I worked for many years for the Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC-DD) in King George County, VA (a.k.a. Dahlgren). As I understand there's plenty of tech-stuff going on there.
It's so rural you'll have a red neck inside of a week (mostly for protective/camo purposes. Throw away that volvo, get yourself a beat up Ford truck with a gun rack in the back. If it's good enough for your department head, it's good enough for you).
The only reason I moved is most of my family lives in the NJ area. Oh, and your salary tended to cap out at $60K, at least as a contractor.
Think about it. An Indian or a Pak executive will work for a lot less...and they certainly won't screw up^h^h^h^h^h^h^hmanage the company any better or worse than their overpaid American counterparts. Anyone interested in starting an executive outsourcing company with me?:)
I once asked my ex-wife: "How many dead babies does it take to achieve clinical imortality?"
Her reply? "As many as necessary".
Let me point some of you "youngsters" to a SF story called "Bug Jack Barron", by Norman Spinrad. In it a 5 year old child had to die for every adult made imortal. The twist to the story is the Bad Guys make Our Hero imortal instead of killing him. It's quite chiling to see the co-opting process go to work when Our Hero finds out he now is one of the lucky few, and how easy it is to rationalize the procedure (now that it's been done).
My point? Don't underestimate human greed and the will to survive. I also believe, along with another poster, that this move by the US is 1) a sop to the religious right at election time, and 2) a somokescreen for the US Pharma industry.
Just call me cynical, I guess ("Well, sure, Mr. Senator, we continued with our research dispite the ban. We only experimented on non-Americans, outside of America. So, do you want us to extend your life so you can run for another term, or not? Remember, you made this an illegal procedure..."). More Life. More seductive than more money.
I loved the work these guys did! "Torment" is one of my all-time favorite RPG's, mostly because it was based on playing a "role" and not on hack-n-slash.
Here's a project for you guys with a lot of spare time: "Quality Watch". Keep track of the guys involved with quality work, seeing where they go. Hopefully their "quality" will rub off on the guys their currently working with...
Re-read your paragraph. There are a lot of "probablies" and "might have's". The response to this line of argument by the agreaved gentleman, and his laywer, will be "prove it". But this is "/.", so we can open the floor to hearsay and inuendo.
And then, of course, there's the contents of his head. I suppose you would want him to give that up when he leaves? As long as he does not use "proprietary information" he's on the side of the angels.
Of course, fighting a large corporation like Apple is another matter.
I almost did this in my neighborhood. I live in Asbury Park, NJ, and while the area is getting "better", there are still many sections that are rough. Taking a walk anywhere after midnight is just a Bad Idea.
Anyway, about a year or two back, we had a lot of "park and sit" traffic on our block. Sometimes it would be a Jaguar parked in front of some Section 8 housing ("Delivered Fresh Every Day!"), or some beat up heap parked in front of nowhere in partucular ("Our Quality Assurance Staff Works 'Round The Clock Testing our Product for YOU!").
Of course, none of of the activity we could see was illegal. Just, shall we say, damn weird.
I almost got to the point where I was going to put one of those web cameras up outside a window when the "Jaguar House" got sold and the tennants had to leave.
If there has to be surveliance, put webcams up on street corners, post their address in a prominent spot either on the housing or in some kind of webcam white pages, and let EVERYBODY look.
No, I'm with you, brother. I could see replacing the humble 1.4M floppy with a beefier 100M (or 200M, or whatever) ZIP drive (or whatever), but DO NOT take away my ability to alternate boot the machine! Boot from CD is not a "nice" option for me:(
I agree with this approach only if you think you're working on something you can get a patent on. Your basic webmonkey isn't going to come up with anything that hasn't been seen before.
I wonder if the following approach would work: collect everybody's online notes (docs/email/etc), put it on a CD (or several Cd's), and mail it to yourself (return recpit requested?), and don't open the package when you get it. This will help with copyrighting, and it would prove "prior art"
Heh, I know this will never get read, but I did the same thing with great success. As a Linux guy living in a Windows world, the only thing we have in common is a browser that understands HTML.
Now if only the Flash crowd can keep their damn hands out of the pie we'll all be O.K.
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I worked for many years for the Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC-DD) in King George County, VA (a.k.a. Dahlgren). As I understand there's plenty of tech-stuff going on there.
