Do you have to pay each (McD, gas station, etc.) a separate fee? Here, SBC is going for the 'price at the edges of the network' model and I don't think it'll work. Who's going to pay this much to be able to use something in a *restricted* environment? This will work if access is everywhere and for a flat fee.
There must be a zillion articles & posts by now explaining that mp3s and p2p and CD burners and "the internet" aren't bad for music sales. Can we go back to "News... Stuff that matters"?
I don't know about Britain but France has a government agency that enforces strict laws when it comes to their citizens' right to electronic privacy, anonymity, removal from databases, etc. Interesting to note that the main law (1978) was passed under Giscard D'Estaing - a moderate republican, by U.S. standards.
there are RedHat RPMs, I think there's a package for Debian, there's a std binary distro and a FreeBSD port. It's not *that* hard to pull down an RPM or a tarball.
The license issue has been beaten to death. Java runs on a shitload of platforms, a lot of them *nixes, that's the bottom line. Being 'part of' a distro is a relative term.
Lack of RAD tools that can compete with Microsoft's, simpler APIs, etc. Someone posted a good summary on TheServerSide.com today. Quote: If you think that the best technology (java) is going to win the SUN vs. MS war, then you would be wrong. If you think that MS isn?t making headway into the java/web application world, again you would be wrong. This ?bury our heads in the sand? philosophy from SUN and many in the java community is just sad. It makes me sick to think that Java will only survive if SUN lets go and IBM takes over, but that?s the reality of the situation.
SUN cannot build a development environment worth paying for. Examples? SWING is overly complicated. EJBs are insanely bloated and not transparent. JSP and taglibs are a joke, take too long to compile, and are prone to serious coding error. Forte for Java was terrible. JDK 1.5 is lame-o in that it supports autoboxing and generics which is mildly useful, but doesn?t support class/method metadata which is freak?in awesome in.NET.
As for the VB cartoon? I work as a java developer in a company that is 99% MS VB.NET. They run massive dynamic data warehouses for various clients all using VB.NET, and I have to bow to the fact that MS has built a vastly superior development environment than anything available on the Java side.
That's the kind of stuff I'm referring to. You don't need to open-source Java to rewrite the EJB or JDO stacks or make NetBeans a decent tool. This is all happening above the JVM. Open-sourcing it won't do shit to fix these issues.
some amazing solutions would show up for Java that will probably never appear with it being closed source. like what?
...it's on the standard distribution of just about any UNIX-like OS out there so is Java
You could buy a program and run it on OS X, Linux, Windows, or whatever. you can do just that with any Java app today
I code in Java for a living. I don't think open-sourcing it or not has anything to do with Java's current problems in the marketplace. Just my 2 cents.
(computer voice)It looks like you're trying to open a web page. Would you like me to tell iexplore.exe to open 'h t t p : / / s l a sh dot . o r g/' ?(/computer voice)
Microsoft has been in a similar situation: they make a ton of money from investment income, not necessarily from sales. I don't hear Money complaining...
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Do you have to pay each (McD, gas station, etc.) a separate fee?
Here, SBC is going for the 'price at the edges of the network' model and I don't think it'll work. Who's going to pay this much to be able to use something in a *restricted* environment?
This will work if access is everywhere and for a flat fee.
There must be a zillion articles & posts by now explaining that mp3s and p2p and CD burners and "the internet" aren't bad for music sales. Can we go back to "News... Stuff that matters"?
I'm working my way down the list of all the BBC shows. You're absolutely right. I could almost unplug the antenna at this point.
or a flurry of pr0n popups open... it's going to be tough indeed.
I don't know about Britain but France has a government agency that enforces strict laws when it comes to their citizens' right to electronic privacy, anonymity, removal from databases, etc.
Interesting to note that the main law (1978) was passed under Giscard D'Estaing - a moderate republican, by U.S. standards.
can someone post some info on how to detect the app? (my empl is blocking access to the site).
there are RedHat RPMs, I think there's a package for Debian, there's a std binary distro and a FreeBSD port. It's not *that* hard to pull down an RPM or a tarball.
The license issue has been beaten to death. Java runs on a shitload of platforms, a lot of them *nixes, that's the bottom line. Being 'part of' a distro is a relative term.
Lack of RAD tools that can compete with Microsoft's, simpler APIs, etc. Someone posted a good summary on TheServerSide.com today. Quote: .NET.
As for the VB cartoon? I work as a java developer in a company that is 99% MS VB.NET. They run massive dynamic data warehouses for various clients all using VB.NET, and I have to bow to the fact that MS has built a vastly superior development environment than anything available on the Java side.
If you think that the best technology (java) is going to win the SUN vs. MS war, then you would be wrong. If you think that MS isn?t making headway into the java/web application world, again you would be wrong. This ?bury our heads in the sand? philosophy from SUN and many in the java community is just sad. It makes me sick to think that Java will only survive if SUN lets go and IBM takes over, but that?s the reality of the situation. SUN cannot build a development environment worth paying for. Examples? SWING is overly complicated. EJBs are insanely bloated and not transparent. JSP and taglibs are a joke, take too long to compile, and are prone to serious coding error. Forte for Java was terrible. JDK 1.5 is lame-o in that it supports autoboxing and generics which is mildly useful, but doesn?t support class/method metadata which is freak?in awesome in
That's the kind of stuff I'm referring to. You don't need to open-source Java to rewrite the EJB or JDO stacks or make NetBeans a decent tool. This is all happening above the JVM. Open-sourcing it won't do shit to fix these issues.
some amazing solutions would show up for Java that will probably never appear with it being closed source.
like what?
so is Java
You could buy a program and run it on OS X, Linux, Windows, or whatever.
you can do just that with any Java app today
I code in Java for a living. I don't think open-sourcing it or not has anything to do with Java's current problems in the marketplace. Just my 2 cents.
bookmarked. thanks!
that let people swap these. Your idea is brilliant.
Turn off Kazaa, turn on SSH and call your friends.
My guess is that all they need to do is initiate a download off of your IP.
(computer voice)It looks like you're trying to open a web page.
Would you like me to tell iexplore.exe to open 'h t t p : / / s l a sh dot . o r g/' ?(/computer voice)
Hardly so. It'll take Microsoft:
- 3 weeks to announce a similar product
- 3 months to release it
- 6 months to bundle it with Windows
( 10 years to work out the bugs and vulnerabilities, I know... )
Suddenly the phrase "My PC is smoking" takes on a whole new meaning...
We could start calling it the FFCC.
has a great selection of FREE music (live and studio). Look under Archive.org -> Audio -> Net Labels.
Microsoft has been in a similar situation: they make a ton of money from investment income, not necessarily from sales. I don't hear Money complaining...
where the WebTV and tablet PC are collecting dust. Move on.
it won't run Office but it'll be a great place for viruses to hide and infect other machines you connect to it.
Bill Gates does. When he finds some loose change in his sofa.
...is is a free upgrade?
it's got more features than Windows.
that's wild! thanks for pointing it out...