That was my first thought until I read more closely... this thing purportedly won't absorb the water, only the contaminants within. So, unlike ShamWow, you could put a load of this material in a lake without soaking up the entire lake.
My laptop now is my mobile phone. It's enough to watch movies with headphones in the bed, on the toilet or outside. And if I want more, I always have my full home cinema, server and workstation at home.
Wow, I've never seen anyone who takes their porn so seriously.
Even outside, you say? Glad I'm not your neighbour...
Okay so let me get this straight... show a company you hate their product by creating more demand for it? Does nobody participating understand economics?!? Well don't be surprised when they jack up your rates again and cite "increased network demand" as the reason. Keep at it at you might get to have the same high rates we have here in Canada.
I wasn't pushed out of IT but about a year after starting my first job after grad I was pushed out of software development into a support role. At the time I went along, more out of fear of my job than anything else, but also because I didn't know any better. Ironically, I got so depressed in the support role that I eventually started looking for new work. And I loved the company I worked for too - good industry, respected company - so even thinking of leaving them was gut-wrenching.
They finally moved me back to my original development role at the last minute (I had another offer on the table) but it never did sit well with the management, who was unfortunately rather clueless about IT to begin with. A year later they outsourced their software development to India and I was told they "could not find a new role for me", which was very suspicious because there were numerous BA positions listed as vacant at the time I departed. However I did at least get severance.
So, to answer the question, no. If you resist, be prepared to start looking elsewhere. Also, be careful you aren't turning in your resignation by saying no: in many places if you turn down a promotion or lateral move you are deemed to have quit voluntarily and are thus not eligible for severance, options, or anything else. So one option might be to try it - it's possible you might like it, and if not at least it will buy you time to find something new.
P.S. That's the bad news of my story... the good news is I eventually realised that towing corporate lines wasn't for me, went into contracting, and now I make a whole lot more money exclusively doing something I really enjoy. I realise not everyone is that fortunate, but sometimes good things do come out of these situations.
If you like 400-character lines, maybe you're special, or maybe you simply don't know any better.
Actually it's the exact opposite: I used to use a non-maximized browser window exclusively, and the constant resizing was the exact problem I ran into. I even got a handy add-on for Firefox that allows quick resizing to predefined window sizes, but eventually just found that running maximized was on the whole far less frustrating.
One possible explanation is that the time I started really heavily using the web was right around when the "standard" monitor resolution (finally) began to migrate from 640x480 up towards (eventually) 1024x768, where webpage target sizes were all over the map for quite some time. There's probably a lot less variance now. (Though as widescreen monitors gain usage that may start to change again...)
I really do prefer the long lines though. I have no doubt you're right that most people don't, but some people can just cope with certain visual things more easily I guess. As another example, I've seen a number of people over the years who flat out prefer their screen font sizes to be unusually small.
That all being said, in the interest of keeping an open mind I tried browsing some of my regular sites in a window (of roughly 1024x768) and admittedly didn't mind it. The only place it was a problem was, ironically, on the Slashdot main page! The Slashboxes take up too much width relative to the stories. On the comments pages it's fine though.
Back in the old (3.x) days of Windows it was much more common to have actual windows. Then MDI came along and limited you to moving docs within the space of the parent window, so the only thing was to maximize the Window if you wanted to compare docs. Then toolbar and menu bloat came along so if your window wasn't maximized you couldn't see half the commands. So now I think it's probably more habit than anything else.
Also I disagree with you. I find Slashdot and most other pages (as well as any app with lots of text like a word processor or IDE) much easier to read in a full window. More text on screen means it's easier to visually scan back to something if needed. Plus the problem with sizing your web browser is every page is designed for a different size. Even if a page is well-designed and doesn't assume a fixed width, there is still a certain width that each page needs to be to be reasonably readable, and that varies. Constantly resizing and repositioning a window is infuriating. True when it's maximized there is wasted space but at least the page will be readable.
Besides, damnit, I paid for dual wide-screen monitors and I'm not afraid to use them!
I suffer from depression and I also have supplemental health insurance with Manulife. Obviously I am calling them tomorrow to cancel.
A few years ago they funded 6 weeks off work for my depression. Now I am hoping there aren't any photos of me floating around the net from that time, otherwise they might come around demanding that money back!
