You have a good point, but you have to keep in mind that "real" phone lines are hardly problem-free. The number of issues I've seen in the past year with real corporate phone lines (T1 and DS3) is seemingly unbelievable, and the response from various phone companies has severely lacked in expediency and ability to understand that the problem was, in fact, on their end.
And I'm not talking about VoIP and SIP circuits yet...:-)
"The reason undergrads show up is they think it's going to help their grade by being present."
Well, yeah, they don't just think this. It's been my experience that in classes where attendance is required (and about half of my classes did have required attendance), that attendance counts for somewhere between 5% and 20% of the grade in the class. 5% is significant, and 20% is huge, especially just for showing up. It essentially bumped everyone up a notch or two, and made it relatively easy for people to pass the class, even if their grasp of material meant that they shouldn't have passed.
No mandatory attendance, and no brownie points for showing up. The high school-ification of college needs to stop, hah.
This. Once class sizes got down to the junior- and senior-level sizes (~30 students), the laptop distraction became most prominent in classes where attendance was mandatory. The one class that springs to mind is a PHP class I had to take, and the professor required attendance (it was something like 5% or 10% of the grade). The class was mind-numbingly boring for me (and at 8 AM to boot), and had it not been for my laptop and Slashdot, I probably would have fallen asleep. It didn't matter that I didn't pay attention during class--I still managed to get the attendance points, and still managed to upset the other students by destroying the curve (yes, there was actually a curve in a college-level PHP class that didn't even talk about sanitizing inputs, parameterized SQL, etc.).
A discussion about banning laptops is one that might become worthwhile once/if colleges and universities can eliminate BS classes and requirements first.
Your overall premise is right, but I think you're way off on the timing. Sure, today, you can stream 720P from Netflix and the likes, but not all 720P is created equal. Just because you have 720 lines of resolution doesn't mean it's going to look even remotely good. I watched a movie on Netflix last weekend (supposedly in "HD"), and it looked like shit compared to a DVD. The problem would only be exacerbated with a 1080P signal, because I can guarantee you that they wouldn't devote an additional and proportional amount of bandwidth to account for the increase in resolution (i.e., even higher compression ratios and loss of quality). Of course, there's also the problem on the ISP end as well: When your ISP is also providing the majority of your TV content, they're going to do everything possible to discourage you from streaming from any source other than themselves (i.e., bandwidth caps), regardless of whatever technical limitations exist (and for the vast majority of America, there are still technical problems in place on download speeds, at least as far as "true HD" streaming is concerned).
Now, you could argue that a lot of people just don't care that much, and you'd probably be right. But BluRay will continue for at least a few years for what I think is a relatively large niche of people who *do* care about the quality. On our 63" 1080P plasma, the difference between BluRay and streaming or DVD is so huge that there's no way you'd want to watch anything but BluRay, given the option. And while I'm the resident videophile, even a normal person can notice the difference...
I thought that the whole AT&T vs. UCB lawsuit resulted in all/most AT&T code being pulled from BSD, but AT&T was forced to give attribution to UCB for all the BSD code present in System V (and its derivatives). I can't say I know for sure, but I'd suspect there was just as much BSD code in AT&T UNIX as there was AT&T code in Berkeley's distribution.
It'd actually be rather interesting to look at snapshots of System V code and 4.3BSD-Lite code from the early 90s, and see which of those two has more code present in modern-day UNIX derivatives (e.g., Solaris).
Exactly. If this policy stands, I can't imagine it'll be long before someone writes some iptables/QoS rules for DD-WRT/OpenWRT/et cetera that automatically perform the throttling for you, as needed. Just enter your bandwidth—or have your router perform a speed test—and restrict as necessary. Allow peak bandwidth for a maximum of 14 minutes, 55 seconds, and then restrict to 69% or whatever.
Someone will definitely automate that. Definitely.
There were one or two CpE/CS/EE classes at VT that were difficult if you weren't running Windows (certain projects in ECE 1574, ECE 2504, and a few others, I'm sure), but once you get into the 3000- and 4000-level classes (i.e., junior and senior level), Linux seemed fairly well tolerated.
In the college of business (specifically, the Business Information Technology department), Linux is quite usable, aside from certain classes that require you to use Excel and some pieces of educational software bundled with textbooks, all of which are Windows-only, of course. There is one class (BIT 4444â"Web-based Decision Support Systems) where running Linux can be quite helpful for the PHP-based portion of the class, though there remains the need for Windows when they get into ASP.NET stuff.
