The relationship between stupidity and violent or agressive behaviour. Or, closeley related, the relationship between hasty kneejerk reactionism and violent or agreesive behaviour.
Ironically, this was supposed to be a joke. <:o(
I failed to read the article, but from my own experience, I can say that I had way less of an urge to hurt real people when I have some bucket of bits to kick around.
PREFACE: I remember my intro into Linux back when win95 was in beta... WFW had gone tango-uniform for the nth time, or some other similarly aggrivating cruft... so I downloaded Slackware onto floppies and installed it. I've never looked back. So, I use Linux specifically because, well, I can!
ESR and the zelots who take up his arguments without careful consideration of the facts are rapidly making themselves a royal PITA. In case you haven't noticed, over one million copies of Windows 2000 have shipped since its introduction (real copies generating real revenue) and from my own experience, as well as that of others, it's pretty damn good. Good enough to make it easy to ignore Linux and all the stupid political baggage that it's acquired.
Frankly, it doesn't matter to me HOW many copies of win2k were "sold," or even "shipped." I quote both words because they're both very subjective, depending on the marketroid or cloobie you speak at. Units shipped/sold doesn't prove to me in the least that it's a better product.
As for political baggage, it can be argued that plenty of the proprietary kind of political baggage is installed in a typical windows install with no choice. "Sure, let's convert the company to IIS; it was free with the OS!... or did they build it in this time?" It can also be debated that once you accept something (like windows, or even Linux) as a solution, all other alternatives cease to be evaluated. While with windows, there's no way to guarantee interoperability with everyone else, at least with Linux (or even a PROPRIETARY Unix), you have a good shot at keeping everyone happy, AND you can keep windows clients in places.
As for ESR not considering the facts... I tend to think he's a little more clued-in on the "political" aspect of this all... much moreso than I am.
Netscape 4.x (at least from 4.05 or so up) has NATIVE support for PNG!... try it
(inline as well as as images)
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*shrug*
No matter the version number, I know my routine:
Since I run some form of Unix, at least give the latest {netscape,opera,mozilla,...} a chance
Since MSIE isn't even available for the OS I usually use, prejudice or zealotry doesn't even get a shot at being a reason why I won't consider it (tho for {SunOS,HP-UX} the suckitude of MSIE hasn't personally been verified; no time at work)
When I run Windows, I always make sure it's outfitted with Opera (and perhaps netscape for javascript weirdness)
If I can get my hands on any other browser for Win32, go give it a spin; hell, it'll at least be different
No mater what, MSIE has already made my mind up, years ago. O had a big say in nailing the IE coffin shut and shoveling the dirt into the hole.:o)
*whew* A rather lengthy way of saying that MS taught me many years ago to disregard versioning.
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The Dxr2 code has one problem: you have to somehow locate Dxr2 hardware... Don't they have the Dxr3 out, which is incompatible with this?
The only reason Creative are making this and Jack not having a hissy about is is that the legal gray area parts (CSS, etc) are done in that little PCI card.
it is far easier for a normal user to have their browser as part of the OS than it is to have it as a separate application.
That's arguable. There IS a fact that goes with this that CANNOT be argued, however, and that is that there's no choice to get rid of the "browser" that's "a part of the OS" and replace it with a browser that I want.
If we had a choice as to whether or not to enable the drool-proof paper (aside from the omnipresent "Don't use the OS, then, stupid!" choice) piece of it, I don't think there would be nearly as much ado about it.
Well, I disagree with your disagreement. You're out of order, bub.:o)
I happen to love pizza best when it's the next day's meals, straight from the fridge... see, the thing is, I get to be incredibly lazy AND save electricity for other, much more important uses... such as keeping my apartment cool.
(second post!... wait, I type too slow; I'll be #25 at this rate. nutbunnies.)
but let's face it, it's the TCO that counts in these matters.
... which, to be frank, isn't any LESS for that software maker with the window flag. Of course, look at the big gaping hole in my facts:o)
they would cost far more in wages than the equivalent professionals, MSCEs.
an MCSE that actually knows what they're doing with the products they're charged with supporting is arguably as expensive.
how long would it take for them to get a system up and running?
*shrug* a couple hours, if you do it by hand? Things can most certainly be automated.
staff training costs would again be enormous.
