Get used to it. Nothing a good, structured tax/tariff structure can't correct with regards to allowing shoddy imports to undercut quality. The idea is to reverse the damage done by that region of the world to our domestic industries (who seem to have done better in terms of quality when allowed to build domestic). Just enough that companies get the hint not to use countries like Mexico and regions of the world such as Asia to undercut domestic labor- which would be used as a retraining fund.
Today, Disney. Today, GM What do you expect from a part of the world that seems to have forgotten quality, but how to become a large black hole for industries of other regions of the world? Certainly you cannot expect quality for a place like China.
Since we'd hear not much different than TheseEchoChambers. Or is dissent on this 4 year, multi-billion dollar "personal vendetta" safely expressible without the requisite public demonization?
Now if some groups at Yale(as well as the various other right-leaning Ivies)and Halliburton would have a $500,000 per item bake sale to raise money for Iraq, they can kill all the people they want on their (and only their) dime with their own people. I don't know how constitutional that would be, but it's not as if it's beyond them to disregard that "piece of paper".
You seem to be under the mistake impression that I think all the exploits in an MMO can ever be closed. They can't, that's reality.
No. However, when almost nothing is done at all for well-known exploits (or even just the fact that the protocol itself has to transmit certain bits of information) that go on unchecked for years, there's something quite wrong. Think of it as the game where bad policy meets badly maintained code.
And do you really think there's tens of thousands of bots/farmers in Lineage? I find that a dubious assertion at best. In any event, even if there were 250,000 of them, that still puts them at 1,000,000 active subscribers, well above any of the competition.
Apparently you've not played Lineage II(US) on Kain, Bartz, Teon, or Franz. Look all over the world, and you'll see botted shops, botted farmers, and raidfarmers run by the same groups. They won't be hard to find, and until recently, could be stopped by having the mobs do the work for you(bringing them down to just wearing weapons). On the active servers, they turn the normally light servers up to medium if not heavy - something normally not done by active players alone.
As for the thousands of farmers bit, yes. There's not much one can do except scale up beyond the (intended) active player base (which outside for some groups that defend them) that would keep the bot population in check given the chance.
Lineage hit the mark a long time ago. It's not as big as WoW. MMOcharts lists them with between 1M and 1.25M current active accounts and by that metric the number 2 AND number 3 in the market. That player base isn't going anywhere because of this little flash in the pan.
Now if you were to subtract all bot/raid farming accounts, and accounts in known botfarming regions(e.g. China), I'd bet that number would drop far from 1.25M.
I'd argue that if this was possible, the game code is already broken. In any event, there's any number of minor changes that could be made before release that can alleviate if not eliminate the problem. I don't see how any of it would require a huge investment in time.
Their policy enforcement and design is broken - they slap on 2 applications that behave like rootkits (Themida, Gameguard) yet L2Walker and such go right through the front door without them being broken.
Yeah, no way there'd be lawsuits there. Besides, people play MMOs for coherent content and (supposedly) the community/social aspects. If all your friends are on Lineage II, they're gonna move to Lineage III, not some half-assed quasi-Lineage that no one has heard of. I also think you're intentionally ignoring the infrastructure costs of running an MMO that would even start to compare with the player population of Lineage. Not to mention that the content would have to completely re-written in order to even start attracting players without attracting Lineage-Lawyers. Do those costs include the cost of defending the bot/raid farmers?
Or change the protocol just enough that it doesn't work. Lineage II has seen tons of "protocol changes" and yet third party programs still persist.
They protect their other product (Lineage II) with Themida and Gameguard, yet they let a little unauthorized third party program walk right through, as well as not drop the botfarmers of the server(who have ruined the economy despite what some minority may say otherwise)
I have no real sympathy for NCSoft in this case. Maybe if they dropped all the bots for good, stripped out the ineffective Gameguard / Themida, and supplanted the non-automated parts of L2Walker, they'd have a leg to stand on.
I don't think Americans would like it if some foreign company set up shop in America, started breaking American laws, and when caught exclaimed, "But your laws are wrong!"
That explains the large Japanese automotive presence after the Buy America law was made and to some lesser extent, illegal immigration after 1986. Circumvent the law or lobby against enforcement, the sound is the same.
Right, I think that's what is difficult about the whole Google/China censorship thing. If you ask people whether companies should participate in government censorship, most of us would say no. However, if you ask whether companies should be bound by the laws of the land, I think most of us would say yes.