And just as a shameless plug, there's always the Virginia Tech Linux & UNIX Users' Group.:-)
I'm a college student, so it's nothing too fancy or expensive (all obtained on eBay or through my school's auction), but it's fun to learn on, play with, and learn about high availability, and what happens when everyone's MP3 access disappears.:-)
File Server: IBM Dual Pentium Pro 200 MHz box, 256 megs of RAM, currently just one 100 gig PATA/133 hard drive using XFS, to be expanded to a few SATA drives in a RAID 5 array, heavily updated/customized RH7.3 install using 2.6 kernel (it's sitting behind a firewall, of course)
Mail/DNS/Auth Server: Compaq Proliant 800, Dual Pentium III 550 MHz, 256 megs of RAM, 4 UW SCSI drives in a RAID5 array (3 in the array, 1 as a hot spare), FC4 with my customizations
Firewall/Router/SQL/VPN box: Gateway G6-366c, Celeron 366 MHz, 64 megs of RAM, and draws next to zero power, while still being plenty reliable. Don't ask why it's running SQL instead of on the big box though, I don't really know, heh. FC4.
Random server/Syslog/Home Automation box: IBM ThinkPad 390, Pentium II 266 MHz, 256 megs of RAM. CentOS 4.2.
Old SQL server: Sun SPARCstation 5, 70 MHz, 32 megs of RAM, 540 MEGAbyte SCSI HD (originally ran Solaris 8, then I moved it to RH6.2). Needless to say, this machine isn't running anymore, just because it's ancient. Most solid piece of hardware I've ever seen though.:-)
Random toy box: SGI Indigo2, MIPS R4400 at 150 MHz, 96 megs of RAM, some size SCSI HD, IRIX 6.5.13, IIRC. I don't use it for much, I got it to play with another UNIX that I couldn't use on Intel hardware. Solid machine though . . .
2 managed 24-port switches: 1 Dell PowerConnect 3024, 1 Asante IntraSwitch 6224 (the Dell is the only one in use, the Asante isn't nearly as good)
Linksys WAP54G access point (acting just as a bridge, basically, between the wired and wireless portions of the network)
2 APC SmartUPS 1400's, 1 smaller MGE UPS for when the power goes out (all servers are connected to the UPS they are plugged into for automatic shutdown)
I cabled the entire house myself with Cat5e. The only thing left I really want to do is terminate it properly on the "data center" end (it's currently just solid Cat5e with RJ45 connectors on them, which will change as soon as I have money to pickup a patch panel on eBay). For the moment, I am 600 miles away for months at a time (studying Computer Engineering at Virginia Tech), and there are no problems with the setup that I can't fix from here . Gotta love Linux/UNIX.
Hey, we're improving, give us time . . . we're #22, and moving on up like the Jeffersons. Not to mention 2 60+ point to 0 victories this season, and a win against West Virginia . . . we're pretty good, even if our football team probably has no idea what UNIX is, or even that we have a supercomputer on campus, heh.
IIRC, and it's been a while, so I may not, but I believe Sun had a license for System V that enabled them to literally do whatever the hell they wanted with it, which was different than every other licensee of System V. I'll have to search for a link, but I believe that to be true . . .
Yep, CVS uses UnixWare 7 (interestingly, they haven't seen fit to "upgrade" to Open UNIX 8) on their pharmacy computer systems, which would actually be pretty neat, if they weren't so damn slow. It was neat to be back there, learning the system, how to enter prescriptions, etc, and then logging out at the end of the day to see a UnixWare prompt, though the novelty wore off quickly once I realized just how bad UnixWare is.:-)
Regardless of the fact that an Indigo might be quite a few years old, most, if not all of them, are perfectly capable of running the latest versions of IRIX without problems, or being too slow to use. The point being a lot of UNIX hardware from 7-10 years ago is still similar enough to the technology of today that it can be used for a compile farm. You could get a Sun UltraSPARC workstation for less than $500 easy, same with an Alpha, etc . . . it's a pretty good solution.
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I stand corrected. Thanks. The SL-HF1000 is a great deck, although I personally would prefer the GCS-50 (essentially the "professional" version of the SL-HF1000), or a SL-HF750, which has the "linear skate" mechanism.:-) Oh, and if you are interested, you could grab a good sum for that deck of your's on eBay . . . might want to check that out.
