You have a multitude of applications, varying versions of operating systems, and scores of browser versions out there.
Is it REALLY any surprise that there are security holes like this? The miracle is that there aren't MORE.
Note: I'm NOT saying that these holes aren't a bad thing and shouldn't be patched. But this idiotic notion of a "safe" app just irks the shit outta me.
The only "safe" app is one that has absoloutely no interaction with other programs or the user whatsoever. (IOW it don't exist.)
Not really. A hundred mid-towers can fit on a few large three-tier roll-away carts.
This'll fill a small room. But an entire basement? Not really.
The REAL problem becomes supplying power for all of them without constantly blowing a breaker, setting the house on fire (through electrical or thermal means), or cooking the systems by producing too much heat.....
Not that I've ever tried such a thing...no...not me...
"his is important because "communism" the political ideology generally tries to apply extreme "socialism" as economic policy and has basically nothing to do with "communism" the economic model aside from the political parties that misleadingly stole the name."
Typical neo-commie bullshit doublespeak. Purpose? To try to forcibly decouple the failures of the past from the failures you'd drive us to in the future doing the SAME DAMN THING.
"The most common example of this would be the family unit, which comprises a communist cell by buying and selling goods and services collectively (although these cell sizes are shrinking in the US)."
Ah, the farm unit. The one that's so heavily subsidized in this country.
"Other applications of communism that have stood the test of time are.."
BULL! Being self-sufficient is "standing the test of time. Taking money from the government subsidies is merely a way of prolonging the inevitable. Such communities, when left to their own devices DO NOT WORK.
"monasteries"
Generally subsidized
"co-op housing"
Subsidized
"co-op stores"
Subsidized
"credit unions"
Controlled by government regulation after unregulated ones crashed. And now as subsidized as a standard bank.
"municipalities"
Don't give me this shit. A municipality is NOT an unsubsidized, free-standing unit.
"Most Americans seem to have some messed up ideas about communism and socialism"
Yup. But being that this IS America, we allow these socialists and communists to have their own opinions anyhow. So long as they don't infringe upon the rights of others.
"For example, public schools are an example of socialism"
Subsidized by the districts they reside in. And by state and federal funding.
If communism is saying "we're so successful" while standing there begging for hand-outs, we need LESS of it in this country, not MORE.
Note, I am NOT saying that some modicum of enlightened self-interest doesn't urge some mutual cooperation. But calling it "communism" is merely a demonstration that you have, at best, only a cursory grasp of the social dynamics involved.
I wonder what this "analyst" actually knows about networking and network security... Probably just another futures snake-oil salesman.
We're just going to put everything naked out on the public Intarweb tubes thingee and do it WIRELESSLY?
I have two words for that idea.
MY ASS!
Why the hell would any sane (and even most of the insane) network administrations trade centralized threat management control for redundant controls on each and every box? I mean, yeah, the power is there to do that. But for Bob's sake WHY? Common wisdom is to SHRINK your attack surface area. Not MULTIPLY it. And at update time, instead of pushing one patch, once, you have to push one patch n-times?
And why in the name of Bob would you do this wirelessly? What the hell was he smoking when he thought this up? Sure, there may be more secure wireless implementations down the road than the primitive stuff we have now. But THINK! Do you REALLY want to be blasting your traffic to any and everyone with a receiver? At least with a wired solution, they have to take the trouble to locate you on the network first, then take the trouble to capture packets.
Unless they thought that the cost of licensing was less than fighting a nice, protracted court case. Because, as the SCO case has shown, court cases are exceptionally inexpensive right?
Tell that to someone trying to trace down a nasty software conflict, only to be told that the crash was caused by *nothing*, since DTrace wouldn't report on a "protected" app. ESPECIALLY a buggy piece of crap like iTunes.
They're going to keep the flawed report out there, so they can keep screaming about the wrong statistics and simply create corroborating reports in the future.
If they're selectively telling this app NOT to log "certain types of traffic", and give no notification of such, or allow the functionality to be restored, then it's CRIPPLED.
I'm so sick of apologists telling me that stuff that's broken is broken for a good reason and that I should be glad someone deigned to allow me to hack it back to some semblance of functionality without getting sued into oblivion!
