I, for one, am very skeptical about the documents continual use of the phrases "to all destinations" and "without additional review and classification". I mean, yes, open the flood gates, yada, yada, allow encryption for export, yada, yada. But what about countries the USA is at war with? And bluntly, by the sounds of it, this law takes away pretty much ALL of the US government's control on encryption; and traditionally, the US gov't doesn't like releasing control.
What? Do you really think that the countries USA is at war with care the least bit about USA's laws? There are still hundreds of other countries they can get their crypto stuff from. USA != world. --
I just find it quite amusing to read this discussion at all; It does a great job in mixing two different things: X and XFree. There are other X-servers for Linux which do a much better job in easier configuration, speed etc. The only drawback is that you have to pay for them (too much for personal use I think, but not that bad for companies). --
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Is your girlfriend in the military or something? Most normal people typing normal documents type three capital letters in a row far less often than programmers do. People in the military, though, tend to have a jargon laced with many abbreviations that are typed in all-caps. If you should only use the caps lock key when typing three or more caps characters in a row, then normal people have far less use for the key than programmers.
No, she's not in the military. She's a student, studying some business stuff (which I know about nothing about..). Anyway, she writes lot's of e.g. bills. Check the last bill you got, and count the uppercase words in it. My last phonebill has 23 uppercase words. (Yes, I know, phone bills are not written manually, but I just used it as an example)
Also, I disagree with the statement that you should use the Caps Lock if you're going to write more than three letters in caps.
This would be a good place for discussion, but I don't really know much about the matter. I only know that they teach typing that way, and when you really know how to type and you don't think about the Caps Lock key any more, using it when writing 3+ letters is faster. --
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First of all I'd like to point out that our current keyboards are designed for people who really write a lot, typists. Not for coders. People who have to write lot's of text with their keyboard. They don't want to become one with the computer, they want to get the text written.
and there's a CAPSLOCK key that's just as big as the TAB key. Hello? What are these people thinking? That I want to hit CAPSLOCK as often as I do tab, and that I don't care about CONTROL or ESCAPE?
Yes. That's exactly what they are thinking. On my keyboard, which I like really much (many people would call it love, I have used it for 12 years now and I'm going to use it as long as it lasts) the Caps Lock key is a bit bigger than the TAB key. I probably do hit the tab key more often than the Caps Lock key, since it's used for all those file name completions etc., but e.g. my girlfriend, who's not a hacker, but still does work a lot with computers, she writes mostly all kind of documents etc., she uses the Caps Lock key much more often than the tab key. She can write a 10 pages long document and hit the tab key let's say 5 times, and hit the Caps Lock key for 40 times. (Remember, you should use Caps Lock if you're going to write more than 3 letters in capitals). The other thing I'd like to point out is that not every lives in USA or has the kind of keyboard the author has:
If you ever need to hit a chord with more than two keys, such as CONTROL-ALT-SHIFT-F11, you're in serious, serious trouble.
No I'm not. On my keyboard the Control key is located on the bottom left (and on the bottom right as well) corner. The Alt key is right beside it. The shift key is right above the Control key. So I can press them simultaneusly with one hand. Even with one finger. Pressin F11 with the other hand should not be mission impossible for anyone.
Consider how much easier it is to type a `/' to start a search than it is to start a search instead of a ALT-S, or horrors, pulling down a menu
No it's not. On my keyboard, which is has those Finnish keys where the USA -style keyboard have;: and - where the USA -style has / (if I remember correctly), pressing / is not just one key. I have to press shift-7. Much harder than pressing ALT and S, which are quite near each other. Of course I could press / in the numeric keypad, but that would require moving my right hand, therefore I prefer pressing shift-7. Ok, enough rant for now.. Just wanted to remind that there are other kind of keyboards than yours, and that the keyboards are not designed for coders but for typists. --
I just want a cd player that plays cds, mp3 cds and picks up radio stations:) Anyone know of any?