At my old job we started using CruiseControl.NET + svn (using TortoiseSVN on Windows) 5 years ago - back when the first version of TFS couldn't even get basic checkins right - and it was fabulous. Way ahead of its time. Now my current job uses TFS and granted it's pretty good (but don't touch any version before 2008 Server!), however you can still do just mostly the same thing with CC+svn for something like $1500/dev less. The reduced setup work and learning curve and VS integration is why companies like TFS, but if cost is your biggest concern then there are certainly other options.
I am watching CNN because I expect them to gather the news
Really? You must have just woken up from a prolonged coma, because CNN hasn't done that with any kind of respectability for the past 8 years, 2 months, and 1 day.
Haha, had to laugh at that phrasing. Although I was around for the era where 50kbps would have qualified as a pipe, by today's standards it is more of a drinking straw... and a really thin one at that!
Ah ha! First we get the story about the airline pilots who got off course because they supposedly pulled out their laptops in the cabin, and now, just hours later, we get a story about laptop fires on airplanes.
Conclusion: The pilots' laptops burst into flame and they got lost because too busy dealing with the fire!
No way. Mistakes that can or do cost lives cannot be left to pass. Obviously there are huge financial and legal concerns from doing so, but to me it comes down to something much more basic: If we start equating the nerd in his parents' basement who goofs and wipes out his HD full of porn with the pilot in the air who goofs and kills 300 people (or 30, or 3, or even 0 if it still put lives at risk) then we effectively say those lives don't matter. In other words, we have clearly lost all regard for life, no matter how much we may claim to value it.
The only way to show we care about life is to never allow a second chance to those who have failed when entrusted with the responsibilities of safety, no matter how accidental the violation. If we claim to value life above all else then the risk of doing is simply too great.
And getting fired does not mean you stop living. If it truly was an innocent mistake then these pilots can be permitted to continue to live and work freely elsewhere just like anybody else, except never again can they be trusted with anyone's safety.
Forgiveness is fine on a personal level, but as a society we simply don't have the luxury.
P.S. I've been saying for years we need to start treating motor vehicle operation the same way as flying for exactly the same reason: lives are constantly at risk! The number of lives involved may be less at any given time but the responsibility is just as great.
Yeah, and if an instrument fails, or a storm suddenly diverts into its path, or you hit a flock of birds, or another airplane is experiencing trouble and on a collision course, then the plane will fly itself (and you, if you are unlucky enough to be a passenger) into oblivion. It may be unlikely, but try telling that to the victims' families when it does happen.
Weird stuff occurs in the air way more often than one might think BTW. In the vast majority of cases it passes without the passengers ever noticing... because there are trained pilots there to handle it immediately. Modern APs have existed for like 30 years... if flying were straightforward enough to be automated all the time they would have phased out human pilots long ago.
Incidentally, I used to develop software for a railway and would have not only expected but indeed fully endorsed nothing less than termination if a programming mistake made by myself or one of my colleagues put lives at risk.
Nearly everything that ATC says is safety related. There is no chit-chat.
This is not quite true. On one leg of my last trip I was listening to the ATC feed they offer through the in-flight headphones and at one point a pilot and ATC had a bit of a chat. It sounded as though they knew each other in person... there were some greetings and then somehow they got talking about a certain type of old prop plane.
So chit-chat does occur. However, that being said, it was brief (2-3 minutes maybe) and was the only significant occurrence of such during 3 hours in the air.
That's the main goal - make it functional and easy to use, free and easy to install for as many people as possible. Those who need to can "escape" to the more advanced options. Being different for the sake of being different would be a terrible mistake.
I replied elsewhere on the specifics about My Documents, but this bit caught my I because I actually totally agree with it. Indeed, I wasn't advocating being different for the heck of it, but rather not being the same for the sake of being the same. In other words, don't blindly copy the more questionable features of Windows along with the good ones just to keep a familiar user experience. Instead, take the good stuff from Windows and the good stuff from Linux and integrate them, and where they don't mesh very well then find new approaches. The problem -- and I say this generally and not as an accusation pointed at Ubuntu or anyone else -- is that it's much easier and quicker to copy rather than innovate.