Remind those same people of how China conducts business within their own country(think if labor laws had not been ever implemented in the US) and watch as you hear a resounding no(outside of a few in the business community) after they start hearing the lack of human rights. The only thing that is likely to come out of this kind of deference towards China (what's their equivalent concept to "dhimmi"?) is a country resembling Singapore (Business friendly sellout, human rights absent, kill happy country).
here are many advantages to AIX: cheaper hardware, powerful POWER5 architecture to run on (IBM hardware scales quite nicely), decent support, and it is maintained by one of the oldest technology companies in America. Adding to that list, you can add that they don't try to pull support stunts with hardware and dig their heels in when they transition to a more open form.
IBM still maintains AIX.
They dont play the games in shortening the lifespan like one of their competitors does. Now IBM'd move away from some insecure defaults in authentication...
Excise the Stanford out of Google first
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Google-y is defined as somebody who is fairly flexible, adaptable and not focusing on titles and hierarchy, and just gets stuff done Odd for an organization that prides itself on the contrary through their bit on favoring exclusivist universities and the concepts that go with them. They would do well to take a few pages from the concept of Jante Law to have an honest effort at meeting those concepts. That includes doing away with everything that connects them to Stanford in terms of exclusivity as well, as that hasn't helped in that effort as well.
I think being evil by obeying Chinese laws can also be disputed. Given their record on human rights, Google gets the rap for "not doing evil" yet they are by assisting in a government that considers human rights an afterthought.
Given the games with admissions, maybe it is time to start thinking about removing exclusivity from higher education versus adding more? The only good thing out of this would be to get a replacement who could work towards this goal by discouraging "class building". At this point, it'd be better to take a hit in ratings, and turn the focus on the academic part(not the financial or exclusivist part) - where one has only the focus to learn.
The other option would just be that one would be only able to declare that one has obtained a degree, but cannot declare where. If there are any concerns of someone's reputation, have them take it up with the relevant authorities who could provide the yes/no answer (and nothing more).
This angers me alot. I grew up in SC and you can walk down the street and find people with IS and other tech degrees. Your state sold out to globalization, plain and simple. Maybe the constituents should have listened to the warning the textile industry gave and made sure that any continued progress(as well as applying such downwards) up the food chain is inhibited if not blocked(unless there are provisions that insure the well-being of those displaced until their transition to another industry of similar/greater compensation).
how skilled is the average US programmer versus the average outsourced programmer?/i One need only look at the number of companies requiring cleanup by a US citizen for the mistake of choosing the gilded cup of globalization.
"There would have been a lot more than 147,000 jobs created here, but our companies are having difficulty finding Americans with the background," says William Archey, president and chief executive of the AeA.
Maybe it's time you stopped writing the requirements that no US Citizen could fill. Otherwise the only solution left would be to rightfully tax foreign assets as domestic except if used to allow domestic industry to continue - allowing workers to fund a humane transition.
Otherwise, don't be surprised if 2009 brings in the lynch mob for globalization.
Oh man, that's the creepiest thing ever. Good Lord, how can they get away with that kind of crap?
Donations to their representatives, and the use of basic psychology that isnt far off from methods used by this group
Look up Lichfield and Kay for all terms in the state of Utah here. They'll show up quite clearly when you match up their already known residences there to names. (source:ISAC) It helps to have support in certain places to not worry about legal issues. Conducting semi-legal transfers of minors to uncertified camps that are just "private detention centers" more than a "boarding school by force" has attracted a good deal of attention, and they still survive.
In the case of those donations, one might have a chance - if to catch Mitt Romney in a "think of the children" moment. That is, the question to ask is: "what do you know about this group, and why are they allowed in your state to permanently harm a minor, despite the known evidence?". Follow up with the media(CBS may have done a segment on this in the 90's, so it'd not be a bad angle if you can get them to tie that to Romney) that could use it if he refuses, even if shown the donation record to his political party from this group. If done properly, it should stir up the nest for some interesting moments to have some publicly answered questions.
As for basic psychology, there is a basic (but flawed) presumption that children in these settings speak out of patient-sourced manipulation to get out, and that is well used by this organization. Turn the parents against the children, and make it near impossible to "not go with the program"(read:send them far enough away that nobody is near home), and you have a recipe for folks that don't know much more than how to comply with an order.
In this case, truth is quite stranger than some fiction, and it makes SCO's deeds look saintly by comparison.
