the Close this window part of the ad.
It's fine that they can make these annoyances so much more visible, but why don't I ever see ads for things I like or want to see?
I go to a video game magazine online, and I see an ad for a game. I am interested in that.
When I go to either a board on ezboard, a small news site, or some other random site, why do they all have ads for that X-10 camera?!
I am not interested in it, and I don't believe that any of those sites are really bringing in the "target demographic."
Asking for a mirror to an article not only mods you offtopic for some reason, but gets you flames from people who think you can just willy nilly register for all sorts of sites.
I was just saying that it would make people less scared about moving to Linux.
I posted in response to someone below saying that it will take more to actually get people to move, but this is good for preparing anyone for a move from a life of Windows to Linux.
but they should have no problem if they find themselves in a Linux environment as opposed to Windows.
I still think it will take more for them to be attracted to any GNU/Linux implementation.
I thought this was an odd idea.
Why would anyone want to port an OS to another OS (don't start with "Windows is not an OS, please!")?
Then I saw what this all meant.
If people can get used to using Debian tools and programs on Windows, then they won't be nearly as nervous about using them in a GNU/Linux environment.
Bravo! I can't wait to see how that turns out.
Is it really that bad? Would I not have much control over where programs get installed to?
I would think that even without a package handler to do it for me, the program itself would allow me to say where it should be installed...or is that just the Windows user in me talking?
I did indeed buy Corel Linux. So in the first place, you assumed, but ignoring that part, do you think that my sole purpose is to support them just because they are open source?
And no,I would not have paid for a personal versioon of Corel Linux.
Economies of scale are nice and all, but with open source, I was suggesting that perhaps it does not work so nicely.
If anyone can copy and run the program, then obviously you aren't going to sell as many copies as you could potentially if you didn't offer free (as in beer) copies.
So no, I was not saying that I would pay for a personal version of Corel's software. I was saying that perhaps open source is not a perfect model for every type of software. Economies of scale are great, in terms of making something once and then cheaply distributing it, but then again, if I am not making any money off of any distribution, then what good does it do me if my sole purpose is to make money? People can easily get free support, as I did, especially if it is for something that is very popular.
So yeah, it is too bad that open source companies are so affected by the fact that people like me won't pay more than they have to. Service and support revenues are more likely to come from services and support that only you can provide.
To me, it makes sense to be able to customize software for individual businesses and other clientsand charge them for service, since they would most likely come to you.
If everyone else can do so, and for free, you are charging too much.
That is what I was saying.
At least this way my friends can stop bugging me about how much better DirectX 8.0 is compared to OpenGL.
I think it will be a fun upcoming year for graphics programming B-)
My first experience with this model was when I was trying to get Corel Linux installed on my system.
I was not about to pay over the phone for support, and I found a few websites that did offer free messageboards.
If you think you're going to base your business off of service revenue, then you shouldn't make something and expect to sell/distribute exact copies of it.
I can see someone personalizing on a case by case business, and it would make sense to charge for the support then. People would basically have to come to you, or to someone else that can code at least.
It is too bad that so many companies are affected by this so much that they are going closed source and/or out of business.
How come we didn't know there was a water main running underneath that stadium?
Well back in 2001, the government ruined all records and we had no idea where anything was, so we just built over it and hoped for the best.
This is also why schools are not allowed to operate anymore. If we give people knowledge, they will only use it for evil purposes.
So, wanna talk about the new advances in pen and paper technology? Sorry, stick and dirt technology. It is safer.
Too bad I don't have a few hundred to spend on a new computer to crack open and look at. Oh wait...I can easily make my own video game console system, can't I?
I wish there was more to this article, because then there might be more to my response to it.
Slashdot is good because it is a community based news service. However the previous post was a complaint about manipulation of the media to get something across unfairly, particularly by Slashdot posters.
The truth sets you free more easily if it isn't hiding behind propoganda-like manipulations of it. It is good that the Register actually put the memo up so you can read it outside of the anti-MS stuff and come up with your own opinion of it, even if it comes out anti-MS or not.
Of course, how the article was presented, especially by the title and such, made it seem a lot worse than it was.
And then Slashdot posts it so the effect was that much greater.
Is it ok to "reveal the truth" and complain about how unfair Microsoft's marketing plans and actions are, but not to complain about how Slashdot postings and The Register's revelations are kind of sensationalized to make it seem a lot worse than it is?
