That's the tricky bit: The logo is imprinted on the inside of the cover (in the bit of plastic that has the depression where the CD sits). So you need to open it to check, that's why Philips want warning labels/stickers on the outside - in addition to removal of the logo.
Hmmmm. let me check so cds...
Some of them do and some don't.
Moby - Play has the logo on the back of the box.
The Blade 2 soundtrack does too.
Liquid Todd - Solid State dose not. Not even on the cd weird.
Now remember The fast and the furious soundtrack part 2 (you know the one that had copy protection).
It dose not have the logo on the back. Also the waring sticker is on the back not the front and it's placed on the insert under the plastic. You have to rip apart the case to get to it.
This cd does have the logo on the cd it's self however.
They all do have it eched on the inside of the case like you said.
I was trying to point out to you the sheer hypocrisy of your view that it is okay for you (or your friends) to kill innocent civilians, but that it is not okay for someone else to attack you (or your friends) in cold blood.
And I am trying to point out the the innocent civilian deaths. Well every tragic were not intentional . The real targets were military ones. Some times the bomb gets dropped in the wrong spot or the enemies troop set up camp in close proximity to civilians in order to use them a human shields.
Yes it's tragic but it's not the USes' fault at least not completely
Probably to OP was referring to the royalties Apple is paying Fraunhofer on your behalf for each encoder sold. If you believe that common file formats should be patent free and refuse to encourage those patent extortionists by (indirectly) giving them money, you have to boycott mp3 and use ogg.
Um yah I hate patented fileformats just as much as the next guy but the royalties are quite low.
The sticker is most likely on the plastic wrap and therefore not in the shot.
But if its an online purchase then a label on the pack is useless. IMO if they don't tell you in the text on the page it doesn't count.
If in a retail store it's not a label on the front. I think it's also not enough.
I do think these ant-fare use systems are wrong and it vexes me that it is illegal to break them.
But if you were warned then you should know better.
The sticker's on the wrapper. The wrapper gets thrown away when you open the CD. Why wouldn't they believe you when you said your new CD had no sticker on it?
Good point. I still won't be caught dead holding (let alone buying/returning) one of her cds.
Just as long as they don't have the CD logo... if they do, then which one do you, as the consumer, believe? The CD logo that says it will work in your computer, or the Sony one that says it won't? Sounds like fradulent marketing to me.
Well exept the cd-logo is a LOGO and not a label that says anything.
Plus the sticker is much bigger then the logo.
It's more like having a little USA flag on a disc thats all in french.
If the disk hase a sticker on the front saying "This disc is in french".
I dont think you could bring it back saying "Man it hade the little USA flag on the back. I though it was in english".
Actualy the cdparanoia idea is even MORE ironic in that cdparanoia is a ripper and not a player.
You have to rip the tracks to play them now THATS ironic.
Exept they have a BIG warning sticker on the front.
If I was the store manager I would not exept returns on this cd.
"Sorry pal you were the idot that bought Celien Deion".
Now some poor kernel hackers will have to listen to this music so they can code a workaround for the linux kernel.
I feel there pain. Just rember this is for the greater good.:)
Think about it. If the Lord of the Rings is broadcast for free in 1080i with an AC3 soundtrack and I can record it straight to my hard disk, what incentive do I have to go out and buy the DVD? The version I recorded off the airwaves is higher resolution, has a better soundtrack and best of all was free.
Thats a sacrifice I'm willing to make.
I don't think that TV needs to be a movie network.
Nor should it be a vecile to sell us shit.
In my mind the alternative is to let them show somthing else.
Okay let me get this straight you say the sept 11 attacks were justified but the "war" in afganistan is not?
So witch is it "killing innocent civilians is murder" or "those innocent [setp 11] were collateral damage in a war."
Just because I don't share your view doesn't mean that I'm a mindless drone of propaganda.
an example:
I don't think isreals invasion of plaistine is justified.
I don't think that we should invade Iraq.
The list gose on but I think I made my point.
I am also NOT a US citizen if you were wondering.
Reminds me of a gag from an old friends episode.
where Chandiler said somthing like:
As a kid I thought that gun point was a place.
And I couldn't figure out why people would keep going there. You'd here about people getting robbed, raped and killed at gun point.
Whatever happend to the air waves belonging to the people and the brodcasters using them as a privilege?
CSS on DVDs is one think (still evil if you ask me) but on brodcast TV when dose the madness end?
I can see my donation to the EFF was worth every cent.
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Still, I won't be in Mandrake club :)
Also how long will people remain club members?
What happens when the novelty wears off?
I mean if the range is that small why not just plug the damn thing in and do it in 1/10 of the time?
That's the tricky bit: The logo is imprinted on the inside of the cover (in the bit of plastic that has the depression where the CD sits). So you need to open it to check, that's why Philips want warning labels/stickers on the outside - in addition to removal of the logo.
Hmmmm. let me check so cds...
Some of them do and some don't.
Moby - Play has the logo on the back of the box.
The Blade 2 soundtrack does too.
Liquid Todd - Solid State dose not. Not even on the cd weird.