Then maybe you would take a good look at removing the legitimized kidnappers from your state, if not to have the authorities prosecute them for their deeds.
That said, this hack looked like it was done by a no-steam group, and I honestly have no respect for them. It's fine if you want to run old Valve games without Steam (it's pretty horrible software)... These guys go a step further and brag about it. Our HL community has a very anti-"no steam" policy; you simply won't get support if you're running it.
By the looks of things, keeping these people in the cold isn't exactly going to help much either. Not every place has a regular connection that runs these games, and is seen as spyware to some - exclusion in the modding community isn't going to help.
The only bad action in this case is this compromise and all the things with it.
First of all, the community wasn't "gagged", when you are gagged you are forbidden from saying something What part of "posts didnt make moderation" did you not see? To preempt it, a private (exclusivist) entity used moderation to remove objection. That's gagging, no matter how the entity was grouped. No "liberty to exclude" excuses can explain it.
Read the following: No posts to the SQL-Ledger mailing lists asking about the license change were getting past moderation and direct questions to the author were going unanswered.
... who actually ruined the lives of a couple of "rich white guy" lacrosse players (also college sports players) accused of rape, who not only got away with destroying their lives (as opposed to just hurting their feelings with a few badly chosen words)...
Aside from the two protected classes going against each other in this one, money is the one to look at w/ Duke. The three students who were able to get their lawyer to buy influence, the race issues were used by Duke to tarnish the accuser.
The moral of the story? You can say whatever you want and get away with it... if you're rich. Otherwise watch out for the high pay attorneys defending clients who go to exclusivist universities like Duke, for they will buy enough influence to win their case.
Since when has following the law been a dirty trick? Use a technicality to break a strike and send a signal that outright declares open hunting season on worker rights- all in the same penstroke.
We're with the government. We're here to help. Reagan's declaration for businesses go open season on workers(due to misreading of PATCO) changes the scariest words in the English language to: We're with the corporate interest. We're here to help. Given the turn of many a business from ethical conduct and the gutting of many worker protections, the government now reflects who has the most money and influence.
. What exactly are we supposed to do? Declare war on China if they don't legislate improved working conditions? Trade war, where the US drops Asia in favor of close (deglobalized)EU - US ties for products. When they try to circumvent by using front groups in this region, apply same to the front groups, publicly shaming them as well. No missiles needed, but there are ways to outdo that region of the world that doesn't seem to know the words "human rights", or "ethics".
Upsides: Domestic students have open season at top universities with little trouble of getting in where desired. Manufacturing/textile regions have a chance to revitalize heavily Offshoring is marginalized to a point where there is no disparity to facilitate such activity. Businesses would be encouraged to be humane given what has happened when doing the contrary. If degree reciprocity is allowed to save on space, to expand slots, and to further favor the domestic students of a certain region, then remaining "International" students can remain in their home country going to a university of comparable difficulty compared to one of a different country.
If you want full war, drop out of Iraq and offer countries that are hostile to Asia a chance to express it. However, trade war doesn't leave the unsightly fallout or afterglow but yields similar results.
When workers are allowed an environment that does not attack them, but respects them for each and every contribution - then you can see quality go up without exorbitant expense tagging closely behind. Add unnecessary stress of job insecurity and that affects the products in the line.
The WTO exists precisely for the purpose of arbitrating disputes of this sort. The US is following protocol for a legitimate concern. That has not worked for the larger part for multiple members - maybe it is time to consider taking action that ignores the WTO for the larger part if it will help.
But since Reagan got involved with PATCO, in retrospect it looks boneheaded indeed. Fixed it for you. While it was on a legal technicality, it is known well to be the signal that eroded worker rights ever since the workers were fired. How's that for "government non-interference"?
Well, historically Detroit could afford to give in to pretty much all the union demands, no matter how opulent. And is that a problem? It's been the other way around since ~1980, and then some. The same reversal of fortunes have even stretched to other industries as well given the green light from Reagan.
Detroit has a labor union legacy of decades of astonishing pay and bennies, Toyota and Honda do not. Union or not, treating workers with highest respect does make things better in terms of quality over all. It's hard to complain if work can be focused in the fullest by removing the issues in front of it.
Not everyone can to being $DEITY by being a business owner, or remove their ethics along the way. Those who have tried to maintain humanity have been mostly driven into the ground. See (post AT&T GIS)NCR, IBM, Unions, and The (True, Domestic) Big Three to name a few.