Having a Documents folder is fine but the way XP did it was terrible. Part of learning to use a computer is to learn to manage files and folders. The "My xxx" structure makes it hard to do this... it's hard to type into anything, and the way it's implemented even kinda hides the fact they're folders. The average user does understand files and folders but they don't necessarily immediately understand that their pictures in My Pictures are still just files in a folder and can be treated the same way. Also, XP treats My Documents as the user's home folder, even though it's not really so... the home folder is above it. Vista's structure didn't just remove "My", it fixed the structure to include a visible home folder...specifically it's C:\Users\username\{Documents,Pictures,Downloads,...}, which is also good for us techies as it's not buried deep in a long-named folder somewhere... it's very Unixy actually. I admittedly didn't look to see how Ubuntu does its My Documents behind the scenes but it turned me off instantly so I didn't particularly want to know.
For the root access thing, it isn't requiring root access that's my problem with UAC (and to a lesser extent with Ubuntu), it's the constant nagging and switching in and out of admin mode. The way it usually works is either you're admin and you can do whatever, or you're not and you can do nothing. Okay so for Linux we have sudo for a temporary admin, but that's intended to be consciously done up front. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to translate too well graphically. But UAC doesn't even try to teach the user that one thing should be done as admin and another not, it just nags the user about doing everything the least bit dangerous, then lets them do it if they say yes enough times. So for the average user I think it is better to enforce the old-fashioned "superuser" concept rather than allow slipping in and out.
I think IE started saving to desktop, and Firefox copied it. It is easy to turn off but most people don't. I've seen so many people whose desktops are full of a bunch of old junk files they never use anymore, and the worst part is that then they complain their computer is hard to use. In my book, any feature that encourages that kind of a mess shouldn't be emulated.
Okay I've been wanting to vent about this for a few weeks now and this seems to be as good a topic to write this in as any.
My first encounter with Ubuntu came when I recently installed Ubuntu Jaunty on a laptop for a club I belong to. The laptop's got an XP licence but we couldn't find a CD and the programs we need are available for Linux, so Ubuntu seemed like a good choice to get us up quickly. And it worked out fine: Install was simple and quick and the system looked good. The only tricky bit was figuring out the wireless setup but it wasn't too hard.
However I was utterly horrified to see that Ubuntu has also faithfully and I must say blindly replicated the most hideous features of Windows! The despicable "My Documents" folder structure was the first and most obvious. Say what you well about Vista, at least it fixed this into something less cumbersome and more sensible. Next was the constant prompting I got after doing almost every little thing. If I wanted that I'd have left UAC enabled on my Vista desktop. Then I find out Firefox was happily setup to save everything to the desktop by default. FOLDERS EXIST FOR A REASON!!!
Why why WHY are so many Linux folks trying to clone Windows when they dislike it so? It may be Linux and it may be free, but if it looks and acts like Windows then it's still an ugly mess. Here I thought Ubuntu would take the best features of Window and combine them with Linux, but instead all they did was turn Linux into a horrible disgusting Windows clone.
If a company knocks off another company's product we accuse them of stealing ideas. If someone releases some new program (open source or not) that replicates existing functionality we say "well why use yours when I can just use the original?" So why should we get all happy excited about Ubuntu when all it does is rip off Windows? To me that'd be the height of hypocrisy.
Mod me down, I don't care. I had to get this off my chest...
Definitely... I do.NET and after one experience with SharePoint I personally won't go near again, and I know several other decent-or-better developers who feel the same way. If it comes up during a job description or even an interview I will immediately stop and say "I'm afraid I don't do Sharepoint" and look for another contract. Even in this economy.
The worst part is that Sharepoint jobs actually pay a strong premium over standard.NET development because it's such a big mess and because so few people will actually touch it.
We weren't so lucky... last year the department head where I was happened to be quite keen on Second Life and managed to sell it as a good idea to the rest of the organization. So, while a major project was tied up in the initial phases and there was nothing else to do, several of us were assigned to work on a "presence" in SL. Quite a bit of work was done, but I can't tell you if it ever got out of the "concept" stage because I left that organization shortly after. (*gasp*, what a shocker!) And no I am sign up for Second Life myself just to find out!
Actually it was a good shop with a lot of bright people, just not enough work when I was there. Unfortunately that means the wacky ideas that should stay as pipe dreams actually become work and then Bad Things Happen.
Jeez dude, you might want to finally chuck those and free up a valuable bookcase or two! Although don't throw them out in one go, the landfills probably can't that much plastic at once.
Slashdot Mirror
That was my first thought until I read more closely... this thing purportedly won't absorb the water, only the contaminants within. So, unlike ShamWow, you could put a load of this material in a lake without soaking up the entire lake.