I have one of those at work. It also works as a cd recorder. It even runs X. I can even do my coding with it. It claims to be a "clone" Celeron 450, whatever that means. --
I don't know what's the case with Babelfish etc. but I know that at least one finnish ->english translator site has used it's logs to improve it's translations. Of course the changes have been made manually, but I see it as a good thing to see it translating something totally wrong, and after some it translates the same sentence correctly. --
Under US law, only the originator of an invention can claim a patent. If the originator publicly announces the invention and fails to file (for 1 year? 2 years? I forget...) after publication, no patent can be granted to that particular invention.
It seems to be a collection of very old stuff, that has been floating the net for many years
Exactly.. It obviously tries to collect all that kind of humorous stuff in to one place. Definitely a page to bookmark and read when you're bored..:-) --
One aspect of OpenSSH that many people should like is that the most recent security hole in ssh-1.2.27 was non-existant in OpenSSH. For that reason alone, OpenSSH might be a better choice -- especially with the lack of developer news concerning ssh1 and ssh2.
Does that mean that OpenSSH would be more secure? I don't think so. The fact that it didn't have the bug which was in ssh-1.2.27 does not mean that it wouldn't have bugs which don't exist in ssh. The fact that there haven't been so many OpenSSH bugs in public simply means that it isn't as widely used as ssh. Widely used == widely tested.
Repeat after me: There is no bug-free software! (and ssh is actually really good; I can only remember two "public" bugs in it in the last year or so, compare to e.g. browsers..)
On the other hand, it might be possible that OpenSSH would respond faster to security bugs; If it becomes really popular, time will tell.
As far as Windows is concerned, I the boundaries are harder to see -- isn't the GUI part of the kernel? Whatever, notepad.exe is on the CD, and that is not part of the OS.
You can run Windows in it's dos mode, without the GUI. It clearly isn't a part of the kernel. Is it a part of the operating system is another question. And is Windows really an operating system is still another. (My opinions: No and no). --
Not that these kind of articles/questions bother me much, but I have always said Windows 95 is an application an not an OS. Same goes for NT. Perhaps the package includes a kernel and so on, but most of it is actually fancy packaging rather than anything else.
Why is NT not an Operating System? Win 95 and Win 98 are clearly applications which run on top of MS-DOS, but NT doesn't run on top of anything.. --
I would say that the Operating System is the very core of what's running on your system. The barest minimum without which nothing would run.
That part of the OS is called the kernel.
.e. it's the bit that talks directly to the hardware, and which applications, services etc require to run.
That's about how I'd define operating system. (The kernel + required applications to run programs.).
It does not include a browser, text editor, compiler or even the GUI (sorry Bill).
This is a more tricky part. Which applications are required? I'd include some sort of text editor at least. I mean, edlin is definitely a part of MS-DOS, just as vi is a part of any "standard" unix operating system. GUI might be part of an operating system - if the OS can't be run without it, or if the GUI can't be changed. Linux can't really be used if there is no compiler, therefore I'd say gcc is a part of GNU/Linux. --
And is this patent worldwide? (If it is, then surely other countries should have some say in the matter).
No. Patents only apply in the countries they were granted. US Patent Office's patents only apply in the US, and if there is no patent granted here in Finland we can do whatever we want. (At least as long as we don't come and sell our product in the US that is). --
The difference is that it can do more things at once because of all the processors involved. Does it make your laptop look slow? Hell no, because if you had ASCI Red, you wouldn't have any apps that take advantage of its parallelism to run on it anyway.
It should be quite easy to port distributed.net client to the operating system ASCI Red runs. It would really crack RC5 fast;-) --
Namely, this is perhaps the first time in history when Microsoft actually had a patch for a new exploit *before it was released to the public*!! Yes, that's right, this email virus works in exactly the same manner as one of those web-page exploits a couple months back, for which MS has had a critical update patch on Windows Update for several weeks now.
Well, another IE bug was posted on the bugtraq, was it yesterday? I wonder who'll be the first: Microsoft releasing a patch, or someone coding an email virus using that hole.. --
What exactly is the big deal about speeds in the GHz? May be a mile stone, but it's only logical progression.
