OP that Apple are deliberately imposing artificial limits on their customers - that do nothing to stop pirates and everything to hurt normal consumers.
Gosh! Fashionably militant? I'm not sure what you mean, but it sounds exciting.
We are the customers. The RIAA is a cartel of suppliers.
Oh - right, thanks for clearing that up. God I was stupid for getting them the wrong way round. Or perhaps I was making a point and you're just more literal minded then the rest of the human race.
But, the vast majority of people don't have distribution rights for any of the music on their iPods.
You know - you don'thaveto be an audio engineer to get more then enough freely redistributable music to fill your iPod many times over.
If Apple were more interested in helping their customers, and less interested in helping RIAA / etc out, archive.org (at least) would be prominently featured in itunes.
As things stand they're not interested in promoting any msuic they can't make a few dollars on (even where it would not cost them anything and benefit their customers).
Drummer: Dude, lets get all this music together. tpgp: I'm not sure how we can do it. Brian Kendig: Actually, nobody wants to share music around, its as rare as people wanting to play with their toaster's heating element. tpgp, you're going to have to go back home, recopy all the files that are allready on your ipod and come back here. Drummer: Whoa? You serious dude? Everyone likes sharing music. Why does tpgp have to go all the way across town to copy the files again? They're allready here.
The iPod's UI as a standalone device is a thing of beauty. But once you connect it to itunes things go to hell. It prevents you from doing something the vast majority of portable music player owners would like to do.
Apple is just trying to keep its suppliers happy, which leads to a better supplier-distributor relationship.
You're agreeing with me then?
I said Apple is more interested in keeping its corporate partners (or suppliers as you put) happy, then it is in keeping the people who buy & use their products happy.
cd on over to/Volumes/[The name of your iPod] and cp the files across.
That sort of solution might be OK for the linux fanboys - but this is Apple (and I would like my filenames preserved, rather then have weird ipod db names)
When I plug in an iPod that is not the one that is usually synced with iTunes, it would be trivial for Apple to offer a "Add these files to your itunes collection" option.
But they don't - because their corporate partners are more important then their customers wishes.
Unfortunately - its customer is RIAA, not us the people who buy & use their products.
I'll certainly get modded down for this, but consider this scenario:
I'm in a garage band, I've got about 1000 mp3s of clips, samples, bits of me noodling around on my guitar or keyboard, live performanaces of the band, etc. I keep them all on my ipod. The other band members have similar large collections.
We all go round to the drummer's house to have a jam, we all have our ipods with us. Now - we should be able to pool all our music together. But try doing it using iTunes - its on the verge of impossible (in fact most ipod owners are afraid to plug their ipod in to someone's computer in case all the files are delete)
At least in this case, Apple has chosen the interests of large corporations over the interests of its consumers...
Biopiracy refers to the monopolization of genetic resources such as seeds and genes taken from the peoples or farming communities that have nurtured those resources. It also refers to the theft of traditional knowledge from those cultures.
Nonetheless a recent internal video released from the Googleplex shows that the company are still very actively pursuing the goal of putting genomic information online for free.
So. Google is monopolizing genetic resources by putting genetic information online for free?
There are much better things to go after google for if you don't like them (*cough*censorhip*in*China*France*Germany*US*Unwar rented*Patents*cough) and far better companies to go after for biopiracy (What a stupid term).
The monopolization of genetic information is a serious issue - people are trying to do stupid things - like attempting to apply copy protection measures (both physical and legal) to life. Life attempts to copy itself & tradional copyright / patent laws should not apply.
Unfortunately, these awards look like shameless self-promotion rather then a serious attempt to tackle the problem.
that it never impacted the Japanese directly, as it is extremely rare for a japenese person to buy a used electronics item
You're right - it is extremely rare for the Japanese to buy second hand electronics - but there is one area pointed out by the article that is a notable exception (no not Games).
Thats music.
For many people a second hand guitar & amp is not just a cheaper solution, but a superior solution. Rightly or wrongly, many people prefer the sounds of older equipment.
My question is, if I choose Kubuntu, would I get anything at all out of this book?
Judging from the review:
1st Section: Linux History 2nd Section: Installing Ubuntu 3rd Section: Ubuntu Desktop / app comparison to windows 4th Section: Linux Command Line.
Of these sections, the 3rd is almost useless to you, 2nd should be reasonably useful, the 1st & 4th useful - but available from any book describing a linux distro.
In short - the book will be useful, but not alot more then a book describing any other debian based distro.
I know a book is a lovely reference to have - but I think one describing a particular iteration of any particular distro to be overkill. Grab yourself a general linux (or even unix) book, and use the helpful ubuntu wiki (and less helpful ubuntu forums) for kubuntu specific deviations.
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Disclaimer: I was a PC user up until a couple of months ago, when I got a powerbook.
You're still a Personal Computer user. What do you think your powerbook is? A supercomputer?