My laptop now is my mobile phone. It's enough to watch movies with headphones in the bed, on the toilet or outside. And if I want more, I always have my full home cinema, server and workstation at home.
Wow, I've never seen anyone who takes their porn so seriously.
Even outside, you say? Glad I'm not your neighbour...
Is there any way to mod the title to troll?
Make that -1, Belongs In Variety
Okay so let me get this straight... show a company you hate their product by creating more demand for it? Does nobody participating understand economics?!? Well don't be surprised when they jack up your rates again and cite "increased network demand" as the reason. Keep at it at you might get to have the same high rates we have here in Canada.
I hope it "suceeds."
Everybody sing along now: S-U-C-C-E-E-S! That's the way you spell success.
To celebrate,
Personally I think 1 billion spam isn't something to celebrate. "Mourn" is more like it...
I wasn't pushed out of IT but about a year after starting my first job after grad I was pushed out of software development into a support role. At the time I went along, more out of fear of my job than anything else, but also because I didn't know any better. Ironically, I got so depressed in the support role that I eventually started looking for new work. And I loved the company I worked for too - good industry, respected company - so even thinking of leaving them was gut-wrenching.
They finally moved me back to my original development role at the last minute (I had another offer on the table) but it never did sit well with the management, who was unfortunately rather clueless about IT to begin with. A year later they outsourced their software development to India and I was told they "could not find a new role for me", which was very suspicious because there were numerous BA positions listed as vacant at the time I departed. However I did at least get severance.
So, to answer the question, no. If you resist, be prepared to start looking elsewhere. Also, be careful you aren't turning in your resignation by saying no: in many places if you turn down a promotion or lateral move you are deemed to have quit voluntarily and are thus not eligible for severance, options, or anything else. So one option might be to try it - it's possible you might like it, and if not at least it will buy you time to find something new.
P.S. That's the bad news of my story... the good news is I eventually realised that towing corporate lines wasn't for me, went into contracting, and now I make a whole lot more money exclusively doing something I really enjoy. I realise not everyone is that fortunate, but sometimes good things do come out of these situations.
If you like 400-character lines, maybe you're special, or maybe you simply don't know any better.
Actually it's the exact opposite: I used to use a non-maximized browser window exclusively, and the constant resizing was the exact problem I ran into. I even got a handy add-on for Firefox that allows quick resizing to predefined window sizes, but eventually just found that running maximized was on the whole far less frustrating.
One possible explanation is that the time I started really heavily using the web was right around when the "standard" monitor resolution (finally) began to migrate from 640x480 up towards (eventually) 1024x768, where webpage target sizes were all over the map for quite some time. There's probably a lot less variance now. (Though as widescreen monitors gain usage that may start to change again...)
I really do prefer the long lines though. I have no doubt you're right that most people don't, but some people can just cope with certain visual things more easily I guess. As another example, I've seen a number of people over the years who flat out prefer their screen font sizes to be unusually small.
That all being said, in the interest of keeping an open mind I tried browsing some of my regular sites in a window (of roughly 1024x768) and admittedly didn't mind it. The only place it was a problem was, ironically, on the Slashdot main page! The Slashboxes take up too much width relative to the stories. On the comments pages it's fine though.
Back in the old (3.x) days of Windows it was much more common to have actual windows. Then MDI came along and limited you to moving docs within the space of the parent window, so the only thing was to maximize the Window if you wanted to compare docs. Then toolbar and menu bloat came along so if your window wasn't maximized you couldn't see half the commands. So now I think it's probably more habit than anything else.
Also I disagree with you. I find Slashdot and most other pages (as well as any app with lots of text like a word processor or IDE) much easier to read in a full window. More text on screen means it's easier to visually scan back to something if needed. Plus the problem with sizing your web browser is every page is designed for a different size. Even if a page is well-designed and doesn't assume a fixed width, there is still a certain width that each page needs to be to be reasonably readable, and that varies. Constantly resizing and repositioning a window is infuriating. True when it's maximized there is wasted space but at least the page will be readable.
Besides, damnit, I paid for dual wide-screen monitors and I'm not afraid to use them!
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I suffer from depression and I also have supplemental health insurance with Manulife. Obviously I am calling them tomorrow to cancel.
A few years ago they funded 6 weeks off work for my depression. Now I am hoping there aren't any photos of me floating around the net from that time, otherwise they might come around demanding that money back!
