Unfortunately, workalikes are going to make consistency difficult.
Actually, Camino is really the only workalike left around. By workalike I mean is built from the same source code base, customized. I guess my terminology isn't very good here.
Standarize icons and names. Make them visually appealing. Make the default styles blend in with the OS/Window Manager.
I have to laugh, one example was of the two Mozilla apps placed prominently on the Start Menu right where IE and Outlook Express are by default. Is this an option in a full installer? If not, put it there.:) Make it an option to gently 'replace' IE and Outlook Express. Replace the shortcuts, import favorites, e-mails, and contacts by default. Import Server Settings, proxies, the whole nine yards.
Then people like myself, who run an ISP can standardize on Mozilla and when I send my installers out I can have them install the app. Even better, have a custom installer file so I can add in OUR servers and make them default in the Mail application.
Now no matter what platform my installers run into, they can install my Mozilla package and have the right settings. Minimalistic training required.
Unless they've changed something, they have a habit of having everything including the kitchen sink included.
I guess that's good. Most everything is behind a version or two by the time it hits your hands though (in the past).
Perhaps I'm simply spoiled by the FreeBSD ports collection (any good package manager really) where I run cvsup to get the ports collection current, then I can either build from source or pkg_add -r pkgname and install the binary quickly across a network.
Don't take this a knock though, SuSE was the *nix that I learned on, and it's still awesome. Just seems somewhat unwieldy to bundle so much software in that is going to go out of date so quickly.
I neglected to mention something here that wasn't pointed out to me ahead of time.
Apple has some REALLY good remote admin tools you can use to control just about all of the services on an OSX server, and I'm not talking about Apple Remote Desktop.
Think of all the service controls, IIS type stuff, Active Directory, you name it under windows. Now right a native application that will control those things from a remote system without having to have a terminal on that system. That's what these tools do.
It's really slick. Webmin is there for when you don't have these apps handy. You really have to try them to realize their value.
I decommed several cobalts and replaced them with XServes when i came in. My clients have been nothing but happy with them.
Load webmin for the web interface, use squirrelmail for webmail.
DNS comes preloaded.
Of course, if it hurts your pocketbook, you could always go with a Dual G5 for the same price. That of course means you'd use a wire rack instead of a rackmount telecom rack, but it depends on your space constraints. I have both available to me.
In other words, it provides opportunities to explore music. In this sense, it's similar to the old Napster, in which users could not only
steal from each other but also chat about their collections and post messages.
Ermmm...last I checked, I didn't take anything away from anyone else, in fact I was often welcomed to COPY files from other people.
Sorry. The words "Microsoft", "IE", and "User Experience" in the same sentence as "user will be prompted to load each ActiveX control"....
Brings a tear to me eye.:)
You mean...something GOOD came out of a lawsuit with Microsoft? W00t!
On the OSS side of things, this should be a (small) boon to projects like Konq and Mozilla that aren't going to require all the online applications and plugins to be re-coded.
I know inherently what I've just said is wrong, but hear me out.
The target market of the above services are more or less ignorant that the product they are consuming has to be paid for by someone. When I turn on the radio do I have to think about paying for it? No. When I turn on the TV? Well, not most of the time, okay there's cable and/or satellite, but I could just use an antenna, and I usually don't think about having to pay for a specific show and with radio I don't have to think about paying for a specific song.
I think this was more true when Napster was out, and maybe it is now, but people generally don't want to have to pay for music. Not because they can't, but because they don't feel they should have to. They view the distribution service as something that is free, just like TV and Radio. Most people don't notice or realize that TV and Radio are paid for by adv. spots. Thus the reason these DVR's are getting into so much hot water.
I tend to fall along those lines as well. Yes, the music needs to be paid for somehow, and iTunes is reasonable in it's methodology, but even iTunes is a step backwards from Napster.
Not saying I have the right answer, but I really feel that's the predicament we're in. Napster more or less got it right the first time, and had they not been shut down they would have a monopoloy on P2P right now, and no one would have given Kazaa a second thought unless Nap started doing something stupid like bundling in Spyware...oh wait, that doesn't stop people.