Get used to it.
Nothing a good, structured tax/tariff structure can't correct with regards to allowing shoddy imports to undercut quality. The idea is to reverse the damage done by that region of the world to our domestic industries (who seem to have done better in terms of quality when allowed to build domestic). Just enough that companies get the hint not to use countries like Mexico and regions of the world such as Asia to undercut domestic labor- which would be used as a retraining fund.
Today, Disney. Today, GM
What do you expect from a part of the world that seems to have forgotten quality, but how to become a large black hole for industries of other regions of the world? Certainly you cannot expect quality for a place like China.
...Can't touch this.
Since we'd hear not much different than These Echo Chambers. Or is dissent on this 4 year, multi-billion dollar "personal vendetta" safely expressible without the requisite public demonization?
Now if some groups at Yale(as well as the various other right-leaning Ivies)and Halliburton would have a $500,000 per item bake sale to raise money for Iraq, they can kill all the people they want on their (and only their) dime with their own people. I don't know how constitutional that would be, but it's not as if it's beyond them to disregard that "piece of paper".
You seem to be under the mistake impression that I think all the exploits in an MMO can ever be closed. They can't, that's reality.
No. However, when almost nothing is done at all for well-known exploits (or even just the fact that the protocol itself has to transmit certain bits of information) that go on unchecked for years, there's something quite wrong. Think of it as the game where bad policy meets badly maintained code.
And do you really think there's tens of thousands of bots/farmers in Lineage? I find that a dubious assertion at best. In any event, even if there were 250,000 of them, that still puts them at 1,000,000 active subscribers, well above any of the competition.
Apparently you've not played Lineage II(US) on Kain, Bartz, Teon, or Franz. Look all over the world, and you'll see botted shops, botted farmers, and raidfarmers run by the same groups. They won't be hard to find, and until recently, could be stopped by having the mobs do the work for you(bringing them down to just wearing weapons). On the active servers, they turn the normally light servers up to medium if not heavy - something normally not done by active players alone.
As for the thousands of farmers bit, yes. There's not much one can do except scale up beyond the (intended) active player base (which outside for some groups that defend them) that would keep the bot population in check given the chance.
Lineage hit the mark a long time ago. It's not as big as WoW. MMOcharts lists them with between 1M and 1.25M current active accounts and by that metric the number 2 AND number 3 in the market. That player base isn't going anywhere because of this little flash in the pan.
Now if you were to subtract all bot/raid farming accounts, and accounts in known botfarming regions(e.g. China), I'd bet that number would drop far from 1.25M.
I'd argue that if this was possible, the game code is already broken. In any event, there's any number of minor changes that could be made before release that can alleviate if not eliminate the problem. I don't see how any of it would require a huge investment in time.
Their policy enforcement and design is broken - they slap on 2 applications that behave like rootkits (Themida, Gameguard) yet L2Walker and such go right through the front door without them being broken.
Yeah, no way there'd be lawsuits there. Besides, people play MMOs for coherent content and (supposedly) the community/social aspects. If all your friends are on Lineage II, they're gonna move to Lineage III, not some half-assed quasi-Lineage that no one has heard of. I also think you're intentionally ignoring the infrastructure costs of running an MMO that would even start to compare with the player population of Lineage. Not to mention that the content would have to completely re-written in order to even start attracting players without attracting Lineage-Lawyers.
Do those costs include the cost of defending the bot/raid farmers?
Or change the protocol just enough that it doesn't work.
Lineage II has seen tons of "protocol changes" and yet third party programs still persist.
They protect their other product (Lineage II) with Themida and Gameguard, yet they let a little unauthorized third party program walk right through, as well as not drop the botfarmers of the server(who have ruined the economy despite what some minority may say otherwise)
I have no real sympathy for NCSoft in this case. Maybe if they dropped all the bots for good, stripped out the ineffective Gameguard / Themida, and supplanted the non-automated parts of L2Walker, they'd have a leg to stand on.
I don't think Americans would like it if some foreign company set up shop in America, started breaking American laws, and when caught exclaimed, "But your laws are wrong!"
That explains the large Japanese automotive presence after the Buy America law was made and to some lesser extent, illegal immigration after 1986. Circumvent the law or lobby against enforcement, the sound is the same.
Right, I think that's what is difficult about the whole Google/China censorship thing. If you ask people whether companies should participate in government censorship, most of us would say no. However, if you ask whether companies should be bound by the laws of the land, I think most of us would say yes.