At my old job we started using CruiseControl.NET + svn (using TortoiseSVN on Windows) 5 years ago - back when the first version of TFS couldn't even get basic checkins right - and it was fabulous. Way ahead of its time. Now my current job uses TFS and granted it's pretty good (but don't touch any version before 2008 Server!), however you can still do just mostly the same thing with CC+svn for something like $1500/dev less. The reduced setup work and learning curve and VS integration is why companies like TFS, but if cost is your biggest concern then there are certainly other options.
I am watching CNN because I expect them to gather the news
Really? You must have just woken up from a prolonged coma, because CNN hasn't done that with any kind of respectability for the past 8 years, 2 months, and 1 day.
Well, since we're on the subject, here's another "solution":
Source the net - he can use reCAPTCHA to translate his scanned notes for him!
A 50kbps AT&T pipe
Haha, had to laugh at that phrasing. Although I was around for the era where 50kbps would have qualified as a pipe, by today's standards it is more of a drinking straw... and a really thin one at that!
Ah ha! First we get the story about the airline pilots who got off course because they supposedly pulled out their laptops in the cabin, and now, just hours later, we get a story about laptop fires on airplanes.
Conclusion: The pilots' laptops burst into flame and they got lost because too busy dealing with the fire!
See, Slashdot really does have all the answers.
No way. Mistakes that can or do cost lives cannot be left to pass. Obviously there are huge financial and legal concerns from doing so, but to me it comes down to something much more basic: If we start equating the nerd in his parents' basement who goofs and wipes out his HD full of porn with the pilot in the air who goofs and kills 300 people (or 30, or 3, or even 0 if it still put lives at risk) then we effectively say those lives don't matter. In other words, we have clearly lost all regard for life, no matter how much we may claim to value it.
The only way to show we care about life is to never allow a second chance to those who have failed when entrusted with the responsibilities of safety, no matter how accidental the violation. If we claim to value life above all else then the risk of doing is simply too great.
And getting fired does not mean you stop living. If it truly was an innocent mistake then these pilots can be permitted to continue to live and work freely elsewhere just like anybody else, except never again can they be trusted with anyone's safety.
Forgiveness is fine on a personal level, but as a society we simply don't have the luxury.
P.S. I've been saying for years we need to start treating motor vehicle operation the same way as flying for exactly the same reason: lives are constantly at risk! The number of lives involved may be less at any given time but the responsibility is just as great.
Yeah, and if an instrument fails, or a storm suddenly diverts into its path, or you hit a flock of birds, or another airplane is experiencing trouble and on a collision course, then the plane will fly itself (and you, if you are unlucky enough to be a passenger) into oblivion. It may be unlikely, but try telling that to the victims' families when it does happen.
Weird stuff occurs in the air way more often than one might think BTW. In the vast majority of cases it passes without the passengers ever noticing... because there are trained pilots there to handle it immediately. Modern APs have existed for like 30 years... if flying were straightforward enough to be automated all the time they would have phased out human pilots long ago.
Incidentally, I used to develop software for a railway and would have not only expected but indeed fully endorsed nothing less than termination if a programming mistake made by myself or one of my colleagues put lives at risk.
Nearly everything that ATC says is safety related. There is no chit-chat.
This is not quite true. On one leg of my last trip I was listening to the ATC feed they offer through the in-flight headphones and at one point a pilot and ATC had a bit of a chat. It sounded as though they knew each other in person... there were some greetings and then somehow they got talking about a certain type of old prop plane.
So chit-chat does occur. However, that being said, it was brief (2-3 minutes maybe) and was the only significant occurrence of such during 3 hours in the air.
That's the main goal - make it functional and easy to use, free and easy to install for as many people as possible. Those who need to can "escape" to the more advanced options. Being different for the sake of being different would be a terrible mistake.
I replied elsewhere on the specifics about My Documents, but this bit caught my I because I actually totally agree with it. Indeed, I wasn't advocating being different for the heck of it, but rather not being the same for the sake of being the same. In other words, don't blindly copy the more questionable features of Windows along with the good ones just to keep a familiar user experience. Instead, take the good stuff from Windows and the good stuff from Linux and integrate them, and where they don't mesh very well then find new approaches. The problem -- and I say this generally and not as an accusation pointed at Ubuntu or anyone else -- is that it's much easier and quicker to copy rather than innovate.
