What reasonably intelligent consumer is going to mistake a multi-billion dollar trademark that is recognized worldwide with an obscure, barely known (relatively speaking for you sensitive types) Lindows OS? Common, if Windows, MS and Gates aren't household names- regardless of whether you like the company or not -then I don't know what is. You would not only have to be part of some Eastern Nomdic Tribe from Zulazula, but live under a rock with several coats of slime and be a monkey to boot to have mistaken Bill Gates Windows for Lindows. Common now. Lets reel it back into reality here.
You have my agreements on the name choice and it's roll in sales, however. I recognize a joke when I see it, but it's really not nessisary or even desirable in my opinion.
"Boycott MS! Boycott Hotmail!" Didn't Slash just jun a story on calling the faceless masses a bunch of Monkies when it came to boycotting Yahoo for nearly the same reason?
The large majority of people will not hear your pleas in the crusade against free email and privacy advocation because the good out-weighs the bad for the average person. As for "all the alternatives" and "Tons of free email clients" out there. List them here. Now. Under this thread.
Nuf said. But this reminds me of a book called Earthweb by Marc Stiegler. The basic premise is that something is looking to destroy everything and everybody on Earth by sending giant Deathstar-like ships chalk full of weapondry to do the job (minus the planet killing beam). Since frontal assualts are useless against this thing (5th in a series), covert ops have the job of destroying the ship from the inside.
Anyway, while the squad makes onsite decisions how to destroy the ship, the entire population, linked via web, also contributes via point casts. Ideas are submitted via monitary involvement (if I remeber right), thus ensuring people aren't just spamming with ideas. Put up or shut up, in otherwords. Eventially some ideas gain popularity as the populations votes and a commander makes the decision on how to proceed. The ideas that made the most difference in the battle were given large cash awards. Sounded kinda like the topic at any rate. Even if "Aliens want to destroy the Earth" isn't your fare, Earthweb deals with some interesting social dynamics.
Another interesting concept was being able to charge people for sending you email. That sure as hell would cut down on spamming if you could charge any amount you desired for people to send you a message. Even.25 cents could add up given how much some of these spam clearing houses pump out...
My guess is that they were the Pioneers... The man on point. They had this really successful, kick ass idea and probably thought they were on solid enough legal grounds to do it. Heck, a lot of sites still think that disclaimer saying "you must erase this within 24 hrs, etc, etc, etc." is enough to keep the legal dogs of war at bay. What they actally thought is a mystery, but when unforseen problems like this do pop-up, the pioneers always take it on the chin.
You're right. A strait "File" sharing service should have gotten away with it, but Napster probably would have suffered the same fate eventially simply because an example needed to be made of them. The labels would have ran Nabster into the ground simply by tying it up in legal fees, let alone prosecution. What it did do was tame the wild frontier (cue sad french horns)...at the cost of it's life...
Of course, when your company is facing lawsuits from every angle as stated here in the Financial Times, you might have a bit more incentive to simply bow out. Especially if the only deal that could save Napster would turn it to crap in the process. I gotta respect anybody who turns down a $20 million dollars on the grounds of principle. Yeah, it hurts, but it sounds like Napster was going to be turned into another proprietary piece of shit service anyway. At least they didn't sell out.
I do like a few quotes from this artical... "The failure of Napster would represent the triumph of Hollywood over Silicon Valley..." Heh... While they're waving their victory flags, the world has gone and passed them by. Also note the quotes by Terry Semel (CEO of Yahoo) and Andy Grove (Chairman of Intel), in the last two paragraph.
...Something's brewing and it ain't a good thing? I know all this is "for the greater good" to help fight the RIAA, but the entire situation with Kazaa is starting to feel decidedly AOLish and it give me the willies. I feel the need to scrub myself incesently with lemon scented wetnaps whenever I hear about them anymore...
C) Is aware that their privacy is at stake and feeds Yahoo bogus info, doesn't accept their "trusted" partners and throws away any other low yield ads that get sent down the pipe.
Yeah, I saw the word "majority" too, but the field is just a bit wider than choices (A) and (B)
I love how the destruction of the customers personal property in the name of copywrite laws just became envogue, even if you're not a pirate. Never have I seen a better case of "we don't need no stinkin' customers". Heck, even the military tests their weapons on inert targets before actually deploying them....