As others have pointed out, no you don't. Check "Enable disk use" in your iTunes preferences. Sync iPod. Plug into friends' computers and copy their music to your iPod as you would any other hard drive. Copy it to your iTunes and sync.
Oh right, great, thanks.
I can walk around with my iPod full of music I can listen too, or I can walk around with an iPod full of music I can copy for my friends.
Nice solution - thanks Apple. I'll stick with my third party software thanks.
WTF?
Proprietary: Owned by a private individual or corporation under a trademark or patent:
From the aac licensing faq If you want to make or listen too an AAC track, you have to pay the toll (directly or indirectly). While the license is reasonable & non disriminatory - it is most certainly a proprietary format.
*sighs*
I'm not sure if you're being deliberately obtuse or if English is not your first language....
Anyway, a little lesson for you.
How would you define "premier"?
Words by themselves have meanings, but when you use words in sentences, they gain more meaning through context.
So, saying "The premier nerd music format" is different to saying "The premier music format."
So - what we're talking about is the music format geeks, prefer, reccommend, hack around and play with.
I think that's probably mp3 (but I'm a geek who's interested in portability), the person you replied to might consider ogg to be the premier geek format (especially if they're say, games developers and don't want to pay a license fee for in game music, or any thing else that requires a cheap, open codec). Other geeks s, (like you presumably) would consider music quality the most important factor (altough most of the lossless camp are using flac or shn as far as I can tell).
Gosh!
You really argued me under the table there!
For readers who missed it - jcr thinks I don't have a point. He's not actually willing to back that up with anything other then opinion, but hey, thats good enough for me and I'm sure it will be good enough for everyone else.
Hmmmmn, well its not easy to get hard numbers on something like "preferred audio codec for nerds," but your contention that ALE is more popular with geeks then ogg is.... well I'd like to know why you think that?
Also - I just love your subtle arguing style - changing our discussion from "The Premier music format for geeks" to "The most used music format for geeks"
If you don't understand what I mean by that, consider "The premier o/s for geeks" vs "The most used o/s for geeks"
Cute.
ATMs are the MacDonalds of the banking world.
What?
The 'product' that you 'buy' at an ATM is exactly the same as what you'd get at a bank, but you get it faster.
The product you buy at MacDonalds is utter crap compared to a real restaurant, but quicker and (for some people) more convenient.
Are you sure you're not really this guy?
As long as we agree that Apple has artificially limited the iPod's capabilities in the behest of it corporate masters.
So - what do you think is the premier format?
Vorbis?
he inability to retrieve songs off the iPod as a built in feature was part of the agreement from Apple to the RIAA
Well, I'm glad you've finally come to agree with my original post At least in this case, Apple has chosen the interests of large corporations over the interests of its consumers...
The only reason that feature would exist would be to easily distribute music, illegally.
If the only music you can imagine is music it is illegal to redistrute, then I feel extemely sorry for you.
The only reason this feature exists to continue to prop up the music cartels' control of distribution.
Did you even read what the parent said?
He wasn't saying Apple should change, just that it was a dealbreaker for him - and (he contends) many other nerds - as ogg is the premier nerd music format.
You should be modded down, because this is user error... on your part. You will be prompted by iTunes which will say (paraphrased), "This iPod is synched with a different iTunes, would you like to erase this iPod and use this new iTunes to synch with?" You then have the option to click "No". If you want to grab music from othe people's iTunes, just set your iPod to manually update, and you can grab music from 100 different iTunes. If you wish to give your friends your music, just plop the actual mp3's onto your iPod as data and give it to them. Your entire beef is due to you not knowing how to use your iPod.
Perhaphs I should be modded down - but not for any of the reasons you mention.
The problem I described (a bunch of people in a room, with iPods and a computer, wondering how to pool the mp3s) is not solved by any of your methods.
As other posters have pointed out - you need third party products to do that easily.
How does this "hurt" normal consumers - realizing that 'normal' consumers are not producers of music and don't hold distribution rights to most of the music they carry on their iPods?
We have different definitions of 'normal' here. *shrug* whatever.
Also, you bolded "artificial limits". iPods don't grow on trees. Anything they do is artificial. Maybe you meant something else there?
Errr yes - everything they do is artificial. Good point.
However - I hope you're not majoring in english over at BU - artifical has meanings beyond your simplistic 'something not found in nature' definition.
Namely: Brought about or caused by sociopolitical or other human-generated forces or influences
So - the artificial limit being referred to in this case is Apple designing the iPod to impede an action that should be easy.
In Apple's case - to appease its corporate partners.
I agree with you, they're trying to encourage people to not copy their friends' music libraries.
No - you agree with the OP that Apple are deliberately imposing artificial limits on their customers - that do nothing to stop pirates and everything to hurt normal consumers.
How fashionably militant of you.
