also (sorry for the millions of posts) who's to tell me that i can't make 2 copies for myself for my own personal use, and then lend one of those copies to someone on a very long term basis? or that my own personal use includes giving it to a friend?
by the time this ends, either the record companies are gonna get spanked by the law, or the law is going to get rewritten to be more specific.
well i wont talk out of my ass by saying that i know for sure, but if we want to split hairs on it, if i were stuck in court forced to defend myself, i would argue that making a file available on my pc for downloading is not the same as making a copy and giving it to someone, as until the downloader initiates a connection, there is no copy being made... the copy doesnt exist until it arrives complete at their computer.
the file is on my computer, just as the cd would be in my house.. the person enters my computer, requestes the file (asks me to borrow my cd), and the file being transmitted to their computer is the process of me lending them the cd, then when the file is complete, they have made the copy themselves, because none of this requires any intervention on my part...
the fact that the copy and send process are in the same step is where the companies are trying to wiggle out a court rulling making it ilegal.. if a p2p process actually moved the file from my computer to theirs, then made a copy, and then moved the orriginal back, there would be no room to split hairs and call it any different than me lending the person a CD.
thats where you get into semantics.. who is copying for who? when i share on kazaa or whatever, im not actually making a copy, you are when you download it from me, you're copying it from my computer down to yours.
it is neither ilegal to be the copier, or the lender of the copy.. i dont know the specific wording of the law, but i cant see how borrowing a cd or whatever and copying it can be legal while lending the cd to be copied is ilegal.
will the courts uphold the previous laws passed about fair use... we pay tarrifs on media as a result of the laws that give us the right to share and copy music.. you cant charge someone a fee like that and then sure them for excercising their rights.
im sick of working $9/hr jobs with no job security and little to no benifits.. i'd join the air force in a heart beat, but i'd never pass their entry requirements..
now if on the other hand they drafted me.. hello 45k(+)/year job + full benefits + affordable housing + job security + pension + way more stuff than my shitty private sector jobs...
i have to disagree with that.. medeocre movies are seen only once.. good movies last forever.. for example (and all you matrix haters will probly flame me) the fist time i saw the matrix was when a friend of mine brought over a telesync of it, i basicaly watched it because where i lived at the time wasnt going to be showing the movie for another 2 months...
when the movie was showing, i went out and watched it on the big screen too... and then when it came out on dvd, i bought it as well.. i now own the first matrix movie, the behind the scenes dvd, and the second one, and when the last one comes out, i'll buy that one too.. (i dont want to digress into a discussion of which sequel sucked, etc, but the first one was so good, i feel that its strong enough even to support the 2 sequels)
maybe some day they'll have a burner that takes an inserted block of plactic, mold it into a cd, burn it, lable it, and then mold a labled case at the same time huh?
yeah, thats why i didnt want to seem like trolling.. my old place of work had 400-800 mhz systems each with 128-256 mb ram, all running nt4, which should have been smoking for the minimal web work we did, but all their spying software brought it all to a flaming wreckage.. i could only imagine how many QA reports contained blue screens and illegal ops
the reason it support personel are paid so little is because the things we're supporting you with are so easy, anyone could learn it if they had half a brain. I took a job doing support hoping my amassed knowledge would be put to use fixing real problems, i was dissalusioned to find i was stuck in the monotony of retarded problems like "i cant open my attachment" and the like.
we fix things.. just like your $40/hr mechanic, like your $200/hr lawer or doctor.. something's broke and you dont know how to fix it. everythign you said could be aplied to in house lawyers. if they're in-house, they're really not making money for the company, but theyre there to fix any legal problems that arise. if there were no in-house tech support agents at a particular company, they'd be calling me everytime they have a problem, paying me $50/hr for the support, and $100 just to show up at said location to see whats wrong.. and then i would be earning my company some money..
your views are really out of context, when you should be comparing the role of in-house support versus call-and-pay-for support. just liek if your company had in house lawyers over hire-and-pay-thru-the-nose layers..
"I have found that treating my userbase as people, and not as [...] trying to be mister 31337 BOFH."
oh come on, i challenge you to name me ONE upside to knowing more than everyone else other than the pleasure of shoving that fact down their throats on a daily basis?