It's the same big deal as with 10MHz (those 12MHz AT clones were "way cool":-), 30MHz, 40MHz, 100MHz, 200MHz, 300MHz, 400MHz, 500MHz and 700MHz. 2GHz will also be a big deal:-) --
That's 4.8 mbps, I'm impressed, although you'll forgive me if I'm still a bit skeptical.
Yes, of course you are as you're supposed to be; But let me state some facts: First of all, I wrote "up to" - that means that this is the best I've got so far. Of course it's only possible in the middle of the night when there aren't many others using the same cable.. On the other hand there are two things that makes the things a bit different between Lappeenranta (which is a small town in the middle of nowhere) and the big cities in USA (or even in Helsinki, which of course is still a small city in the USA scale..); Here we don't have that many users on this cable (this will of course change when more and more people get a cable modem; currently most of hardcore Internet users in Lappeenranta are already hooked to the 10Mbps campus network). And (this is very strongly linked to the previous statement) our modems are not limited to a certain bandwidth as most of the cable modem providers in USA do (at least not at the same amount; of course it would be technically impossible to get more than 10Mbps..). --
I think my basement is more wired than 90% of the slashdot readership - but I'm not going to go out of my way to highlight this fact.
Well, for starters I don't even have basement. But anyway, I'm sure my home is less wired than 90% of the slashdot readers' homes. The reason? Well, to be honest, I get enough of computers at home and at school, and 1 (yes, one!) computer is enough for me to run my irc and to let me read my email and to browse slahsdot. Can you believe it? I really don't need any more than just one computer at a time! And now comes the really spooky part: It's only a 133MHz Pentium! Geez. Still, it does everything I need it to do for me; IRC runs just fine, netscape runs even quite fast, it plays mp3s quite nicely, and I have no problems at all running StarOffice of Word Perfect with it. You probably think that it's impossible with such an old relic.. Well, actually, not everything is pre-historical in this computer; it has a quite modern cable modem Internet connection, which is probably quite much faster than your cable modems in the USA (at least if compared to the stories I keep reading in/., here it's really possible to get up to 600kB/s from the network (and that's kilobytes, not kilobits)). But that's what one really needs in a home computer now-a-days imho (at least if one doesn't play computer games, which of course require the fastest machine you can buy + a bit more). Pheef.. enough rant for now:-) --
Using the network card MAC address as part of the IPv6 address is only one way of setting up the global IPv6 addresses (it's unmanaged autoconfiguration used by rtadvd). Alternatives are manual configuration or using DHCP with IPv6 extension.
It's also possible to use the IPv6 stateless manager autoconfiguration (without DHCP) using an interface identifier that changes over time. It's documented in draft-ietf-ipngwg-addrconf-privacy-00.txt. A must read before starting complaints like this. --
What possible reason should I give a damn? Netscape 4.x is a fat, bloated, buggy and badly designed piece of crap. Me, I still use 3.04. Pages that require 4.x, don't bother to read them.
I thought so too for a long time. Then for I decided to try netscape 4.x - just for fun. After a little browsing (with top sitting next to netscape) I noticed that it actually took less memory than 3.x, it was about the same speed and it rendered the pages far better. I suggest you go ahead and try it too (I know the package is a big one, but it's definitely worth it unless you have a 2400bps modem).
P.S. I have a P133, so I really do care if a program is faster than another one.
Incidentally, how come other major contributors to UNIX and Linux development (Rob Pike immediately comes to mind, as he only has a B.S. yet is a full research MTS at Bell Labs) haven't been conferred such honors? Why? Publicity. Hype. Lobbying. That's about it.
That's just the normal Swedish habit of stealing everything from us.. Now they are trying to steal Linus from Finns! --
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I, for one, am very skeptical about the documents continual use of the phrases "to all destinations" and "without additional review and classification". I mean, yes, open the flood gates, yada, yada, allow encryption for export, yada, yada. But what about countries the USA is at war with? And bluntly, by the sounds of it, this law takes away pretty much ALL of the US government's control on encryption; and traditionally, the US gov't doesn't like releasing control.