Now remember The fast and the furious soundtrack part 2 (you know the one that had copy protection).
It dose not have the logo on the back. Also the waring sticker is on the back not the front and it's placed on the insert under the plastic. You have to rip apart the case to get to it.
This cd does have the logo on the cd it's self however.
They all do have it eched on the inside of the case like you said.
Okay I just rember reading the mp3 was better. This was a while ago and that could have changed (opensorce is like that).
I was trying to point out to you the sheer hypocrisy of your view that it is okay for you (or your friends) to kill innocent civilians, but that it is not okay for someone else to attack you (or your friends) in cold blood.
And I am trying to point out the the innocent civilian deaths. Well every tragic were not intentional . The real targets were military ones. Some times the bomb gets dropped in the wrong spot or the enemies troop set up camp in close proximity to civilians in order to use them a human shields.
Yes it's tragic but it's not the USes' fault at least not completely
Probably to OP was referring to the royalties Apple is paying Fraunhofer on your behalf for each encoder sold. If you believe that common file formats should be patent free and refuse to encourage those patent extortionists by (indirectly) giving them money, you have to boycott mp3 and use ogg.
Um yah I hate patented fileformats just as much as the next guy but the royalties are quite low.
Besides, some people prefer the sound of ogg.
Who the deaf?
Yah Dub pistols were a bad example. ;)
There on the blade 2 soundtrack and the game frequency on PS2.
Still a good band though
The sticker is most likely on the plastic wrap and therefore not in the shot.
But if its an online purchase then a label on the pack is useless. IMO if they don't tell you in the text on the page it doesn't count.
If in a retail store it's not a label on the front. I think it's also not enough.
I do think these ant-fare use systems are wrong and it vexes me that it is illegal to break them.
But if you were warned then you should know better.
[*]I will not elaborate on what a "good" band is because no matter what I say, I will be trolled to death.
My personal strategy is to use the most abscure band I can think of.
How many people know who "Dub Pistols " are.
This is the funniest troll EVER. you gota click the link to see what I mean.
The sticker's on the wrapper. The wrapper gets thrown away when you open the CD. Why wouldn't they believe you when you said your new CD had no sticker on it?
Good point. I still won't be caught dead holding (let alone buying/returning) one of her cds.
Posts like this should not get +5s.
Hey I just post em I don't mod em.
Now you have a case.
If you used a credit card call them up and contest the charges.
I'm on 4 hours sleep and more caffeine then should be legally allowed.
Okay got me there.
Now do we actualy know if these cds have the logos?
Aye but if we "get the ball rolling now" so to speek.
By the time a cd worth putting on my iPOD comes out It will all be ready.
Just as long as they don't have the CD logo... if they do, then which one do you, as the consumer, believe? The CD logo that says it will work in your computer, or the Sony one that says it won't? Sounds like fradulent marketing to me.
Well exept the cd-logo is a LOGO and not a label that says anything.
Plus the sticker is much bigger then the logo.
It's more like having a little USA flag on a disc thats all in french.
If the disk hase a sticker on the front saying "This disc is in french".
I dont think you could bring it back saying "Man it hade the little USA flag on the back. I though it was in english".
Actualy the cdparanoia idea is even MORE ironic in that cdparanoia is a ripper and not a player.
You have to rip the tracks to play them now THATS ironic.
Exept they have a BIG warning sticker on the front.
If I was the store manager I would not exept returns on this cd.
"Sorry pal you were the idot that bought Celien Deion".
Now some poor kernel hackers will have to listen to this music so they can code a workaround for the linux kernel. :)
I feel there pain. Just rember this is for the greater good.
Think about it. If the Lord of the Rings is broadcast for free in 1080i with an AC3 soundtrack and I can record it straight to my hard disk, what incentive do I have to go out and buy the DVD? The version I recorded off the airwaves is higher resolution, has a better soundtrack and best of all was free.
Thats a sacrifice I'm willing to make.
I don't think that TV needs to be a movie network.
Nor should it be a vecile to sell us shit.
In my mind the alternative is to let them show somthing else.
Okay let me get this straight you say the sept 11 attacks were justified but the "war" in afganistan is not?
So witch is it "killing innocent civilians is murder" or "those innocent [setp 11] were collateral damage in a war."
Just because I don't share your view doesn't mean that I'm a mindless drone of propaganda.
an example:
I don't think isreals invasion of plaistine is justified.
I don't think that we should invade Iraq.
The list gose on but I think I made my point.
I am also NOT a US citizen if you were wondering.
Reminds me of a gag from an old friends episode.
where Chandiler said somthing like:
As a kid I thought that gun point was a place.
And I couldn't figure out why people would keep going there. You'd here about people getting robbed, raped and killed at gun point.
How the hell could he know that we are "very close" to discovering anything?
Did miss cleo tell him?
Or better yet the last guy to try to make one Europe was Hitler.
Whatever happend to the air waves belonging to the people and the brodcasters using them as a privilege?
CSS on DVDs is one think (still evil if you ask me) but on brodcast TV when dose the madness end?
I can see my donation to the EFF was worth every cent.