"I have a 1.7GHz P4, with 256M of ram, and a 17" (non-flat screen) monitor. Obviously the ram is a sore spot since I have to run win2k."
not to be labled a flamer, but that made me laugh a bit, since i've had p200s running win2k on 64mb of ram easily... what you need to do is turn off kazaa, close slashdot, and do some work:D
actually when i was 13 i told my family that i no longer wanted to go to church with them and that i had serious dissagreements with the teachings of the bible. (im not athiest, i just believe the word of the bible translated and written by man, and thus currupted the meaning, but i wont get into that here)
so they got some church people came over to try to change my mind. The first thing i asked them was if God made the world in 7 days and then right after created adam and eve, how do they explain dinosaurs? to which they answered in the language the bible was written a "day" was simply a 'period of time' that could have ranged up to a few million years even.. so i asked if god created the earth in 7 periods of time, technically it could have been created in 700,000,000 years or something, why do they consider that such a huge feat? they really didnt have any noteworthy answers for me, and in the end they gave up and i was thankfully never obliged to attend church anymore-- in fact it was vaguely insinuated that i wasnt really welcome there anymore.. which only proved another of my suspiscions that they didnt really like free thinkers there (no im not saying all churches, but this one in particular)
Think of the road system. You maintain your connection to the system (driveway), while the government maintains the entire system.
hehe you're obviously not talking about canadian roads then.. well this municipality voted for us and we won a seat here, so they'll get a gigabit line upgrade.. this one voted for our opponent, oh look at that theres a huge outage there too, yeah we'll have someone come out to fix that sometime around next election year... enjoy your dialup!
hell i could even see the liberals DOSsing the servers in any conservative controled areas. While NDP supporters get on their knees and be thankfull for their 14.4 kbps speeds
they wouldnt have to do a whole hookup to the internet kind of deal, just everyone's ethernet connection going directly to a central location... i think its a great idea.. have 10/100 (dare i dream for 1000) megabit lines to share with your friends in the same town. isp's could compete for your bussines. switching isp could be as easy as one phone call, no waiting, boom instant PPPoE acount on the new provier, no 1-6 weeks waiting for a hookup and new modem to arrive, etc..
ah then you had my dream job. i always had email to talk with my gf all day, so i was never bored, even on slow days, not like i saw many slow days.
i could tell you about the nice 3 month long hell we went through with a constant queue of 60+ ppl waiting, and our employer refused to hire on new techs.
"P.S.: To be fair, the TS was nowhere near as bad as described in the article"
well you only worked there for 4 months.. my first 4 months we fine too, in fact i enjoyed my job for at least the first 6 months... once you get closer to a year, or 2, or 4, well i can only repeat what one poster wrote how it will wear a hole in your soul. it drains you, you have draconian rules, support policies, and call stats on one side, and screaming pissed off callers on the other, none of which is your fault, and basically your job is to be dumped on all day, having the life sqeezed out of you from both sides.
after being laid off, i now only make half of what i did before, strugling to make ends meet, and yet im happier and heathier now than i ever was in that job. things taste better, i have more energy, and i rediscovered my lost ability to smile again. i dont see it as being laid off so much as being paroled early for good behaviour.
i used to work for a call center that got its bussiness from a large isp here in canada. signed an NDA, cant mention names.
basically the way it worked was you call me, i WANTED to help you, but the help you need would take 15+ minutes of my time. people who did not maintain an average call time of 10 minutes get let go. Now, i may try to be a nice guy and help as many people as i can, but having income and feeding my family is just a tad more important to me than your adsl connection. Now the script thats provided is designed to work in a certain amount of time, as well as the huge list of things we wont support. i had a choice, go with the not so helpful and make you call more often script, or go with my own learned knowledge of troubleshooting and get you working as best i can.
at the end of the month, buddy who doesnt know that much, but follows the script to the letter, pisses people off (but since he followed procedures, his ass is covered), wastes a bunch of callers' time.. well he gets an award at the end of the month cause his call times ae so low. I on the other hand who spent the month bending over backwards (helping you find that mac address to your router instead of having you call the manufacturer, then call us back and waste more of your time) well i get a warning letter that if my stats dont improve, i will be let go...
the people you talk to on the other end of the phone are people too, and its not their fault that they have to be so unhelpful. in alot of cases they arent ignorant unhelpful bastards, they're just told that customer satisfaction and first call resolution takes a back seat to call times and call volume handled.
i tried playing the game for a while, but i never felt right comming home knowing that i really didnt HELP many people at all. so i went back to trying to help as much as possible, but found it impossible to maintain a low call time average while actually doing something for the customer. in the end i was let go because i "did not fit the company's bussiness profile" even though i did recieve several citations when an extreemely satisfied customer would write in praising my professionalism.
bitch and whine all you want, you're still not gonna be heard.. and that guy you talked to once a long time ago who went above and beyond? well go down to the ei office and you might meet up with him again.
