That just prooves how useless the recording industry has become, their only purpose in life is to drive arogent rich people to studios and back to their hotels and then to hype what ever they sing, The internet is a million times better at that job, even one big website could handle most major musicians. There would be no middle-man to take profits and anyone that the public actually liked would be spread by word of mouth and would have packed concerts. You could even order the limo online - total job redundancy to the RIAA.
There are afew such websites around i think but no major (as in RIAA mainstream) musicians are involved so its shadowed by the big guns, and because most RIAA musicians are in it #1 for the money (people dont dream of being famous on some website they dream of being on every tv and having shit loads of cash, i know i do). Interesting things have a habit of spreading around the internet quickly (memepool), ie. people are always sending eachother links to the latest flash game that lets you slap bush etc, and interesting things could easily include music so if you did start a band and produced music that everyone liked whats to say you couldnt make it big in afew weeks just through word of mouth and email?
chief among them being the establishment of specific school policies
to do what? say its against the rules to bully? is txt message bullying somehow not covered under the policy "be nice to people", sounds like the ranting of a lazy management "erm yes lets have a meeting and create some more policies"
The DMCA is a law that makes circumvention of a Copy-protection device illigal, now the entire point of a copy-protection device is to stop people copying something, thats its whole purpose. if there is any way that someone can copy something then the copy-protection device has completely failed its one and only job in life, so for a company to sue someone under the DMCA is to admit that their product is completely useless but that they should still be able to sell this totally useless product, make money off it, and make money from someone else just for realising that its useless.
Now seriously, and not trolling or trying to be funny, one of statements below must be absolutely true by pure logic:
Who ever came up with this law was either: a) Bribed. b) Incompetent. c) High.
Critics of the DMCA believe the lawsuit was an abuse of the DMCA, used to trample the competition
I thought the whole point of the DMCA was to trample competition? This case is meaningless, the whole law abolished is what we want.
The laws purpose is to basically give companies a tool that allows them to produce shabby token security and use law to cover the rest, its like producing a very very bad lock and saying "its ok, its just a token lock, if anyone does break in we'll sue them". You might as well just go the whole way and not make the lock at all and then just sue people if they push the door open or copy the cd or whatever it is.
These things are pretty old but i think they are doomed to corporate events at most - mobile phones will assimilate this in no time with bluetooth/wifi etc its just a software download. Then it will all start to expand with mobile filesharing etc (hm more memory or a laptop required) and the best part is the RIAA will be stumpted over this for a while. Its one thing calling an ISP and threatening them but people wont as readily accept arrests on the streets until the RIAA spins it and makes it seem like it has something to do with terrorism. Remember folks dont talk to strangers and share files unless your an unamerican scumbag terrorist!
Already most phones around have some sort of wireless (apart from the main one d'uh) support so this could take off because in the end phones are just another bit of hardware we can take advantage of with software.
I had no-rules net access in my room at 13 and it turned out ok.
If kids are going to do something bad then im pretty sure its because somethings wrong inside with their life - be it somesort of anger against something, lonelyness, bullying, not feeling accepted etc. Peer-pressure and having to conform throughout school is probably a much bigger deal than anything the internet can throw at you. If they are gonna do drugs, joy riding, shop-lifting, gang warfare, shooting up their school or any of the other things you probably want to avoid then they will do them with or without the internet (If you're scared they are looking at porn - they have been, yes they lied, no they wont stop, the best thing you can do is help them find a girlfriend;).
Oh and the ammount of money they will save on CDs & DVDs will make everyone happy.
In short i would give them net access with no rules, but wait until you think they know everything they are going to find already (which is pretty early) and it wont be a big deal, they will feel more trusted and mature which is usually a good thing unless they have already started the car-jacking in which case you should cry.
Its actually a very difficult area of computing, far more complex than designing deep space probe software, 3d graphics engines and nuclear simulations, we're talking here about counting how many people vote for one person!
"I think they're doing a great disservice to democracy," she said. "They're telling the public: Don't trust them, don't trust the voting equipment."
