Again, from MICROSOFTS VIEWPOINT, why would they want 'newbies' to be able to easily dual boot?
Most of the people who replied to me failed to notice the 'Devil's Advocate' part of my post. Put yourself in the shoes of a publically traded company out to make a profit, not in the shoes of a user.
Just to play Devil's Advocate here, but why SHOULD they facilitate the use of other OS'es? Look at the customers who make up 99% of their base:
1. Home users who buy a machine with Windows pre installed. No worries about dual boot here. 2. Corporate users who load a custom Windows image on new machines. No worries about dual boot here either.
ALSO, if it really is just an image it would be a simple matter to just load it onto a partition then setup dual boot using GRUB. Anyone who feels they NEED dual boot probably already knows how to do it. Most modern Linux distros do a pretty good job of it for newbs too.
Very very very few people NEED dual boot. Some do. Most do not. From Microsoft's point of view, why should they facilitate it when the people who really NEED it (i.e. developers) will have no problem either setting up dual boot or using virtualization?
Personally I'd like more detail too. This was really just a fluff piece, if that. I'm particularly interested in how neuroscience is helping to dispel the previous 'conventional wisdom'.
That's funny. I just watched Nickleback's 'Savin Me' video and I was actually surprised. It loaded and played instantly. There was one small skip in the first 20 seconds, the rest played flawlessly.
Addressed somewhat in the article (yes I actually read it).
Scientists had previously thought that these traits evolved together as primates used their hands and eyes to grab insects, or pick fruit or to swing through trees, but recent discoveries from neuroscience are casting doubt on these theories.
HP didn't even develop the Service Desk component of Service Center (yes I was referring to that particular subset of functionality). They bought it, like much of their other tech.
Not at all a good idea, nor where things will be heading except in the embedded market perhaps. Not only would it reduce yields enormously because of the larger die size, but it would also put two points of failure into one chip, AND make it much harder to upgrade just one component.
I could see this perhaps in the mobile/embedded market, but not in the server/workstation space. At least not for a LONG time. It's just not a good idea.
Eh, I've used a lot of different ones. They all suck and you'll hate them all. Again, that's mostly in the (Half assed) way they are implemented at most organizations.
HP's Service Center. While I hated using it, that was more the way it was implemented in the enterprise I was in at the time. Built from the ground up for ITIL compliance.
Note I said 'relatively' few. There is no denying where current market share lies. I run Linux on several of my desktops, but neither one of us is a representative sample of the vast majority of computer users.
For me, running xp in linux, with a performance loss of say, 5-10% is a dream come true. Won't it happen? When it happens, would not it create a huge impact in virtualization market?
It won't have a huge impact, because relatively few people run Linux on the desktop. I don't expect that there would be a huge shift in market share based just on widely available virtualization.
Add to the lack of support the fact that most machines we are talking about are old and slow by today's standards. Modern Windows OSes won't run well if at all on many of them. Linux is a natural choice, so this 'analysis' is fairly obvious and not really news per se. Linux can run quite well on marginal hardware, and is available basically for free, or a small fee if the user(s) want support.
He did something stupid like that to make his job easier?? All those obstacles he didn't like would have just taken more of his (billable) time! What right minded consultant doesn't LOVE things that take more time??? Bah. Wannabe.
Funny, but most electrical energy in the US comes from coal mined here in the US. Now, driving your CAR supports mideast oil barons. Easy solution...drill off the East and West Coast as well as in Alaska.
Did anyone else read this and think 'Gee, go figure. A more powerful system needs more electricity.' Sounds like non-news to me.
Lawyers fees for what? This policy might be wrong headed, but if someone puts something in public webspace they need to be willing to handle any consequences of such actions. Schools have no requirement to LET anyone participate in extra curricular activities. That's how they justify drug testing too.
Again, I also disagree with this. It's not the business of the government (read: public schools). Still, I doubt anything actionable in court will come of it.
If you'd read the actual article you wouldn't ask that question. Most of the steps they've taken are designed to keep the execution units busy and minimize stalls. How well it will work will be determined when we see real silicon.
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Again, from MICROSOFTS VIEWPOINT, why would they want 'newbies' to be able to easily dual boot?
Most of the people who replied to me failed to notice the 'Devil's Advocate' part of my post. Put yourself in the shoes of a publically traded company out to make a profit, not in the shoes of a user.