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so i guess the new batch of p5's clocked at 3000 mhz will start as intel P5-1200 ?
also (sorry for the millions of posts)
who's to tell me that i can't make 2 copies for myself for my own personal use, and then lend one of those copies to someone on a very long term basis? or that my own personal use includes giving it to a friend?
by the time this ends, either the record companies are gonna get spanked by the law, or the law is going to get rewritten to be more specific.
well i wont talk out of my ass by saying that i know for sure, but if we want to split hairs on it, if i were stuck in court forced to defend myself, i would argue that making a file available on my pc for downloading is not the same as making a copy and giving it to someone, as until the downloader initiates a connection, there is no copy being made... the copy doesnt exist until it arrives complete at their computer.
the file is on my computer, just as the cd would be in my house.. the person enters my computer, requestes the file (asks me to borrow my cd), and the file being transmitted to their computer is the process of me lending them the cd, then when the file is complete, they have made the copy themselves, because none of this requires any intervention on my part...
the fact that the copy and send process are in the same step is where the companies are trying to wiggle out a court rulling making it ilegal.. if a p2p process actually moved the file from my computer to theirs, then made a copy, and then moved the orriginal back, there would be no room to split hairs and call it any different than me lending the person a CD.
thats where you get into semantics.. who is copying for who? when i share on kazaa or whatever, im not actually making a copy, you are when you download it from me, you're copying it from my computer down to yours.
it is neither ilegal to be the copier, or the lender of the copy.. i dont know the specific wording of the law, but i cant see how borrowing a cd or whatever and copying it can be legal while lending the cd to be copied is ilegal.
will the courts uphold the previous laws passed about fair use... we pay tarrifs on media as a result of the laws that give us the right to share and copy music.. you cant charge someone a fee like that and then sure them for excercising their rights.
im sick of working $9/hr jobs with no job security and little to no benifits.. i'd join the air force in a heart beat, but i'd never pass their entry requirements..
now if on the other hand they drafted me.. hello 45k(+)/year job + full benefits + affordable housing + job security + pension + way more stuff than my shitty private sector jobs...
just tell them youre a MSCSE (microsoft certified security expert)
at best they'll send you to work for the enemy
all it sounded like was blah-blah blah-blah to me...
i have to disagree with that.. medeocre movies are seen only once.. good movies last forever.. for example (and all you matrix haters will probly flame me) the fist time i saw the matrix was when a friend of mine brought over a telesync of it, i basicaly watched it because where i lived at the time wasnt going to be showing the movie for another 2 months...
when the movie was showing, i went out and watched it on the big screen too... and then when it came out on dvd, i bought it as well.. i now own the first matrix movie, the behind the scenes dvd, and the second one, and when the last one comes out, i'll buy that one too.. (i dont want to digress into a discussion of which sequel sucked, etc, but the first one was so good, i feel that its strong enough even to support the 2 sequels)
ahhh how i remember my good old poke 65497,0 :(
now i feel old
if you do not know what im talking about, you may not reply or mod this comment, thanks.. bye
maybe some day they'll have a burner that takes an inserted block of plactic, mold it into a cd, burn it, lable it, and then mold a labled case at the same time huh?
no.. now its just the crack talking
yeah, thats why i didnt want to seem like trolling.. my old place of work had 400-800 mhz systems each with 128-256 mb ram, all running nt4, which should have been smoking for the minimal web work we did, but all their spying software brought it all to a flaming wreckage.. i could only imagine how many QA reports contained blue screens and illegal ops
hmm thats so freaky cause every script kiddie i ever met online was 6'2 and 230lbs
i wonder if its a gentics thing we could track down, find out what makes peopel grow to 6'2 and weigh 230, and do the script kiddie thing?
we could call it the script kiddie gene!
im sorry, but that attitude offends me...
the reason it support personel are paid so little is because the things we're supporting you with are so easy, anyone could learn it if they had half a brain. I took a job doing support hoping my amassed knowledge would be put to use fixing real problems, i was dissalusioned to find i was stuck in the monotony of retarded problems like "i cant open my attachment" and the like.
we fix things.. just like your $40/hr mechanic, like your $200/hr lawer or doctor.. something's broke and you dont know how to fix it. everythign you said could be aplied to in house lawyers. if they're in-house, they're really not making money for the company, but theyre there to fix any legal problems that arise. if there were no in-house tech support agents at a particular company, they'd be calling me everytime they have a problem, paying me $50/hr for the support, and $100 just to show up at said location to see whats wrong.. and then i would be earning my company some money..
your views are really out of context, when you should be comparing the role of in-house support versus call-and-pay-for support. just liek if your company had in house lawyers over hire-and-pay-thru-the-nose layers..
think about it
"I have found that treating my userbase as people, and not as [...] trying to be mister 31337 BOFH."
oh come on, i challenge you to name me ONE upside to knowing more than everyone else other than the pleasure of shoving that fact down their throats on a daily basis?
"I have a 1.7GHz P4, with 256M of ram, and a 17" (non-flat screen) monitor. Obviously the ram is a sore spot since I have to run win2k."