Yeah, while I don't mind yahoo too much, their increasing invasive tactics are starting to worry me. net you probably won't be able to log in without answering those questions! Guess it'll be time to break out Exchange in the near future.
I just love the "We're more informed than thou" attitude this artical seems to have dredged up. I'm a Yahoo Email user. Did I give them any legitimate contact info when I signed up? No. Do I subscribe to their assnine "trusted partners" emailing lists, helping to build a retail database on me? No. The only thing I get is their stupid little cookie-cutter ads they send to everybody with an account and my box isn't exactly flooded with them either. What do I do with these? Throw them away. There. That wasn't too hard now, was it? Maybe, just maybe worth the price of a free email account? Nahhhhh.... Could that be why people just don't care? Because it's mostly a good deal? What!? Never.
And while all the elitists out there are focused on their online privacy, when was the last time you used your Visa? Mastercard? Gee, no privacy issues there. Nobody is building a retail database on the things you purchase and selling them quietly to anybody willing to pay, are they? Or how about those of you with some form of "smart savings grocery card"? Don't get that physical spam IRL, do you? I could go on and on, but the net is sexy and controverisal. Don't pay attention to the fact your privacy is leaking like a sieve in every other area of your life.
First, the laws that govern society are only laws because of the mutual consent of the majority of people. Once a law is no longer deemed to be in their best intrest by the people themselves, it becomes little more than words on paper, like a certain tax on tea. It takes very little imagination to see this being the case with internet radio and music in general since nobody that I know of respects either the RIAA, CARP or the politicans backing their measures. Downloading copywrited MP3s is illegle, yet how many of us do it anyway? A law only has the force we, the people subject to the law, give it. Like the US Revolutionary War, the Establishment is looking to maintain it's powerbase at the expense of it's customers, a situation that never remains stable in the long run, either resulting in increased tyranny (judge the effects of the RIAA for yourself) or revolution in some form, normally detrimental to the Establishment. For that reason alone, even if the dreaded crackdown against internet radio should occure, nobody will listen or care about the new laws. It will go underground or beyond the limits of RIAA enforcement like so many other "counter-culture" movements have done. it's a little too late to kill MP3 and it's a little to late to kill net radio.
And I seem to rememeber that way back when, artists actually paid the station to have their music on the air when radio first started up...
No. The Jaguar sux. Hardcore. Actually, maybe the hardware doesn't but I remember when I bought mine. I said, that's cool... But then I began to realize that beyond a handful of games, everything else was crap. And then I was stupid enough to pick up the toilet bowl CDROM and played "Monty Python's Air Combat", otherwise known as Blue Lightining, and all my hopes for the system crumbled. I'm sorry, but beyond the handful of classics (some of which can be picked up on other consoles easily these days), there's simply no way you can compare it to the arcade emulating console of the Neo. And I don't even like the Neo Geo.
Note parent doesn't list his country of origin. Hypocrite. Lets review some facts-
In 1992, the United States ratified the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights. Article 6(5) of this international human rights treaty requires that the death penalty not be used on those who committed their crimes when they were below the age of 18
At which point I have to ask the author of the comment if he considers 18 year olds "childern". Also note....
Countries which have the death penalty for ordinary crimes, of which most have a limiting age of 18.
