Why hasn't something like this already happened with Mozilla?
Answer: Mozilla's code is higher-quality because of open-source peer-review.
Do you think that the hackers that have been trying to embarass Microsoft into fixing their old vulnerabilities finally said "screw it then, THIS will teach Microsoft" ?
>Take a look at his original distribution of 'Lindows',... It had wine coupled with it so you could install office 2000 if you so desired,... wine is no longer a part of the package.
Really?
That's interesting. I hadn't heard anything about their dropping Wine.
How can you run Windows applications on Lindows now, then?
Hmmm... That does sound like an interesting take, but I'm not sure I really understand what you mean. Could you elaborate a bit?
I *think* you might be right about doing away with VMM, ring levels and all that, and if you do, you've essentially gotten rid of the operating system too, haen't you?
In one sense, that could work; the would be no operating systems, just the task the program was developed for.
When you think about it, operating systems or sort of a non sequitur, it's the tasks that are important...
You know, I wonder about that whole "cycles are cheap, people are expensive"
It seems to be the same excuse hacks have been using to foist substandard programming on us for years now.
Did you ever stop to think about what the world would be like if people actually wrote optimized code all the time?
For one thing, I'm pretty sure computers would be perceived as being a lot faster, and at all levels I mean. All those crappy routines add together and give what you have today...
For example, Sun, who should know how to make 'standard' Java apps if anyone does, used to distribute DIFFERENT packages for their Forte Java development environment.
I hate it when someone makes a valid point and gets modded down because it's controversial.
Come to the realization friends; Java IS slow.
Personally, I LOVE Java as a pedagogical tool to aid in teaching computer science, and I had the same love for Logo, but obviously both of these languages have at least one thing in common; they are hampered by the fact that they are slow.
And since MS has closed-source, I can never be sure, therefore I won't use Microsoft anymore.
They're a breeding-ground of spam and everything that's out of control is their own fault due to their policies.
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"It's also possible the attack against SCO is just a smokescreen to misdirect attention away from the backdoor component in the virus - which is most likely included in order to facilitate sending of spam email messages."
If we look at the statistics over the past year, we can see that in truth, viruses are COMISSIONED by spammers as part of their economic survival.
And the more they can camouflage that fact, the longer they can continue to make money.
This has NOTHING to do with an operating system holy war, but everything to do with dollars and cents.
Organized spammers obviously are funding people to write viruses that will turn unprotected machines into part of their advertising network.
The first few viruses like "I Love You" and "Melissa" were just proofs of concepts.
And of course, the minute a discovery is made, someone greedy tries to turn it into a money-maker for themselves.
Want the spam problem to end? It would if only there were money in it to make it stop.
As it is, the money being spent tips the scales in favor of the spammers and NOTHING that will amount to anything will ever be done about it unless that simple fact changes.
In other words, spammers have more money to make protecting their "investment" than anyone else can collect doing otherwise.
Very simple, really.
Like everything, regretably, this is just an issue of dollars and cents.
Today SCO as a smokescreen, tomorrow Microsoft, the week after anybody else the spammers can use as a cover...
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Really.
She looks sweet.
Organized crime has found other ways to launder its money.
>OR a much lower number of users means it not worth the time.
Good point, but I wonder how long that will remain true; Mozilla is gaining ground on IE every week...
Just the way Microsoft has dragged their feet about putting pop-up blocking in IE has been enough for many to switch.
Something to keep in mind
Why hasn't something like this already happened with Mozilla?
Answer: Mozilla's code is higher-quality because of open-source peer-review.
Do you think that the hackers that have been trying to embarass Microsoft into fixing their old vulnerabilities finally said
"screw it then, THIS will teach Microsoft" ?
That's how you get bluescreens, right?
> You'll find this line of reasoning is used often when business, or indeed any special interest, lobbies with politicians
We'll REALLY know when SCO has hit rock-bottom when they start using
"Think of the CHILDREN!"
"Won't SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!"
Hmmm... Maybe I should have kept that to myself... Hope no one from SCO's legal team is reading this...
>Take a look at his original distribution of 'Lindows', ... It had wine coupled with it so you could install office 2000 if you so desired, ... wine is no longer a part of the package.
Really?
That's interesting. I hadn't heard anything about their dropping Wine.
How can you run Windows applications on Lindows now, then?