:D
not to be labled a flamer, but that made me laugh a bit, since i've had p200s running win2k on 64mb of ram easily... what you need to do is turn off kazaa, close slashdot, and do some work
actually when i was 13 i told my family that i no longer wanted to go to church with them and that i had serious dissagreements with the teachings of the bible. (im not athiest, i just believe the word of the bible translated and written by man, and thus currupted the meaning, but i wont get into that here)
so they got some church people came over to try to change my mind. The first thing i asked them was if God made the world in 7 days and then right after created adam and eve, how do they explain dinosaurs? to which they answered in the language the bible was written a "day" was simply a 'period of time' that could have ranged up to a few million years even.. so i asked if god created the earth in 7 periods of time, technically it could have been created in 700,000,000 years or something, why do they consider that such a huge feat? they really didnt have any noteworthy answers for me, and in the end they gave up and i was thankfully never obliged to attend church anymore-- in fact it was vaguely insinuated that i wasnt really welcome there anymore.. which only proved another of my suspiscions that they didnt really like free thinkers there (no im not saying all churches, but this one in particular)
i made one, but i destroyed it when i switched to emacs
Think of the road system. You maintain your connection to the system (driveway), while the government maintains the entire system.
hehe you're obviously not talking about canadian roads then.. well this municipality voted for us and we won a seat here, so they'll get a gigabit line upgrade.. this one voted for our opponent, oh look at that theres a huge outage there too, yeah we'll have someone come out to fix that sometime around next election year... enjoy your dialup!
hell i could even see the liberals DOSsing the servers in any conservative controled areas.
While NDP supporters get on their knees and be thankfull for their 14.4 kbps speeds
they wouldnt have to do a whole hookup to the internet kind of deal, just everyone's ethernet connection going directly to a central location... i think its a great idea.. have 10/100 (dare i dream for 1000) megabit lines to share with your friends in the same town. isp's could compete for your bussines. switching isp could be as easy as one phone call, no waiting, boom instant PPPoE acount on the new provier, no 1-6 weeks waiting for a hookup and new modem to arrive, etc..
BSOD
i can Smell your email and i feel saturated by it!
ah then you had my dream job. i always had email to talk with my gf all day, so i was never bored, even on slow days, not like i saw many slow days.
i could tell you about the nice 3 month long hell we went through with a constant queue of 60+ ppl waiting, and our employer refused to hire on new techs.
"P.S.: To be fair, the TS was nowhere near as bad as described in the article"
well you only worked there for 4 months.. my first 4 months we fine too, in fact i enjoyed my job for at least the first 6 months... once you get closer to a year, or 2, or 4, well i can only repeat what one poster wrote how it will wear a hole in your soul. it drains you, you have draconian rules, support policies, and call stats on one side, and screaming pissed off callers on the other, none of which is your fault, and basically your job is to be dumped on all day, having the life sqeezed out of you from both sides.
after being laid off, i now only make half of what i did before, strugling to make ends meet, and yet im happier and heathier now than i ever was in that job. things taste better, i have more energy, and i rediscovered my lost ability to smile again. i dont see it as being laid off so much as being paroled early for good behaviour.
i used to work for a call center that got its bussiness from a large isp here in canada. signed an NDA, cant mention names.
basically the way it worked was you call me, i WANTED to help you, but the help you need would take 15+ minutes of my time. people who did not maintain an average call time of 10 minutes get let go. Now, i may try to be a nice guy and help as many people as i can, but having income and feeding my family is just a tad more important to me than your adsl connection. Now the script thats provided is designed to work in a certain amount of time, as well as the huge list of things we wont support. i had a choice, go with the not so helpful and make you call more often script, or go with my own learned knowledge of troubleshooting and get you working as best i can.
at the end of the month, buddy who doesnt know that much, but follows the script to the letter, pisses people off (but since he followed procedures, his ass is covered), wastes a bunch of callers' time.. well he gets an award at the end of the month cause his call times ae so low. I on the other hand who spent the month bending over backwards (helping you find that mac address to your router instead of having you call the manufacturer, then call us back and waste more of your time) well i get a warning letter that if my stats dont improve, i will be let go...
the people you talk to on the other end of the phone are people too, and its not their fault that they have to be so unhelpful. in alot of cases they arent ignorant unhelpful bastards, they're just told that customer satisfaction and first call resolution takes a back seat to call times and call volume handled.
i tried playing the game for a while, but i never felt right comming home knowing that i really didnt HELP many people at all. so i went back to trying to help as much as possible, but found it impossible to maintain a low call time average while actually doing something for the customer. in the end i was let go because i "did not fit the company's bussiness profile" even though i did recieve several citations when an extreemely satisfied customer would write in praising my professionalism.
bitch and whine all you want, you're still not gonna be heard.. and that guy you talked to once a long time ago who went above and beyond? well go down to the ei office and you might meet up with him again.
Thats how it was intended