And here's that 15th anniversary Beta that you were referring to . . . http://pages.prodigy.net/handel31/SL-HF2100.jpg
Another good page: http://www.geocities.com/videoholic2000/BetaListpg 1.htm
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I admit it. I use MD and Betamax almost every day. I have one of the original Beta Hi-Fi decks (SL-2700B, which is just black instead of the silver SL-2700), and I've been using MD ever since it came out, and only a few months ago purchasing my MZ-N1 MDLP player that can record directly from the computer at up the 32 times. Yep, dedicated to Sony technology, simply because it's better.;-) (Nope, can't afford a Tivo or DVD burner yet)
While many people here have commented, suggesting that XFS may not be as stable as Ext3 or ReiserFS, but, in fact, it is just as stable, if not more so. Before SGI does a release, an unbeliveable amount of testing is done to ensure that the code works without failure, and in my experience, it does. I personally run it on my servers, with one at home that handles all of my large files (MP3's, Photoshop BMP's, lots of other stuff), and it's noticeably faster than Reiser, with no loss in stability. I'd recommend it, based upon experience, rather than some of those people out there who seem to "deface" (for lack of a better word in my mind) XFS without even using it, save for the 1st post I saw. Hope that helps . . .
The new marketing strategy mentions this quote: "No wonder Unix makes you feel boxed in. It ties you to an inflexible system. It requires you to pay for expensive experts. It makes you struggle daily with a server environment that's more complex than ever,"
Now, replace Unix with "Windows", and what do you get? A quote that makes a lot more sense, that's what you get. Quick, what are some phrases that describes Windows servers? Inflexible, requires expensive MCSE people, simple to fuck up, complex to keep running right. Microsoft had better come up with something better than this if they want "big" system admins to migrate to Windows 2000 Datacenter, mainly because they trust Unix, and they know it works; when Microsoft tells these guys that there stuff doesn't work, and that Microsoft's stuff will, they aren't exactly gaining much trust. I say let Microsoft kill themselves; the more steps like this that they make, and it might just happen.
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Good point! Sony is coming out with their new MZ-N1 portable MD recorder that comes with a USB connection kit. It's different than the older ones though; this one allows you to record up to 32 times, with 5 hours on a MD. Not out yet, but I can't wait to pick mine up . . .:-)
Solaris does indeed scale well, but IRIX beats even Solaris in terms of scaling to larger systems; I've yet to see Sun produce any system to the scale of SGI's top stuff (Origin2000's, IIRC).
Well, if you get a Sun, RS/6000, PA-RISC, or a SGI system, and Photoshop 3.0, you can type photoshop at the shell, and watch it load (and promptly crash, at least that is my experience on my SGI Indigo2 Extreme).;-)
"Yeah, like its that friggn difficult for them to recompile on freebsd;)"
Well, the recompiling might not be difficult.;-) You have to remember that not all commercial code is as "clean" as many open-source projects are, mainly because they simply don't target anywhere near the number of platforms. I can't think of any commercial products of the top of my head (Oracle maybe?), but I do know *MANY* of them include enhancements (read: hacks) to get them to run on different platforms, like Linux, or Solaris. Sure, they're all UNIX, so to speak, but there remains differences between the two, and it is those differences that commercial vendors are worried about; it's never just a simple recompile, though it would be nice. And the cost of doing a port The Right Way is prohibitive, especially for more "exotic" operating systems like FreeBSD. From a commercial point of view, Linux is growing at a faster pace than FreeBSD, and *THAT'S* what companies care about. We aren't in the dot-com mode of spending anymore; money has to be allocated towards those areas where companies will make the most money, because that is their job. Sorry for the rant . . . this just hit upon something I've been thinking of lately.:-)
Hmm . . . they say that they're going to improve security, and yet that e-mail leaks out. I am the only one who finds this ironic?;-) And, before I get flamed, I realize the release was, in all likelihood, intentional, but it still doesn't leave me with a good feeling about this, nor does it make me willing to trust Microsoft. This is exactly what they shouldn't be doing. If you say you are going to make things secure, well, practice that with everything, including e-mail!
