You lose time. And if you choose to use the Spirit Healer at each graveyar to ressurect instantly you lose 25% item durability. that's a LOT of money to get fixed.
What's more once out of combat monsters regenerate health lightning fast, so you cant fight a war of attrition with one and come out on top.
Personally I like this method because I still have to play carefully (it's a fucking hassle to walk back, and in lots of cases when you ressurect you will be immediately set upon by more monsters) but it's not game breaking if you DO die (like getting PK'd in the middle of nowhere playing Ultima online, and losing weeks of work in terms of equipment and items)
If each quest in a game had an actual in game impact, they couldn't be duplicated. Therefore they would run out VERY quickly, as each player couldn't do the same quest. What you say is a good idea, but i don't see any way to put it into practice.
As far as a sense of ownership, I find it quite cool that crafted items have your name on them, basically telling the world who made that particular item; double cool if you're a high level crafter and making high powered stuff. There have also been rumors of guildhouses and similar things planned for the future.
And, respectfully, i disagree about grinding. We appear to have different definitions of it--I call grinding killing monsters in the same place for hours on end. The WoW questing keeps you moving around and doing different things (not extremely different, but different) which, IMHO makes it infinitely more entertaining than nuking hordes of Liriens in LIneage II for HOURS all for nearly zero payoff.
Horde vs. alliance combat seems to be an important and entertaining part of the late game in WOW. Even on Player vs. Monster servers you can venture into "enemy" or "contested" turf and slaughter helpless orcs or humans. Or try to.
There also exist PVP servers where you can basically kill anyone at any time (by contrast PVM servers if you are in enemy lands you have to initiate hostilities before you can be attacked in return)
I made another comment regarding Linage---I ran out of steam in that game by level 21, and it took FOREVER to get there.
WoW's progression is alot faster in the low end, and at the high end the game gets to where if you want, you can get into alot of areas taht basicalyl require groups and teamwork to defeat some pretty bad ass things.
WoW is also constrcted to AVOID the endless grind that L2 put you through. The only reason to grind in WOW is if you're after a specific drop or craft item,and even then your odds are good of finding what you need in the course of doing quests. Quest rewards >> grinding rewards in terms of XP and cash and loot. The most you'll ever have to grind is in a "kill XX of this type of thing and bring me their heads" kind of quest.
I played this game for nearly a week straight when it came out. i STARTED to get bored cause i thought i'd hit a wall, then went to another area and found a zillion more fresh quests and alot more interesting story to get into.
I haventy played SWG but my brother has, and he calls WOW infinitely better especially in the crafting area
I've had several classes and labs with TAs and profs who learned english as a second language. This semester was the FIRST time id ever had trouble with an accent, a chinese Data Structures professor who has a pretty stereotypical engrish accent that gets worse when he gets into a lecture because he starts blurring words together. His class is half populated ona good day, students find it easier to just print out the powerpoints he uses and read those later.
At one point he did tell us that when he learned english it was from a chinese who did't really KNOW how it was supposed to sound, just said thinsg the way they thought it should sound (!!!) --that still doesn't excuse the fact taht you really dont have any busienss teaching if you can't communiate clearly.
And to head off anyone complaining about me being racist, the younger TAs ive had for classes all speak perfect english or nearly so. This is a phenomenon with older professors who either didn't learn english properly or dont care to make the effort to speak it clearly.
I'm not sure how many people here currently play Lineage II or USED to play it, but that was the last MMO I got into and I regret ever paying a dime for it. LII was ALL about GRIND. Kill enemy. Kill enemy. Kill enemy. Pick up gold. Kill enemy. Ad freakin nauseum.
WoW manages to break up this monotony admirably in several ways
first: Quests. Questing is the way ot level up, not killing things endlessly. The quests take you all arond the world and give you some interesting insight into what's going on in th game world at the time.
second: Loot. I expect to be jumped on by a horde of RP'ers admonishing me for liking my treasure but---well, it's exciting knowing that the creatures you're killing may possibly drop something you can use or sell for big bucks. In Lineage getting a useful drop was an extreme rarity--hell getting anything besides a handful of gold was an oddity enough. In short, having critters drop items more often, especially craft items and "trophies" makes the game more interesting.
third: WoW runs beautifully on my machine (oldish, GF3 and an athlon XP) compared to lineage. Granted LII might have had spiffier more realistic graphics but towns turned into slideshows...this is apparent in WoW in bigger towns but not as severe.
By can't teach I hope you include "incapable of clearly speaking english" and other communication difficulties.
Though I'm in engineering, I have to take a few CS classes...I'm sick to death of attending a research based school where such things as your ability to speak english and communicate with students are irrelevant as long as you publish.