Talk about FUD. Apparantly it is ok to be open minded about using non-MS and non-proprietary products, but not ok to be open minded enough to be ok with choosing to use MS and proprietary products.
And again, that is not what the original post was about. It was about being able to get "news" without the sensationalized and blown out of proportion crap that comes with it. Yes we know Slashdot is generally anti-MS. Does news of MS have to come coated with barbed wire, or can we assume that if MS is as bad as people say that it's actions will show it by themselves?
Very passionate about what he does.
If everyone was like that for their respective jobs, how much of an increase in productivity would we see?
So even without knowing much about what he could do for GNOME, I don't know who else could be better for the job.
What would I use it for?
I suppose if anything it would be cool to see how paper airplanes and mini-kites work before building larger versions of them, and I could model my own planes, I could see how those work too.
Sounds like a fun project, if I had the time and resources.
While Konqueror is ok, I had a bad experience with it my first time.
Turns out I just didn't have my fonts setup in Mandrake or something silly like that.
Now, I personally like Internet Explorer, and if they could make a browser that more closely resembles the feel of it (pressing enter when filling a form, CTRL+Enter to put www. and.com around what I typed in the address section, etc) I would be all set.
Can't wait to reinstall and try Mandrake and Konqueror again though.
Perhaps if a general software award coming from PC Magazine or something like that, without some kind of supplemental title, like Best Open-Source Program instead of Best Program, then perhaps it will get some notice outside of Slashdottish communities.
Still, it is cool that they have these awards. It gives respect to those within the community who make great software.
Hehe, well the K doesn't stand for anything
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It is the letter that comes before L, which stands for Linux.
True, it can be annoying, just like the Republican ads that featured Al Gore saying that he invented the Internet, and then going, "No you didn't!!"
What is funny is that it is always portions of the speech and not the context it was part of that matters. Sorta like how my posts get terrible responses to single sentences taken out of context, instead of to the topic I was actually talking about.
further, so I won't go through each point.
Basically it breaks down into the old MS and the current MS.
As for Intuit, they can't stab them in the back if they didn't make deals. In fact, Intuit actually had coupons for Quicken for those that bought Windows, so they actually took away MS's muster there.
As for the old DOS problems, I will have to look up this Stacker and such.
Currently, Microsoft is behind in terms of server software. Apple introduces their own software for stuff that others usually is supported by third party developers, such as DVD and CD-R, but Microsoft can't because it has a monopoly.
MSN was not exactly an agressive push when it first came out.
Of course, there is documentation that they tried to leverage their OS to do more. In itself, it wouldn't have been wrong, but the rules change just because they have a monopoly. Things are a little different now though. No one is forcing me to use Windows or Microsoft products, and in fact, I run Mandrake as well. I do wonder though how many Mac users have MSN...
You know what this seems to boil down to? Who is complaining about it, and who is actually buying into MS's software?
Obviously a lot of people on/. don't seem to like anything that comes out of MS, but what is up with all the people who go out and insist on getting computers with the latest MS OS? Understandably they don't know better, but someone in a position of authority must, so if it is so clear cut and dry, why doesn't someone do something about it?
Who did they knife in the back?
Intuit did a good job of giving Microsoft the shaft when they locked MS out from online bill paying so that Money would still have trouble competing with Quicken.
I believe Broderbund had a contract with MS where MS couldn't hire anyone away. The CEO of Broderbund got pissed off when MS did hire someone, and called up Bill Gates, only to be told that, yeah, they were hired away, but the contract that prevented that expired already. Way to keep on the ball, Broderbund (or whichever company it was...I can't recall right now).
Microsoft might be legally an illegal monopoly, but if hard proof of "knifing in the back" can be provided, I would like to see it.
Perhaps if other companies would hire intelligent people and work as aggressively, we might see some actual innovations from them as well as MS.
Too many companies are being big babies and crying about it instead of actually doing something. What was the last big innovation we saw from a major company outside of the open source community? AOL hasn't really done anything, and I am at a loss to really point out anything Sun or any other company has done that affects me now.
Slashdot Mirror
the Close this window part of the ad.
It's fine that they can make these annoyances so much more visible, but why don't I ever see ads for things I like or want to see?