I have a friend that is finishing up his law enforcement degree, and I have family that are police officers.
You know what? They don't want to have to work any harder than they have to, just like the rest of us, and they certainly don't like to 'work in vain'. That is, give a citation, or make an arrest, just to see it not hold up in court because they had some detail out of line.
How would you like spending weeks shoring up and securing a server, only to see a hacker get in because you overlooked a minor, but very obvious detail?
A cop giving you a citation for 1 mile over would be doing more or less that. It's wasting their time and yours. I've been told time and again that 'quotas don't exist', but raises and promotions are based on busts and citations. Sure, there may not be a quota, but you'd best believe there is motivation to place as many arrests and citations as possible, but you also want them to stand up in court if it ever goes there.
LMAO! So in other words, not very invasive at all. Besides, last time I looked checking books out of the library and renting videos was legal. Maybe because both are paid for! (Libraries operate on taxes in case you didn't know. That's what makes it a Public Library.)
You're overlooking the point here. The point is not getting at the books or videos. It's someone being able to track what you're doing. You checked out 'book x', you rented 'video y'. You ate rocky road, looked autopr0n, and passed out on the floor at 3am.
Hmm, what was I saying? I knew I had a poi....oooh, a shiny!
You talk like there's a *wrong* time to grind your axe when I comes to M$.:P
I have to agree with the parent though. They are moving toward higher media integration, which is copying Apple to the hilt. Interoperability and security have ALWAYS been low on their hit list. They don't care if what they make works with anyone else, because they have so much market saturation that they can more or less say "screw the rest of you".
*sigh* I always have to explain to people that 90% of the OS's out there are great, standards driven, and work well together...there's all sorts of free software out there, that you can even modify the source code to make work the way you want.
The problem is, Close to 90% or more of computers are running Windows instead. I still have some people I encounter that have never heard of the concept of a computer without windows, and get downright defensive of the concept of a computer WITHOUT windows.:(
I mean really. The prototype machines look much like an iMac with it's screen pushed down to the desk, and that wallpaper doesn't look ANYTHING like Apple's default.
Okay, so there are only so many form factors to make an LCD/Keyboard desktop-type computer, fine. But the rest is just more innovation taken from Apple. Apologies if any OSS predates anything I've mentioned about Apple in this case.
Iknow we've been saying this for years now, but um...
I mean really. The prototype machines look much like an iMac with it's screen pushed down to the desk, and that wallpaper doesn't look ANYTHING like Apple's default.
Okay, so there are only so many form factors to make an LCD/Keyboard desktop-type computer, fine. But the rest is just more innovation taken from Apple. Apologies if any OSS predates anything I've mentioned about Apple in this case.
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Now *that's* the stuff.
I'm heartbroken here.
You go getting my hopes up like, and then you don't even show me some pictures????
*faints*
That's probably because Windows Update only works with Explorer.
I'd take issue with it, but that's probably one of the few examples of OS integration I'd accept.
Unfortunately, workalikes are going to make consistency difficult.
:) Make it an option to gently 'replace' IE and Outlook Express. Replace the shortcuts, import favorites, e-mails, and contacts by default. Import Server Settings, proxies, the whole nine yards.
Actually, Camino is really the only workalike left around. By workalike I mean is built from the same source code base, customized. I guess my terminology isn't very good here.
Standarize icons and names. Make them visually appealing. Make the default styles blend in with the OS/Window Manager.
I have to laugh, one example was of the two Mozilla apps placed prominently on the Start Menu right where IE and Outlook Express are by default. Is this an option in a full installer? If not, put it there.
Then people like myself, who run an ISP can standardize on Mozilla and when I send my installers out I can have them install the app. Even better, have a custom installer file so I can add in OUR servers and make them default in the Mail application.
Now no matter what platform my installers run into, they can install my Mozilla package and have the right settings. Minimalistic training required.
