Yo, dude, chill. I was being sarcastic and attempting humor and poking fun at platform wars over the past 20 years and how they will be just the same 10 years from now.
I don't care personally. Since I regularly use the top three platforms (windows, os x, linux) no matter who gets it first, I'll be benefiting from it.
I switch platforms more often than Clinton switches hussies. The woman I currently prefer over the others is "OS X" but that's subject to change next year because I'm an unloyal tech slut.
Maybe Microsoft has to delay it to see how Apple does it first. In the meantime Microsoft apologists will just say what a stupid bloated useless feature it is. Then 10 years from now when it's common place and someone dares say that Apple did it first, everyone else will be arguing that Apple sucks and they ripped it off from BeOS or something along those lines.
I love consistency in the tech industry. It gives me warm fuzzies.
It's hard to push sarcasm in writing. "so glad we.... " I meant to imply that we are getting ripped off. Paying the annual rate means Microsoft has less incentive to upgrade. If we went perpetual, I'd have no software upgrade costs for at least two more years.
As for XP and 2003 server rolled out everywhere, that's to all client desktops (XP) and 2003 server on all Windows servers. From talking to peers at other locations, we are way ahead of others. I'm talking big shops with thousands of PCs and dozens of servers.
True, but we would have gotten all of that with an old fashioned perpetual license. I believe the assurance plans estimated savings based on a new release (that costs money) every two years.
If there's a 5 year gap between OS releases, the finance people might start to question our decision to "take the easy way out" and go for the annual fee, which is a killer btw...
Well, I'm so glad we switched to an annual assurance type plan where we pay an annual fee which gives us the right for all upgrades at no additional cost. Now they have little incentive to bring out upgrades since they will get that revenue stream regardless, no matter what.
Actually, it might be a blessing. The pressure on IT to roll out new versions puts a real burden on us. We just got XP and 2003 server rolled out everywhere and I have a feeling we are *way* ahead of most other places.
Wow, no Putty on Mac OS X? Damn, I thought putty ran on everything. There's even a version that runs on my cell phone. No lie, http://s2putty.sourceforge.net/
I don't see how you can say Republicans are fiscally conservative. Maybe the old ones, but the new ones seem to have this crazy idea that the only way to cut government is to starve it to death through deficit spending.
Also, government is getting larger all the time, all in the name of fighting terrorism.
I'm sick of both of them, that's why I want gridlock. If any one party controls it all, government grows like hell. So I'm waiting to see what happens when election day grows closer. If it looks like republicans will keep control of congress, I'll vote for Kerry. If it looks like Democrats will regain control, I'll vote for Bush.
Pud is going to buy google. Yeah, kind of difficult now they went public, but he has the cash. He'll just throw some of the Pud babes to the dynamic duo, who will sign over their shares and control willingly.
Who is Pud? What, you never heard of fuckedcompany.com?
Proof? Here you go. Pud was in the Google offices just a few days ago...
This entire 5 year beta period and dribbling out invites is a bit maddening (mainly because I won't go begging for an invite, I prefer to just whine about it:-)
Seriously, anyone know how many people have gmail accounts now?
Let's all use BitTorrent to help Microsoft save money on their bandwidth bills. Maybe Microsoft might set up a Paypal donate button so we all can pitch in and help them out.
We all need to band together to help Microsoft. It'd be a shame and make us all suffer if they couldn't afford to pay their bandwidth bill and their ISP shut them down.
Thank you. Great response. I'm looking at about 3,500 users. I'm personally at a weird place because Microsoft practically gives it away to colleges and the other products I've found are in the range of like $25 per user, which adds up fast.
Just to throw this out, 2003 server doesn't play nice with kerberos 1.2.7 that is under RHEL 3. What makes it weirder is that it sometimes will auth with some people, and not others. So in a small test environment it will probably work well.
The problem is that windows 0003 server's kerberos server will use tcp to send out large bits of data, like allegedly when a user is a member of a lot of groups. Kerberos 1.2 only uses udp.
Kerberos 1.3 (used in Fedora) works just fine. We were able to get the Kerberos 1.3 source RPMs to compile under RHEL 3 but also had to get an updated e2fsprogs rpm and hand do a symlink for a library due to a minor version mismatch.