Having a Documents folder is fine but the way XP did it was terrible. Part of learning to use a computer is to learn to manage files and folders. The "My xxx" structure makes it hard to do this... it's hard to type into anything, and the way it's implemented even kinda hides the fact they're folders. The average user does understand files and folders but they don't necessarily immediately understand that their pictures in My Pictures are still just files in a folder and can be treated the same way. Also, XP treats My Documents as the user's home folder, even though it's not really so... the home folder is above it. Vista's structure didn't just remove "My", it fixed the structure to include a visible home folder...specifically it's C:\Users\username\{Documents,Pictures,Downloads,...}, which is also good for us techies as it's not buried deep in a long-named folder somewhere... it's very Unixy actually. I admittedly didn't look to see how Ubuntu does its My Documents behind the scenes but it turned me off instantly so I didn't particularly want to know.
For the root access thing, it isn't requiring root access that's my problem with UAC (and to a lesser extent with Ubuntu), it's the constant nagging and switching in and out of admin mode. The way it usually works is either you're admin and you can do whatever, or you're not and you can do nothing. Okay so for Linux we have sudo for a temporary admin, but that's intended to be consciously done up front. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to translate too well graphically. But UAC doesn't even try to teach the user that one thing should be done as admin and another not, it just nags the user about doing everything the least bit dangerous, then lets them do it if they say yes enough times. So for the average user I think it is better to enforce the old-fashioned "superuser" concept rather than allow slipping in and out.
I think IE started saving to desktop, and Firefox copied it. It is easy to turn off but most people don't. I've seen so many people whose desktops are full of a bunch of old junk files they never use anymore, and the worst part is that then they complain their computer is hard to use. In my book, any feature that encourages that kind of a mess shouldn't be emulated.
Okay I've been wanting to vent about this for a few weeks now and this seems to be as good a topic to write this in as any.
My first encounter with Ubuntu came when I recently installed Ubuntu Jaunty on a laptop for a club I belong to. The laptop's got an XP licence but we couldn't find a CD and the programs we need are available for Linux, so Ubuntu seemed like a good choice to get us up quickly. And it worked out fine: Install was simple and quick and the system looked good. The only tricky bit was figuring out the wireless setup but it wasn't too hard.
However I was utterly horrified to see that Ubuntu has also faithfully and I must say blindly replicated the most hideous features of Windows! The despicable "My Documents" folder structure was the first and most obvious. Say what you well about Vista, at least it fixed this into something less cumbersome and more sensible. Next was the constant prompting I got after doing almost every little thing. If I wanted that I'd have left UAC enabled on my Vista desktop. Then I find out Firefox was happily setup to save everything to the desktop by default. FOLDERS EXIST FOR A REASON!!!
Why why WHY are so many Linux folks trying to clone Windows when they dislike it so? It may be Linux and it may be free, but if it looks and acts like Windows then it's still an ugly mess. Here I thought Ubuntu would take the best features of Window and combine them with Linux, but instead all they did was turn Linux into a horrible disgusting Windows clone.
If a company knocks off another company's product we accuse them of stealing ideas. If someone releases some new program (open source or not) that replicates existing functionality we say "well why use yours when I can just use the original?" So why should we get all happy excited about Ubuntu when all it does is rip off Windows? To me that'd be the height of hypocrisy.
Mod me down, I don't care. I had to get this off my chest...
Definitely... I do .NET and after one experience with SharePoint I personally won't go near again, and I know several other decent-or-better developers who feel the same way. If it comes up during a job description or even an interview I will immediately stop and say "I'm afraid I don't do Sharepoint" and look for another contract. Even in this economy.
The worst part is that Sharepoint jobs actually pay a strong premium over standard .NET development because it's such a big mess and because so few people will actually touch it.
We weren't so lucky... last year the department head where I was happened to be quite keen on Second Life and managed to sell it as a good idea to the rest of the organization. So, while a major project was tied up in the initial phases and there was nothing else to do, several of us were assigned to work on a "presence" in SL. Quite a bit of work was done, but I can't tell you if it ever got out of the "concept" stage because I left that organization shortly after. (*gasp*, what a shocker!) And no I am sign up for Second Life myself just to find out!
Actually it was a good shop with a lot of bright people, just not enough work when I was there. Unfortunately that means the wacky ideas that should stay as pipe dreams actually become work and then Bad Things Happen.
I still have my Warp discs
Jeez dude, you might want to finally chuck those and free up a valuable bookcase or two! Although don't throw them out in one go, the landfills probably can't that much plastic at once.