Tell that to the airforce and Navy, who's major recruitment campaigns are paying for your education. I have friends who are or were infantry in several branches so I know better, but the recruiters i've spoken with pitch it EXACTLY as a job training program, especailly the airforce with their insane number of desk/tech jobs
Cause you can remix an mp3. You can also share one without getting someone to install an odd bit of software (or in some cases a new player AND a plugin)
It's only normal to have to run ad- and spy-ware scanners constantly if you're a clueless user who has no concept of security and the fact that there are disreputable websites and programs. The users I can get that cross to, EVEN if they continue using IE, drastically reduce or eliminate the amount of spyware they attract. One of my friends, an IT professional, uses IE exclusively, his machine is as clean as mine (using firefox)
If you attempt to intall SP2 on a spyware ridden machine it may well fuck it up totally. If it's reasonably clean you shouldn't needto reinstall first.
If i'm doing a fresh install of XP i install with the network cable unplugged, install a software firewall, then regain network connectivity and immediately download all available patches. That method has worked fine so far
My electrical engineering professor last semester was Choctaw, and in fact retired to go back to the area where he grew up this past semester. He taught the class a few phrases, and supposedly at one point taught part of a lecture in Choctaw just to throw people off.
Geez. Where are you living that a shop can charge that much and still hve business? The local joe blow shop charged 60, and just recently got undercut badly by a friend of mine who charges 40 with a set fee for common thinks like spyware and reformatting. People in my area bitch about THAT being expnesive (Granted the coutny is in bad shape economically but still)
I was undre the impression he meant the class based supplements with weapons and prestige clasess and so on. My group DID get several of those mainnly for the new weapons and prestige classes. We have never, ever used an out of the box adventure module, unless you count one from a Dragon magazine we basically just stole the maps from
Uh? My group played 3e D&D for the better part of a year with a player's handbook, a monster manual and a DM's guide. where exactly are you getting the idea all those little class supplements are required for play?
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If a new disk is skipping it may well be your player not the media.
I was under the impression Ad-aware's scanlist oriented more towards tracking info and the like.
Personally I rarely use ad-aware by itself due to the amount of things it misses --possibly just the unique spyware demographic i've encountered, but I'm not sure I ever recall running ad aware AFTER spybot and finding more than a few cookies.
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You lose time. And if you choose to use the Spirit Healer at each graveyar to ressurect instantly you lose 25% item durability. that's a LOT of money to get fixed.
What's more once out of combat monsters regenerate health lightning fast, so you cant fight a war of attrition with one and come out on top.
Personally I like this method because I still have to play carefully (it's a fucking hassle to walk back, and in lots of cases when you ressurect you will be immediately set upon by more monsters) but it's not game breaking if you DO die (like getting PK'd in the middle of nowhere playing Ultima online, and losing weeks of work in terms of equipment and items)
You may be surprsied. On my server I run into some of the same people over and over
If each quest in a game had an actual in game impact, they couldn't be duplicated. Therefore they would run out VERY quickly, as each player couldn't do the same quest.
What you say is a good idea, but i don't see any way to put it into practice.
As far as a sense of ownership, I find it quite cool that crafted items have your name on them, basically telling the world who made that particular item; double cool if you're a high level crafter and making high powered stuff. There have also been rumors of guildhouses and similar things planned for the future.
And, respectfully, i disagree about grinding. We appear to have different definitions of it--I call grinding killing monsters in the same place for hours on end. The WoW questing keeps you moving around and doing different things (not extremely different, but different) which, IMHO makes it infinitely more entertaining than nuking hordes of Liriens in LIneage II for HOURS all for nearly zero payoff.
Horde vs. alliance combat seems to be an important and entertaining part of the late game in WOW. Even on Player vs. Monster servers you can venture into "enemy" or "contested" turf and slaughter helpless orcs or humans. Or try to.
There also exist PVP servers where you can basically kill anyone at any time (by contrast PVM servers if you are in enemy lands you have to initiate hostilities before you can be attacked in return)
God fucking forbid a game encounter trouble in the first 2 weeks of its launch. Unheard of. Never happened before. Oh wait, it has.
Most of that due to people absolutely not listening to Blizzard's advice to choose low-pop servers.
I made another comment regarding Linage---I ran out of steam in that game by level 21, and it took FOREVER to get there.
,and even then your odds are good of finding what you need in the course of doing quests. Quest rewards >> grinding rewards in terms of XP and cash and loot. The most you'll ever have to grind is in a "kill XX of this type of thing and bring me their heads" kind of quest.
WoW's progression is alot faster in the low end, and at the high end the game gets to where if you want, you can get into alot of areas taht basicalyl require groups and teamwork to defeat some pretty bad ass things.
WoW is also constrcted to AVOID the endless grind that L2 put you through. The only reason to grind in WOW is if you're after a specific drop or craft item
I played this game for nearly a week straight when it came out. i STARTED to get bored cause i thought i'd hit a wall, then went to another area and found a zillion more fresh quests and alot more interesting story to get into.