Remind those same people of how China conducts business within their own country(think if labor laws had not been ever implemented in the US) and watch as you hear a resounding no(outside of a few in the business community) after they start hearing the lack of human rights. The only thing that is likely to come out of this kind of deference towards China (what's their equivalent concept to "dhimmi"?) is a country resembling Singapore (Business friendly sellout, human rights absent, kill happy country).
here are many advantages to AIX: cheaper hardware, powerful POWER5 architecture to run on (IBM hardware scales quite nicely), decent support, and it is maintained by one of the oldest technology companies in America.
Adding to that list, you can add that they don't try to pull support stunts with hardware and dig their heels in when they transition to a more open form.
IBM still maintains AIX.
They dont play the games in shortening the lifespan like one of their competitors does. Now IBM'd move away from some insecure defaults in authentication...
Google-y is defined as somebody who is fairly flexible, adaptable and not focusing on titles and hierarchy, and just gets stuff done
Odd for an organization that prides itself on the contrary through their bit on favoring exclusivist universities and the concepts that go with them. They would do well to take a few pages from the concept of Jante Law to have an honest effort at meeting those concepts. That includes doing away with everything that connects them to Stanford in terms of exclusivity as well, as that hasn't helped in that effort as well.
Not to mention the goldfarmers that ruin economies having a better link.
I think being evil by obeying Chinese laws can also be disputed.
Given their record on human rights, Google gets the rap for "not doing evil" yet they are by assisting in a government that considers human rights an afterthought.
Given the games with admissions, maybe it is time to start thinking about removing exclusivity from higher education versus adding more? The only good thing out of this would be to get a replacement who could work towards this goal by discouraging "class building". At this point, it'd be better to take a hit in ratings, and turn the focus on the academic part(not the financial or exclusivist part) - where one has only the focus to learn.
The other option would just be that one would be only able to declare that one has obtained a degree, but cannot declare where. If there are any concerns of someone's reputation, have them take it up with the relevant authorities who could provide the yes/no answer (and nothing more).
This angers me alot. I grew up in SC and you can walk down the street and find people with IS and other tech degrees.
Your state sold out to globalization, plain and simple. Maybe the constituents should have listened to the warning the textile industry gave and made sure that any continued progress(as well as applying such downwards) up the food chain is inhibited if not blocked(unless there are provisions that insure the well-being of those displaced until their transition to another industry of similar/greater compensation).
how skilled is the average US programmer versus the average outsourced programmer?/i
One need only look at the number of companies requiring cleanup by a US citizen for the mistake of choosing the gilded cup of globalization.
"There would have been a lot more than 147,000 jobs created here, but our companies are having difficulty finding Americans with the background," says William Archey, president and chief executive of the AeA.
Maybe it's time you stopped writing the requirements that no US Citizen could fill. Otherwise the only solution left would be to rightfully tax foreign assets as domestic except if used to allow domestic industry to continue - allowing workers to fund a humane transition.
Otherwise, don't be surprised if 2009 brings in the lynch mob for globalization.
No, that's this guy.
Oh man, that's the creepiest thing ever. Good Lord, how can they get away with that kind of crap?
Donations to their representatives, and the use of basic psychology that isnt far off from methods used by this group
Look up Lichfield and Kay for all terms in the state of Utah here. They'll show up quite clearly when you match up their already known residences there to names. (source:ISAC) It helps to have support in certain places to not worry about legal issues. Conducting semi-legal transfers of minors to uncertified camps that are just "private detention centers" more than a "boarding school by force" has attracted a good deal of attention, and they still survive.
In the case of those donations, one might have a chance - if to catch Mitt Romney in a "think of the children" moment. That is, the question to ask is: "what do you know about this group, and why are they allowed in your state to permanently harm a minor, despite the known evidence?". Follow up with the media(CBS may have done a segment on this in the 90's, so it'd not be a bad angle if you can get them to tie that to Romney) that could use it if he refuses, even if shown the donation record to his political party from this group. If done properly, it should stir up the nest for some interesting moments to have some publicly answered questions.
As for basic psychology, there is a basic (but flawed) presumption that children in these settings speak out of patient-sourced manipulation to get out, and that is well used by this organization. Turn the parents against the children, and make it near impossible to "not go with the program"(read:send them far enough away that nobody is near home), and you have a recipe for folks that don't know much more than how to comply with an order.
