I've been an Ubuntu user for about a year, and I've used FreeBSD for many more. I like Ubuntu, but I used KDE on my FreeBSD machines, and ended up installing the KDE packages on the Ubuntu machine.
So, when my hard drive failed I thought I'd just cut to the chase, and install Kubuntu.
I certainly didn't expect problems, as it is essentially Ubuntu, right?
I'm not going to iterate the various problems I had - the main one was getting wireless to work (which I did after manually hacking the config) - but I will say that Kubuntu ain't no Ubuntu. They need really need to work on polishing the system integration/config aspects of the tools. Ubuntu has just done a better job of it.
I wasn't happy until I blew away Kubuntu, and installed Ubuntu and the KDE packages. Everything is working just fine, and life is good.
(I'm not trying to start a Kubuntu/Ubuntu flamewar. You asked, and I'm just sayin')
and if it were linux, with similar user functionality, including auto-play (and yes, there's a lot of people out there who like it, whether you do or not)?
The user would put in the CD, get prompted to install some software to play the CD. Rather than it just installing, the user would be prompted to input their sudo password. Rootkit installs.
There's a lot to bitch about Windows' users running as admin, but your assertion is full of crap.
It lacks professionalism./. is a commercial site. In most other places, customer complaints are taken seriously, for fear of losing that customer. Dupe stories add little, if any, value, yet at the same time increase the signal to noise ratio, so people complain (increasing the s2n ratio).
You're right.
Because a newspaper has advertisers and subscribers, it has to protect its reputation as being truthful.
Too bad so many of them seem to have forgotten this.
Doing real research, as you describe, means not getting the "scoop". Giving comprehensive views makes it hard to sensationalize, i.e., scare, their product (the viewer). Frightened people watch more news, which keeps their customers (the advertisers) coming back for more.
It's no surprise that the MSM press doesn't like bloggers - the competition for scare-mongering, highly-biased, and uninformed articles is too stiff when anybody can get in the game.
(mostly - there are some exceptions)
Unless by "moving around" the submitter means "different sites", "work from home", or even "we don't have budget/skills for reimplementing our network". Roaming profiles are pretty fat, bandwidth-wise.
The question seems pretty stacked against OOo to me, and that's fine. It just shows a limitation of migrating to OOo in an established business environment. Its one of many things that should be addressed if OOo is to succeed.
If it's anything like other neat projects I've seen from various places, the initial concept was written in whatever language the guy who came up with, and then wrote it, was familiar with.
In other words, maybe this started out as some geek with an idea hacking at something in C#. Someone higher up got a look at it, and decided to offer it funding. Rather than start all over, they polished up and released what they had, and started working on the newer version.
Really cool stuff is seldom driven by committee. Its usually some guy scratching an itch (and we're all the better for it, aren't we?)
Start at a location north of the South Pole where traveling 1 mile South will place you at a distance from the South Pole where traveling East is exactly one mile in circumference. Then travel north.
Furthermore, it also works for a half-mile circumference, third of a mile, etc.
It'll be a really boring movie, with the hero dying in the first ten minutes, reviving, dying, reviving, dying...with the climax being a controller thrown accompanied by a lot of cursing.
Is "Unreliable Linux" a new distribution? I wouldn't use it myself, but it might help keep the consulting fees coming in. Right now its mostly Windows, and I could stand the change./poor attempt at humor
I'm sorry to hear that OSDL is turning down the opportunity to do a joint study on the merits/demerits of both platforms.
I'm even more disappointed to hear that they weren't even willing to discuss the terms for determining the tests to be conducted. Kind of like saying that you don't like the rules of the game, before the rules have even been written, or even finding out if you're going to have any say in those rules.
It appears that OSDL has taken a page from your playbook: FUD. Hey - MS may only use the positive spin from the report! No shit. As if OSS companies couldn't do the exact same thing. I'm pretty sure IBM can match MS' marketing dollars.
Anyway, here's what I propose. bitflip Development Labs will be happy to entertain your proposal. I will warn you ahead of time: I will want transparency throughout the process. If at any point, you appear to be insisting on secrecy to hide the weaknesses of your products (I don't want to give away proprietary stuff of yours), bDL will pull out of the process, and let the community know why.
It is understandable that you will want the research to reflect positively on your products. I assure you, you'll get no less from bDL. If we cannot agree on a compromise of tests that reflect the strengths of both sides, then bDL will pull out of the process, and let the community know why.
I don't mind if the tests are conducted in facilities you own, MS, but bDL will want assurances of equal access equivalent to your own. If during the testing process, there is even the appearance of easier access for MS personell (even indirectly - even a _smidgen_), bDL will pull out of the process, and let the community know why.
I think you get the idea, Microsoft. I'll play nice, if you play nice. If we start out by agreeing that both platforms have strengths and weaknesses, we'll be off to a good start.