"staff training costs" are enormous, no matter how you cut it. Training is most certainly not free or costs less than Linux training... it just happens that MS training exists, and Linux training generally does not.
there's the image issue
Here's an image issue for you: Since there's a program called l0phtcrack out there, which only happens to work on NT/LANMAN hashes, and works pretty dang well, NT could possibly be used for "criminal activity." Also, the decss code was originally developed on a windows box. All that's needed to assess this is a bit of intelligence. Too bad your average Joe can't be bothered to use his brain.
I do look down on most civil disobedience because there are better ways to go about making a change happen, specifically when dealing with the US government.
Such as what? Letter campaigns are more ineffective than violence, afaik... and probably make us look just as stupid in the lawmakers' eyes.
I remember coming to the internet about 7yr ago and reading FAQs and such... then it came time for me to apply my wisdom... Boy, was I mistaken that guidelines would be heeded.
I wonder if NSI's "reserve ALL TLDs with your name on them!" marketing could have just a little to do with the squatting thing, or the inappropriateness of others' domain names (ie, a for-profit.org)... It's a wonder that the.edu space is still straight.
(heh... I recently got marketing from NSI telling me I should "register.NET and.ORG versions of your domain" too...)
"Thanks for Nothing?" Sorry to be replying to a post i can see instead of the original, but...
I think this is rather cool of them to do. When I first started using ksh for real, I was already ingrained in bash. I spent countless days swearing at "that infernal ksh piece of crap..." Once I learned how bash stuff could be done in ksh, the swearing was over.
The things I miss that are in bash are:
no !$ substitute! ($_ seems to be the ksh equiv)
no arrow history! (i use vi mode...)
no tab completion! (pdksh's vi-tabcomplete mode is heaven, tho)
There're prolly a few more, but those are the most nagging. Doesn't stop me from being productive with "plain" ksh...
I lost a lot when I moved to Linux. My games don't work any more. My scanner doesn't work. My printer doesn't work (bad Hewlet Packard!).
Depending on scanner type, there's a program called SANE that'll let you use the scanner in Linux. My UMAX Astra 1200S (SCSI scanner) works fine under SANE. xscanimage even works as a GIMP plugin.
For printing, if you have an inkjet like the HP 722c I have, use PPA to get it working (NOW DOES COLOUR!).
My hatred of Microsoft products comes from hard, painful experience.
This is why I went to Linux from WFW instead of to win95.
YES, the fonts for the/. headings are HIDEOUS. Other fonts are OK... I've made my font server prefer 100dpi fonts, btw. netscape looks great; M14 renders some fonts all whacked.
Other than that, everything seems to look good, and it feels a bit snappier UI-wise than M13. (No "middle button fires link in new browser" fix, tho... argh)
It can be argued that if the sysadmin isn't up to putting the effort into it to get an acceptable solution (ie, not treating the symptoms by blocking all ports, just "because it's easy"), s/he prolly:
is underpaid
is overworked
if neither of the above, should be fired anyway
Maintaining the network is fun, yes... however, to do it right takes a lot of effort. I should know; I'm in it.
For example, I probably add/remove ten DNS records in a given week -- I'd rather have a GUI to do it.
Yes, a graphic zone editor would be nice, and seeing how it's Unix-like, you can always go to the zone itself with vi when troubleshooting is necessary. (Actually, a graphic "This name goes to this IP, now do the work" tool, but...)
an either/or situation.
I've always viewed this as a "both" situation, even when I was totally on win3/DOS. Just like I always had a command line up in windows, I started using X to display xterms (and netscape). The number of graphic apps I run has increased since 1995, but I still have 10 Eterms to do the bulk of my work in.
But yeah, 5 feet away from my monitor and they could STILL change the colours!
I magnetised a screwdriver with one of these actuator magnets, and I could get the monitor to go psychadelic from a few feet away. I think I can pick up this RJ45 crimper with it, too.
(It's a wonder that the data on any of the 25 or so floppies piled on my desk is still intact, but...)
"latency" in regards to hard drives is defined as "the time it takes for the platter to turn 0.5 revolution." Using this definition, latency is inversely proportional to the spindle speed.