OK, this may not apply to you but maybe someone reading this who has their RHEL boxes auth against AD in 2000 server may benefit.
Thank you for that very informative post. We're at around 50-60,000 messages sent and received with approx 5,000 users. The biggest feature wanted is group calendaring which would make scheduling of appointments easier (finding conflicts, etc). The next big feature is syncing with PDAs. The finally, and it's always the little thing that's the trip up, being able to "drag and drop" messages into folders in the web mail client.
We currently run Horde and it lacks group calendaring and drag and drop (sigh).
Our new CTO is making noises about us possibly ditching sendmail/linux and moving to Exchange. I'd really like to hear opinions about alternatives. He swears his mind is not made up already!
Can these open-sourced alternatives be a reasonable solution?
I bought a Nokia 6600 last month. I love the thing. Email (with tls/imap), calendar for appointments, contacts, all syncing just nice over bluetooth with my Powerbook. Bought Opera web browser for it, it rocks. Even loaded putty on it (although it's painful).
There's even one of those folding keyboards with bluetooth coming out that I'd love to buy next for it.
And if that's not enough, how about all the neat Symbian programs you can buy for it, like turning it into the ultimate universal remote control
And the camera in it feeds my addiction to
mobog.com.
Anyhoo, sucker cost me $420. Someone made some coin on it.
I've owned a few PDAs including a Casio E100, E110, and a Dell Axim. Junk basically, and using imap or pop with pocket outlook is ultra painful. Too big and that resulted in me never carrying the thing. To get wireless internet access through the thing was another hassle.
This (nokia 6600 phone) puppy is just the right size for me.
Please don't forget that UK prices are inclusive of 17.5% VAT while U.S. prices are exclusive of sales taxes, that usually run from 0% to 10% depending on the state). I wouldn't be surprised if there was an import duty slapped on to the UK prices as well.
Not the full difference, but still. I can't buy a lot of Japanesse goods in the U.S for as cheap as I could in Japan with the current exchange rate either.
You're right, Microsoft wouldn't just sit there. And neither is IBM or Redhat or Novell (who are also in the business to make money). They are defending and counter-suing. Justice takes time, but FUD is instant.
SCO's plan was to get IBM to buy them out. Even the lawyer's payment terms were geared towards that. You don't see a possibility that a Microsoft customer might get sued for some bogus copyright claim with an eye towards Microsoft buying them out?
I don't see any big differences here.
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I could spin that and say since Microsoft code is not open, then it's impossible for independent groups to audit and confirm that no infringing code is in there.
In legal terms, neverassume a company will come to bat for you, or that an entity suing will pick Microsoft and not you -- especially if you look like an easier target for a win that will set some precedence for them.
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No?
Does Microsoft not hire programmers that used to work at other firms, for example? Couldn't they "accidently" contribute code from a former employer's products? Are you willing to indemnify all users of Microsoft that they are not under any legal risk for using Microsoft software if you are so sure?
Why is it even necessary to get this kind of insurance, it would be the company selling the software to me that is liable, not myself unless I decide to redistribute it, and even then...
Well, anyone can sue anyone for any reason, so there are risks for just existing. Any larger company has a legal department and a legal budget as it is.
My point is, there's nothing to stop some small software maker in Australia from claiming that a technology inside Microsoft SQL server violates their patent or copyright and threaten to sue end users of SQL server (which I seem to recall actually did happen).
Risks are everywhere. Please stop supporting the myth that using Linux is extra risky.
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I don't care personally. Since I regularly use the top three platforms (windows, os x, linux) no matter who gets it first, I'll be benefiting from it.
I switch platforms more often than Clinton switches hussies. The woman I currently prefer over the others is "OS X" but that's subject to change next year because I'm an unloyal tech slut.
I love consistency in the tech industry. It gives me warm fuzzies.
As for XP and 2003 server rolled out everywhere, that's to all client desktops (XP) and 2003 server on all Windows servers. From talking to peers at other locations, we are way ahead of others. I'm talking big shops with thousands of PCs and dozens of servers.
If there's a 5 year gap between OS releases, the finance people might start to question our decision to "take the easy way out" and go for the annual fee, which is a killer btw...
Actually, it might be a blessing. The pressure on IT to roll out new versions puts a real burden on us. We just got XP and 2003 server rolled out everywhere and I have a feeling we are *way* ahead of most other places.