Unless they've changed something, they have a habit of having everything including the kitchen sink included.
I guess that's good. Most everything is behind a version or two by the time it hits your hands though (in the past).
Perhaps I'm simply spoiled by the FreeBSD ports collection (any good package manager really) where I run cvsup to get the ports collection current, then I can either build from source or pkg_add -r pkgname and install the binary quickly across a network.
Don't take this a knock though, SuSE was the *nix that I learned on, and it's still awesome. Just seems somewhat unwieldy to bundle so much software in that is going to go out of date so quickly.
Great for situations without net access though.
I neglected to mention something here that wasn't pointed out to me ahead of time.
Apple has some REALLY good remote admin tools you can use to control just about all of the services on an OSX server, and I'm not talking about Apple Remote Desktop.
Think of all the service controls, IIS type stuff, Active Directory, you name it under windows. Now right a native application that will control those things from a remote system without having to have a terminal on that system. That's what these tools do.
It's really slick. Webmin is there for when you don't have these apps handy. You really have to try them to realize their value.
I decommed several cobalts and replaced them with XServes when i came in. My clients have been nothing but happy with them.
Load webmin for the web interface, use squirrelmail for webmail.
DNS comes preloaded.
Of course, if it hurts your pocketbook, you could always go with a Dual G5 for the same price. That of course means you'd use a wire rack instead of a rackmount telecom rack, but it depends on your space constraints. I have both available to me.
Ermmm...last I checked, I didn't take anything away from anyone else, in fact I was often welcomed to COPY files from other people.
Get it right people, quite spreading lies!
Note: I've not used the SIPPhone, nor do I know much about the protocol.
That being said, back the standard that is open to scrutiny, can be updated and improved, and that others can build on.
P2P sounds nice, but if it's proprietary, one company holds all the cards, and if they fold...
Hey, I made a punny!
How insane is this?????
I mean, really.
"Press and hold the shift key while loading a CD into your CD-ROM drive to bypass autoloading."
I've violated the DMCA?
How many tech support techs world-wide are now guilty exactly?
Sorry. The words "Microsoft", "IE", and "User Experience" in the same sentence as "user will be prompted to load each ActiveX control"....
:)
Brings a tear to me eye.
You mean...something GOOD came out of a lawsuit with Microsoft? W00t!
On the OSS side of things, this should be a (small) boon to projects like Konq and Mozilla that aren't going to require all the online applications and plugins to be re-coded.
I know inherently what I've just said is wrong, but hear me out.
The target market of the above services are more or less ignorant that the product they are consuming has to be paid for by someone. When I turn on the radio do I have to think about paying for it? No. When I turn on the TV? Well, not most of the time, okay there's cable and/or satellite, but I could just use an antenna, and I usually don't think about having to pay for a specific show and with radio I don't have to think about paying for a specific song.
I think this was more true when Napster was out, and maybe it is now, but people generally don't want to have to pay for music. Not because they can't, but because they don't feel they should have to. They view the distribution service as something that is free, just like TV and Radio. Most people don't notice or realize that TV and Radio are paid for by adv. spots. Thus the reason these DVR's are getting into so much hot water.
I tend to fall along those lines as well. Yes, the music needs to be paid for somehow, and iTunes is reasonable in it's methodology, but even iTunes is a step backwards from Napster.
Not saying I have the right answer, but I really feel that's the predicament we're in. Napster more or less got it right the first time, and had they not been shut down they would have a monopoloy on P2P right now, and no one would have given Kazaa a second thought unless Nap started doing something stupid like bundling in Spyware...oh wait, that doesn't stop people.
You lift off the keyboard. Install the card. Replace keyboard.
Done.
Create a directory someplace you don't care about:
/dev/null; done
:)
/dev/null, then do it...
while [ true ]; do wget -r -nd --user-agent=ALLYOURSPAMARESUCKY --delete-after http://www.thebulkclub.com/benefits.asp >
Gotta get this right you know.