AFGHANISTAN, ALGERIA, ANTIGUA AND BARBUDA, ARMENIA, BAHAMAS, BAHRAIN, BANGLADESH, BARBADOS, BELARUS, BELIZE, BENIN, BOTSWANA, BURUNDI, CAMEROON, CHAD, CHILE, CHINA, COMOROS, CONGO (Democratic Republic), CUBA, DOMINICA, EGYPT, EQUATORIAL GUINEA, ERITREA, ETHIOPIA, GABON, GHANA, GUATEMALA, GUINEA, GUYANA, INDIA, INDONESIA, IRAN, IRAQ, JAMAICA, JAPAN, JORDAN, KAZAKSTAN, KENYA, KUWAIT, KYRGYZSTAN, LAOS, LEBANON, LESOTHO, LIBERIA, LIBYA, MALAWI, MALAYSIA, MAURITANIA, MONGOLIA, MOROCCO, MYANMAR, NIGERIA, NORTH KOREA, OMAN, PAKISTAN, PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY, PHILIPPINES, QATAR, RUSSIAN FEDERATION, RWANDA, SAINT CHRISTOPHER & NEVIS, SAINT LUCIA, SAINT VINCENT & GRENADINES, SAUDI ARABIA, SIERRA LEONE, SINGAPORE, SOMALIA, SOUTH KOREA, SUDAN, SWAZILAND, SYRIA, TAIWAN, TAJIKISTAN, TANZANIA, THAILAND, TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO, TUNISIA, UGANDA, UNITED ARAB EMIRATES, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, UZBEKISTAN, VIET NAM, YEMEN, YUGOSLAVIA (Federal Republic), ZAMBIA, ZIMBABWE
So please, check your facts before spewing your righteous indignation upon people who actually know better.
For the rest, sorry for the off-topic. I just can't stand these people.
Yeah, and this had to be one of the most expensive consoles ever sold with the most expensive games to boot. I'm one for playability, but damn. If only every console had such a long shelf life and retained their value as well as this one... Maybe my NG Pocket will do the same ^__^
Whatever pays the bills, and all that. At least it's better than the story of a college professor using school funds to go to strip bars to not only enjoy the scenery, but partake of it as well, then show his sex ed class the videos he took of the excursion... Really, I ain't lyin.
Why did I see that one coming....
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I didn't even say MP3 was better. It's just the standard. Ogg, like betamax, is destined for that gravyard of niche products, regardless of how good it is.
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You can't breed out stupidity or rule out nasty ass-bad luck. This artical seems to infer you can do both.
Good point. Guard that treasure chest.
Amen brotha.
What reasonably intelligent consumer is going to mistake a multi-billion dollar trademark that is recognized worldwide with an obscure, barely known (relatively speaking for you sensitive types) Lindows OS? Common, if Windows, MS and Gates aren't household names- regardless of whether you like the company or not -then I don't know what is. You would not only have to be part of some Eastern Nomdic Tribe from Zulazula, but live under a rock with several coats of slime and be a monkey to boot to have mistaken Bill Gates Windows for Lindows. Common now. Lets reel it back into reality here.
You have my agreements on the name choice and it's roll in sales, however. I recognize a joke when I see it, but it's really not nessisary or even desirable in my opinion.
"...But for all that is good and holy, Judge, shut Lindows down!
"Boycott MS! Boycott Hotmail!" Didn't Slash just jun a story on calling the faceless masses a bunch of Monkies when it came to boycotting Yahoo for nearly the same reason?
The large majority of people will not hear your pleas in the crusade against free email and privacy advocation because the good out-weighs the bad for the average person. As for "all the alternatives" and "Tons of free email clients" out there. List them here. Now. Under this thread.
Speak for yourself. Sorry, but darwin wasn't all that.
Nuf said. But this reminds me of a book called Earthweb by Marc Stiegler. The basic premise is that something is looking to destroy everything and everybody on Earth by sending giant Deathstar-like ships chalk full of weapondry to do the job (minus the planet killing beam). Since frontal assualts are useless against this thing (5th in a series), covert ops have the job of destroying the ship from the inside.
.25 cents could add up given how much some of these spam clearing houses pump out...
Anyway, while the squad makes onsite decisions how to destroy the ship, the entire population, linked via web, also contributes via point casts. Ideas are submitted via monitary involvement (if I remeber right), thus ensuring people aren't just spamming with ideas. Put up or shut up, in otherwords. Eventially some ideas gain popularity as the populations votes and a commander makes the decision on how to proceed. The ideas that made the most difference in the battle were given large cash awards. Sounded kinda like the topic at any rate. Even if "Aliens want to destroy the Earth" isn't your fare, Earthweb deals with some interesting social dynamics.
