1) It's too expensive. 2) It's not available in my area. I would have to pull my own cable and is therefore too expensive. 3) I would have to move to the high rent district to get broadband, this makes it too expensive.
Poll taker, "Hey the poll results are in, it's too expensive for most folks."
I have to agree with wowbanger as I am a Controls Engineer. One of the things I do is program industrial robots.
Most all of these are single arm robots (not the walking around things that you see on TV) with either 4 or 6 axi of motion. The accurracy is.001mm and you are talking about using a GPS? I don't think so.
so that if your place of business burns to the ground you won't lose everything.
We rotate our backup tapes so that every thursday tape goes to a safety deposit box at the bank. We have five thursday tapes so that we always have a backup from a month ago (more or less...)
I know that many here have asked why we don't just use the fire safe, but that really won't protect a plastic backup tape because while it won't burn it will get hot.
Everything that is important to our business is stored on the server and gets backed up nightly. This is something that has saved our ass's many a times. One occurance was when a rather new employee decided that Kazaa would be cool to install. The virus we contracted destroyed over 6,000 jpegs and it took me over 10 hours to clean up the mess.
How many businesses would survive a total loss of all business data? I am betting less than half.
I recently had my Linux server filesystem go bonko for no known reason. I used Tom's Root Boot (TRB) floppy distribution.
What I did was take the hard drive out of my Linux box and stuck it in my Win98 machine. I booted with TRB, mounted both drives (yes one was obviously vfat) and got ALL my data back except for a quickie web site I did.
I discovered that/var was completely empty.
Still don't know why.
It would have been tough to get my data back (all 9GB of it) with a DOS 2.1 foppy, don't ya think?
I downloaded PowerMax from the Maxtor web site and did some testing on the disk. Everything was OK.
"I disagree, Windows has only one advantage over Linux and that is games. This may be a problem on the home desktop, but on the business desktop, it is not relevant."
Well, as one who would love to put Linux on my desktop at work, I have to disagree with you.
Linux cannot run ACAD2002, RSLogix, Allen-Bradley 6200, RSLinx, RSLogix, WinSEL, Omron PLC software, Framework, etc. These are all programs that run under Win32 or DOS. Yeah I know there is Wine and VMware, but we simply don't have the time to work all of that out.
I know it's been said before but it bears repeating. We use our computers to run applications, not operating systems.
because my 10 year old doesn't understand why I can't just make a copy of Pod Racer so we can multiplayer at home.
Especially since his Mom has warez copies of MS Office on her machine that she uses to writes her papers.
Wow... The the ex and I are talking.
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Yep, it's true. After nearly 3 three years of fighting we are talking again. Her boyfriend moved out and went back to his wife. (He told her he was divorced.) He even had my parents and kids convinced he was a Great Guy.
So... for the past week, she and I have been talking instead of yelling. It turns out that there were a lot of misunderstandings.
No hope of getting back together (not that I would want too), but at least we are friendly now.
You can buy a nice Staublii or Motoman robot for around $80,000.
Of course by the time you generate controls drawings, mechanical drawings (for end effectors and fixturing) and develope the application you are problably talking closer to $120-$150k for one robot.
"It would take a major beowulf cluster to deal with all of the dynamics on an assembly line the way a single human being could deal with them."
We very seldom use what most here would concider a computer for machine control. Besides that, I have working on a project where we had to handle 33 variations of the same part on one piece of assembly and test equipment. The entire project was less than $2 million. The cycle time for a completed part was 10 seconds.
An Allen-Bradley SLC 5/04 processor with 16k (yes, that is k) is typical of what we use for machine control. I know this seems a small amount of RAM, but when you are primarily dealing with bits not much is required.
"Oh, why $3M? Because there isn't a computer anywhere that can make decisions better than a human brain of any stature."
I have to disagree with you here. In some cases, the computer can make the dicisions much more quickly and reliably than any human on earth. One example I have personal experience with is machine vision systems. I did a project that involved inspecting disk pack assemblies that were assembled by hand and then orbital formed them in place. The operator would swear that he assembled them correctly when our machine rejected an assembly. Upon inspection, it was proven every time that the operator had in fact assembled them incorrectly. During final exceptance we even rejected an assembly because an eyelash was in the disk assembly. Our customers were very impressed and it also made a strong case for doing this assembly in a clean room.
"even paying the average person $5/Hr would cost Ford $350K for 35 years."
Actually that is $364k in 35 years, but you left out things like benefits, social security taxes, and unemployment insurance that the company has to pay on top of the emplyee's wages.
OK, I could go on for quite a while but I am done for now...
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... from a Slashdot poll?
I don't have broadband because:
1) It's too expensive.