You could *probably* just cd to
So, what the wise thing to do is to take the best of all of the above:
/dev/null; done
while [ true ]; do wget -r -nd --user-agent=ALLYOURSPAMARESUCKY http://www.thebulkclub.com/benefits.asp >
Modify /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf
# Osirus has blacklisted the world by mistake.
score RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM 0
score X_OSIRU_OPEN_RELAY 0
Stop and start spamd.
Slashdot is doing webcopynews of versiontracker!! :)
*ducks*
The Netflix app might actually get my fiancee to use my mac a little more often. It's always the little things...
I have a friend that is finishing up his law enforcement degree, and I have family that are police officers.
:P
You know what? They don't want to have to work any harder than they have to, just like the rest of us, and they certainly don't like to 'work in vain'. That is, give a citation, or make an arrest, just to see it not hold up in court because they had some detail out of line.
How would you like spending weeks shoring up and securing a server, only to see a hacker get in because you overlooked a minor, but very obvious detail?
A cop giving you a citation for 1 mile over would be doing more or less that. It's wasting their time and yours. I've been told time and again that 'quotas don't exist', but raises and promotions are based on busts and citations. Sure, there may not be a quota, but you'd best believe there is motivation to place as many arrests and citations as possible, but you also want them to stand up in court if it ever goes there.
Okay, enough rambling.
Yup. I use it all the time. Save up spam and ham in seperate folders. Then do this:
sa-learn --spam --mbox ~/mail/myspamfolder
sa-learn --ham --mbox ~/mail/myhamfolder
As I get more spam, I set it aside into a folder, and in tcsh I have this alias set:
alias spamadd 'sa-learn --spam --mbox ~/mail/got-through && rm ~/mail/got-through && touch ~/mail/got-through'
LMAO! So in other words, not very invasive at all. Besides, last time I looked checking books out of the library and renting videos was legal. Maybe because both are paid for! (Libraries operate on taxes in case you didn't know. That's what makes it a Public Library.)
You're overlooking the point here. The point is not getting at the books or videos. It's someone being able to track what you're doing. You checked out 'book x', you rented 'video y'. You ate rocky road, looked autopr0n, and passed out on the floor at 3am.
Hmm, what was I saying? I knew I had a poi....oooh, a shiny!
You talk like there's a *wrong* time to grind your axe when I comes to M$. :P
:(
I have to agree with the parent though. They are moving toward higher media integration, which is copying Apple to the hilt. Interoperability and security have ALWAYS been low on their hit list. They don't care if what they make works with anyone else, because they have so much market saturation that they can more or less say "screw the rest of you".
*sigh* I always have to explain to people that 90% of the OS's out there are great, standards driven, and work well together...there's all sorts of free software out there, that you can even modify the source code to make work the way you want.
The problem is, Close to 90% or more of computers are running Windows instead. I still have some people I encounter that have never heard of the concept of a computer without windows, and get downright defensive of the concept of a computer WITHOUT windows.
I know we've been saying this for years now, but um...
They're not ripping off of Apple at all!
I mean really. The prototype machines look much like an iMac with it's screen pushed down to the desk, and that wallpaper doesn't look ANYTHING like Apple's default.
Okay, so there are only so many form factors to make an LCD/Keyboard desktop-type computer, fine. But the rest is just more innovation taken from Apple. Apologies if any OSS predates anything I've mentioned about Apple in this case.
Iknow we've been saying this for years now, but um...
I mean really. The prototype machines look much like an iMac with it's screen pushed down to the desk, and that wallpaper doesn't look ANYTHING like Apple's default.
Okay, so there are only so many form factors to make an LCD/Keyboard desktop-type computer, fine. But the rest is just more innovation taken from Apple. Apologies if any OSS predates anything I've mentioned about Apple in this case.
Me want blue pill!
d /revolutions_640_dl.mov
;)
Sorry. Been hanging around my nephew waaay too much.
btw people, drop to terminal and....
wget http://progressive.warnerbros.com/thematrix/us/me
Have a nice evening.
Heh heh heh...