Another interesting concept was being able to charge people for sending you email. That sure as hell would cut down on spamming if you could charge any amount you desired for people to send you a message. Even
My guess is that they were the Pioneers... The man on point. They had this really successful, kick ass idea and probably thought they were on solid enough legal grounds to do it. Heck, a lot of sites still think that disclaimer saying "you must erase this within 24 hrs, etc, etc, etc." is enough to keep the legal dogs of war at bay. What they actally thought is a mystery, but when unforseen problems like this do pop-up, the pioneers always take it on the chin.
...at the cost of it's life...
You're right. A strait "File" sharing service should have gotten away with it, but Napster probably would have suffered the same fate eventially simply because an example needed to be made of them. The labels would have ran Nabster into the ground simply by tying it up in legal fees, let alone prosecution. What it did do was tame the wild frontier (cue sad french horns)
Of course, when your company is facing lawsuits from every angle as stated here in the Financial Times, you might have a bit more incentive to simply bow out. Especially if the only deal that could save Napster would turn it to crap in the process. I gotta respect anybody who turns down a $20 million dollars on the grounds of principle. Yeah, it hurts, but it sounds like Napster was going to be turned into another proprietary piece of shit service anyway. At least they didn't sell out.
I do like a few quotes from this artical... "The failure of Napster would represent the triumph of Hollywood over Silicon Valley..." Heh... While they're waving their victory flags, the world has gone and passed them by. Also note the quotes by Terry Semel (CEO of Yahoo) and Andy Grove (Chairman of Intel), in the last two paragraph.
...Something's brewing and it ain't a good thing? I know all this is "for the greater good" to help fight the RIAA, but the entire situation with Kazaa is starting to feel decidedly AOLish and it give me the willies. I feel the need to scrub myself incesently with lemon scented wetnaps whenever I hear about them anymore...
What, there isn't a group out there that...
C) Is aware that their privacy is at stake and feeds Yahoo bogus info, doesn't accept their "trusted" partners and throws away any other low yield ads that get sent down the pipe.
Yeah, I saw the word "majority" too, but the field is just a bit wider than choices (A) and (B)
Oh, by all means, Mod thy parent up! That was probably the best analogy I've seen on display here... Hypocrisy at it's best.
When will someone get a clue and put a stop to this type of digital extortion?
...but I guess it won't be the author of the artical.
If not me, who? If not now, when?
I love how the destruction of the customers personal property in the name of copywrite laws just became envogue, even if you're not a pirate. Never have I seen a better case of "we don't need no stinkin' customers". Heck, even the military tests their weapons on inert targets before actually deploying them....
Yeah, while I don't mind yahoo too much, their increasing invasive tactics are starting to worry me. net you probably won't be able to log in without answering those questions! Guess it'll be time to break out Exchange in the near future.
I just love the "We're more informed than thou" attitude this artical seems to have dredged up. I'm a Yahoo Email user. Did I give them any legitimate contact info when I signed up? No. Do I subscribe to their assnine "trusted partners" emailing lists, helping to build a retail database on me? No. The only thing I get is their stupid little cookie-cutter ads they send to everybody with an account and my box isn't exactly flooded with them either. What do I do with these? Throw them away. There. That wasn't too hard now, was it? Maybe, just maybe worth the price of a free email account? Nahhhhh.... Could that be why people just don't care? Because it's mostly a good deal? What!? Never.
And while all the elitists out there are focused on their online privacy, when was the last time you used your Visa? Mastercard? Gee, no privacy issues there. Nobody is building a retail database on the things you purchase and selling them quietly to anybody willing to pay, are they? Or how about those of you with some form of "smart savings grocery card"? Don't get that physical spam IRL, do you? I could go on and on, but the net is sexy and controverisal. Don't pay attention to the fact your privacy is leaking like a sieve in every other area of your life.