In this case, truth is quite stranger than some fiction, and it makes SCO's deeds look saintly by comparison.
Then maybe you would take a good look at removing the legitimized kidnappers from your state, if not to have the authorities prosecute them for their deeds.
That said, this hack looked like it was done by a no-steam group, and I honestly have no respect for them. It's fine if you want to run old Valve games without Steam (it's pretty horrible software)... These guys go a step further and brag about it. Our HL community has a very anti-"no steam" policy; you simply won't get support if you're running it.
By the looks of things, keeping these people in the cold isn't exactly going to help much either. Not every place has a regular connection that runs these games, and is seen as spyware to some - exclusion in the modding community isn't going to help.
The only bad action in this case is this compromise and all the things with it.
First of all, the community wasn't "gagged", when you are gagged you are forbidden from saying something
What part of "posts didnt make moderation" did you not see? To preempt it, a private (exclusivist) entity used moderation to remove objection. That's gagging, no matter how the entity was grouped. No "liberty to exclude" excuses can explain it.
Read the following:
No posts to the SQL-Ledger mailing lists asking about the license change were getting past moderation and direct questions to the author were going unanswered.
Aside from the two protected classes going against each other in this one, money is the one to look at w/ Duke. The three students who were able to get their lawyer to buy influence, the race issues were used by Duke to tarnish the accuser.
The moral of the story? You can say whatever you want and get away with it... if you're rich. Otherwise watch out for the high pay attorneys defending clients who go to exclusivist universities like Duke, for they will buy enough influence to win their case.
Fixed it for you.
Since when has following the law been a dirty trick?
Use a technicality to break a strike and send a signal that outright declares open hunting season on worker rights- all in the same penstroke.
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We're with the government. We're here to help.
Reagan's declaration for businesses go open season on workers(due to misreading of PATCO) changes the scariest words in the English language to:
We're with the corporate interest. We're here to help.
Given the turn of many a business from ethical conduct and the gutting of many worker protections, the government now reflects who has the most money and influence.
. What exactly are we supposed to do? Declare war on China if they don't legislate improved working conditions?
Trade war, where the US drops Asia in favor of close (deglobalized)EU - US ties for products. When they try to circumvent by using front groups in this region, apply same to the front groups, publicly shaming them as well. No missiles needed, but there are ways to outdo that region of the world that doesn't seem to know the words "human rights", or "ethics".
Upsides:
Domestic students have open season at top universities with little trouble of getting in where desired.
Manufacturing/textile regions have a chance to revitalize heavily
Offshoring is marginalized to a point where there is no disparity to facilitate such activity.
Businesses would be encouraged to be humane given what has happened when doing the contrary.
If degree reciprocity is allowed to save on space, to expand slots, and to further favor the domestic students of a certain region, then remaining "International" students can remain in their home country going to a university of comparable difficulty compared to one of a different country.
If you want full war, drop out of Iraq and offer countries that are hostile to Asia a chance to express it. However, trade war doesn't leave the unsightly fallout or afterglow but yields similar results.
When workers are allowed an environment that does not attack them, but respects them for each and every contribution - then you can see quality go up without exorbitant expense tagging closely behind. Add unnecessary stress of job insecurity and that affects the products in the line.
The WTO exists precisely for the purpose of arbitrating disputes of this sort. The US is following protocol for a legitimate concern.
That has not worked for the larger part for multiple members - maybe it is time to consider taking action that ignores the WTO for the larger part if it will help.
But since Reagan got involved with PATCO, in retrospect it looks boneheaded indeed.
Fixed it for you. While it was on a legal technicality, it is known well to be the signal that eroded worker rights ever since the workers were fired. How's that for "government non-interference"?
Well, historically Detroit could afford to give in to pretty much all the union demands, no matter how opulent.
And is that a problem? It's been the other way around since ~1980, and then some. The same reversal of fortunes have even stretched to other industries as well given the green light from Reagan.
Detroit has a labor union legacy of decades of astonishing pay and bennies, Toyota and Honda do not.
Union or not, treating workers with highest respect does make things better in terms of quality over all. It's hard to complain if work can be focused in the fullest by removing the issues in front of it.
Not everyone can to being $DEITY by being a business owner, or remove their ethics along the way. Those who have tried to maintain humanity have been mostly driven into the ground. See (post AT&T GIS)NCR, IBM, Unions, and The (True, Domestic) Big Three to name a few.