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I can't count the number of times that I've either read about or met folks who think the command line should die. Now, I'm all for a "seamless interface" or whatever, but if I can't revert to my X (not a GUI) with afterstep and 15 Eterms (or whatever term works this week), I'll be deeply saddened. I'm not saying a decent "drool-proof paper" type interface isn't a good goal to shoot for. I am saying that limiting choices in the spirit of consistency/friendliness/etc isn't such a hot idea.
Folks like Apple and Be already have solved the UI problem resonably well, imho. Due to the abundance of choice in Linux, and the backlash that will be generated if the choices are whittled down to 1, I think there'll be room for all of us. After all, the only "Human Interface Guideline" a given user has to follow is that of their own preference. Too bad it's not nearly as simple for the developer, who is charged with making the best choice.
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Ironically, this was supposed to be a joke. <:o(
I failed to read the article, but from my own experience, I can say that I had way less of an urge to hurt real people when I have some bucket of bits to kick around.
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but "/" is banned by RFC, and "." as the trailing char on a domain is already implicit. "Invalid domain," basically.
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ESR and the zelots who take up his arguments without careful consideration of the facts are rapidly making themselves a royal PITA. In case you haven't noticed, over one million copies of Windows 2000 have shipped since its introduction (real copies generating real revenue) and from my own experience, as well as that of others, it's pretty damn good. Good enough to make it easy to ignore Linux and all the stupid political baggage that it's acquired.
Frankly, it doesn't matter to me HOW many copies of win2k were "sold," or even "shipped." I quote both words because they're both very subjective, depending on the marketroid or cloobie you speak at. Units shipped/sold doesn't prove to me in the least that it's a better product.
As for political baggage, it can be argued that plenty of the proprietary kind of political baggage is installed in a typical windows install with no choice. "Sure, let's convert the company to IIS; it was free with the OS! ... or did they build it in this time?" It can also be debated that once you accept something (like windows, or even Linux) as a solution, all other alternatives cease to be evaluated. While with windows, there's no way to guarantee interoperability with everyone else, at least with Linux (or even a PROPRIETARY Unix), you have a good shot at keeping everyone happy, AND you can keep windows clients in places.
As for ESR not considering the facts... I tend to think he's a little more clued-in on the "political" aspect of this all... much moreso than I am.
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It can be argued that Apple already HAS said marketshare if you only consider the video market.
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No matter the version number, I know my routine:
- Since I run some form of Unix, at least give the latest {netscape,opera,mozilla,...} a chance
- Since MSIE isn't even available for the OS I usually use, prejudice or zealotry doesn't even get a shot at being a reason why I won't consider it (tho for {SunOS,HP-UX} the suckitude of MSIE hasn't personally been verified; no time at work)
- When I run Windows, I always make sure it's outfitted with Opera (and perhaps netscape for javascript weirdness)
- If I can get my hands on any other browser for Win32, go give it a spin; hell, it'll at least be different
No mater what, MSIE has already made my mind up, years ago. O had a big say in nailing the IE coffin shut and shoveling the dirt into the hole.*whew* A rather lengthy way of saying that MS taught me many years ago to disregard versioning.
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The only reason Creative are making this and Jack not having a hissy about is is that the legal gray area parts (CSS, etc) are done in that little PCI card.
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* Yakko is suddenly beaten over the head with a large rubber chicken.
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it is far easier for a normal user to have their browser as part of the OS than it is to have it as a separate application.
That's arguable. There IS a fact that goes with this that CANNOT be argued, however, and that is that there's no choice to get rid of the "browser" that's "a part of the OS" and replace it with a browser that I want.
If we had a choice as to whether or not to enable the drool-proof paper (aside from the omnipresent "Don't use the OS, then, stupid!" choice) piece of it, I don't think there would be nearly as much ado about it.
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I happen to love pizza best when it's the next day's meals, straight from the fridge... see, the thing is, I get to be incredibly lazy AND save electricity for other, much more important uses... such as keeping my apartment cool.
(second post! ... wait, I type too slow; I'll be #25 at this rate. nutbunnies.)
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they would cost far more in wages than the equivalent professionals, MSCEs.
an MCSE that actually knows what they're doing with the products they're charged with supporting is arguably as expensive.
how long would it take for them to get a system up and running?
*shrug* a couple hours, if you do it by hand? Things can most certainly be automated.
staff training costs would again be enormous.