Gosh! Fashionably militant? I'm not sure what you mean, but it sounds exciting.
We are the customers. The RIAA is a cartel of suppliers.
Oh - right, thanks for clearing that up. God I was stupid for getting them the wrong way round. Or perhaps I was making a point and you're just more literal minded then the rest of the human race.
But, the vast majority of people don't have distribution rights for any of the music on their iPods.
You know - you don't have to be an audio engineer to get more then enough freely redistributable music to fill your iPod many times over.
If Apple were more interested in helping their customers, and less interested in helping RIAA / etc out, archive.org (at least) would be prominently featured in itunes.
As things stand they're not interested in promoting any msuic they can't make a few dollars on (even where it would not cost them anything and benefit their customers).
What?
I'm over at my drummer's house:
Drummer: Dude, lets get all this music together.
tpgp: I'm not sure how we can do it.
Brian Kendig: Actually, nobody wants to share music around, its as rare as people wanting to play with their toaster's heating element. tpgp, you're going to have to go back home, recopy all the files that are allready on your ipod and come back here.
Drummer: Whoa? You serious dude? Everyone likes sharing music. Why does tpgp have to go all the way across town to copy the files again? They're allready here.
The iPod's UI as a standalone device is a thing of beauty. But once you connect it to itunes things go to hell. It prevents you from doing something the vast majority of portable music player owners would like to do.
Apple is just trying to keep its suppliers happy, which leads to a better supplier-distributor relationship.
You're agreeing with me then?
I said Apple is more interested in keeping its corporate partners (or suppliers as you put) happy, then it is in keeping the people who buy & use their products happy.
cd on over to /Volumes/[The name of your iPod] and cp the files across.
That sort of solution might be OK for the linux fanboys - but this is Apple (and I would like my filenames preserved, rather then have weird ipod db names)
When I plug in an iPod that is not the one that is usually synced with iTunes, it would be trivial for Apple to offer a "Add these files to your itunes collection" option.
But they don't - because their corporate partners are more important then their customers wishes.
Unfortunately - its customer is RIAA, not us the people who buy & use their products.
I'll certainly get modded down for this, but consider this scenario:
I'm in a garage band, I've got about 1000 mp3s of clips, samples, bits of me noodling around on my guitar or keyboard, live performanaces of the band, etc. I keep them all on my ipod. The other band members have similar large collections.
We all go round to the drummer's house to have a jam, we all have our ipods with us. Now - we should be able to pool all our music together. But try doing it using iTunes - its on the verge of impossible (in fact most ipod owners are afraid to plug their ipod in to someone's computer in case all the files are delete)
At least in this case, Apple has chosen the interests of large corporations over the interests of its consumers...
The fear is of foreign intelligence applying pressure to Lenovo to equip its PCs so that the U.S. can be spied on."
Should read:
The fear is of the Chinese Trade Gap widening further
Fixed! (Its a joke for the humour impaired)
There are much better things to go after google for if you don't like them (*cough*censorhip*in*China*France*Germany*US*Unwa
The monopolization of genetic information is a serious issue - people are trying to do stupid things - like attempting to apply copy protection measures (both physical and legal) to life. Life attempts to copy itself & tradional copyright / patent laws should not apply.
Unfortunately, these awards look like shameless self-promotion rather then a serious attempt to tackle the problem.
that it never impacted the Japanese directly, as it is extremely rare for a japenese person to buy a used electronics item
You're right - it is extremely rare for the Japanese to buy second hand electronics - but there is one area pointed out by the article that is a notable exception (no not Games).
Thats music.
For many people a second hand guitar & amp is not just a cheaper solution, but a superior solution. Rightly or wrongly, many people prefer the sounds of older equipment.
doesn't really have anything to do with "Macs".
Don't be stupid. It has everything to do with "Macs" and any other unix-like operating system that runs perl & php.
Its worth knowing that that there is people attacking OS X in the wild and the vectors they are using.
Too many Mac users believe they're invlunerable & start to play around with internet facing services without adequately firewalling themselves.
Articles like this are a good reminder that any unix-like system can be made vulnerable, even if its its pretty well hardened by default.
My question is, if I choose Kubuntu, would I get anything at all out of this book?
Judging from the review:
1st Section: Linux History
2nd Section: Installing Ubuntu
3rd Section: Ubuntu Desktop / app comparison to windows
4th Section: Linux Command Line.
Of these sections, the 3rd is almost useless to you, 2nd should be reasonably useful, the 1st & 4th useful - but available from any book describing a linux distro.
In short - the book will be useful, but not alot more then a book describing any other debian based distro.
I know a book is a lovely reference to have - but I think one describing a particular iteration of any particular distro to be overkill. Grab yourself a general linux (or even unix) book, and use the helpful ubuntu wiki (and less helpful ubuntu forums) for kubuntu specific deviations.
Check out the Kubuntu Quick guide for starters...