All the government is going to do by creating a law that makes it more difficult to legally share information is make more people into criminals who weren't before. emphasis mine
I've got an idea... lets make everything legal and then there wouldn't be any criminals!
Sharing bandwidth is generally illegal in the contracts and that is why the cable companies are cracking down. But, even if it is legal (or not contractually defined) it is still immoral (illegal and immoral are very different things).
I agree with you that we shouldn't support companies with flawed business models (record companies), but we shouldn't exploit loop-holes in their contracts with us either. Again, that is a moral issue not a legal one.
Companies especially, but people more and more are starting to cheat each other at any possibility. Individuals and companies believe that if it isn't in the contract then it is okay to do something that is detrimental to the other party. Greed and selfishness (even disguised as generosity - example - sharing internet with neighbors who could afford it on their own) are running rampant and need to be stopped - each one of us at a time.
I'm not trying to flame, just trying to make people see the other side.
You are the same type of person who thinks it is okay to download all the MP3s you want for free because record companies are evil.
Same here, you can steal all the bandwidth you want because the cable companies are evil.
Obviously companies like Excite@home went under because they weren't making enough money. Maybe you should consider that when you go stealing more bandwidth. Oh yeah... I bet you were bitching when your cable internet went down from that... then bitched again when they raised the price to bring it back.
Think of it this way. Bandwidth is limited and an increase of bandwidth use increased the cable companies cost.
For example, assume you are on a fixed electrical plan (they have them in Omaha, I don't know if they have them elsewhere) and you start giving electricity to your neighbors for free. Would that be wrong? If so, why isn't stealing bandwidth just as bad?
"Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar." - - Julius Caesar
But life recordings, sound tracks and "best of collections" don't make 150 million in a single weekend.
I'm not saying that the music industry is right in their pricing. I think CD are overpriced by about $9 a piece. But, at the same time you can't compare the price of a DVD with the price of a CD because there are movie theaters and video renting to help fund the production of movies.
Something that people have to realize is that movies come out in movie theaters first and make big $$$. Then they come out on DVD and it is just a bonus for the studios.
Music doesn't have that initial money from a movie theater type situation. I think that is why the record companies are more scared and more affected by piracy.
(Although, I feel that CDs are overpriced and DVDs have much more value per $)
I think the flurry of bugs and bug fixes has been due to Microsoft's commitment to security lately. At first I thought it was pure BS but now I am beginning to think that they are going over their code with a fine tooth comb.
I don't personally use Microsoft, but I am glad that they are cleaning up their act. Their flaws are costing everybody money... not just MS users.
The box will let you record/play like a PVR, it'll play DVD's, it'll write DVD's, it'll do movies on demand, it'll do all the MP3 library stuff for music.
That is a really great idea, and I would love to see it, but if I spent $500 on a machine to do all of this (probably more) I would want to make sure that it will still be useful in 10 years. The problem with this is that the technologies that you mentioned (MP3, DVD burner, playing DVDs) might not be around in 10, 5, or even 3 years from now. I just think that technology moves to fast to start dropping huge amounts of money into combined systems. I would rather spend a little at a time then be able to upgrade the parts when the new "hot thing" comes out.
To help illustrate what I mean... imagine this:
You buy the combo unit, in 3 years DVD writers are 10X faster and 60% cheaper (very likely) you want to replace it, but the movie DVD format is going to be replaced a year after that. Plus, you also heard that a new audio compression technology is going to be released just two years after the replacement for DVD is released.
What do you do? Do you wait for all three? Do you start buying components again? That is the dilemma. The technology is just too volatile.
Before I saw the first installment of LoTR, I was in the middle of reading "The Hobbit." After I saw LoTR, I immediately ran out and bought the trilogy and finished it off in a couple of weeks. After reading the books I thought that reading them in advance would ruin the experience of watching the movie (I know... seems backwards).
But, what actually happened was the fact that I knew what was going on in the trailer and seeing my mind's eye's pictures on the screen was powerful. Very moving - I actually care for and know the characters well enough to have an emotional response to what happens to them on the screen.
I think it has something to do with the fact that LoTR has stayed very close to the books. I am more excited than ever to see the next installment. I think I will be more impressed as the series goes on. (if that is possible)
Don't people (generally younger people) like to replace their console much more often then they would replace a tv-recorder? It seems to me like you are getting locked in to two separate pieces of hardware that have very different upgrade/replace cycles.
Also, with dual-use systems you generally save money, but in this case I'm not seeing a huge amount of savings. What are the benefits? Save a little space? What about when you replace your Xbox and have to keep the old one around as your tv-recorder. Maybe I am missing something, but it doesn't seem to make much sense to me.
Yeah, considering they are on the "job" 24 hrs a day. That would be about $9.25 an hour. Then you have to figure the months of rehab that each of these twits will have to go through to be able to do any normal tasks.
This article never really said anything. What worked? What didn't? Was there any data collected or did they do this for fun? Does anybody have a link to a scientific article that actually explains what they found out?
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All the government is going to do by creating a law that makes it more difficult to legally share information is make more people into criminals who weren't before. emphasis mine
I've got an idea... lets make everything legal and then there wouldn't be any criminals!
That wouldn't work because most of the slashdot crowd HATE corporations... and the corps need to be represented too.
This isnt a troll... it isn't flamebait. Just what I believe I am observing.
Sorry about the flame... I was posting in anger.
Sharing bandwidth is generally illegal in the contracts and that is why the cable companies are cracking down. But, even if it is legal (or not contractually defined) it is still immoral (illegal and immoral are very different things).