Wow, no Putty on Mac OS X? Damn, I thought putty ran on everything. There's even a version that runs on my cell phone. No lie, http://s2putty.sourceforge.net/
OK, if you were an alien, where would you land? Somehow anywhere in the United States seems to be not a very bright idea. Stupid Roswell aliens...
Also, government is getting larger all the time, all in the name of fighting terrorism.
I'm sick of both of them, that's why I want gridlock. If any one party controls it all, government grows like hell. So I'm waiting to see what happens when election day grows closer. If it looks like republicans will keep control of congress, I'll vote for Kerry. If it looks like Democrats will regain control, I'll vote for Bush.
Government works best when it's not working.
Proof? Here you go. Pud was in the Google offices just a few days ago...
I guess I don't know the right people.
This entire 5 year beta period and dribbling out invites is a bit maddening (mainly because I won't go begging for an invite, I prefer to just whine about it :-)
Seriously, anyone know how many people have gmail accounts now?
Didn't know what it's about when I posted, but it looks like it's only about the firewall. Oh well.
Control Panel -> Add/Remove Programs -> Windows Components -> Networking Services -> Peer-to-Peer "Enable Peer-to-Peer Networking Services."
We all need to band together to help Microsoft. It'd be a shame and make us all suffer if they couldn't afford to pay their bandwidth bill and their ISP shut them down.
Thank you. Great response. I'm looking at about 3,500 users. I'm personally at a weird place because Microsoft practically gives it away to colleges and the other products I've found are in the range of like $25 per user, which adds up fast.
However, another person who replied to you points to a kb article that says it is a problem under 2000 server.
Maybe I was just lucky.
Mass adding users is common in educational institutions at the beginning of a term. Scary that it might have problems...
The problem is that windows 0003 server's kerberos server will use tcp to send out large bits of data, like allegedly when a user is a member of a lot of groups. Kerberos 1.2 only uses udp.
Kerberos 1.3 (used in Fedora) works just fine. We were able to get the Kerberos 1.3 source RPMs to compile under RHEL 3 but also had to get an updated e2fsprogs rpm and hand do a symlink for a library due to a minor version mismatch.
OK, this may not apply to you but maybe someone reading this who has their RHEL boxes auth against AD in 2000 server may benefit.
We currently run Horde and it lacks group calendaring and drag and drop (sigh).
Can these open-sourced alternatives be a reasonable solution?
There's even one of those folding keyboards with bluetooth coming out that I'd love to buy next for it.
And if that's not enough, how about all the neat Symbian programs you can buy for it, like turning it into the ultimate universal remote control
And the camera in it feeds my addiction to mobog.com.
Anyhoo, sucker cost me $420. Someone made some coin on it.
I've owned a few PDAs including a Casio E100, E110, and a Dell Axim. Junk basically, and using imap or pop with pocket outlook is ultra painful. Too big and that resulted in me never carrying the thing. To get wireless internet access through the thing was another hassle.
This (nokia 6600 phone) puppy is just the right size for me.
Not the full difference, but still. I can't buy a lot of Japanesse goods in the U.S for as cheap as I could in Japan with the current exchange rate either.
Here's a clickable link to that article.
SCO's plan was to get IBM to buy them out. Even the lawyer's payment terms were geared towards that. You don't see a possibility that a Microsoft customer might get sued for some bogus copyright claim with an eye towards Microsoft buying them out?
I don't see any big differences here.
In legal terms, never assume a company will come to bat for you, or that an entity suing will pick Microsoft and not you -- especially if you look like an easier target for a win that will set some precedence for them.
Does Microsoft not hire programmers that used to work at other firms, for example? Couldn't they "accidently" contribute code from a former employer's products? Are you willing to indemnify all users of Microsoft that they are not under any legal risk for using Microsoft software if you are so sure?
Well, anyone can sue anyone for any reason, so there are risks for just existing. Any larger company has a legal department and a legal budget as it is.
My point is, there's nothing to stop some small software maker in Australia from claiming that a technology inside Microsoft SQL server violates their patent or copyright and threaten to sue end users of SQL server (which I seem to recall actually did happen).
Risks are everywhere. Please stop supporting the myth that using Linux is extra risky.