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You have a good point, but you have to keep in mind that "real" phone lines are hardly problem-free. The number of issues I've seen in the past year with real corporate phone lines (T1 and DS3) is seemingly unbelievable, and the response from various phone companies has severely lacked in expediency and ability to understand that the problem was, in fact, on their end. And I'm not talking about VoIP and SIP circuits yet... :-)
"The reason undergrads show up is they think it's going to help their grade by being present." Well, yeah, they don't just think this. It's been my experience that in classes where attendance is required (and about half of my classes did have required attendance), that attendance counts for somewhere between 5% and 20% of the grade in the class. 5% is significant, and 20% is huge, especially just for showing up. It essentially bumped everyone up a notch or two, and made it relatively easy for people to pass the class, even if their grasp of material meant that they shouldn't have passed. No mandatory attendance, and no brownie points for showing up. The high school-ification of college needs to stop, hah.
This. Once class sizes got down to the junior- and senior-level sizes (~30 students), the laptop distraction became most prominent in classes where attendance was mandatory. The one class that springs to mind is a PHP class I had to take, and the professor required attendance (it was something like 5% or 10% of the grade). The class was mind-numbingly boring for me (and at 8 AM to boot), and had it not been for my laptop and Slashdot, I probably would have fallen asleep. It didn't matter that I didn't pay attention during class--I still managed to get the attendance points, and still managed to upset the other students by destroying the curve (yes, there was actually a curve in a college-level PHP class that didn't even talk about sanitizing inputs, parameterized SQL, etc.). A discussion about banning laptops is one that might become worthwhile once/if colleges and universities can eliminate BS classes and requirements first.
Your overall premise is right, but I think you're way off on the timing. Sure, today, you can stream 720P from Netflix and the likes, but not all 720P is created equal. Just because you have 720 lines of resolution doesn't mean it's going to look even remotely good. I watched a movie on Netflix last weekend (supposedly in "HD"), and it looked like shit compared to a DVD. The problem would only be exacerbated with a 1080P signal, because I can guarantee you that they wouldn't devote an additional and proportional amount of bandwidth to account for the increase in resolution (i.e., even higher compression ratios and loss of quality). Of course, there's also the problem on the ISP end as well: When your ISP is also providing the majority of your TV content, they're going to do everything possible to discourage you from streaming from any source other than themselves (i.e., bandwidth caps), regardless of whatever technical limitations exist (and for the vast majority of America, there are still technical problems in place on download speeds, at least as far as "true HD" streaming is concerned). Now, you could argue that a lot of people just don't care that much, and you'd probably be right. But BluRay will continue for at least a few years for what I think is a relatively large niche of people who *do* care about the quality. On our 63" 1080P plasma, the difference between BluRay and streaming or DVD is so huge that there's no way you'd want to watch anything but BluRay, given the option. And while I'm the resident videophile, even a normal person can notice the difference...
I thought that the whole AT&T vs. UCB lawsuit resulted in all/most AT&T code being pulled from BSD, but AT&T was forced to give attribution to UCB for all the BSD code present in System V (and its derivatives). I can't say I know for sure, but I'd suspect there was just as much BSD code in AT&T UNIX as there was AT&T code in Berkeley's distribution. It'd actually be rather interesting to look at snapshots of System V code and 4.3BSD-Lite code from the early 90s, and see which of those two has more code present in modern-day UNIX derivatives (e.g., Solaris).
Exactly. If this policy stands, I can't imagine it'll be long before someone writes some iptables/QoS rules for DD-WRT/OpenWRT/et cetera that automatically perform the throttling for you, as needed. Just enter your bandwidth—or have your router perform a speed test—and restrict as necessary. Allow peak bandwidth for a maximum of 14 minutes, 55 seconds, and then restrict to 69% or whatever. Someone will definitely automate that. Definitely.