What? Do you really think that the countries USA is at war with care the least bit about USA's laws? There are still hundreds of other countries they can get their crypto stuff from. USA != world.
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I just find it quite amusing to read this discussion at all; It does a great job in mixing two different things: X and XFree. There are other X-servers for Linux which do a much better job in easier configuration, speed etc. The only drawback is that you have to pay for them (too much for personal use I think, but not that bad for companies).
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Is your girlfriend in the military or something? Most normal people typing normal documents type three capital letters in a row far less often than programmers do. People in the military, though, tend to have a jargon laced with many abbreviations that are typed in all-caps. If you should only use the caps lock key when typing three or more caps characters in a row, then normal people have far less use for the key than programmers.
No, she's not in the military. She's a student, studying some business stuff (which I know about nothing about..). Anyway, she writes lot's of e.g. bills. Check the last bill you got, and count the uppercase words in it. My last phonebill has 23 uppercase words. (Yes, I know, phone bills are not written manually, but I just used it as an example)
Also, I disagree with the statement that you should use the Caps Lock if you're going to write more than three letters in caps.
This would be a good place for discussion, but I don't really know much about the matter. I only know that they teach typing that way, and when you really know how to type and you don't think about the Caps Lock key any more, using it when writing 3+ letters is faster.
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First of all I'd like to point out that our current keyboards are designed for people who really write a lot, typists. Not for coders. People who have to write lot's of text with their keyboard. They don't want to become one with the computer, they want to get the text written.
;: and - where the USA -style has / (if I remember correctly), pressing / is not just one key. I have to press shift-7. Much harder than pressing ALT and S, which are quite near each other. Of course I could press / in the numeric keypad, but that would require moving my right hand, therefore I prefer pressing shift-7.
and there's a CAPSLOCK key that's just as big as the TAB key. Hello? What are these people thinking? That I want to hit CAPSLOCK as often as I do tab, and that I don't care about CONTROL or ESCAPE?
Yes. That's exactly what they are thinking. On my keyboard, which I like really much (many people would call it love, I have used it for 12 years now and I'm going to use it as long as it lasts) the Caps Lock key is a bit bigger than the TAB key. I probably do hit the tab key more often than the Caps Lock key, since it's used for all those file name completions etc., but e.g. my girlfriend, who's not a hacker, but still does work a lot with computers, she writes mostly all kind of documents etc., she uses the Caps Lock key much more often than the tab key. She can write a 10 pages long document and hit the tab key let's say 5 times, and hit the Caps Lock key for 40 times. (Remember, you should use Caps Lock if you're going to write more than 3 letters in capitals).
The other thing I'd like to point out is that not every lives in USA or has the kind of keyboard the author has:
If you ever need to hit a chord with more than two keys, such as CONTROL-ALT-SHIFT-F11, you're in serious, serious trouble.
No I'm not. On my keyboard the Control key is located on the bottom left (and on the bottom right as well) corner. The Alt key is right beside it. The shift key is right above the Control key. So I can press them simultaneusly with one hand. Even with one finger. Pressin F11 with the other hand should not be mission impossible for anyone.
Consider how much easier it is to type a `/' to start a search than it is to start a search instead of a ALT-S, or horrors, pulling down a menu
No it's not. On my keyboard, which is has those Finnish keys where the USA -style keyboard have
Ok, enough rant for now.. Just wanted to remind that there are other kind of keyboards than yours, and that the keyboards are not designed for coders but for typists.
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:-( Loads faster than the original site though.
Too bad it seems that even you are being slashdotted
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Yep, that would definitely be the thing I would like to have :-)
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I just want a cd player that plays cds, mp3 cds and picks up radio stations :) Anyone know of any?
I have one of those at work. It also works as a cd recorder. It even runs X. I can even do my coding with it. It claims to be a "clone" Celeron 450, whatever that means.