"staff training costs" are enormous, no matter how you cut it. Training is most certainly not free or costs less than Linux training... it just happens that MS training exists, and Linux training generally does not.
there's the image issue
Here's an image issue for you: Since there's a program called l0phtcrack out there, which only happens to work on NT/LANMAN hashes, and works pretty dang well, NT could possibly be used for "criminal activity." Also, the decss code was originally developed on a windows box. All that's needed to assess this is a bit of intelligence. Too bad your average Joe can't be bothered to use his brain.
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Do you want a flame war, or a CONSENSUS? :o)
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Such as what? Letter campaigns are more ineffective than violence, afaik... and probably make us look just as stupid in the lawmakers' eyes.
I hope I'm wrong, but I'm not a bit optimistic.
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Star Office!
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Hrrm... with it doing things on me like disregarding margins in saved docs and other rendering nonsense, I can see where you're coming from, actually.
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(Hell, it's a dream, after all...)
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I wonder if NSI's "reserve ALL TLDs with your name on them!" marketing could have just a little to do with the squatting thing, or the inappropriateness of others' domain names (ie, a for-profit .org) ... It's a wonder that the .edu space is still straight.
(heh... I recently got marketing from NSI telling me I should "register .NET and .ORG versions of your domain" too...)
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I think this is rather cool of them to do. When I first started using ksh for real, I was already ingrained in bash. I spent countless days swearing at "that infernal ksh piece of crap..." Once I learned how bash stuff could be done in ksh, the swearing was over.
The things I miss that are in bash are:
- no !$ substitute! ($_ seems to be the ksh equiv)
- no arrow history! (i use vi mode...)
- no tab completion! (pdksh's vi-tabcomplete mode is heaven, tho)
There're prolly a few more, but those are the most nagging. Doesn't stop me from being productive with "plain" ksh...--
Depending on scanner type, there's a program called SANE that'll let you use the scanner in Linux. My UMAX Astra 1200S (SCSI scanner) works fine under SANE. xscanimage even works as a GIMP plugin.
For printing, if you have an inkjet like the HP 722c I have, use PPA to get it working (NOW DOES COLOUR!).
My hatred of Microsoft products comes from hard, painful experience.
This is why I went to Linux from WFW instead of to win95.
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Other than that, everything seems to look good, and it feels a bit snappier UI-wise than M13. (No "middle button fires link in new browser" fix, tho... argh)
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It can be argued that if the sysadmin isn't up to putting the effort into it to get an acceptable solution (ie, not treating the symptoms by blocking all ports, just "because it's easy"), s/he prolly:
- is underpaid
- is overworked
- if neither of the above, should be fired anyway
Maintaining the network is fun, yes... however, to do it right takes a lot of effort. I should know; I'm in it.--
Yes, a graphic zone editor would be nice, and seeing how it's Unix-like, you can always go to the zone itself with vi when troubleshooting is necessary. (Actually, a graphic "This name goes to this IP, now do the work" tool, but...)
an either/or situation.
I've always viewed this as a "both" situation, even when I was totally on win3/DOS. Just like I always had a command line up in windows, I started using X to display xterms (and netscape). The number of graphic apps I run has increased since 1995, but I still have 10 Eterms to do the bulk of my work in.
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I magnetised a screwdriver with one of these actuator magnets, and I could get the monitor to go psychadelic from a few feet away. I think I can pick up this RJ45 crimper with it, too.
(It's a wonder that the data on any of the 25 or so floppies piled on my desk is still intact, but...)
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"latency" in regards to hard drives is defined as "the time it takes for the platter to turn 0.5 revolution." Using this definition, latency is inversely proportional to the spindle speed.
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Folks like Apple and Be already have solved the UI problem resonably well, imho. Due to the abundance of choice in Linux, and the backlash that will be generated if the choices are whittled down to 1, I think there'll be room for all of us. After all, the only "Human Interface Guideline" a given user has to follow is that of their own preference. Too bad it's not nearly as simple for the developer, who is charged with making the best choice.
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- Apple protects its trademark
- Authors of the 2 themes that were pulled turn around and release non-offending themes
- We're all happy again
I'll give this whole deal maybe a couple days to go thru fully. *shrug*--