I go to a video game magazine online, and I see an ad for a game. I am interested in that.
When I go to either a board on ezboard, a small news site, or some other random site, why do they all have ads for that X-10 camera?!
I am not interested in it, and I don't believe that any of those sites are really bringing in the "target demographic."
Asking for a mirror to an article not only mods you offtopic for some reason, but gets you flames from people who think you can just willy nilly register for all sorts of sites.
I don't exactly have the login to get in.
In fact, I just don't have it at all.
I was just saying that it would make people less scared about moving to Linux.
I posted in response to someone below saying that it will take more to actually get people to move, but this is good for preparing anyone for a move from a life of Windows to Linux.
but they should have no problem if they find themselves in a Linux environment as opposed to Windows.
I still think it will take more for them to be attracted to any GNU/Linux implementation.
I thought this was an odd idea.
Why would anyone want to port an OS to another OS (don't start with "Windows is not an OS, please!")?
Then I saw what this all meant.
If people can get used to using Debian tools and programs on Windows, then they won't be nearly as nervous about using them in a GNU/Linux environment.
Bravo! I can't wait to see how that turns out.
Is it really that bad? Would I not have much control over where programs get installed to?
I would think that even without a package handler to do it for me, the program itself would allow me to say where it should be installed...or is that just the Windows user in me talking?
I did indeed buy Corel Linux. So in the first place, you assumed, but ignoring that part, do you think that my sole purpose is to support them just because they are open source?
And no,I would not have paid for a personal versioon of Corel Linux.
Economies of scale are nice and all, but with open source, I was suggesting that perhaps it does not work so nicely.
If anyone can copy and run the program, then obviously you aren't going to sell as many copies as you could potentially if you didn't offer free (as in beer) copies.
So no, I was not saying that I would pay for a personal version of Corel's software. I was saying that perhaps open source is not a perfect model for every type of software. Economies of scale are great, in terms of making something once and then cheaply distributing it, but then again, if I am not making any money off of any distribution, then what good does it do me if my sole purpose is to make money? People can easily get free support, as I did, especially if it is for something that is very popular.
So yeah, it is too bad that open source companies are so affected by the fact that people like me won't pay more than they have to. Service and support revenues are more likely to come from services and support that only you can provide.
To me, it makes sense to be able to customize software for individual businesses and other clientsand charge them for service, since they would most likely come to you.
If everyone else can do so, and for free, you are charging too much.
That is what I was saying.
At least this way my friends can stop bugging me about how much better DirectX 8.0 is compared to OpenGL.
I think it will be a fun upcoming year for graphics programming B-)
My first experience with this model was when I was trying to get Corel Linux installed on my system.
I was not about to pay over the phone for support, and I found a few websites that did offer free messageboards.
If you think you're going to base your business off of service revenue, then you shouldn't make something and expect to sell/distribute exact copies of it.
I can see someone personalizing on a case by case business, and it would make sense to charge for the support then. People would basically have to come to you, or to someone else that can code at least.
It is too bad that so many companies are affected by this so much that they are going closed source and/or out of business.
Ouch! AhhH!!!
Microsoft Software is on my computer! Ouch! It stings!
(point iii in action)
How come we didn't know there was a water main running underneath that stadium?
Well back in 2001, the government ruined all records and we had no idea where anything was, so we just built over it and hoped for the best.
This is also why schools are not allowed to operate anymore. If we give people knowledge, they will only use it for evil purposes.
So, wanna talk about the new advances in pen and paper technology? Sorry, stick and dirt technology. It is safer.
Too bad I don't have a few hundred to spend on a new computer to crack open and look at. Oh wait...I can easily make my own video game console system, can't I?
I wish there was more to this article, because then there might be more to my response to it.
we could at least Slashdot it! B-)
Slashdot is good because it is a community based news service. However the previous post was a complaint about manipulation of the media to get something across unfairly, particularly by Slashdot posters.
The truth sets you free more easily if it isn't hiding behind propoganda-like manipulations of it. It is good that the Register actually put the memo up so you can read it outside of the anti-MS stuff and come up with your own opinion of it, even if it comes out anti-MS or not.
Of course, how the article was presented, especially by the title and such, made it seem a lot worse than it was.
And then Slashdot posts it so the effect was that much greater.