Sounds like the sort of thing dictators say when making an example out of someone eg. "he's an enemy of the people, he would kill your baby in the blink of an eye, would you actually trust a man like this that kills babys?" Then again there was the whole communist thing "hes a commie burn him" and the un-american thing "you are an un-american and im gonna call the FBI on you"
Linda Lamone either has no-idea about electronic voting, or has another agenda.
Actually i just realised shes right but shes using the redifined term for democracy which means "the most money wins" in which case its bad that the machines cant be controlled buy the most affluent people
This doesnt change anything, people don't just pay iTunes because they have no other choice - they pay because they are scared to shit for the RIAA breaking down their door and smashing their heads into the computer screen. Oh and some might be paying because they want to. But the point is even though iTunes made a stupid mistake, pay sites are still here and people can continue to pay so everyone is a happy little bunny.
If your responsible for someone else hijacking your computer then Microsoft is responsible for VB virii in outlook and every other securit hole they've left open. Now wheres my cheque?
Is this not corruption? that has to be the biggest understatement of the year, why arnt their riots in the streets? why has no-one used their founding-father given right to bare arms and march against the government, every day i see Bush doing this, Bush doing that, filesharers face jail time, people who burn flags face jail time, people who talk about rot-13 face jail time, 12-year olds face fines and maybe later jail time, tabacco companies lobby the government so that lighters dont get banned on planes, evoting companies which couldnt even design a system to count chickens,big politicians with alterior motives - enron etc i thought America was supposed to be a country where people took no bullshit and stood up for themselves, hell they kicked us out, whats going on?
Hi, i'm sherif john bunnel, and tonight, we're gonna show you, [SMASH] what happens, [WACK] when criminals, [BANG] break the law! Comming up: How a violent homocidal pedophile is finally caught and given a speeding ticket. What happens when drunken teenagers get behind the wheel. And the car theif that just couldnt say no to a 3 month relaxed probation deal.
But first: Orange County Florida, and police are about to raid a known file sharer, but suddenly little Jonny Doe tries to outsmart law enforcement officers by dropping his files in the recycle bin.
Law enforcers act quickly to secure the machine "DROP THE MOUSE DROP THE MOUSE" the outlaw fails to comply. Shots are fired and the teenager is down.
"I had entered the room and i saw him in the corner with a mouse in his hand, we are trained to just shoot if we see a mouse because we cant afford to take risks, if there was a hostage in the room we couldnt take the risk that they may view copyrighted material."
Thats one kid that will learn, that when you play with computers, with no regard for the law, you can expect the cold end, of an officers gun!
At last im fed up with fucking lazy directors who think they can get away with "adaptations" and "remakes" micheal caine should sue the ass off the people who remade Italian Job and the same goes for Texas Chainsaw Masacre and all the other un-original films out there. As for downloaders they should get a life and go do something less criminal like car-jacking or mugging, hell even shop-lifting the DVD is better!