It's so rural you'll have a red neck inside of a week (mostly for protective/camo purposes. Throw away that volvo, get yourself a beat up Ford truck with a gun rack in the back. If it's good enough for your department head, it's good enough for you).
The only reason I moved is most of my family lives in the NJ area. Oh, and your salary tended to cap out at $60K, at least as a contractor.
I see this as a return to Master/Slave computing.
... Master!"
"I'll never use a peer-to-peer network again
Yes, our compu-collars come in leather AND lace!
copse computing? Thicket computing?
you had electrons?!?
Think about it. An Indian or a Pak executive will work for a lot less...and they certainly won't screw up^h^h^h^h^h^h^hmanage the company any better or worse than their overpaid American counterparts. Anyone interested in starting an executive outsourcing company with me? :)
I once asked my ex-wife: "How many dead babies does it take to achieve clinical imortality?"
Her reply? "As many as necessary".
Let me point some of you "youngsters" to a SF story called "Bug Jack Barron", by Norman Spinrad. In it a 5 year old child had to die for every adult made imortal. The twist to the story is the Bad Guys make Our Hero imortal instead of killing him. It's quite chiling to see the co-opting process go to work when Our Hero finds out he now is one of the lucky few, and how easy it is to rationalize the procedure (now that it's been done).
My point? Don't underestimate human greed and the will to survive. I also believe, along with another poster, that this move by the US is 1) a sop to the religious right at election time, and 2) a somokescreen for the US Pharma industry.
Just call me cynical, I guess ("Well, sure, Mr. Senator, we continued with our research dispite the ban. We only experimented on non-Americans, outside of America. So, do you want us to extend your life so you can run for another term, or not? Remember, you made this an illegal procedure..."). More Life. More seductive than more money.
Actually, the bases are there to safeguard thousands of crashed alien starships, frozen in the ice with their pilots.
And you thought the USA had an illegal alien problem...
**your favorite strong oath here**
I loved the work these guys did! "Torment" is one of my all-time favorite RPG's, mostly because it was based on playing a "role" and not on hack-n-slash.
Here's a project for you guys with a lot of spare time: "Quality Watch". Keep track of the guys involved with quality work, seeing where they go. Hopefully their "quality" will rub off on the guys their currently working with...
We'll miss you, Mortie
Re-read your paragraph. There are a lot of "probablies" and "might have's". The response to this line of argument by the agreaved gentleman, and his laywer, will be "prove it". But this is "/.", so we can open the floor to hearsay and inuendo.
And then, of course, there's the contents of his head. I suppose you would want him to give that up when he leaves? As long as he does not use "proprietary information" he's on the side of the angels.
Of course, fighting a large corporation like Apple is another matter.
I almost did this in my neighborhood. I live in Asbury Park, NJ, and while the area is getting "better", there are still many sections that are rough. Taking a walk anywhere after midnight is just a Bad Idea.
Anyway, about a year or two back, we had a lot of "park and sit" traffic on our block. Sometimes it would be a Jaguar parked in front of some Section 8 housing ("Delivered Fresh Every Day!"), or some beat up heap parked in front of nowhere in partucular ("Our Quality Assurance Staff Works 'Round The Clock Testing our Product for YOU!").
Of course, none of of the activity we could see was illegal. Just, shall we say, damn weird.
I almost got to the point where I was going to put one of those web cameras up outside a window when the "Jaguar House" got sold and the tennants had to leave.
If there has to be surveliance, put webcams up on street corners, post their address in a prominent spot either on the housing or in some kind of webcam white pages, and let EVERYBODY look.
No, I'm with you, brother. I could see replacing the humble 1.4M floppy with a beefier 100M (or 200M, or whatever) ZIP drive (or whatever), but DO NOT take away my ability to alternate boot the machine! Boot from CD is not a "nice" option for me :(
Stirring the pot since 19 mumblty mumble...
I agree with this approach only if you think you're working on something you can get a patent on. Your basic webmonkey isn't going to come up with anything that hasn't been seen before.
I wonder if the following approach would work: collect everybody's online notes (docs/email/etc), put it on a CD (or several Cd's), and mail it to yourself (return recpit requested?), and don't open the package when you get it. This will help with copyrighting, and it would prove "prior art"
Heh, I know this will never get read, but I did the same thing with great success. As a Linux guy living in a Windows world, the only thing we have in common is a browser that understands HTML.
Now if only the Flash crowd can keep their damn hands out of the pie we'll all be O.K.