If you really think this is funny, I invite you to pay for a nice booth at CES, spend a few grand on a nice video production, then have the Gizmodo guys come and shut you down.
It's always funny when it's someone else's money...
This is somewhat like an asshole with an airhorn coming in and blasting off during a demo.
These companies come and spend thousands of dollars to set up and display their product.
A lot of these products have some sort of video content. Usually necessitating a television or computer monitor.
This sort of thing is disruptive to the display and detracts from the message these people are trying to deliver. That they've payed for the the right to deliver.
Additionally, it detracts from the experience the attendees are expecting (and in some cases, have paid) to get.
Yeah, it's funny and cool until you calm down and think about the ramifications. And if the guys who make the TV-B-Gone actually DID send these to the guys at Gizmodo for this express purpuse, I think the CEA may have a few things to say to them...in court.
Because you need the actual physical presence of the card before you can acquire the music.
Yay, you can get it through Spamazon. And wait 3-4 days for it to arrive.
Instead of signing in to an actual SERVICE, setting up an account, hooking it to a credit card, paypal, gift card, etc, and start buying stuff IMMEDIATELY.
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[Windows User] WUZZAT?
You have a multitude of applications, varying versions of operating systems, and scores of browser versions out there.
Is it REALLY any surprise that there are security holes like this? The miracle is that there aren't MORE.
Note: I'm NOT saying that these holes aren't a bad thing and shouldn't be patched. But this idiotic notion of a "safe" app just irks the shit outta me.
The only "safe" app is one that has absoloutely no interaction with other programs or the user whatsoever. (IOW it don't exist.)
Not really. A hundred mid-towers can fit on a few large three-tier roll-away carts.
....
This'll fill a small room. But an entire basement? Not really.
The REAL problem becomes supplying power for all of them without constantly blowing a breaker, setting the house on fire (through electrical or thermal means), or cooking the systems by producing too much heat.
Not that I've ever tried such a thing...no...not me...
*Whistle*
Now, more than ever, I am glad that Microsoft is getting rid of that grubby XP.
Wait! DAMMIT! Fscking mirror universe!
The only thing they know to do is burn money.
There. Fixed it for ya!
"his is important because "communism" the political ideology generally tries to apply extreme "socialism" as economic policy and has basically nothing to do with "communism" the economic model aside from the political parties that misleadingly stole the name."
Typical neo-commie bullshit doublespeak. Purpose? To try to forcibly decouple the failures of the past from the failures you'd drive us to in the future doing the SAME DAMN THING.
"The most common example of this would be the family unit, which comprises a communist cell by buying and selling goods and services collectively (although these cell sizes are shrinking in the US)."
Ah, the farm unit. The one that's so heavily subsidized in this country.
"Other applications of communism that have stood the test of time are.."
BULL! Being self-sufficient is "standing the test of time. Taking money from the government subsidies is merely a way of prolonging the inevitable. Such communities, when left to their own devices DO NOT WORK.
"monasteries"
Generally subsidized
"co-op housing"
Subsidized
"co-op stores"
Subsidized
"credit unions"
Controlled by government regulation after unregulated ones crashed. And now as subsidized as a standard bank.
"municipalities"
Don't give me this shit. A municipality is NOT an unsubsidized, free-standing unit.
"Most Americans seem to have some messed up ideas about communism and socialism"
Yup. But being that this IS America, we allow these socialists and communists to have their own opinions anyhow. So long as they don't infringe upon the rights of others.
"For example, public schools are an example of socialism"
Subsidized by the districts they reside in. And by state and federal funding.
If communism is saying "we're so successful" while standing there begging for hand-outs, we need LESS of it in this country, not MORE.
Note, I am NOT saying that some modicum of enlightened self-interest doesn't urge some mutual cooperation. But calling it "communism" is merely a demonstration that you have, at best, only a cursory grasp of the social dynamics involved.
Duck and cover merely means your ass gets roasted a few microseconds before the rest of you...
I wonder what this "analyst" actually knows about networking and network security... Probably just another futures snake-oil salesman.
We're just going to put everything naked out on the public Intarweb tubes thingee and do it WIRELESSLY?
I have two words for that idea.
MY ASS!