I agree with you that we shouldn't support companies with flawed business models (record companies), but we shouldn't exploit loop-holes in their contracts with us either. Again, that is a moral issue not a legal one.
Companies especially, but people more and more are starting to cheat each other at any possibility. Individuals and companies believe that if it isn't in the contract then it is okay to do something that is detrimental to the other party. Greed and selfishness (even disguised as generosity - example - sharing internet with neighbors who could afford it on their own) are running rampant and need to be stopped - each one of us at a time.
I'm not trying to flame, just trying to make people see the other side.
You are the same type of person who thinks it is okay to download all the MP3s you want for free because record companies are evil.
Same here, you can steal all the bandwidth you want because the cable companies are evil.
Obviously companies like Excite@home went under because they weren't making enough money. Maybe you should consider that when you go stealing more bandwidth. Oh yeah... I bet you were bitching when your cable internet went down from that... then bitched again when they raised the price to bring it back.
Think of it this way. Bandwidth is limited and an increase of bandwidth use increased the cable companies cost.
For example, assume you are on a fixed electrical plan (they have them in Omaha, I don't know if they have them elsewhere) and you start giving electricity to your neighbors for free. Would that be wrong? If so, why isn't stealing bandwidth just as bad?
no because the record companies don't see that much money from concert tours
They have the Harry S. Truman bridge... okay... I just made that up... but I am assuming that there is a bridge.
"Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar."
- - Julius Caesar
**found from a link at Linuxiso.org**
No... brazil is NOT overseas... because you need not go o-v-e-r-s-e-a-s to get there. You can drive if you want.
... um... erie?
Canada on the other hand is across the great sea of
But life recordings, sound tracks and "best of collections" don't make 150 million in a single weekend.
I'm not saying that the music industry is right in their pricing. I think CD are overpriced by about $9 a piece. But, at the same time you can't compare the price of a DVD with the price of a CD because there are movie theaters and video renting to help fund the production of movies.
Something that people have to realize is that movies come out in movie theaters first and make big $$$. Then they come out on DVD and it is just a bonus for the studios.
Music doesn't have that initial money from a movie theater type situation. I think that is why the record companies are more scared and more affected by piracy.
(Although, I feel that CDs are overpriced and DVDs have much more value per $)
And Treebeard Entwise was the leader of them... more or less. It has been a few years since I read the books.
Because in the Two Towers there is a creature called Entwise... I think...
I think the flurry of bugs and bug fixes has been due to Microsoft's commitment to security lately. At first I thought it was pure BS but now I am beginning to think that they are going over their code with a fine tooth comb.
I don't personally use Microsoft, but I am glad that they are cleaning up their act. Their flaws are costing everybody money... not just MS users.
I think they are just doing this because they want to make it seem like a phone for $300 is a good deal. That is all... it is a marketing gimmic...
How is this a troll?? What he says is totally legitamate. There are always double standars when it comes to corporations.
yes, she said that.
The box will let you record/play like a PVR, it'll play DVD's, it'll write DVD's, it'll do movies on demand, it'll do all the MP3 library stuff for music.
That is a really great idea, and I would love to see it, but if I spent $500 on a machine to do all of this (probably more) I would want to make sure that it will still be useful in 10 years. The problem with this is that the technologies that you mentioned (MP3, DVD burner, playing DVDs) might not be around in 10, 5, or even 3 years from now. I just think that technology moves to fast to start dropping huge amounts of money into combined systems. I would rather spend a little at a time then be able to upgrade the parts when the new "hot thing" comes out.
To help illustrate what I mean... imagine this:
You buy the combo unit, in 3 years DVD writers are 10X faster and 60% cheaper (very likely) you want to replace it, but the movie DVD format is going to be replaced a year after that. Plus, you also heard that a new audio compression technology is going to be released just two years after the replacement for DVD is released.
What do you do? Do you wait for all three? Do you start buying components again? That is the dilemma. The technology is just too volatile.
Before I saw the first installment of LoTR, I was in the middle of reading "The Hobbit." After I saw LoTR, I immediately ran out and bought the trilogy and finished it off in a couple of weeks. After reading the books I thought that reading them in advance would ruin the experience of watching the movie (I know... seems backwards).
But, what actually happened was the fact that I knew what was going on in the trailer and seeing my mind's eye's pictures on the screen was powerful. Very moving - I actually care for and know the characters well enough to have an emotional response to what happens to them on the screen.
I think it has something to do with the fact that LoTR has stayed very close to the books. I am more excited than ever to see the next installment. I think I will be more impressed as the series goes on. (if that is possible)
That took about a minute and a half.
mod parent up... that is some funny sh!t.
Don't people (generally younger people) like to replace their console much more often then they would replace a tv-recorder? It seems to me like you are getting locked in to two separate pieces of hardware that have very different upgrade/replace cycles.
Also, with dual-use systems you generally save money, but in this case I'm not seeing a huge amount of savings. What are the benefits? Save a little space? What about when you replace your Xbox and have to keep the old one around as your tv-recorder. Maybe I am missing something, but it doesn't seem to make much sense to me.
Yeah, considering they are on the "job" 24 hrs a day. That would be about $9.25 an hour. Then you have to figure the months of rehab that each of these twits will have to go through to be able to do any normal tasks.
Oh yeah, don't forget taxes.
This article never really said anything. What worked? What didn't? Was there any data collected or did they do this for fun? Does anybody have a link to a scientific article that actually explains what they found out?
I was affraid all of the rats in need of transplants would die...