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I don't know what's the case with Babelfish etc. but I know that at least one finnish ->english translator site has used it's logs to improve it's translations. Of course the changes have been made manually, but I see it as a good thing to see it translating something totally wrong, and after some it translates the same sentence correctly.
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Under US law, only the originator of an invention can claim a patent. If the originator publicly announces the invention and fails to file (for 1 year? 2 years? I forget...) after publication, no patent can be granted to that particular invention.
I found this: (United States Code, Title 35 - Patents, Part II - Patentability of inventions and grant of patents, Chapter 10 - Patentability of inventions, Sec. 102 Conditions for patentability; novelty and loss of right to patent)
A person shall be entitled to a patent unless -
(b) the invention was patented or described in a printed publication in this or a foreign country or in public use or on sale in this country, more than one year prior to the date of the application for patent in the United States
So, the inventor has 1 year after the announcement.
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It seems to be a collection of very old stuff, that has been floating the net for many years
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Exactly.. It obviously tries to collect all that kind of humorous stuff in to one place. Definitely a page to bookmark and read when you're bored..
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One aspect of OpenSSH that many people should like is that the most recent security hole in ssh-1.2.27 was non-existant in OpenSSH. For that reason alone, OpenSSH might be a better choice -- especially with the lack of developer news concerning ssh1 and ssh2.
Does that mean that OpenSSH would be more secure? I don't think so. The fact that it didn't have the bug which was in ssh-1.2.27 does not mean that it wouldn't have bugs which don't exist in ssh. The fact that there haven't been so many OpenSSH bugs in public simply means that it isn't as widely used as ssh. Widely used == widely tested.
Repeat after me: There is no bug-free software! (and ssh is actually really good; I can only remember two "public" bugs in it in the last year or so, compare to e.g. browsers..)
On the other hand, it might be possible that OpenSSH would respond faster to security bugs; If it becomes really popular, time will tell.
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As far as Windows is concerned, I the boundaries are harder to see -- isn't the GUI part of the kernel? Whatever, notepad.exe is on the CD, and that is not part of the OS.
You can run Windows in it's dos mode, without the GUI. It clearly isn't a part of the kernel. Is it a part of the operating system is another question. And is Windows really an operating system is still another. (My opinions: No and no).
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Not that these kind of articles/questions bother me much, but I have always said Windows 95 is an application an not an OS. Same goes for NT. Perhaps the package includes a kernel and so on, but most of it is actually fancy packaging rather than anything else.
Why is NT not an Operating System? Win 95 and Win 98 are clearly applications which run on top of MS-DOS, but NT doesn't run on top of anything..
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I would say that the Operating System is the very core of what's running on your system. The barest minimum without which nothing would run.
That part of the OS is called the kernel.
That's about how I'd define operating system. (The kernel + required applications to run programs.).
It does not include a browser, text editor, compiler or even the GUI (sorry Bill).
This is a more tricky part. Which applications are required? I'd include some sort of text editor at least. I mean, edlin is definitely a part of MS-DOS, just as vi is a part of any "standard" unix operating system. GUI might be part of an operating system - if the OS can't be run without it, or if the GUI can't be changed. Linux can't really be used if there is no compiler, therefore I'd say gcc is a part of GNU/Linux.--
And is this patent worldwide? (If it is, then surely other countries should have some say in the matter).
No. Patents only apply in the countries they were granted. US Patent Office's patents only apply in the US, and if there is no patent granted here in Finland we can do whatever we want. (At least as long as we don't come and sell our product in the US that is).
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The difference is that it can do more things at once because of all the processors involved. Does it make your laptop look slow? Hell no, because if you had ASCI Red, you wouldn't have any apps that take advantage of its parallelism to run on it anyway.
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It should be quite easy to port distributed.net client to the operating system ASCI Red runs. It would really crack RC5 fast
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Namely, this is perhaps the first time in history when Microsoft actually had a patch for a new exploit *before it was released to the public*!! Yes, that's right, this email virus works in exactly the same manner as one of those web-page exploits a couple months back, for which MS has had a critical update patch on Windows Update for several weeks now.