See there, MS? Not everybody in the OSS community is a zealot. Some of us don't trust you at all, but we believe we're capable and intelligent enough to work with you, and smart enough to keep from being cheated by you. That is, if you understand that we're going to have terms, too, and are willing to accomodate them. If not, well, you still don't get it. That's fine. We'll still be here later, when and if you do.
Let's see if I have this straight. The entire proposal is thrown out on the _assumption_ that MS will skew the tests. Okay, that's understandable. Yet, all we get is that from the so-called OSS representative. So much for transparency. Was there an NDA involved?
If the proposal was "MS will design, conduct, and report the tests," then yea, same old crap. But was it? I haven't heard. The article (OMFG, I read the article!) doesn't say.
To dismiss the competition based on what might happen (the bulk of the article) is also called FUD.
Why not use this against them? If MS can't agree on a set of criteria that (mostly) satisfies both sides, then say so, and point it out. If they do, well, fantastic! No more excuses from either side (haha - yea, right).
The most likely outcome would be what anybody with real experience with both platforms already knows: they both have their strengths and weaknesses. If representatives from the OSS and MS can't come to an agreement, that's fine.
I used to mind this, but I've since changed my opinion. Sure, the LA Times did most of the work, and wouldn't mind the revenue.
However, sending readers to the little site helps out the little guy. It gets him/her some immediate revenue, and a little exposure. Maybe deserved, maybe not - but it is a chance for people to see for themselves, where otherwise something worthwhile might've been lost in the noise. There's a lot of babble here at slashdot against big corps getting bigger (maybe you buy into that, maybe not) - sending readers to a small site seems consistent with the overall theme.
Its not as if the origins of the story were obscured; it's quite easy to follow the links if you're really interested.
Slashdot Mirror
breast cancer
Never mind how I know, but people looking for pr0n don't use "breast" in their search terms.
I've been an Ubuntu user for about a year, and I've used FreeBSD for many more. I like Ubuntu, but I used KDE on my FreeBSD machines, and ended up installing the KDE packages on the Ubuntu machine.
So, when my hard drive failed I thought I'd just cut to the chase, and install Kubuntu.
I certainly didn't expect problems, as it is essentially Ubuntu, right?
I'm not going to iterate the various problems I had - the main one was getting wireless to work (which I did after manually hacking the config) - but I will say that Kubuntu ain't no Ubuntu. They need really need to work on polishing the system integration/config aspects of the tools. Ubuntu has just done a better job of it.
I wasn't happy until I blew away Kubuntu, and installed Ubuntu and the KDE packages. Everything is working just fine, and life is good.
(I'm not trying to start a Kubuntu/Ubuntu flamewar. You asked, and I'm just sayin')
and if it were linux, with similar user functionality, including auto-play (and yes, there's a lot of people out there who like it, whether you do or not)?
The user would put in the CD, get prompted to install some software to play the CD. Rather than it just installing, the user would be prompted to input their sudo password. Rootkit installs.
There's a lot to bitch about Windows' users running as admin, but your assertion is full of crap.
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How 'bout you wake up now and get to work, ya slacker! ;)
It lacks professionalism. /. is a commercial site. In most other places, customer complaints are taken seriously, for fear of losing that customer. Dupe stories add little, if any, value, yet at the same time increase the signal to noise ratio, so people complain (increasing the s2n ratio).
Breast enlargement ads are fine - so long as I get "before" and "after" pix...especially "after". Market research, and all that.
You're right. Because a newspaper has advertisers and subscribers, it has to protect its reputation as being truthful. Too bad so many of them seem to have forgotten this. Doing real research, as you describe, means not getting the "scoop". Giving comprehensive views makes it hard to sensationalize, i.e., scare, their product (the viewer). Frightened people watch more news, which keeps their customers (the advertisers) coming back for more. It's no surprise that the MSM press doesn't like bloggers - the competition for scare-mongering, highly-biased, and uninformed articles is too stiff when anybody can get in the game. (mostly - there are some exceptions)
Unless by "moving around" the submitter means "different sites", "work from home", or even "we don't have budget/skills for reimplementing our network". Roaming profiles are pretty fat, bandwidth-wise.
The question seems pretty stacked against OOo to me, and that's fine. It just shows a limitation of migrating to OOo in an established business environment. Its one of many things that should be addressed if OOo is to succeed.
I'd like to change things to "a little closer to quitting" time, and "a little further from deadline" time.
Well, if people prioritized "spending time with their kids" above "a higher standard of living" they'd find many more hours a day to spend with them.
The only people I see putting _your_ argument forward are the ones who haven't figured that out.
(yes, I know plenty of people at or near the poverty line, and yes, I'm practicing what I'm preaching)
It isn't entirely the parent's fault. But plenty of the burden lies with them, and its a disgrace to try to place so much of it on the State.
