Anyway, it has little to do with the Oracle culture or Larry's interpersonal skills, and everything with priorities and timing why CRM wasn't a big focus for Oracle 10 years ago but is now.
Fair nuff, but Peoplesoft cost $10b and Siebel $5.8b. The question is, it just cost Oracle nearly $16b to buy their CRM position. If they had been a bit more, say, Googly in their culture, could they have built it internally for somewhat less?
Or was it worth it for Oracle to be hardcharging and cutthroat to be able to pay $16b for that position after the dust cleared, and to have thrown off ambitious and/or disgruntled people with the gumption and 'vision' to build this stuff: would it have been created if Oracle _hadn't_ been the way it was/is?
Either way, something to think about IMHO.
How big an asshole Ellison has to be...
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.. Did anyone else notice that all these CRM companies seem to be founded and/or run by ex-Oracle people?
What kind of $$$ would Oracle have saved if their culture had enabled CRM apps to be developed inhouse instead of having Oracle people quit and go out on their own?
(Or was the push out of Oracle necessary to do CRM in the first place?)
I think it's too early to tell whether the phone is a failure or not.
No it isn't.. The phone is a yawner, though I grant that for the price it's probably the best MP3 playing phone available.
Decent smartphones can already play MP3s in stereo. The original article is right, Apple's as much a prisoner of its success (and of its partners' business models) as it is a beneficiary.
Thanks to the law of conservation of energy, we can be pretty sure, never having seen said small white equipment, aforesaid device cannot power your typical car speakers to anything anybody would consider "loud".
Most americans?!?!? Where did you get that from? $ test `echo Lots` == `echo Most` $ echo $? 1
Im in an office full of ladies, and I live in South CA, where a woman working is a requirment unless you got a rich family. Stay-at home moms are snickered at, and there are always jokes around the office about the "barefoot and pregnant woman".
America is not South CA, or NYC, or Berserkely. Or rather, they fall within the scope of America, but they are not definitive. There's plenty of places in the US where a single income will cover a family. It may not be a glamorous, gadget-filled or particular noteworthy lifestyle, but it's doable, and to many, it's preferable.
Again, it comes down to a 'life choice'. I _choose_ to live in a high-tax state with such a high cost-of-living that it takes 2 incomes to raise a family. Someone else _chooses_ to live in Alaska, or Texas, or New Hampshire, where there's lower taxes and a single-worker family can survive. Someone else _chooses_ to live in MA so they can marry their same-sex partner. These are individuals doing what they want with their lives, or choosing to pursue a lifestyle and being responsible for everything else that goes with it.
..have less to do with storing it (although this would seem promising) than with the energy required to produce it in a usable form for motor vehicles.
By makeing a Eurocentric judgement on "morality", you are maknig out your culture to be superior!
It is.
But if you had some sort of understanding of their culture, you may find that a good chunk of that 50% of women would agree that a woman shouldnt be off running around in college with boys(thats immorral), but should learn how to be a woman at home, and bear children(moral). how chauvanist!
That's a choice. Lots of Americans like the idea of keepin' the little lady home cooking and cleaning. However, in America, this is a (to quote Cartman) "life choice". Not being able to choose? That is the mark of an inferior culture.
An inferior culture shoots people in the back when they try to flee to a superior culture.
I would say that China is a hypocritical exception on our part. (Communist cuba, no cigar) There are many totalitarian countries that we do NOT do business with, but China is too large( and too lucritive ) to ignore.
It is hypocritical, but one goes to diplomacy with the world one has, not with the world one wants.
Yeah, I'm sure there's legitimate arguments against it, but it satisfies a sense of fair play that is positively limbic.
OTOH, there should be support for a MySQL-style multi-license scheme, where GPL'd code gets free use of patents and non-GPL'd code must pay for licenses.
... Stuff like this doesn't get funded, because the last time there was this level of oil pricing, lots of alternative sources got funded, and then oil got cheap again and destroyed all that invested capital.
How about this: have the fedgov put a floor on the price of oil, say $45/bbl. It would make no difference now, obviously, but it would serve to protect investments into alternate energy sources. If the price of oil goes below that level, use the tax money generated to offset stuff like highways, income taxes, etc.
Not so much confusing as retargeting emphasis: The KDE/Qt frameworks and other infrastructure elements are what would be comparable with Quartz, while the actual apps and themes are comparable to Aqua.
I just think that for the end user, the important stuff relates to the KDE/Aqua side, not the Qt/Quartz side, and if your goal is to scratch an itch you don't care, but if your goal is to get linux desktop to the masses it's time to care.
For me, fundamentally, I suppose the quartz vs. X is just not terribly interesting in comparison to KDE/GNOME vs. XP. I guess it was just a lukewarm attempt to hijack the thread;)
Perhaps my terminal optimism is sweetly naive, but I sincerely hope and expect X to go from being "just-about-ok" now to leaving Mac OX smoking dead in the dust in the next few years.
Never happen.