Well, another IE bug was posted on the bugtraq, was it yesterday? I wonder who'll be the first: Microsoft releasing a patch, or someone coding an email virus using that hole..
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What exactly is the big deal about speeds in the GHz? May be a mile stone, but it's only logical progression.
:-), 30MHz, 40MHz, 100MHz, 200MHz, 300MHz, 400MHz, 500MHz and 700MHz. 2GHz will also be a big deal :-)
It's the same big deal as with 10MHz (those 12MHz AT clones were "way cool"
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That's 4.8 mbps, I'm impressed, although you'll forgive me if I'm still a bit skeptical.
Yes, of course you are as you're supposed to be; But let me state some facts:
First of all, I wrote "up to" - that means that this is the best I've got so far. Of course it's only possible in the middle of the night when there aren't many others using the same cable..
On the other hand there are two things that makes the things a bit different between Lappeenranta (which is a small town in the middle of nowhere) and the big cities in USA (or even in Helsinki, which of course is still a small city in the USA scale..); Here we don't have that many users on this cable (this will of course change when more and more people get a cable modem; currently most of hardcore Internet users in Lappeenranta are already hooked to the 10Mbps campus network). And (this is very strongly linked to the previous statement) our modems are not limited to a certain bandwidth as most of the cable modem providers in USA do (at least not at the same amount; of course it would be technically impossible to get more than 10Mbps..).
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I think my basement is more wired than 90% of the slashdot readership - but I'm not going to go out of my way to highlight this fact.
/., here it's really possible to get up to 600kB/s from the network (and that's kilobytes, not kilobits)). But that's what one really needs in a home computer now-a-days imho (at least if one doesn't play computer games, which of course require the fastest machine you can buy + a bit more). :-)
Well, for starters I don't even have basement. But anyway, I'm sure my home is less wired than 90% of the slashdot readers' homes. The reason? Well, to be honest, I get enough of computers at home and at school, and 1 (yes, one!) computer is enough for me to run my irc and to let me read my email and to browse slahsdot. Can you believe it? I really don't need any more than just one computer at a time! And now comes the really spooky part: It's only a 133MHz Pentium! Geez. Still, it does everything I need it to do for me; IRC runs just fine, netscape runs even quite fast, it plays mp3s quite nicely, and I have no problems at all running StarOffice of Word Perfect with it. You probably think that it's impossible with such an old relic.. Well, actually, not everything is pre-historical in this computer; it has a quite modern cable modem Internet connection, which is probably quite much faster than your cable modems in the USA (at least if compared to the stories I keep reading in
Pheef.. enough rant for now
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Actually, you're funny :-) Even though Bill wouldn't like your post..
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Using the network card MAC address as part of the IPv6 address is only one way of setting up the global IPv6 addresses (it's unmanaged autoconfiguration used by rtadvd). Alternatives are manual configuration or using DHCP with IPv6 extension.
It's also possible to use the IPv6 stateless manager autoconfiguration (without DHCP) using an interface identifier that changes over time. It's documented in draft-ietf-ipngwg-addrconf-privacy-00.txt. A must read before starting complaints like this.
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What possible reason should I give a damn? Netscape 4.x is a fat, bloated, buggy and badly designed piece of crap. Me, I still use 3.04. Pages that require 4.x, don't bother to read them.
I thought so too for a long time. Then for I decided to try netscape 4.x - just for fun. After a little browsing (with top sitting next to netscape) I noticed that it actually took less memory than 3.x, it was about the same speed and it rendered the pages far better. I suggest you go ahead and try it too (I know the package is a big one, but it's definitely worth it unless you have a 2400bps modem).
P.S. I have a P133, so I really do care if a program is faster than another one.
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Incidentally, how come other major contributors to UNIX and Linux development (Rob Pike immediately comes to mind, as he only has a B.S. yet is a full research MTS at Bell Labs) haven't been conferred such honors? Why? Publicity. Hype. Lobbying. That's about it.
That's just the normal Swedish habit of stealing everything from us.. Now they are trying to steal Linus from Finns!
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