There were one or two CpE/CS/EE classes at VT that were difficult if you weren't running Windows (certain projects in ECE 1574, ECE 2504, and a few others, I'm sure), but once you get into the 3000- and 4000-level classes (i.e., junior and senior level), Linux seemed fairly well tolerated. In the college of business (specifically, the Business Information Technology department), Linux is quite usable, aside from certain classes that require you to use Excel and some pieces of educational software bundled with textbooks, all of which are Windows-only, of course. There is one class (BIT 4444â"Web-based Decision Support Systems) where running Linux can be quite helpful for the PHP-based portion of the class, though there remains the need for Windows when they get into ASP.NET stuff. And just as a shameless plug, there's always the Virginia Tech Linux & UNIX Users' Group. :-)
I'm a college student, so it's nothing too fancy or expensive (all obtained on eBay or through my school's auction), but it's fun to learn on, play with, and learn about high availability, and what happens when everyone's MP3 access disappears. :-)
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File Server: IBM Dual Pentium Pro 200 MHz box, 256 megs of RAM, currently just one 100 gig PATA/133 hard drive using XFS, to be expanded to a few SATA drives in a RAID 5 array, heavily updated/customized RH7.3 install using 2.6 kernel (it's sitting behind a firewall, of course)
Mail/DNS/Auth Server: Compaq Proliant 800, Dual Pentium III 550 MHz, 256 megs of RAM, 4 UW SCSI drives in a RAID5 array (3 in the array, 1 as a hot spare), FC4 with my customizations
Firewall/Router/SQL/VPN box: Gateway G6-366c, Celeron 366 MHz, 64 megs of RAM, and draws next to zero power, while still being plenty reliable. Don't ask why it's running SQL instead of on the big box though, I don't really know, heh. FC4.
Random server/Syslog/Home Automation box: IBM ThinkPad 390, Pentium II 266 MHz, 256 megs of RAM. CentOS 4.2.
Old SQL server: Sun SPARCstation 5, 70 MHz, 32 megs of RAM, 540 MEGAbyte SCSI HD (originally ran Solaris 8, then I moved it to RH6.2). Needless to say, this machine isn't running anymore, just because it's ancient. Most solid piece of hardware I've ever seen though.
Random toy box: SGI Indigo2, MIPS R4400 at 150 MHz, 96 megs of RAM, some size SCSI HD, IRIX 6.5.13, IIRC. I don't use it for much, I got it to play with another UNIX that I couldn't use on Intel hardware. Solid machine though . . .
2 managed 24-port switches: 1 Dell PowerConnect 3024, 1 Asante IntraSwitch 6224 (the Dell is the only one in use, the Asante isn't nearly as good)
Linksys WAP54G access point (acting just as a bridge, basically, between the wired and wireless portions of the network)
2 APC SmartUPS 1400's, 1 smaller MGE UPS for when the power goes out (all servers are connected to the UPS they are plugged into for automatic shutdown)
I cabled the entire house myself with Cat5e. The only thing left I really want to do is terminate it properly on the "data center" end (it's currently just solid Cat5e with RJ45 connectors on them, which will change as soon as I have money to pickup a patch panel on eBay). For the moment, I am 600 miles away for months at a time (studying Computer Engineering at Virginia Tech), and there are no problems with the setup that I can't fix from here . Gotta love Linux/UNIX.
Hey, we're improving, give us time . . . we're #22, and moving on up like the Jeffersons. Not to mention 2 60+ point to 0 victories this season, and a win against West Virginia . . . we're pretty good, even if our football team probably has no idea what UNIX is, or even that we have a supercomputer on campus, heh.
IIRC, and it's been a while, so I may not, but I believe Sun had a license for System V that enabled them to literally do whatever the hell they wanted with it, which was different than every other licensee of System V. I'll have to search for a link, but I believe that to be true . . .
Yep, CVS uses UnixWare 7 (interestingly, they haven't seen fit to "upgrade" to Open UNIX 8) on their pharmacy computer systems, which would actually be pretty neat, if they weren't so damn slow. It was neat to be back there, learning the system, how to enter prescriptions, etc, and then logging out at the end of the day to see a UnixWare prompt, though the novelty wore off quickly once I realized just how bad UnixWare is. :-)
Regardless of the fact that an Indigo might be quite a few years old, most, if not all of them, are perfectly capable of running the latest versions of IRIX without problems, or being too slow to use. The point being a lot of UNIX hardware from 7-10 years ago is still similar enough to the technology of today that it can be used for a compile farm. You could get a Sun UltraSPARC workstation for less than $500 easy, same with an Alpha, etc . . . it's a pretty good solution.
I stand corrected. Thanks. The SL-HF1000 is a great deck, although I personally would prefer the GCS-50 (essentially the "professional" version of the SL-HF1000), or a SL-HF750, which has the "linear skate" mechanism. :-) Oh, and if you are interested, you could grab a good sum for that deck of your's on eBay . . . might want to check that out.