I haventy played SWG but my brother has, and he calls WOW infinitely better especially in the crafting area
Good point, but i'm only lvl 18 so that's not quite on my mind yet ;p
I've had several classes and labs with TAs and profs who learned english as a second language. This semester was the FIRST time id ever had trouble with an accent, a chinese Data Structures professor who has a pretty stereotypical engrish accent that gets worse when he gets into a lecture because he starts blurring words together. His class is half populated ona good day, students find it easier to just print out the powerpoints he uses and read those later.
At one point he did tell us that when he learned english it was from a chinese who did't really KNOW how it was supposed to sound, just said thinsg the way they thought it should sound (!!!) --that still doesn't excuse the fact taht you really dont have any busienss teaching if you can't communiate clearly.
And to head off anyone complaining about me being racist, the younger TAs ive had for classes all speak perfect english or nearly so. This is a phenomenon with older professors who either didn't learn english properly or dont care to make the effort to speak it clearly.
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I'm not sure how many people here currently play Lineage II or USED to play it, but that was the last MMO I got into and I regret ever paying a dime for it. LII was ALL about GRIND. Kill enemy. Kill enemy. Kill enemy. Pick up gold. Kill enemy. Ad freakin nauseum.
WoW manages to break up this monotony admirably in several ways
first: Quests. Questing is the way ot level up, not killing things endlessly. The quests take you all arond the world and give you some interesting insight into what's going on in th game world at the time.
second: Loot. I expect to be jumped on by a horde of RP'ers admonishing me for liking my treasure but---well, it's exciting knowing that the creatures you're killing may possibly drop something you can use or sell for big bucks. In Lineage getting a useful drop was an extreme rarity--hell getting anything besides a handful of gold was an oddity enough. In short, having critters drop items more often, especially craft items and "trophies" makes the game more interesting.
third: WoW runs beautifully on my machine (oldish, GF3 and an athlon XP) compared to lineage. Granted LII might have had spiffier more realistic graphics but towns turned into slideshows...this is apparent in WoW in bigger towns but not as severe.
You should try WoW.
You move your character with WASD and control the camera and "steer" your character's facing with the mouse.
I agree, it's far better. Took some getting used to compared to lineage II, but i like it much more now.
By can't teach I hope you include "incapable of clearly speaking english" and other communication difficulties.
Though I'm in engineering, I have to take a few CS classes...I'm sick to death of attending a research based school where such things as your ability to speak english and communicate with students are irrelevant as long as you publish.
Tell that to the airforce and Navy, who's major recruitment campaigns are paying for your education. I have friends who are or were infantry in several branches so I know better, but the recruiters i've spoken with pitch it EXACTLY as a job training program, especailly the airforce with their insane number of desk/tech jobs
Cause you can remix an mp3. You can also share one without getting someone to install an odd bit of software (or in some cases a new player AND a plugin)
There are all sorts of valid uses for p2p software too.
Valid doesn't necessarily mean majority.
That's funny, my system doesn't run that way.
It's only normal to have to run ad- and spy-ware scanners constantly if you're a clueless user who has no concept of security and the fact that there are disreputable websites and programs. The users I can get that cross to, EVEN if they continue using IE, drastically reduce or eliminate the amount of spyware they attract. One of my friends, an IT professional, uses IE exclusively, his machine is as clean as mine (using firefox)
If you attempt to intall SP2 on a spyware ridden machine it may well fuck it up totally. If it's reasonably clean you shouldn't needto reinstall first.
If i'm doing a fresh install of XP i install with the network cable unplugged, install a software firewall, then regain network connectivity and immediately download all available patches. That method has worked fine so far
My electrical engineering professor last semester was Choctaw, and in fact retired to go back to the area where he grew up this past semester. He taught the class a few phrases, and supposedly at one point taught part of a lecture in Choctaw just to throw people off.
Geez. Where are you living that a shop can charge that much and still hve business? The local joe blow shop charged 60, and just recently got undercut badly by a friend of mine who charges 40 with a set fee for common thinks like spyware and reformatting. People in my area bitch about THAT being expnesive (Granted the coutny is in bad shape economically but still)
I was undre the impression he meant the class based supplements with weapons and prestige clasess and so on. My group DID get several of those mainnly for the new weapons and prestige classes. We have never, ever used an out of the box adventure module, unless you count one from a Dragon magazine we basically just stole the maps from
Uh? My group played 3e D&D for the better part of a year with a player's handbook, a monster manual and a DM's guide. where exactly are you getting the idea all those little class supplements are required for play?
If a new disk is skipping it may well be your player not the media.
Who's fault is it they didn't read the agreement r look into what "data" was being collegcted?
The user's, ultimately.
You consider running an "uninstall" program hard?
I was under the impression Ad-aware's scanlist oriented more towards tracking info and the like.
Personally I rarely use ad-aware by itself due to the amount of things it misses --possibly just the unique spyware demographic i've encountered, but I'm not sure I ever recall running ad aware AFTER spybot and finding more than a few cookies.