Oh, X as a protocol/platform may conceivably support Quartz functionality and beyond (Display SVG?), but in terms of the interface, I don't see any free WM in the same ballpark as OSX in terms of usability. KDE comes closest to quartz in theory (frameworks, OO, DCOP, KParts), but there is still only a nascent appreciation of the value of usability there. KDE suffers from the most stereotypical problem of OSS development: great tools and frameworks, and spotty/inconsistent/crappy usability. And I still think KDE is the best open WM/env out there! I use it daily and like the good stuff, but the bad stuff is like a sore zit that keeps getting rubbed, and I wish I could pop it...
I still feel it comes down to giving usability geeks the pimp hand when it comes to releases. Usability bugs need to be first-class citizens in the desktop world. And at a minimum everything everyone else can do must be supported, whether it's clean or orthogonal or not. Make it optional if it offends your sensibilities, but people expect to be able to do stuff like (for example) filter IMAP on the client side for a multitude of reasons.
Lets hear it for profitting from death and destruction!
Considering what technologies war and defense spending have given us, not least among which being the protocols that we use to submit nonsense to slashdot, here's what I say..
3 cheers for death and destruction!
Re:what the hell is all this attacking Google ....
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Probably because their HR department has rubbed a bunch of techies the wrong way. Having to wait 6+ months for a response (if you're lucky) on a _solicited_ resume, then being prompted to take phone tests _after_ you've landed a job that has better pay. That, coupled with the company's opacity, could understandably damage their reputation amongst the traditionally hypercommunicative hacker community and OSS folks. Good guys aren't supposed to be that secretive.
Also, word on the street is that the 20% of 'personal research' time is now essentially added onto a standard work week, thus driving the hours on the job up, which smacks of a growing sweatshopization (but which may also be a symptom of bad HR).
OTOH, of the folks I know there, all seem to be pretty happy, so it could all just be sour grapes and bullshit. Still, hubris is something to actively, constantly thwart.
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Better wear your spacesuit, as your blood would instantly depressure-boil, among other gruesome things...
Dihydrogen Monoxide can kill you.
Won't anyone please think about the children?
Colecovision.
And it wasn't as clunky as you'd think, though the Super Action Controller was _MUCH_ better.
I can't believe people are so dumb....
I can.
The question is, of course, how much money can you take away from them before they notice?
Then again, I believe strongly in the discrimination against and exploitation of the stupid and/or lazy.
.. and my heart warms for HP. I can't help it, it's limbic.
Anyway, it has little to do with the Oracle culture or Larry's interpersonal skills, and everything with priorities and timing why CRM wasn't a big focus for Oracle 10 years ago but is now.
Fair nuff, but Peoplesoft cost $10b and Siebel $5.8b. The question is, it just cost Oracle nearly $16b to buy their CRM position. If they had been a bit more, say, Googly in their culture, could they have built it internally for somewhat less?
Or was it worth it for Oracle to be hardcharging and cutthroat to be able to pay $16b for that position after the dust cleared, and to have thrown off ambitious and/or disgruntled people with the gumption and 'vision' to build this stuff: would it have been created if Oracle _hadn't_ been the way it was/is?
Either way, something to think about IMHO.
.. Did anyone else notice that all these CRM companies seem to be founded and/or run by ex-Oracle people?
What kind of $$$ would Oracle have saved if their culture had enabled CRM apps to be developed inhouse instead of having Oracle people quit and go out on their own?
(Or was the push out of Oracle necessary to do CRM in the first place?)
... When Google partners with Wal-Mart to install APs on their stores.
Now, here's the kind of 'dupe' I like: a followup.
I think it's too early to tell whether the phone is a failure or not.
No it isn't.. The phone is a yawner, though I grant that for the price it's probably the best MP3 playing phone available.
Decent smartphones can already play MP3s in stereo. The original article is right, Apple's as much a prisoner of its success (and of its partners' business models) as it is a beneficiary.
This is heelarious. I suppose they're splintering into so many distros to compete with Linux?
MS is flailing. And it's almost as sad as it is entertaining to watch.
.. Perhaps offshoring plants like this and using them to generate hydrogen + power?
Eeentaresting...
.. and Pete falls off.
Who's left?
Thanks to the law of conservation of energy, we can be pretty sure, never having seen said small white equipment, aforesaid device cannot power your typical car speakers to anything anybody would consider "loud".
Preamp?
.. Man, my P800 phone came with a stereo headset and mp3 capability like what, 3 years ago?
That phone looks like junk, and without AD2P it looks like redundant junk.
Most americans?!?!? Where did you get that from?
$ test `echo Lots` == `echo Most`
$ echo $?
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Im in an office full of ladies, and I live in South CA, where a woman working is a requirment unless you got a rich family. Stay-at home moms are snickered at, and there are always jokes around the office about the "barefoot and pregnant woman".
America is not South CA, or NYC, or Berserkely. Or rather, they fall within the scope of America, but they are not definitive. There's plenty of places in the US where a single income will cover a family. It may not be a glamorous, gadget-filled or particular noteworthy lifestyle, but it's doable, and to many, it's preferable.