And here's that 15th anniversary Beta that you were referring to . . . http://pages.prodigy.net/handel31/SL-HF2100.jpg
Another good page: http://www.geocities.com/videoholic2000/BetaListpg 1.htm
I admit it. I use MD and Betamax almost every day. I have one of the original Beta Hi-Fi decks (SL-2700B, which is just black instead of the silver SL-2700), and I've been using MD ever since it came out, and only a few months ago purchasing my MZ-N1 MDLP player that can record directly from the computer at up the 32 times. Yep, dedicated to Sony technology, simply because it's better. ;-) (Nope, can't afford a Tivo or DVD burner yet)
While many people here have commented, suggesting that XFS may not be as stable as Ext3 or ReiserFS, but, in fact, it is just as stable, if not more so. Before SGI does a release, an unbeliveable amount of testing is done to ensure that the code works without failure, and in my experience, it does. I personally run it on my servers, with one at home that handles all of my large files (MP3's, Photoshop BMP's, lots of other stuff), and it's noticeably faster than Reiser, with no loss in stability. I'd recommend it, based upon experience, rather than some of those people out there who seem to "deface" (for lack of a better word in my mind) XFS without even using it, save for the 1st post I saw. Hope that helps . . .
IIRC, the Linux 2.4.x kernels *already* support zero-copy TCP operations; not sure about UDP though . . .
The new marketing strategy mentions this quote:
"No wonder Unix makes you feel boxed in. It ties you to an inflexible system. It requires you to pay for expensive experts. It makes you struggle daily with a server environment that's more complex than ever,"
Now, replace Unix with "Windows", and what do you get? A quote that makes a lot more sense, that's what you get. Quick, what are some phrases that describes Windows servers? Inflexible, requires expensive MCSE people, simple to fuck up, complex to keep running right. Microsoft had better come up with something better than this if they want "big" system admins to migrate to Windows 2000 Datacenter, mainly because they trust Unix, and they know it works; when Microsoft tells these guys that there stuff doesn't work, and that Microsoft's stuff will, they aren't exactly gaining much trust. I say let Microsoft kill themselves; the more steps like this that they make, and it might just happen.
Good point! Sony is coming out with their new MZ-N1 portable MD recorder that comes with a USB connection kit. It's different than the older ones though; this one allows you to record up to 32 times, with 5 hours on a MD. Not out yet, but I can't wait to pick mine up . . . :-)
Solaris does indeed scale well, but IRIX beats even Solaris in terms of scaling to larger systems; I've yet to see Sun produce any system to the scale of SGI's top stuff (Origin2000's, IIRC).
Emacs? Go back five years and tell them that vi comes pre-loaded on a Mac.
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The better question is would a Mac user from 5 years back know what vi is?
Well, then try a 2.4.16+ kernel with SGI's XFS patches; works great for me. ;-)
Well, if you get a Sun, RS/6000, PA-RISC, or a SGI system, and Photoshop 3.0, you can type photoshop at the shell, and watch it load (and promptly crash, at least that is my experience on my SGI Indigo2 Extreme). ;-)
"Yeah, like its that friggn difficult for them to recompile on freebsd ;)"
;-) You have to remember that not all commercial code is as "clean" as many open-source projects are, mainly because they simply don't target anywhere near the number of platforms. I can't think of any commercial products of the top of my head (Oracle maybe?), but I do know *MANY* of them include enhancements (read: hacks) to get them to run on different platforms, like Linux, or Solaris. Sure, they're all UNIX, so to speak, but there remains differences between the two, and it is those differences that commercial vendors are worried about; it's never just a simple recompile, though it would be nice. And the cost of doing a port The Right Way is prohibitive, especially for more "exotic" operating systems like FreeBSD. From a commercial point of view, Linux is growing at a faster pace than FreeBSD, and *THAT'S* what companies care about. We aren't in the dot-com mode of spending anymore; money has to be allocated towards those areas where companies will make the most money, because that is their job. Sorry for the rant . . . this just hit upon something I've been thinking of lately. :-)
Well, the recompiling might not be difficult.
Hmm . . . they say that they're going to improve security, and yet that e-mail leaks out. I am the only one who finds this ironic? ;-) And, before I get flamed, I realize the release was, in all likelihood, intentional, but it still doesn't leave me with a good feeling about this, nor does it make me willing to trust Microsoft. This is exactly what they shouldn't be doing. If you say you are going to make things secure, well, practice that with everything, including e-mail!
. . . And a "403 Forbidden" error whenever you try to access the Playboy channel!