Ok if we're gonna have the DMCA anyone who plans to use it to protect their product must warn the customer with a FULL EULA that cant be on a computer screen. The customer must sign it to buy a CD or camera or anything else that can be hacked at a violation of the DMCA and it must clearly state the rules and what will happen if they break them. The product itself should also carry labels - TVs for example often have "Warning, do not open, no user servicable parts inside" and "This device conforms to FCC/some other agency guidlines" and something similar needs to be done for the DMCA eg "Warning, removing the data from this camera is a criminal offence and may carry upto 5 years jail time" etc. Im sure if theres enough rallying you could get a law in for this then everyone will be fully aware of the DMCA and demand that its abolished *COUGH* i mean i just want people to be aware of the law so they know their rights and wont break the law and if that means the cashier hands them a 5 page legal document with "CRIMINAL OFFENCE" in 24pt bold on it every time they buy a CD, DVD, disposable camera, DVD player etc then thats what needs to be done;)
I just hope that downloading the pictures violates the DMCA or this whole post is OT:P
I reckon we setup a blacklist for companies that give out threats - if you try and sue us for helping you then you go on the list, unless you send a swift apology or it was a clerical error that resulted in a DMCA threat being sent and it gets withdrawn. Anyone on this blacklist gets no help from geeks, if you find a security hole in one of their products you dont tell them. Then companies that are nice and appriciate people pointing out their bug will get help and companies that dont will get none. I would say post their bugs on the net but that would be kind of childish.. ah fuck it, post them anyway;)
Oh we have privatisation thats supposed to be the next best thing to jesus coming down and giving us 2000 years worth of un-paid taxes. Terrorists dont need to bring London to a stand-still, cost cutting maintenance contractors do it already;)
Hey we'll send a team in and take down your bush and big business bosses if you will send a team to take out blair and fix the trains?:)
Don't want to be a kill-joy but the direction new transportation devices is going in is "pick the most artistic looking but technically lacking design which will have the worst stability, centers of gravity etc etc and rely on a computer to keep it up-right." Should we be relying on a complex system to do so much? If a wheel falls off your car you have a hope in hell of getting it safely off the road and stopped but if something happens on one of these new fangled things and the technology dies you could have problems unless there are mechanical backups. In the future people could be running around with EMP devices or microwave magnatrons or even just VB scripts! do you want to risk it?? think of the childeren!
Ah the Matrix suddenly makes sense - people here are used to make money while those in the matrix are used for energy. We are blinded by their artificial rules and their tv shows but some of us have not accepted them and have broken away to the internet (Zion) where we fileshare and dodge DRM. But they have begun an attack on us with law-suits and more DRM. There is one man, a lawyer who is destined to defeat the industry with law, only he can save us. But wait, he sold out because his wife said "take the money from the producers and stop hanging out with these loosers" and now we are doomed to destruction. The agents were computer virus DRM programs designed by the RIAA to destroy unlicensed files, but they got corrupted and now spread and spread without stopping until they have destroyed every file. Oh and the lawyer is no above the law and his RIAA-given powers give him the ability to arrest anyone he pleases, even outside of the RIAA's domain.
..and expect people to forward it on. I think i see where the technology is going here they who are almighty and are in the business of content production purely because they are the best (proven by all the wonderful and original and totally not remade/remixed/sequel films, music and tv shows out there) will broadcast data through the airwaves to anyone in range, but demand that we do with it what they say. If you dont like what happens when you transmit stuff to millions of people then dont do it, see how much we care.
To the RIAA/MPAA/TV-studios/Entertainment Industry:
Fuck off, we dont give a shit about your bull. You either accept our terms and conditions as the customer or you fuck off and we do it ourselves. We don't need your cheap pushed remixed re-covered music, your formula action movies, your pathetic remakes and your hyped up crap because every year the technological divide between having a state of the art film/tv/music studio gets smaller and computing power gets cheaper. Millions of people around the world have ideas that they want to create and share and the technology for them to do it and for anyone to become a producer is closing in and theres nothing that you can do about it. we are really getting pissed off at you and your crack sniffing and your pretentious billion dollar demanding actors and singers. Don't fuck with our technology and don't tell us what we can and cant do.
PS
Please make more X-Files, we want Anderson and Duchovny
There was a program about banned adverts on the other week (no G5 wasnt on it). They showed how the tabaco industry went from do-what-ever-you-want to pretty much having to say "dont smoke, but if you do you might try these cigarettes but remember dont smoke" to eventually being banned from advertising altogether. At the moment all cigarette packets have massive "SMOKING DAMAGES HEALTH" warnings in about 18pt bold. Personally i have no problem with this i dont see it as censorship i see it as saying fuck you to the big bad drug dealing companies which atleast makes me feel safe knowing that the tabaco companies dont ow3n the government unlike some *cough* not putting matches and lighters on banned items on planes list *cough*
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That just prooves how useless the recording industry has become, their only purpose in life is to drive arogent rich people to studios and back to their hotels and then to hype what ever they sing, The internet is a million times better at that job, even one big website could handle most major musicians. There would be no middle-man to take profits and anyone that the public actually liked would be spread by word of mouth and would have packed concerts. You could even order the limo online - total job redundancy to the RIAA.