Hope my Rio Volt SP250 gets a firmware update to support OGG if that's the case ^__^
First, the laws that govern society are only laws because of the mutual consent of the majority of people. Once a law is no longer deemed to be in their best intrest by the people themselves, it becomes little more than words on paper, like a certain tax on tea. It takes very little imagination to see this being the case with internet radio and music in general since nobody that I know of respects either the RIAA, CARP or the politicans backing their measures. Downloading copywrited MP3s is illegle, yet how many of us do it anyway? A law only has the force we, the people subject to the law, give it. Like the US Revolutionary War, the Establishment is looking to maintain it's powerbase at the expense of it's customers, a situation that never remains stable in the long run, either resulting in increased tyranny (judge the effects of the RIAA for yourself) or revolution in some form, normally detrimental to the Establishment. For that reason alone, even if the dreaded crackdown against internet radio should occure, nobody will listen or care about the new laws. It will go underground or beyond the limits of RIAA enforcement like so many other "counter-culture" movements have done. it's a little too late to kill MP3 and it's a little to late to kill net radio.
And I seem to rememeber that way back when, artists actually paid the station to have their music on the air when radio first started up...
Obviously, you didn't get the point. Pride has nothing to do with the facts, which were clearly mistated by the parent. haters, haters everywhere.
No. The Jaguar sux. Hardcore. Actually, maybe the hardware doesn't but I remember when I bought mine. I said, that's cool... But then I began to realize that beyond a handful of games, everything else was crap. And then I was stupid enough to pick up the toilet bowl CDROM and played "Monty Python's Air Combat", otherwise known as Blue Lightining, and all my hopes for the system crumbled. I'm sorry, but beyond the handful of classics (some of which can be picked up on other consoles easily these days), there's simply no way you can compare it to the arcade emulating console of the Neo. And I don't even like the Neo Geo.
Note parent doesn't list his country of origin. Hypocrite. Lets review some facts-
In 1992, the United States ratified the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights. Article 6(5) of this international human rights treaty requires that the death penalty not be used on those who committed their crimes when they were below the age of 18
At which point I have to ask the author of the comment if he considers 18 year olds "childern". Also note....
Countries which have the death penalty for ordinary crimes, of which most have a limiting age of 18.
AFGHANISTAN, ALGERIA, ANTIGUA AND BARBUDA, ARMENIA, BAHAMAS, BAHRAIN, BANGLADESH, BARBADOS, BELARUS, BELIZE, BENIN, BOTSWANA, BURUNDI, CAMEROON, CHAD, CHILE, CHINA, COMOROS, CONGO (Democratic Republic), CUBA, DOMINICA, EGYPT, EQUATORIAL GUINEA, ERITREA, ETHIOPIA, GABON, GHANA, GUATEMALA, GUINEA, GUYANA, INDIA, INDONESIA, IRAN, IRAQ, JAMAICA, JAPAN, JORDAN, KAZAKSTAN, KENYA, KUWAIT, KYRGYZSTAN, LAOS, LEBANON, LESOTHO, LIBERIA, LIBYA, MALAWI, MALAYSIA, MAURITANIA, MONGOLIA, MOROCCO, MYANMAR, NIGERIA, NORTH KOREA, OMAN, PAKISTAN, PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY, PHILIPPINES, QATAR, RUSSIAN FEDERATION, RWANDA, SAINT CHRISTOPHER & NEVIS, SAINT LUCIA, SAINT VINCENT & GRENADINES, SAUDI ARABIA, SIERRA LEONE, SINGAPORE, SOMALIA, SOUTH KOREA, SUDAN, SWAZILAND, SYRIA, TAIWAN, TAJIKISTAN, TANZANIA, THAILAND, TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO, TUNISIA, UGANDA, UNITED ARAB EMIRATES, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, UZBEKISTAN, VIET NAM, YEMEN, YUGOSLAVIA (Federal Republic), ZAMBIA, ZIMBABWE
So please, check your facts before spewing your righteous indignation upon people who actually know better.
For the rest, sorry for the off-topic. I just can't stand these people.
Yeah, and this had to be one of the most expensive consoles ever sold with the most expensive games to boot. I'm one for playability, but damn. If only every console had such a long shelf life and retained their value as well as this one... Maybe my NG Pocket will do the same ^__^
Whatever pays the bills, and all that. At least it's better than the story of a college professor using school funds to go to strip bars to not only enjoy the scenery, but partake of it as well, then show his sex ed class the videos he took of the excursion... Really, I ain't lyin.
I didn't even say MP3 was better. It's just the standard. Ogg, like betamax, is destined for that gravyard of niche products, regardless of how good it is.