Again, it comes down to a 'life choice'. I _choose_ to live in a high-tax state with such a high cost-of-living that it takes 2 incomes to raise a family. Someone else _chooses_ to live in Alaska, or Texas, or New Hampshire, where there's lower taxes and a single-worker family can survive. Someone else _chooses_ to live in MA so they can marry their same-sex partner. These are individuals doing what they want with their lives, or choosing to pursue a lifestyle and being responsible for everything else that goes with it.
..have less to do with storing it (although this would seem promising) than with the energy required to produce it in a usable form for motor vehicles.
Nuclear.
By makeing a Eurocentric judgement on "morality", you are maknig out your culture to be superior!
It is.
But if you had some sort of understanding of their culture, you may find that a good chunk of that 50% of women would agree that a woman shouldnt be off running around in college with boys(thats immorral), but should learn how to be a woman at home, and bear children(moral). how chauvanist!
That's a choice. Lots of Americans like the idea of keepin' the little lady home cooking and cleaning. However, in America, this is a (to quote Cartman) "life choice". Not being able to choose? That is the mark of an inferior culture.
An inferior culture shoots people in the back when they try to flee to a superior culture.
I would say that China is a hypocritical exception on our part. (Communist cuba, no cigar) There are many totalitarian countries that we do NOT do business with, but China is too large( and too lucritive ) to ignore.
It is hypocritical, but one goes to diplomacy with the world one has, not with the world one wants.
Yeah, I'm sure there's legitimate arguments against it, but it satisfies a sense of fair play that is positively limbic.
OTOH, there should be support for a MySQL-style multi-license scheme, where GPL'd code gets free use of patents and non-GPL'd code must pay for licenses.
... Stuff like this doesn't get funded, because the last time there was this level of oil pricing, lots of alternative sources got funded, and then oil got cheap again and destroyed all that invested capital.
How about this: have the fedgov put a floor on the price of oil, say $45/bbl. It would make no difference now, obviously, but it would serve to protect investments into alternate energy sources. If the price of oil goes below that level, use the tax money generated to offset stuff like highways, income taxes, etc.
I think you may be confusing Quartz with Aqua.
;)
Not so much confusing as retargeting emphasis: The KDE/Qt frameworks and other infrastructure elements are what would be comparable with Quartz, while the actual apps and themes are comparable to Aqua.
I just think that for the end user, the important stuff relates to the KDE/Aqua side, not the Qt/Quartz side, and if your goal is to scratch an itch you don't care, but if your goal is to get linux desktop to the masses it's time to care.
For me, fundamentally, I suppose the quartz vs. X is just not terribly interesting in comparison to KDE/GNOME vs. XP. I guess it was just a lukewarm attempt to hijack the thread
Perhaps my terminal optimism is sweetly naive, but I sincerely hope and expect X to go from being "just-about-ok" now to leaving Mac OX smoking dead in the dust in the next few years.
Never happen.
Oh, X as a protocol/platform may conceivably support Quartz functionality and beyond (Display SVG?), but in terms of the interface, I don't see any free WM in the same ballpark as OSX in terms of usability. KDE comes closest to quartz in theory (frameworks, OO, DCOP, KParts), but there is still only a nascent appreciation of the value of usability there. KDE suffers from the most stereotypical problem of OSS development: great tools and frameworks, and spotty/inconsistent/crappy usability. And I still think KDE is the best open WM/env out there! I use it daily and like the good stuff, but the bad stuff is like a sore zit that keeps getting rubbed, and I wish I could pop it...
I still feel it comes down to giving usability geeks the pimp hand when it comes to releases. Usability bugs need to be first-class citizens in the desktop world. And at a minimum everything everyone else can do must be supported, whether it's clean or orthogonal or not. Make it optional if it offends your sensibilities, but people expect to be able to do stuff like (for example) filter IMAP on the client side for a multitude of reasons.
Lets hear it for profitting from death and destruction!
Considering what technologies war and defense spending have given us, not least among which being the protocols that we use to submit nonsense to slashdot, here's what I say..
3 cheers for death and destruction!
Probably because their HR department has rubbed a bunch of techies the wrong way. Having to wait 6+ months for a response (if you're lucky) on a _solicited_ resume, then being prompted to take phone tests _after_ you've landed a job that has better pay. That, coupled with the company's opacity, could understandably damage their reputation amongst the traditionally hypercommunicative hacker community and OSS folks. Good guys aren't supposed to be that secretive.
Also, word on the street is that the 20% of 'personal research' time is now essentially added onto a standard work week, thus driving the hours on the job up, which smacks of a growing sweatshopization (but which may also be a symptom of bad HR).
OTOH, of the folks I know there, all seem to be pretty happy, so it could all just be sour grapes and bullshit. Still, hubris is something to actively, constantly thwart.
We can't compete with either in salary so we lose.
Tough shit.
No, seriously, tough shit.
It's about time salaries started going up for techies again.
If your corp is that cheap, bust out yourself!