Whaddya mean, nobody's figured it out? That's my current business plan!
If it's anything like other neat projects I've seen from various places, the initial concept was written in whatever language the guy who came up with, and then wrote it, was familiar with.
In other words, maybe this started out as some geek with an idea hacking at something in C#. Someone higher up got a look at it, and decided to offer it funding. Rather than start all over, they polished up and released what they had, and started working on the newer version.
Really cool stuff is seldom driven by committee. Its usually some guy scratching an itch (and we're all the better for it, aren't we?)
Fool! Its not a big yellow face!
THE MOON IS ON FIRE!!!!
Infinite.
;)
Start at a location north of the South Pole where traveling 1 mile South will place you at a distance from the South Pole where traveling East is exactly one mile in circumference. Then travel north.
Furthermore, it also works for a half-mile circumference, third of a mile, etc.
(you didn't expect me to do the math, I hope
It'll be a really boring movie, with the hero dying in the first ten minutes, reviving, dying, reviving, dying...with the climax being a controller thrown accompanied by a lot of cursing.
Maybe the music will be better.
I'd like something that converts the unintelligible babble of my coworkers into something coherent. Productivity would skyrocket!
Is "Unreliable Linux" a new distribution? I wouldn't use it myself, but it might help keep the consulting fees coming in. Right now its mostly Windows, and I could stand the change. /poor attempt at humor
That assumes something resembling a long-dead and buried concept known as journalistic integrity.
The 1950s called, and they want their values back.
I'm sorry to hear that OSDL is turning down the opportunity to do a joint study on the merits/demerits of both platforms.
I'm even more disappointed to hear that they weren't even willing to discuss the terms for determining the tests to be conducted. Kind of like saying that you don't like the rules of the game, before the rules have even been written, or even finding out if you're going to have any say in those rules.
It appears that OSDL has taken a page from your playbook: FUD. Hey - MS may only use the positive spin from the report! No shit. As if OSS companies couldn't do the exact same thing. I'm pretty sure IBM can match MS' marketing dollars.
Anyway, here's what I propose. bitflip Development Labs will be happy to entertain your proposal. I will warn you ahead of time: I will want transparency throughout the process. If at any point, you appear to be insisting on secrecy to hide the weaknesses of your products (I don't want to give away proprietary stuff of yours), bDL will pull out of the process, and let the community know why.
It is understandable that you will want the research to reflect positively on your products. I assure you, you'll get no less from bDL. If we cannot agree on a compromise of tests that reflect the strengths of both sides, then bDL will pull out of the process, and let the community know why.
I don't mind if the tests are conducted in facilities you own, MS, but bDL will want assurances of equal access equivalent to your own. If during the testing process, there is even the appearance of easier access for MS personell (even indirectly - even a _smidgen_), bDL will pull out of the process, and let the community know why.
I think you get the idea, Microsoft. I'll play nice, if you play nice. If we start out by agreeing that both platforms have strengths and weaknesses, we'll be off to a good start.
See there, MS? Not everybody in the OSS community is a zealot. Some of us don't trust you at all, but we believe we're capable and intelligent enough to work with you, and smart enough to keep from being cheated by you. That is, if you understand that we're going to have terms, too, and are willing to accomodate them. If not, well, you still don't get it. That's fine. We'll still be here later, when and if you do.
Thank you for your time,
bitflip
Let's see if I have this straight. The entire proposal is thrown out on the _assumption_ that MS will skew the tests. Okay, that's understandable. Yet, all we get is that from the so-called OSS representative. So much for transparency. Was there an NDA involved?
If the proposal was "MS will design, conduct, and report the tests," then yea, same old crap. But was it? I haven't heard. The article (OMFG, I read the article!) doesn't say.
To dismiss the competition based on what might happen (the bulk of the article) is also called FUD.
Why not use this against them? If MS can't agree on a set of criteria that (mostly) satisfies both sides, then say so, and point it out. If they do, well, fantastic! No more excuses from either side (haha - yea, right).
The most likely outcome would be what anybody with real experience with both platforms already knows: they both have their strengths and weaknesses. If representatives from the OSS and MS can't come to an agreement, that's fine.
But at least try.
Yes, indeed, he's a psychopath.
I used to mind this, but I've since changed my opinion. Sure, the LA Times did most of the work, and wouldn't mind the revenue.
However, sending readers to the little site helps out the little guy. It gets him/her some immediate revenue, and a little exposure. Maybe deserved, maybe not - but it is a chance for people to see for themselves, where otherwise something worthwhile might've been lost in the noise. There's a lot of babble here at slashdot against big corps getting bigger (maybe you buy into that, maybe not) - sending readers to a small site seems consistent with the overall theme.
Its not as if the origins of the story were obscured; it's quite easy to follow the links if you're really interested.
They could all bus to work.
Where do I send my six cents?