There are afew such websites around i think but no major (as in RIAA mainstream) musicians are involved so its shadowed by the big guns, and because most RIAA musicians are in it #1 for the money (people dont dream of being famous on some website they dream of being on every tv and having shit loads of cash, i know i do). Interesting things have a habit of spreading around the internet quickly (memepool), ie. people are always sending eachother links to the latest flash game that lets you slap bush etc, and interesting things could easily include music so if you did start a band and produced music that everyone liked whats to say you couldnt make it big in afew weeks just through word of mouth and email?
chief among them being the establishment of specific school policies
to do what? say its against the rules to bully? is txt message bullying somehow not covered under the policy "be nice to people", sounds like the ranting of a lazy management "erm yes lets have a meeting and create some more policies"
The DMCA is a law that makes circumvention of a Copy-protection device illigal, now the entire point of a copy-protection device is to stop people copying something, thats its whole purpose. if there is any way that someone can copy something then the copy-protection device has completely failed its one and only job in life, so for a company to sue someone under the DMCA is to admit that their product is completely useless but that they should still be able to sell this totally useless product, make money off it, and make money from someone else just for realising that its useless.
Now seriously, and not trolling or trying to be funny, one of statements below must be absolutely true by pure logic:
Who ever came up with this law was either:
a) Bribed.
b) Incompetent.
c) High.
The music industry says that ISP employees will be targeted in the future, but given an amnesty if they "inform the music industry."
Theo says: I will forgive anyone for working in the music industry as long as they bend over and let me kick their ass.
Critics of the DMCA believe the lawsuit was an abuse of the DMCA, used to trample the competition
I thought the whole point of the DMCA was to trample competition? This case is meaningless, the whole law abolished is what we want.
The laws purpose is to basically give companies a tool that allows them to produce shabby token security and use law to cover the rest, its like producing a very very bad lock and saying "its ok, its just a token lock, if anyone does break in we'll sue them". You might as well just go the whole way and not make the lock at all and then just sue people if they push the door open or copy the cd or whatever it is.
These things are pretty old but i think they are doomed to corporate events at most - mobile phones will assimilate this in no time with bluetooth/wifi etc its just a software download. Then it will all start to expand with mobile filesharing etc (hm more memory or a laptop required) and the best part is the RIAA will be stumpted over this for a while. Its one thing calling an ISP and threatening them but people wont as readily accept arrests on the streets until the RIAA spins it and makes it seem like it has something to do with terrorism. Remember folks dont talk to strangers and share files unless your an unamerican scumbag terrorist!
Already most phones around have some sort of wireless (apart from the main one d'uh) support so this could take off because in the end phones are just another bit of hardware we can take advantage of with software.
I had no-rules net access in my room at 13 and it turned out ok.
If kids are going to do something bad then im pretty sure its because somethings wrong inside with their life - be it somesort of anger against something, lonelyness, bullying, not feeling accepted etc. Peer-pressure and having to conform throughout school is probably a much bigger deal than anything the internet can throw at you. If they are gonna do drugs, joy riding, shop-lifting, gang warfare, shooting up their school or any of the other things you probably want to avoid then they will do them with or without the internet (If you're scared they are looking at porn - they have been, yes they lied, no they wont stop, the best thing you can do is help them find a girlfriend;).
Oh and the ammount of money they will save on CDs & DVDs will make everyone happy.
In short i would give them net access with no rules, but wait until you think they know everything they are going to find already (which is pretty early) and it wont be a big deal, they will feel more trusted and mature which is usually a good thing unless they have already started the car-jacking in which case you should cry.
Its actually a very difficult area of computing, far more complex than designing deep space probe software, 3d graphics engines and nuclear simulations, we're talking here about counting how many people vote for one person!
"I think they're doing a great disservice to democracy," she said. "They're telling the public: Don't trust them, don't trust the voting equipment."