What did they do to replace it?
Hmmm...
That does sound like an interesting take, but I'm not sure I really understand what you mean. Could you elaborate a bit?
I *think* you might be right about doing away with VMM, ring levels and all that, and if you do, you've essentially gotten rid of the operating system too, haen't you?
In one sense, that could work; the would be no operating systems, just the task the program was developed for.
When you think about it, operating systems or sort of a non sequitur, it's the tasks that are important...
Heresy, I love it.
>>Did you ever stop to think about what the world would be like if people actually wrote optimized code all the time?
>Yup. There'd be no software.
LOL
That's exactly the attitude I'm talking about!
You know, I wonder about that whole "cycles are cheap, people are expensive"
It seems to be the same excuse hacks have been using to foist substandard programming on us for years now.
Did you ever stop to think about what the world would be like if people actually wrote optimized code all the time?
For one thing, I'm pretty sure computers would be perceived as being a lot faster, and at all levels I mean. All those crappy routines add together and give what you have today...
Maybe I've been around Windows too long...
I'm sure the key parts of your real-time algorithms are not coded in Java.
For instance, the codecs you're using.
Of course, it's much easier to call someone braindead than being right, thanks.
>Java has binary portability
That's only true for trivial applications.
For example, Sun, who should know how to make 'standard' Java apps if anyone does, used to distribute DIFFERENT packages for their Forte Java development environment.
"Oh, but that's different!" I hear you saying.
Exactly; every situation is different.
I hate it when someone makes a valid point and gets modded down because it's controversial.
Come to the realization friends; Java IS slow.
Personally, I LOVE Java as a pedagogical tool to aid in teaching computer science, and I had the same love for Logo, but obviously both of these languages have at least one thing in common; they are hampered by the fact that they are slow.
and install Linux on this baby! Oh yeah!
Even Mac On Linux becomes possible at this point!
www.maconlinux.org
And since MS has closed-source, I can never be sure, therefore I won't use Microsoft anymore.
They're a breeding-ground of spam and everything that's out of control is their own fault due to their policies.
"It's also possible the attack against SCO is just a smokescreen to misdirect attention away from the backdoor component in the virus - which is most likely included in order to facilitate sending of spam email messages."
If we look at the statistics over the past year, we can see that in truth, viruses are COMISSIONED by spammers as part of their economic survival.
And the more they can camouflage that fact, the longer they can continue to make money.
This has NOTHING to do with an operating system holy war, but everything to do with dollars and cents.
Organized spammers obviously are funding people to write viruses that will turn unprotected machines into part of their advertising network.
The first few viruses like "I Love You" and "Melissa" were just proofs of concepts.
And of course, the minute a discovery is made, someone greedy tries to turn it into a money-maker for themselves.
Want the spam problem to end? It would if only there were money in it to make it stop.
As it is, the money being spent tips the scales in favor of the spammers and NOTHING that will amount to anything will ever be done about it unless that simple fact changes.
In other words, spammers have more money to make protecting their "investment" than anyone else can collect doing otherwise.
Very simple, really.
Like everything, regretably, this is just an issue of dollars and cents.
Today SCO as a smokescreen, tomorrow Microsoft, the week after anybody else the spammers can use as a cover...
klompen?
:-)
Sounds like that could also be the origin for "clomping"
One minute a multi-billion dollar project is cancelled, the next it's not.
Makes me wonder exactly how seriously the consider ANY decision they make.
Thanks for the correction, I always thought the wooden-shoe was a dutch-only thing...
>What are they gonna do if they keep selling Lindows there? Throw a wooden clog at them? I mean really...who throws a wooden shoe?
Saboteurs!
The name comes from the dutch actually, and their habit of throwing wooden shoes (sabots) into machinery!
Ironic in a way...
>But it's Disney, so what do you expect? ...
>
You forgot one thing about Disney:
In a few years, they'll claim to be the creators and owners of H2G2.
Just like they did with Sleeping Beauty, Winnie the Pooh, Beauty and the Beast, etc...
As if those no-talent taggers aren't enough, now we can look forward to them automating the process.
Proof-positive tagging isn't art.
*puts on flame retardant underpants*
Informative AND hilarious.
Kudos, ebbomega
All governments should adopt Linux, the issue is far too sensitive to entrust to Microsoft.