Why the hell would any sane (and even most of the insane) network administrations trade centralized threat management control for redundant controls on each and every box? I mean, yeah, the power is there to do that. But for Bob's sake WHY? Common wisdom is to SHRINK your attack surface area. Not MULTIPLY it. And at update time, instead of pushing one patch, once, you have to push one patch n-times?
And why in the name of Bob would you do this wirelessly? What the hell was he smoking when he thought this up? Sure, there may be more secure wireless implementations down the road than the primitive stuff we have now. But THINK! Do you REALLY want to be blasting your traffic to any and everyone with a receiver? At least with a wired solution, they have to take the trouble to locate you on the network first, then take the trouble to capture packets.
Unless they thought that the cost of licensing was less than fighting a nice, protracted court case. Because, as the SCO case has shown, court cases are exceptionally inexpensive right?
Likely what you'll need is a program that fills the drive several times.
Enjoy your new "restless leg" syndrome!
Tell that to someone trying to trace down a nasty software conflict, only to be told that the crash was caused by *nothing*, since DTrace wouldn't report on a "protected" app. ESPECIALLY a buggy piece of crap like iTunes.
They're going to keep the flawed report out there, so they can keep screaming about the wrong statistics and simply create corroborating reports in the future.
Nothing to see here. Move along!
Simply because a fanboi doesn't see the need for full dtrace functionality doesn't mean it's a Good Thing to disable it.
Doing so is simply the first step on the slippery slope to disabling it for other things.
If you want to pay someone for the privilege of computing on a system that's essentially a black box, more power to you.
Other people don't.
I call BULLSHIT.
If they're selectively telling this app NOT to log "certain types of traffic", and give no notification of such, or allow the functionality to be restored, then it's CRIPPLED.
I'm so sick of apologists telling me that stuff that's broken is broken for a good reason and that I should be glad someone deigned to allow me to hack it back to some semblance of functionality without getting sued into oblivion!
Actually, the only way to be "sure" is to nuke them in person.
Otherwise there's always the real possibility that they were able to take cover.
Normally I don't advocate cracking someone's site. It's childish and petty. Kinda like the RIAA itself.
But, for some reason, I'm having a really hard time working up any real sense of moral outrage over it.
This probably makes me a bad, biased person.
C'est la vie!
So you see the ring and your XBox dies...
There's a movie in there somewhere...
That'd cut into my [InsertList]
[InsertList]
1: Distributed.net
2: Folding@Home
3: SETI@Home
4: Gaming
5: PR0N.
[/InsertList]
MAKING babies? No. HAVING babies? RAISING babies? HELL FUCKING YES!
At least with something like WoW, any sleep you lose is your OWN choice!
=)
Of course Intel and AMD are going to say this. For them, it's the truth.
Intel: Has fabs
AMD: Has fabs
nVidia: Doesn't has fabs....
Am you be getting mine picture?
-- Warning! Grammar check be corrupt! AYB!
If you really think this is funny, I invite you to pay for a nice booth at CES, spend a few grand on a nice video production, then have the Gizmodo guys come and shut you down.
It's always funny when it's someone else's money...
This is somewhat like an asshole with an airhorn coming in and blasting off during a demo.
These companies come and spend thousands of dollars to set up and display their product.
A lot of these products have some sort of video content. Usually necessitating a television or computer monitor.
This sort of thing is disruptive to the display and detracts from the message these people are trying to deliver. That they've payed for the the right to deliver.
Additionally, it detracts from the experience the attendees are expecting (and in some cases, have paid) to get.
Yeah, it's funny and cool until you calm down and think about the ramifications. And if the guys who make the TV-B-Gone actually DID send these to the guys at Gizmodo for this express purpuse, I think the CEA may have a few things to say to them...in court.
"driver attempting to steer his vehicle to the right was involuntarily taken to the left."
;-)
Uh. Sounds about right...
Simply because I may not have a better solution doesn't stop a bad idea from being bad.
Because you need the actual physical presence of the card before you can acquire the music.
Yay, you can get it through Spamazon. And wait 3-4 days for it to arrive.
Instead of signing in to an actual SERVICE, setting up an account, hooking it to a credit card, paypal, gift card, etc, and start buying stuff IMMEDIATELY.
This is the very definition of Head Up Ass.