Sounds like the sort of thing dictators say when making an example out of someone eg. "he's an enemy of the people, he would kill your baby in the blink of an eye, would you actually trust a man like this that kills babys?" Then again there was the whole communist thing "hes a commie burn him" and the un-american thing "you are an un-american and im gonna call the FBI on you"
Linda Lamone either has no-idea about electronic voting, or has another agenda.
Actually i just realised shes right but shes using the redifined term for democracy which means "the most money wins" in which case its bad that the machines cant be controlled buy the most affluent people
I feel sorry for this guy, i hope hes hidden himself well or hes out of a crappy DMCA country.
This doesnt change anything, people don't just pay iTunes because they have no other choice - they pay because they are scared to shit for the RIAA breaking down their door and smashing their heads into the computer screen. Oh and some might be paying because they want to. But the point is even though iTunes made a stupid mistake, pay sites are still here and people can continue to pay so everyone is a happy little bunny.
If your responsible for someone else hijacking your computer then Microsoft is responsible for VB virii in outlook and every other securit hole they've left open. Now wheres my cheque?
Isnt that for allowing hunters to cut off and stuff bears arms? Or is it to allow patients to be transplanted with bears arms in an emergency?
Is this not corruption? that has to be the biggest understatement of the year, why arnt their riots in the streets? why has no-one used their founding-father given right to bare arms and march against the government, every day i see Bush doing this, Bush doing that, filesharers face jail time, people who burn flags face jail time, people who talk about rot-13 face jail time, 12-year olds face fines and maybe later jail time, tabacco companies lobby the government so that lighters dont get banned on planes, evoting companies which couldnt even design a system to count chickens,big politicians with alterior motives - enron etc i thought America was supposed to be a country where people took no bullshit and stood up for themselves, hell they kicked us out, whats going on?
Hi, i'm sherif john bunnel, and tonight, we're gonna show you, [SMASH] what happens, [WACK] when criminals, [BANG] break the law! Comming up: How a violent homocidal pedophile is finally caught and given a speeding ticket.
What happens when drunken teenagers get behind the wheel.
And the car theif that just couldnt say no to a 3 month relaxed probation deal.
But first:
Orange County Florida, and police are about to raid a known file sharer, but suddenly little Jonny Doe tries to outsmart law enforcement officers by dropping his files in the recycle bin.
Law enforcers act quickly to secure the machine "DROP THE MOUSE DROP THE MOUSE" the outlaw fails to comply. Shots are fired and the teenager is down.
"I had entered the room and i saw him in the corner with a mouse in his hand, we are trained to just shoot if we see a mouse because we cant afford to take risks, if there was a hostage in the room we couldnt take the risk that they may view copyrighted material."
Thats one kid that will learn, that when you play with computers, with no regard for the law, you can expect the cold end, of an officers gun!
At last im fed up with fucking lazy directors who think they can get away with "adaptations" and "remakes" micheal caine should sue the ass off the people who remade Italian Job and the same goes for Texas Chainsaw Masacre and all the other un-original films out there. As for downloaders they should get a life and go do something less criminal like car-jacking or mugging, hell even shop-lifting the DVD is better!
Ok if we're gonna have the DMCA anyone who plans to use it to protect their product must warn the customer with a FULL EULA that cant be on a computer screen. The customer must sign it to buy a CD or camera or anything else that can be hacked at a violation of the DMCA and it must clearly state the rules and what will happen if they break them. The product itself should also carry labels - TVs for example often have "Warning, do not open, no user servicable parts inside" and "This device conforms to FCC/some other agency guidlines" and something similar needs to be done for the DMCA eg "Warning, removing the data from this camera is a criminal offence and may carry upto 5 years jail time" etc. Im sure if theres enough rallying you could get a law in for this then everyone will be fully aware of the DMCA and demand that its abolished *COUGH* i mean i just want people to be aware of the law so they know their rights and wont break the law and if that means the cashier hands them a 5 page legal document with "CRIMINAL OFFENCE" in 24pt bold on it every time they buy a CD, DVD, disposable camera, DVD player etc then thats what needs to be done ;)
:P
I just hope that downloading the pictures violates the DMCA or this whole post is OT
I reckon we setup a blacklist for companies that give out threats - if you try and sue us for helping you then you go on the list, unless you send a swift apology or it was a clerical error that resulted in a DMCA threat being sent and it gets withdrawn. Anyone on this blacklist gets no help from geeks, if you find a security hole in one of their products you dont tell them. Then companies that are nice and appriciate people pointing out their bug will get help and companies that dont will get none. I would say post their bugs on the net but that would be kind of childish.. ah fuck it, post them anyway ;)
They probably bricked it up behind their nuclear facility.