Just to play Devil's Advocate here, but why SHOULD they facilitate the use of other OS'es? Look at the customers who make up 99% of their base:
1. Home users who buy a machine with Windows pre installed. No worries about dual boot here.
2. Corporate users who load a custom Windows image on new machines. No worries about dual boot here either.
ALSO, if it really is just an image it would be a simple matter to just load it onto a partition then setup dual boot using GRUB. Anyone who feels they NEED dual boot probably already knows how to do it. Most modern Linux distros do a pretty good job of it for newbs too.
Very very very few people NEED dual boot. Some do. Most do not. From Microsoft's point of view, why should they facilitate it when the people who really NEED it (i.e. developers) will have no problem either setting up dual boot or using virtualization?
It has zero to do with consoles. Consoles do not make any significant money for chip makers. Consoles make money for game publishers.
It has *everything* to do with wanted ATI's technology and intellectual property, for reasons already covered elsewhere in other people's comments.
Personally I'd like more detail too. This was really just a fluff piece, if that. I'm particularly interested in how neuroscience is helping to dispel the previous 'conventional wisdom'.
That's funny. I just watched Nickleback's 'Savin Me' video and I was actually surprised. It loaded and played instantly. There was one small skip in the first 20 seconds, the rest played flawlessly.
HP didn't even develop the Service Desk component of Service Center (yes I was referring to that particular subset of functionality). They bought it, like much of their other tech.
Not at all a good idea, nor where things will be heading except in the embedded market perhaps. Not only would it reduce yields enormously because of the larger die size, but it would also put two points of failure into one chip, AND make it much harder to upgrade just one component.
I could see this perhaps in the mobile/embedded market, but not in the server/workstation space. At least not for a LONG time. It's just not a good idea.
Eh, I've used a lot of different ones. They all suck and you'll hate them all. Again, that's mostly in the (Half assed) way they are implemented at most organizations.
HP's Service Center. While I hated using it, that was more the way it was implemented in the enterprise I was in at the time. Built from the ground up for ITIL compliance.
Note I said 'relatively' few. There is no denying where current market share lies. I run Linux on several of my desktops, but neither one of us is a representative sample of the vast majority of computer users.
For me, running xp in linux, with a performance loss of say, 5-10% is a dream come true. Won't it happen? When it happens, would not it create a huge impact in virtualization market?
It won't have a huge impact, because relatively few people run Linux on the desktop. I don't expect that there would be a huge shift in market share based just on widely available virtualization.
Add to the lack of support the fact that most machines we are talking about are old and slow by today's standards. Modern Windows OSes won't run well if at all on many of them. Linux is a natural choice, so this 'analysis' is fairly obvious and not really news per se. Linux can run quite well on marginal hardware, and is available basically for free, or a small fee if the user(s) want support.
Nothing really to see here. Move along.
He did something stupid like that to make his job easier?? All those obstacles he didn't like would have just taken more of his (billable) time! What right minded consultant doesn't LOVE things that take more time??? Bah. Wannabe.
When exactly are Mom and Pop going to install Windows? They aren't. They'll buy a new PC with a newer OS eventually.
Odds are good that GM seeds are included in this vault. These are crop seeds, not seeds of naturally occuring plants.
Yes, having kids learn how to use the office software that has overwhelming market share is doing them *such* a disservice. (sarcasm here)
Funny, but most electrical energy in the US comes from coal mined here in the US. Now, driving your CAR supports mideast oil barons. Easy solution...drill off the East and West Coast as well as in Alaska.
Did anyone else read this and think 'Gee, go figure. A more powerful system needs more electricity.' Sounds like non-news to me.
Personally I'm waiting for Food Grade Linux.
Lawyers fees for what? This policy might be wrong headed, but if someone puts something in public webspace they need to be willing to handle any consequences of such actions. Schools have no requirement to LET anyone participate in extra curricular activities. That's how they justify drug testing too.
Again, I also disagree with this. It's not the business of the government (read: public schools). Still, I doubt anything actionable in court will come of it.
Slashdot give credit to the US government for anything? You must be new here :)
If you'd read the actual article you wouldn't ask that question. Most of the steps they've taken are designed to keep the execution units busy and minimize stalls. How well it will work will be determined when we see real silicon.
Seriously. I hear that they are going to use it with Duke Nukem Forever to fit all the map and texture data onto only 22 DVD's.
Of course, Apple has never done anything evil or unethical...like suing fan rumor sites...or shutting down clone makers...nah, you're so right.
That was sarcasm btw. I put Jobs and Gates in exactly the same ethical category. Low to none.
Like it or not the word piracy has picked up the added meaning of copyright infringement. Get over it.