Is it ok to "reveal the truth" and complain about how unfair Microsoft's marketing plans and actions are, but not to complain about how Slashdot postings and The Register's revelations are kind of sensationalized to make it seem a lot worse than it is?
Talk about FUD. Apparantly it is ok to be open minded about using non-MS and non-proprietary products, but not ok to be open minded enough to be ok with choosing to use MS and proprietary products.
And again, that is not what the original post was about. It was about being able to get "news" without the sensationalized and blown out of proportion crap that comes with it. Yes we know Slashdot is generally anti-MS. Does news of MS have to come coated with barbed wire, or can we assume that if MS is as bad as people say that it's actions will show it by themselves?
Very passionate about what he does.
If everyone was like that for their respective jobs, how much of an increase in productivity would we see?
So even without knowing much about what he could do for GNOME, I don't know who else could be better for the job.
What would I use it for?
I suppose if anything it would be cool to see how paper airplanes and mini-kites work before building larger versions of them, and I could model my own planes, I could see how those work too.
Sounds like a fun project, if I had the time and resources.
I like how anyone can just send transmissions to it. /. it!
Let's see if we can
While Konqueror is ok, I had a bad experience with it my first time. .com around what I typed in the address section, etc) I would be all set.
Turns out I just didn't have my fonts setup in Mandrake or something silly like that.
Now, I personally like Internet Explorer, and if they could make a browser that more closely resembles the feel of it (pressing enter when filling a form, CTRL+Enter to put www. and
Can't wait to reinstall and try Mandrake and Konqueror again though.
Perhaps if a general software award coming from PC Magazine or something like that, without some kind of supplemental title, like Best Open-Source Program instead of Best Program, then perhaps it will get some notice outside of Slashdottish communities.
Still, it is cool that they have these awards. It gives respect to those within the community who make great software.
It is the letter that comes before L, which stands for Linux.
True, it can be annoying, just like the Republican ads that featured Al Gore saying that he invented the Internet, and then going, "No you didn't!!"
What is funny is that it is always portions of the speech and not the context it was part of that matters. Sorta like how my posts get terrible responses to single sentences taken out of context, instead of to the topic I was actually talking about.
If you watch the video, the words at the bottom say:
"And I feel like beer in very good touch."
Now, is that free beer?
further, so I won't go through each point. /. don't seem to like anything that comes out of MS, but what is up with all the people who go out and insist on getting computers with the latest MS OS? Understandably they don't know better, but someone in a position of authority must, so if it is so clear cut and dry, why doesn't someone do something about it?
Basically it breaks down into the old MS and the current MS.
As for Intuit, they can't stab them in the back if they didn't make deals. In fact, Intuit actually had coupons for Quicken for those that bought Windows, so they actually took away MS's muster there.
As for the old DOS problems, I will have to look up this Stacker and such.
Currently, Microsoft is behind in terms of server software. Apple introduces their own software for stuff that others usually is supported by third party developers, such as DVD and CD-R, but Microsoft can't because it has a monopoly.
MSN was not exactly an agressive push when it first came out.
Of course, there is documentation that they tried to leverage their OS to do more. In itself, it wouldn't have been wrong, but the rules change just because they have a monopoly. Things are a little different now though. No one is forcing me to use Windows or Microsoft products, and in fact, I run Mandrake as well. I do wonder though how many Mac users have MSN...
You know what this seems to boil down to? Who is complaining about it, and who is actually buying into MS's software?
Obviously a lot of people on
Who did they knife in the back?
Intuit did a good job of giving Microsoft the shaft when they locked MS out from online bill paying so that Money would still have trouble competing with Quicken.
I believe Broderbund had a contract with MS where MS couldn't hire anyone away. The CEO of Broderbund got pissed off when MS did hire someone, and called up Bill Gates, only to be told that, yeah, they were hired away, but the contract that prevented that expired already. Way to keep on the ball, Broderbund (or whichever company it was...I can't recall right now).
Microsoft might be legally an illegal monopoly, but if hard proof of "knifing in the back" can be provided, I would like to see it.
Perhaps if other companies would hire intelligent people and work as aggressively, we might see some actual innovations from them as well as MS.
Too many companies are being big babies and crying about it instead of actually doing something. What was the last big innovation we saw from a major company outside of the open source community? AOL hasn't really done anything, and I am at a loss to really point out anything Sun or any other company has done that affects me now.