Oh we have privatisation thats supposed to be the next best thing to jesus coming down and giving us 2000 years worth of un-paid taxes. Terrorists dont need to bring London to a stand-still, cost cutting maintenance contractors do it already ;)
:)
Hey we'll send a team in and take down your bush and big business bosses if you will send a team to take out blair and fix the trains?
Don't want to be a kill-joy but the direction new transportation devices is going in is "pick the most artistic looking but technically lacking design which will have the worst stability, centers of gravity etc etc and rely on a computer to keep it up-right." Should we be relying on a complex system to do so much? If a wheel falls off your car you have a hope in hell of getting it safely off the road and stopped but if something happens on one of these new fangled things and the technology dies you could have problems unless there are mechanical backups. In the future people could be running around with EMP devices or microwave magnatrons or even just VB scripts! do you want to risk it?? think of the childeren!
Ah the Matrix suddenly makes sense - people here are used to make money while those in the matrix are used for energy. We are blinded by their artificial rules and their tv shows but some of us have not accepted them and have broken away to the internet (Zion) where we fileshare and dodge DRM. But they have begun an attack on us with law-suits and more DRM. There is one man, a lawyer who is destined to defeat the industry with law, only he can save us. But wait, he sold out because his wife said "take the money from the producers and stop hanging out with these loosers" and now we are doomed to destruction. The agents were computer virus DRM programs designed by the RIAA to destroy unlicensed files, but they got corrupted and now spread and spread without stopping until they have destroyed every file. Oh and the lawyer is no above the law and his RIAA-given powers give him the ability to arrest anyone he pleases, even outside of the RIAA's domain.
..and expect people to forward it on. I think i see where the technology is going here they who are almighty and are in the business of content production purely because they are the best (proven by all the wonderful and original and totally not remade/remixed/sequel films, music and tv shows out there) will broadcast data through the airwaves to anyone in range, but demand that we do with it what they say. If you dont like what happens when you transmit stuff to millions of people then dont do it, see how much we care.
To the RIAA/MPAA/TV-studios/Entertainment Industry:
Fuck off, we dont give a shit about your bull. You either accept our terms and conditions as the customer or you fuck off and we do it ourselves. We don't need your cheap pushed remixed re-covered music, your formula action movies, your pathetic remakes and your hyped up crap because every year the technological divide between having a state of the art film/tv/music studio gets smaller and computing power gets cheaper. Millions of people around the world have ideas that they want to create and share and the technology for them to do it and for anyone to become a producer is closing in and theres nothing that you can do about it. we are really getting pissed off at you and your crack sniffing and your pretentious billion dollar demanding actors and singers. Don't fuck with our technology and don't tell us what we can and cant do.
PS
Please make more X-Files, we want Anderson and Duchovny
There was a program about banned adverts on the other week (no G5 wasnt on it). They showed how the tabaco industry went from do-what-ever-you-want to pretty much having to say "dont smoke, but if you do you might try these cigarettes but remember dont smoke" to eventually being banned from advertising altogether. At the moment all cigarette packets have massive "SMOKING DAMAGES HEALTH" warnings in about 18pt bold. Personally i have no problem with this i dont see it as censorship i see it as saying fuck you to the big bad drug dealing companies which atleast makes me feel safe knowing that the tabaco companies dont ow3n the government unlike some *cough* not putting matches and lighters on banned items on planes list *cough*