2) It's not available in my area. I would have to pull my own cable and is therefore too expensive.
3) I would have to move to the high rent district to get broadband, this makes it too expensive.
Poll taker, "Hey the poll results are in, it's too expensive for most folks."
Ummm...
That is just too freaky...
hehe
Thanks!
Damn... steppers? Servos rule man... especially when you use resovlers instead of standard encoders.
I didn't intentionally mangle you nick. I wrote that reply before properly caffeinated.
Most all of these are single arm robots (not the walking around things that you see on TV) with either 4 or 6 axi of motion. The accurracy is .001mm and you are talking about using a GPS? I don't think so.
=)
We rotate our backup tapes so that every thursday tape goes to a safety deposit box at the bank. We have five thursday tapes so that we always have a backup from a month ago (more or less...)
I know that many here have asked why we don't just use the fire safe, but that really won't protect a plastic backup tape because while it won't burn it will get hot.
Everything that is important to our business is stored on the server and gets backed up nightly. This is something that has saved our ass's many a times. One occurance was when a rather new employee decided that Kazaa would be cool to install. The virus we contracted destroyed over 6,000 jpegs and it took me over 10 hours to clean up the mess.
How many businesses would survive a total loss of all business data? I am betting less than half.
There was a time when I didn't mind dinking with things for days on end just to see if I could make it work. Now I don't have time...
they are not Open Source. I guess this is the obvious one to many... mode me down if you wish.
Sure, she will never know it. Until she goes to Best Buy and gets a game for the grandkids. And it won't install...
What I did was take the hard drive out of my Linux box and stuck it in my Win98 machine. I booted with TRB, mounted both drives (yes one was obviously vfat) and got ALL my data back except for a quickie web site I did.
I discovered that /var was completely empty.
Still don't know why.
It would have been tough to get my data back (all 9GB of it) with a DOS 2.1 foppy, don't ya think?
I downloaded PowerMax from the Maxtor web site and did some testing on the disk. Everything was OK.
*shrugs*
Can they garauntee this? I pay for my current ISP and get a lot more spam than that. This sounds tempting...
Well, as one who would love to put Linux on my desktop at work, I have to disagree with you.
Linux cannot run ACAD2002, RSLogix, Allen-Bradley 6200, RSLinx, RSLogix, WinSEL, Omron PLC software, Framework, etc. These are all programs that run under Win32 or DOS. Yeah I know there is Wine and VMware, but we simply don't have the time to work all of that out.
I know it's been said before but it bears repeating. We use our computers to run applications, not operating systems.
because my 10 year old doesn't understand why I can't just make a copy of Pod Racer so we can multiplayer at home.
Especially since his Mom has warez copies of MS Office on her machine that she uses to writes her papers.
Yep, it's true. After nearly 3 three years of fighting we are talking again. Her boyfriend moved out and went back to his wife. (He told her he was divorced.) He even had my parents and kids convinced he was a Great Guy.
So... for the past week, she and I have been talking instead of yelling. It turns out that there were a lot of misunderstandings.
No hope of getting back together (not that I would want too), but at least we are friendly now.
I guess there really is a Santa Claus!
It's only a hobby. Only a hobby... Only a hob... (drool)
You can buy a nice Staublii or Motoman robot for around $80,000.
Of course by the time you generate controls drawings, mechanical drawings (for end effectors and fixturing) and develope the application you are problably talking closer to $120-$150k for one robot.
We very seldom use what most here would concider a computer for machine control. Besides that, I have working on a project where we had to handle 33 variations of the same part on one piece of assembly and test equipment. The entire project was less than $2 million. The cycle time for a completed part was 10 seconds.
An Allen-Bradley SLC 5/04 processor with 16k (yes, that is k) is typical of what we use for machine control. I know this seems a small amount of RAM, but when you are primarily dealing with bits not much is required.
I have to disagree with you here. In some cases, the computer can make the dicisions much more quickly and reliably than any human on earth. One example I have personal experience with is machine vision systems. I did a project that involved inspecting disk pack assemblies that were assembled by hand and then orbital formed them in place. The operator would swear that he assembled them correctly when our machine rejected an assembly. Upon inspection, it was proven every time that the operator had in fact assembled them incorrectly. During final exceptance we even rejected an assembly because an eyelash was in the disk assembly. Our customers were very impressed and it also made a strong case for doing this assembly in a clean room.
Actually that is $364k in 35 years, but you left out things like benefits, social security taxes, and unemployment insurance that the company has to pay on top of the emplyee's wages.
OK, I could go on for quite a while but I am done for now...
It's prolly just a scam to get us all to spam the e-mail address: cdjoyner66@aol.com